http://www.engadget.com/2004/09/27/floridians-beware-monkey-can-actually-hack-diebold-voting/ Engadget Comments for Floridians, beware: monkey can actually hack Diebold voting machines http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2004/09/27/floridians-beware-monkey-can-actually-hack-diebold-voting/http://www.engadget.com/2004/09/27/floridians-beware-monkey-can-actually-hack-diebold-voting/Dec 19th 2005 2:26AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2004/09/27/floridians-beware-monkey-can-actually-hack-diebold-voting/http://www.engadget.com/2004/09/27/floridians-beware-monkey-can-actually-hack-diebold-voting/If this two digit combination really does exist in the booth machines then there's only going to be 12 (if 4 buttons) or 20 (if 5 buttons) combinations to try! :eek:]]>Dec 19th 2005 2:26AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2004/09/27/floridians-beware-monkey-can-actually-hack-diebold-voting/http://www.engadget.com/2004/09/27/floridians-beware-monkey-can-actually-hack-diebold-voting/Dec 19th 2005 2:26AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2004/09/27/floridians-beware-monkey-can-actually-hack-diebold-voting/http://www.engadget.com/2004/09/27/floridians-beware-monkey-can-actually-hack-diebold-voting/Dec 19th 2005 2:26AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2004/09/27/floridians-beware-monkey-can-actually-hack-diebold-voting/http://www.engadget.com/2004/09/27/floridians-beware-monkey-can-actually-hack-diebold-voting/why dont the Democrats train the best hackers in the business to strike back and hack in to reverse any hacking the Republicans do ????]]>Dec 19th 2005 2:26AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2004/09/27/floridians-beware-monkey-can-actually-hack-diebold-voting/http://www.engadget.com/2004/09/27/floridians-beware-monkey-can-actually-hack-diebold-voting/
Greg Palast showed that the FL Bush/Harris team committed voter fraud in 2000, and the NAACP subsequently successfully sued Florida for it. Yet in spite of the fraudulent election, George Warmonger Bush is still in office; and instead of being punished for their crimes, Jeb Bush is still governor and Katherine Harris is now a member of Congress. Jeb "won" by a landslide in 2002, but all records of the election were lost forever in the bottomless bit bucket. Did he really even win? No one will ever know.]]>Dec 19th 2005 2:26AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2004/09/27/floridians-beware-monkey-can-actually-hack-diebold-voting/http://www.engadget.com/2004/09/27/floridians-beware-monkey-can-actually-hack-diebold-voting/2) Repuglicans OWN the three companies that make the vote-stealing machines that we will be "voting" on. These manufacturers control the "proprietary" vote-stealing software, and can change the keycodes and such at will to enable only their agents (technicians) to be able to change the vote. THEY DON'T NEED TO HACK IN, THEY CAN JUST STEAL THE VOTE OUTRIGHT AND NOONE (with the exception of 50 million Democrats) WILL BE ANY THE WISER.

Question for you: why is it only democrats that are raising the alarm about the vote-stealing machines? Republicans are amazingly silent on this issue.....generally speaking they would be shouting "four more years," and sending vicious emails to the home addresses of the company executives if they were concerned that THEIR votes were going to be stolen. Admit it, Mark, Repuglicans just don't have solid moral fiber -- as much as they scream it from the roof tops.]]>Dec 19th 2005 2:26AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2004/09/27/floridians-beware-monkey-can-actually-hack-diebold-voting/http://www.engadget.com/2004/09/27/floridians-beware-monkey-can-actually-hack-diebold-voting/Dec 19th 2005 2:26AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2004/09/27/floridians-beware-monkey-can-actually-hack-diebold-voting/http://www.engadget.com/2004/09/27/floridians-beware-monkey-can-actually-hack-diebold-voting/Dec 19th 2005 2:26AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2004/09/27/floridians-beware-monkey-can-actually-hack-diebold-voting/http://www.engadget.com/2004/09/27/floridians-beware-monkey-can-actually-hack-diebold-voting/
Because, JohnM, the Republicans have form. It is a matter of record that they fixed a national election, so there is genuine concern they will try to do so again.
]]>Dec 19th 2005 2:26AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2004/09/27/floridians-beware-monkey-can-actually-hack-diebold-voting/http://www.engadget.com/2004/09/27/floridians-beware-monkey-can-actually-hack-diebold-voting/blue for kerry , red for bush?

