http://www.engadget.com/2004/08/26/actual-pics-of-the-new-treo-ace-treo-650/ Engadget Comments for Actual pics of the new Treo Ace/Treo 650 http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2004/08/26/actual-pics-of-the-new-treo-ace-treo-650/http://www.engadget.com/2004/08/26/actual-pics-of-the-new-treo-ace-treo-650/
First.

* Bluetooth
* High Res
* Totally Different Keyboard Backlighting System
* Video Recording Built In
* 1.3 MP Camera


The BAD?

TOTAL INCOMPATIBILITY WITH ALL ACCESSORIES

They simply will not work... not any... not even one (save universal headsets)

Cradles... chargers... not gonna work... Pocket Keyboard? Also no.]]>Dec 19th 2005 12:04AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2004/08/26/actual-pics-of-the-new-treo-ace-treo-650/http://www.engadget.com/2004/08/26/actual-pics-of-the-new-treo-ace-treo-650/Dec 19th 2005 12:04AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2004/08/26/actual-pics-of-the-new-treo-ace-treo-650/http://www.engadget.com/2004/08/26/actual-pics-of-the-new-treo-ace-treo-650/Dec 19th 2005 12:04AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2004/08/26/actual-pics-of-the-new-treo-ace-treo-650/http://www.engadget.com/2004/08/26/actual-pics-of-the-new-treo-ace-treo-650/Dec 19th 2005 12:04AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2004/08/26/actual-pics-of-the-new-treo-ace-treo-650/http://www.engadget.com/2004/08/26/actual-pics-of-the-new-treo-ace-treo-650/Dec 19th 2005 12:04AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2004/08/26/actual-pics-of-the-new-treo-ace-treo-650/http://www.engadget.com/2004/08/26/actual-pics-of-the-new-treo-ace-treo-650/Dec 19th 2005 12:04AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2004/08/26/actual-pics-of-the-new-treo-ace-treo-650/http://www.engadget.com/2004/08/26/actual-pics-of-the-new-treo-ace-treo-650/Dec 19th 2005 12:04AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2004/08/26/actual-pics-of-the-new-treo-ace-treo-650/http://www.engadget.com/2004/08/26/actual-pics-of-the-new-treo-ace-treo-650/
*Will actually ship 6 months after announcement.
Granted this isn't an announcement, but when will these things start appearing? I checked the FTC commision dates on the 600s and they were in July 2003 -- so if there is the same lag, we are still looking at another 5 month wait at a minumum before they hit the streets in any quantity.]]>Dec 19th 2005 12:04AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2004/08/26/actual-pics-of-the-new-treo-ace-treo-650/http://www.engadget.com/2004/08/26/actual-pics-of-the-new-treo-ace-treo-650/Dec 19th 2005 12:04AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2004/08/26/actual-pics-of-the-new-treo-ace-treo-650/http://www.engadget.com/2004/08/26/actual-pics-of-the-new-treo-ace-treo-650/Dec 19th 2005 12:04AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2004/08/26/actual-pics-of-the-new-treo-ace-treo-650/http://www.engadget.com/2004/08/26/actual-pics-of-the-new-treo-ace-treo-650/
Anyone have any info about this? All I can learn so far is "the tools have been sent out to developers".]]>Dec 19th 2005 12:04AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2004/08/26/actual-pics-of-the-new-treo-ace-treo-650/http://www.engadget.com/2004/08/26/actual-pics-of-the-new-treo-ace-treo-650/
And what the heck is with the piddling 32MB of memory? Sure, I know, "it's great plenty for a PalmOS device"... but some of us would love to ditch the cellphone-laptop or cellphone-PDA combo for one device, and more RAM (or flash ROM) would make a difference.

C'mon, Palm... it's not that expensive!]]>Dec 19th 2005 12:04AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2004/08/26/actual-pics-of-the-new-treo-ace-treo-650/http://www.engadget.com/2004/08/26/actual-pics-of-the-new-treo-ace-treo-650/
The only thing I wish it had, was WiFi. If it had that, it would have everything. Maybe we'll have to wait for the Treo 700 for this?

LOVE the backlighting on the keyboard! Really beautiful and easy to see.

I'm really impressed. (Just wish it had WiFi without having to use the SD slot).]]>Dec 19th 2005 12:04AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2004/08/26/actual-pics-of-the-new-treo-ace-treo-650/http://www.engadget.com/2004/08/26/actual-pics-of-the-new-treo-ace-treo-650/Dec 19th 2005 12:04AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2004/08/26/actual-pics-of-the-new-treo-ace-treo-650/http://www.engadget.com/2004/08/26/actual-pics-of-the-new-treo-ace-treo-650/
A. That second, smaller, covered slot on the top (assuming the other one, immediately underneath the IR port is SD)? SIM card?

