http://www.engadget.com/2004/10/27/switched-on-the-ipod-photos-slippery-slope-towards-video/ Engadget Comments for Switched On: The iPod Photo's slippery slope towards video http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2004/10/27/switched-on-the-ipod-photos-slippery-slope-towards-video/http://www.engadget.com/2004/10/27/switched-on-the-ipod-photos-slippery-slope-towards-video/Dec 19th 2005 12:05AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2004/10/27/switched-on-the-ipod-photos-slippery-slope-towards-video/http://www.engadget.com/2004/10/27/switched-on-the-ipod-photos-slippery-slope-towards-video/Dec 19th 2005 12:05AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2004/10/27/switched-on-the-ipod-photos-slippery-slope-towards-video/http://www.engadget.com/2004/10/27/switched-on-the-ipod-photos-slippery-slope-towards-video/Dec 19th 2005 12:05AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2004/10/27/switched-on-the-ipod-photos-slippery-slope-towards-video/http://www.engadget.com/2004/10/27/switched-on-the-ipod-photos-slippery-slope-towards-video/Dec 19th 2005 12:05AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2004/10/27/switched-on-the-ipod-photos-slippery-slope-towards-video/http://www.engadget.com/2004/10/27/switched-on-the-ipod-photos-slippery-slope-towards-video/Dec 19th 2005 12:05AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2004/10/27/switched-on-the-ipod-photos-slippery-slope-towards-video/http://www.engadget.com/2004/10/27/switched-on-the-ipod-photos-slippery-slope-towards-video/
The "where do you get content from" argument is strong also. I think it makes sense for Apple to work behind the scenes like they did with the iTunes music store for a year and build support from the content providers to start providing mobile video content.

What if in a year, Apple releases the iPod Video and at the same time announces that through partnerships with MTV and the major music labels, you'll be able to download videos through iTunes or the MTV web site. Or if you buy the whole album, you'll also be able to get an exclusive interview with the artist for play on your iPod Video, just like CDs are starting to offer now. That's the real sale, not just being able to say, "Oh yeah, we can play video too." That will really get people to buy from both the iTunes store and the iPod itself. It's a much more compelling business proposition as well.

That will be much more successful than releasing a video iPod now and no one but the geeks really uses it anyway. It'll be deemed a failure for not having any real content or analysts will say they had all these potential avenues for partnerships but didn't fully develop the plan. The geeks will say it's too expensive anyway and it'll be a failure to all.
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- work out a deal with ESPN to offer a version of sports center that could be DLed overnight that I could watch on my way to work (I ride the subway in NYC)

- same model could be applied to CNN for news content, Weather Channel, business news etc.

- i work in broadcast design, would love to show clients my demo reel, works in progress etc.

- i imagine people who use power point or keynote would like to be able to show their presentations without always having to lug their laptop around with them


This all might seem frivolous but I remember the reaction to the announcement of the 1st iPod and the mac community thought that Jobs had gone insane....]]>Dec 19th 2005 12:05AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2004/10/27/switched-on-the-ipod-photos-slippery-slope-towards-video/http://www.engadget.com/2004/10/27/switched-on-the-ipod-photos-slippery-slope-towards-video/]]>Dec 19th 2005 12:05AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2004/10/27/switched-on-the-ipod-photos-slippery-slope-towards-video/http://www.engadget.com/2004/10/27/switched-on-the-ipod-photos-slippery-slope-towards-video/Dec 19th 2005 12:05AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2004/10/27/switched-on-the-ipod-photos-slippery-slope-towards-video/http://www.engadget.com/2004/10/27/switched-on-the-ipod-photos-slippery-slope-towards-video/
I don't believe Steve will itroduce a video iPod (vPod?) anytime soon until copyright issues are worked out and a suitable CODEC is available (w/ Tiger). Once these hurdles were jumped in music the rest fell into place.

I believe it'll be the same for video.

2c]]>Dec 19th 2005 12:05AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2004/10/27/switched-on-the-ipod-photos-slippery-slope-towards-video/http://www.engadget.com/2004/10/27/switched-on-the-ipod-photos-slippery-slope-towards-video/inevitable. However, what about 3GPP, QuickTime, and
cell phones? As these "new school" convergence devices
get beefier (like Nokia's 6600) and the vaporous 3G
network gets better, you WILL be able to see videos.
On-demand, and in your pocket. Didn't I just read
about Apple's sneaky behind-the-scenes entrenchment
campaign for content SERVERS with Verizon and Sprint?
Hm. I knew I shoulda bought APPL at $16/share!]]>Dec 19th 2005 12:05AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2004/10/27/switched-on-the-ipod-photos-slippery-slope-towards-video/http://www.engadget.com/2004/10/27/switched-on-the-ipod-photos-slippery-slope-towards-video/
I do have one of them - thank goodness, one I bought at a closeout store, so I didn't waste too much money on it. The 'oooh, cool gadget!' feeling lasted about a week. After that, it basically sat unused on a shelf for months at a time, and the last time I actually used it was this summer during a severe weather-induced blackout.