why is so complicated that people will fuck them up ? is it a like an SAT test or somthing to vote for one of 2-5 people?

gues what my friedns on IRAQ are fucked now and cant vote. yay http://www.thetoxic.com/a_soldiers_opinion.html]]>Dec 19th 2005 2:26AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2004/09/27/floridians-beware-monkey-can-actually-hack-diebold-voting/http://www.engadget.com/2004/09/27/floridians-beware-monkey-can-actually-hack-diebold-voting/
Go here get the software and have fun.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=2260756]]>Dec 19th 2005 2:26AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2004/09/27/floridians-beware-monkey-can-actually-hack-diebold-voting/http://www.engadget.com/2004/09/27/floridians-beware-monkey-can-actually-hack-diebold-voting/
1) To some extent it's like "sniping" on eBay; who gets there last before deadline.

2) With no audit trail, there's no way to tell what tampering has been done and needs to be undone! The same reason the machines are so *fundamentally* flawed in the first place also means that any would-be do-gooder can do no more than guess at what they need to change to make things fair again.

The whole mess is a problem no matter who is doing the tampering, be it Republicans, Democrats, Al Queda, or pranksters.]]>Dec 19th 2005 2:26AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2004/09/27/floridians-beware-monkey-can-actually-hack-diebold-voting/http://www.engadget.com/2004/09/27/floridians-beware-monkey-can-actually-hack-diebold-voting/Why is it that Bush won the vote based on moral values then? People who saw moral values as the most important issue in the election voted for Bush by about a 75% margin.

2) Republicans are more likely to rig an election?

Why's this? Just because people voted for Bush by almost a 4 million voter margin, doesn't mean it was rigged. And dear God, Democrats are still talking about 2000! INCREDIBLE. All this talk about Bush not even winning the election, and not even being able to gain the popular vote. How come you didn't hear Republicans whinning all the time when Clinton won by electoral votes and lost the popular vote?



It was implied there were more nefarious factors at work, including the rather paranoid suggestions that hackers and/or partisans loyal to President Bush could program touch-screen voting machines to perform perfectly during public testing but then somehow be reprogrammed to skew in favor of Bush on election day.

Democratic paranoia in Florida is driven mainly by the fact that the new touch-screen voting machines provide no "paper trail." But according to this press release from Sequoia (http://www.sequoiavote.com/article.php?id=54), each of their machines "prints results of ballots for recount and audit purposes."
(realclearpolitics.com)

I mean, we knew going into the election that people were going to complain about the results no matter what happened, but Bush won so convincingly, you'd like to think people would just realize "ok, we lost..just have to deal with it." But it's more like "Ok, we lost...but uhm, lets see what we can dispute this time."
Give me a break. It was won convincingly, so just accept it and move on with your lives, please.
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I personally want my vote recorded on paper.]]>Dec 19th 2005 2:26AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2004/09/27/floridians-beware-monkey-can-actually-hack-diebold-voting/http://www.engadget.com/2004/09/27/floridians-beware-monkey-can-actually-hack-diebold-voting/with all due respect, but "And dear God, Democrats are still talking about 2000! INCREDIBLE." has got to be one of the most stupid things I have heard in al long time...
What is your point??
It seems to me that when the honesty of the 2004 election is being discussed, it is 100% relevant to take the manipulatons of the previous election with THE SAME votingmachines in to considderation.
And these happened to be in 2000, and no attempt by you to make that sound like too long ago to matter can make that less of a fact.
Oh, and you ask "Republicans are more likely to rig an election?"...
Euhrm...well, maybe because the manufacturers of all these votingmachines are Republicans?
Or because it's at least suspicious that they don't want to reveal their source code (doesn't EVERYBODY agree that software and hardware for a VOTING machine should ALLWAYS be completely open and clear for everybody to check if it's working without flaws or corruption???).
Or maybe just simply because they've done it before (and before, and before...)?
I am not from the USA, but even I am ashamed by one of the most corrupt people on earth being the president of such a big 'democratic' country.
Guess we can't really blame him though, because being an offspring of such a corrupt family I'm affraid he just doesn't know any better...]]>Dec 19th 2005 2:26AM