B. That gold thing on the back, below the antenna? I'm completely stumped here.]]>Dec 19th 2005 12:04AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2004/08/26/actual-pics-of-the-new-treo-ace-treo-650/http://www.engadget.com/2004/08/26/actual-pics-of-the-new-treo-ace-treo-650/Dec 19th 2005 12:04AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2004/08/26/actual-pics-of-the-new-treo-ace-treo-650/http://www.engadget.com/2004/08/26/actual-pics-of-the-new-treo-ace-treo-650/A. SIM-card cover.
B. External antenna.]]>Dec 19th 2005 12:04AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2004/08/26/actual-pics-of-the-new-treo-ace-treo-650/http://www.engadget.com/2004/08/26/actual-pics-of-the-new-treo-ace-treo-650/Dec 19th 2005 12:04AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2004/08/26/actual-pics-of-the-new-treo-ace-treo-650/http://www.engadget.com/2004/08/26/actual-pics-of-the-new-treo-ace-treo-650/Dec 19th 2005 12:04AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2004/08/26/actual-pics-of-the-new-treo-ace-treo-650/http://www.engadget.com/2004/08/26/actual-pics-of-the-new-treo-ace-treo-650/
Cheers, A.]]>Dec 19th 2005 12:04AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2004/08/26/actual-pics-of-the-new-treo-ace-treo-650/http://www.engadget.com/2004/08/26/actual-pics-of-the-new-treo-ace-treo-650/w/48 Hr return shipping, when desired.

If w/o External Battery
- Cost of Battery Cover
- Cost of Shipping

If w/new External Battery
- Cost of TC External Battery
- Cost of Shipping

Cradles Purchased for the "Treo 650" should have 2 price options

Current Price - if with new External Battery

Reduced Price for Cradle w/Battery Cover Mount

Price TBD when cost of Battery Cover and External Battery are known.

Good to Go ! ~ Carl (aka ArcBody)
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Carl Schwartz - Carl@MDISI.com - 516-921-0508]]>Dec 19th 2005 12:04AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2004/08/26/actual-pics-of-the-new-treo-ace-treo-650/http://www.engadget.com/2004/08/26/actual-pics-of-the-new-treo-ace-treo-650/Dec 19th 2005 12:04AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2004/08/26/actual-pics-of-the-new-treo-ace-treo-650/http://www.engadget.com/2004/08/26/actual-pics-of-the-new-treo-ace-treo-650/Dec 19th 2005 12:04AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2004/08/26/actual-pics-of-the-new-treo-ace-treo-650/http://www.engadget.com/2004/08/26/actual-pics-of-the-new-treo-ace-treo-650/Dec 19th 2005 12:04AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2004/08/26/actual-pics-of-the-new-treo-ace-treo-650/http://www.engadget.com/2004/08/26/actual-pics-of-the-new-treo-ace-treo-650/Dec 19th 2005 12:04AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2004/08/26/actual-pics-of-the-new-treo-ace-treo-650/http://www.engadget.com/2004/08/26/actual-pics-of-the-new-treo-ace-treo-650/I need this now!]]>Dec 19th 2005 12:04AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2004/08/26/actual-pics-of-the-new-treo-ace-treo-650/http://www.engadget.com/2004/08/26/actual-pics-of-the-new-treo-ace-treo-650/---
>>I've been wondering when Treo (or any other PalmOS phone) would be coming out with the new multitasking OS. I've been hoping to get a palm that has one of the key advantages that I hear the HipTop has: the ability to have applications such as instant messengers always on even when using other apps, making phone calls, etc...
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The HipTop does indeed allow you to background apps (well, actually it's more like they are always running in foreground, but you can only see one at a time). For my money the HipTop does *everything* I could want - *except* it's stupid as a telephone. The new ones look to be better - but my oh my, if they would have added BT to the new model, they would have had a real shot at being the first device to really do it all so that you only have to carry one device instead of 3.

Still, it's far better than the three - count 'em, 3 - Blackberries I went through.