The pundits down on watching video on a small screen have a very good point; the novelty of a small screen to carry with you is cool for a little bit, but wears off very quickly. From all I've been able to see, the little porta-TVs have flopped miserably in the market; every year or two there's a brief flurry of interest, they show up briefly on store shelves, then vanish without a trace. I certainly can't remember seeing anyone else actually using one. These were gadgets that sold for a fifth the price of a pocket video player. Why do people think this rendition will fare any differently?

Ever since the original Walkman, there's been a huge, obvious demand for portable audio. I have never seen any sign of even remotely comparable demand for portable video in this form factor.

One portable video player design I could see is something the size of one of the portable DVD players; they've had a pretty good penetration into the consumer market, and seem to have had reasonable staying power over the last couple of years. But now we're not talking about a video iPod, are we?]]>Dec 19th 2005 12:05AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2004/10/27/switched-on-the-ipod-photos-slippery-slope-towards-video/http://www.engadget.com/2004/10/27/switched-on-the-ipod-photos-slippery-slope-towards-video/Dec 19th 2005 12:05AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2004/10/27/switched-on-the-ipod-photos-slippery-slope-towards-video/http://www.engadget.com/2004/10/27/switched-on-the-ipod-photos-slippery-slope-towards-video/Dec 19th 2005 12:05AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2004/10/27/switched-on-the-ipod-photos-slippery-slope-towards-video/http://www.engadget.com/2004/10/27/switched-on-the-ipod-photos-slippery-slope-towards-video/
..Having said that.. your lust for PMC is nice, but you are in the vaaaast minority of people that need to show off video for their jobs and, for some reason, dont want to get a laptop computer to do just that.]]>Dec 19th 2005 12:05AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2004/10/27/switched-on-the-ipod-photos-slippery-slope-towards-video/http://www.engadget.com/2004/10/27/switched-on-the-ipod-photos-slippery-slope-towards-video/
The path.

Difference.

BTW take a look @ this page:
http://www.portalplayer.com/products/platforms_mediaplayer.html

"Copy or move photos from a digital camera via USB On-The-Go"]]>Dec 19th 2005 12:05AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2004/10/27/switched-on-the-ipod-photos-slippery-slope-towards-video/http://www.engadget.com/2004/10/27/switched-on-the-ipod-photos-slippery-slope-towards-video/
Maybe video iPod will come about when Batteries FINALLY get better, mobile compression become AWESOME (I'm not talking about the streaming stuff cell phones use), and maybe when OLEDs finally show up on our iPods (saving us just that little bit of extra juice).

Yea... small screen's a problem but I'm sure Apple could make the first useful touch screen media player or even move/add a screen to the entire back (sure it’d scratch easily there but we’re not already used to that with the current iPods) for video play back (much bigger screen). No one knows for sure what apple will do for next but I wouldn’t say ‘never’ with a Video iPod.

I’m currently 18 looking to major in Industrial Design. I’m sure by the time I get out of college and start on my carrier I’ll still be marveling at John Ive’s and his development team thinking ‘damn I wish I helped make that’.
]]>Dec 19th 2005 12:05AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2004/10/27/switched-on-the-ipod-photos-slippery-slope-towards-video/http://www.engadget.com/2004/10/27/switched-on-the-ipod-photos-slippery-slope-towards-video/
not read all the comments or article but have you people not seen the archos device?

www.archos.com]]>Dec 19th 2005 12:05AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2004/10/27/switched-on-the-ipod-photos-slippery-slope-towards-video/http://www.engadget.com/2004/10/27/switched-on-the-ipod-photos-slippery-slope-towards-video/Dec 19th 2005 12:05AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2004/10/27/switched-on-the-ipod-photos-slippery-slope-towards-video/http://www.engadget.com/2004/10/27/switched-on-the-ipod-photos-slippery-slope-towards-video/
Apple really do make good products, with good design which is ahead of its time and content that is way behind. May be that is the way SJ balance the universe. As all major portable device manufacturer leaping thru the market with "Portable Media Device" Music+Photo+Video; Apple is certainly behind.

What are they waiting for?? Only god will know.]]>Dec 19th 2005 12:05AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2004/10/27/switched-on-the-ipod-photos-slippery-slope-towards-video/http://www.engadget.com/2004/10/27/switched-on-the-ipod-photos-slippery-slope-towards-video/Dec 19th 2005 12:05AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2004/10/27/switched-on-the-ipod-photos-slippery-slope-towards-video/http://www.engadget.com/2004/10/27/switched-on-the-ipod-photos-slippery-slope-towards-video/
The symptoms are easy to spot: numerous and continually better versions of a product are released over time; Each time the consumer is expected to believe that the current release is the best thing ever and no future release could ever top it. [Ya, how many updates of the original SW Trilogy are realy required?]

Apple claims there will *never* be a video iPod; Everyone buys iPods. Apple makes video iPods; everyone buys another [newer] iPod. Apple's profits double.

I think cmoney's comment posted on October 27th pretty much sums up Apple's trademark strategy and perhaps future plans.]]>Dec 19th 2005 12:05AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2004/10/27/switched-on-the-ipod-photos-slippery-slope-towards-video/http://www.engadget.com/2004/10/27/switched-on-the-ipod-photos-slippery-slope-towards-video/My ipod (of the future) would use the video out port to connect to a TV, and then give me a simple command line or icon interface to turn my ipod into a pda that i could use in anyone's house, at the office or at home without anthing more than the ipod itself and a cable. All my data just there, then i could transfer to another persons ipod, and collaborate on projects, share files etc.
And on the train to work i could make do with the tiny colour screen.
(of course if they want to give me a vga out rather than video...)]]>Dec 19th 2005 12:05AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2004/10/27/switched-on-the-ipod-photos-slippery-slope-towards-video/http://www.engadget.com/2004/10/27/switched-on-the-ipod-photos-slippery-slope-towards-video/
For the people talking about only geeks would be interested in Video iPod, they just don't understand how Apple will work it.

iPods effect on our culture is incredible! People don't ask for Mp3 players when they go to stores, they ask for iPods. The iPod has become the Coke, Xerox & Klennex of Mp3 players. That is an extremely important assest to any product and is one of the man reason's Apple will introduce video to the iPod.

Daryl & CMoney both have some great points about how Apple works and what they will do. If people knew they were coming out with Video iPods now, they'd loose sales of there current units. Apple will probably drop the price of there current units to try to get as sold as possible b4 introducing Video to the iPod.

Just from seeing what my iPod can do(performance wise) I know it can display videos, especially on a 2" screen(low resolution atleast). I'd love to watch Music Videos on my iPod, or even TV Shows(Family guy, Fresh Prince,etc..) That's easy to do for Apple. It's a no brainer that the format would support MOV and MPG just like Quicktime. You can pretty much throw Divx out the window, MPAA wouldn't allow that.

Video on an iPod will happen, probably this holiday season or next. Now, the biggest curveball is Movies on an iPod. It's possible, but if I worked at Apple i'd advise them to focus "primarily" on Music Videos and TV shows b/c movies are just not the same on a little screen and the MPAA is a cry baby.
**FOR THE RECORD: having the discovery or history channel on an iPod would be cool.
**Using the iPod for as portable tutorial player would be great for engineers/students like myself. Rather it be: working on cars or excersise techniques. I hope Apple is thinking about this.

I think the iPod is cooler than a PDA, now it's time for Apple to take over the portable media market like Microsoft did computers. It's already a nice protable Hard drive.]]>Dec 19th 2005 12:05AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2004/10/27/switched-on-the-ipod-photos-slippery-slope-towards-video/http://www.engadget.com/2004/10/27/switched-on-the-ipod-photos-slippery-slope-towards-video/
It wouldn't be too hard to setup - and I'm sure the processor in the Photo would be good enough for fast video playback.

My digital video camera has a firewire socket - so surely all they need to do is release a Apple/Belkin/Something video connector with a firewire socket.

I understand that the iPod Linux contains video playback so might wait for that to be ported across to the iPod photo.]]>Dec 19th 2005 12:05AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2004/10/27/switched-on-the-ipod-photos-slippery-slope-towards-video/http://www.engadget.com/2004/10/27/switched-on-the-ipod-photos-slippery-slope-towards-video/
It wouldn't be too hard to setup - and I'm sure the processor in the Photo would be good enough for fast video playback.

My digital video camera has a firewire socket - so surely all they need to do is release a Apple/Belkin/Something video connector with a firewire socket.

I understand that the iPod Linux contains video playback so might wait for that to be ported across to the iPod photo.]]>Dec 19th 2005 12:05AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2004/10/27/switched-on-the-ipod-photos-slippery-slope-towards-video/http://www.engadget.com/2004/10/27/switched-on-the-ipod-photos-slippery-slope-towards-video/
* Compact clamshell design with screen on top half and click wheel on bottom. (kind of like a pocket-Powerbook)

* Metallic construction

* 4" 16:9 widescreen display

* Approximately the same length as current models, maybe a centimeter wider, and under .75" thick.

* Small wired remote included for controlling basic music functions without having to open up the unit.

* $499 or less

* Hopefully enough storage for the slogan:

"100 movies in your pocket".


A year from now I'll probably be able to see how close I was to the mark.]]>Dec 19th 2005 12:05AM