]]>Dec 19th 2005 12:04AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2004/08/26/actual-pics-of-the-new-treo-ace-treo-650/http://www.engadget.com/2004/08/26/actual-pics-of-the-new-treo-ace-treo-650/Dec 19th 2005 12:04AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2004/08/26/actual-pics-of-the-new-treo-ace-treo-650/http://www.engadget.com/2004/08/26/actual-pics-of-the-new-treo-ace-treo-650/Dec 19th 2005 12:04AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2004/08/26/actual-pics-of-the-new-treo-ace-treo-650/http://www.engadget.com/2004/08/26/actual-pics-of-the-new-treo-ace-treo-650/
User accessible battery ?]]>Dec 19th 2005 12:04AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2004/08/26/actual-pics-of-the-new-treo-ace-treo-650/http://www.engadget.com/2004/08/26/actual-pics-of-the-new-treo-ace-treo-650/
That looks like a mirrored surface to hide the light sensor for the camera. The 600 is infamous for overexposing photos and this seems like a logical fix.]]>Dec 19th 2005 12:04AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2004/08/26/actual-pics-of-the-new-treo-ace-treo-650/http://www.engadget.com/2004/08/26/actual-pics-of-the-new-treo-ace-treo-650/Dec 19th 2005 12:04AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2004/08/26/actual-pics-of-the-new-treo-ace-treo-650/http://www.engadget.com/2004/08/26/actual-pics-of-the-new-treo-ace-treo-650/Dec 19th 2005 12:04AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2004/08/26/actual-pics-of-the-new-treo-ace-treo-650/http://www.engadget.com/2004/08/26/actual-pics-of-the-new-treo-ace-treo-650/Dec 19th 2005 12:04AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2004/08/26/actual-pics-of-the-new-treo-ace-treo-650/http://www.engadget.com/2004/08/26/actual-pics-of-the-new-treo-ace-treo-650/Dec 19th 2005 12:04AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2004/08/26/actual-pics-of-the-new-treo-ace-treo-650/http://www.engadget.com/2004/08/26/actual-pics-of-the-new-treo-ace-treo-650/Dec 19th 2005 12:04AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2004/08/26/actual-pics-of-the-new-treo-ace-treo-650/http://www.engadget.com/2004/08/26/actual-pics-of-the-new-treo-ace-treo-650/
-Bobby]]>Dec 19th 2005 12:04AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2004/08/26/actual-pics-of-the-new-treo-ace-treo-650/http://www.engadget.com/2004/08/26/actual-pics-of-the-new-treo-ace-treo-650/I've been wondering when Treo (or any other PalmOS phone) would be coming out with the new multitasking OS. I've been hoping to get a palm that has one of the key advantages that I hear the HipTop has: the ability to have applications such as instant messengers always on even when using other apps, making phone calls, etc...
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There are many apps currently available for the Treo 600 (and would surely work on the 650) that work in the background at least for email, IM and audio. For email, the built-in application that comes with the Treo 600 fetches mail in the background. ChatterMail does that even better with true push email with IMAP servers. Chatter and Verichat (to name two) do IM supurbly in the background. Pocket-Tunes does music play in the background.

So many of the things you mentioned can already be done without having a true multi-tasking OS.]]>Dec 19th 2005 12:04AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2004/08/26/actual-pics-of-the-new-treo-ace-treo-650/http://www.engadget.com/2004/08/26/actual-pics-of-the-new-treo-ace-treo-650/Dec 19th 2005 12:04AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2004/08/26/actual-pics-of-the-new-treo-ace-treo-650/http://www.engadget.com/2004/08/26/actual-pics-of-the-new-treo-ace-treo-650/Dec 19th 2005 12:04AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2004/08/26/actual-pics-of-the-new-treo-ace-treo-650/http://www.engadget.com/2004/08/26/actual-pics-of-the-new-treo-ace-treo-650/Dec 19th 2005 12:04AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2004/08/26/actual-pics-of-the-new-treo-ace-treo-650/http://www.engadget.com/2004/08/26/actual-pics-of-the-new-treo-ace-treo-650/


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Does the new SD slot have power? Can I add a Wifi card?

Also, sadly the Treo 600 could not act as a data modem for a laptop (at least not on Sprint), unlike many other phones. Can I use the 650 as a data modem for a laptop?
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http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=38331&item=5718501244&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW

Buyer beware.... unopened box ?????

what say you guys ?

Jim]]>Dec 19th 2005 12:04AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2004/08/26/actual-pics-of-the-new-treo-ace-treo-650/http://www.engadget.com/2004/08/26/actual-pics-of-the-new-treo-ace-treo-650/-backlit keyboard
-numbers on the left side
http://www.orange.com/English/productsandservice/treo6002.asp
darn sexy, but not as if I can actually buy a GSM version in my neck of the woods....dang]]>Dec 19th 2005 12:04AM