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<generator>Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/</generator><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on New Standard Keyboard's 53-keyer]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2005/01/03/new-standard-keyboards-53-keyer/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2005/01/03/new-standard-keyboards-53-keyer/</guid><description><![CDATA[I will predict the month this company files for bankruptcy...   May, 2005.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[KIVERS]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Dec 19th 2005 2:14AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on New Standard Keyboard's 53-keyer]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2005/01/03/new-standard-keyboards-53-keyer/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2005/01/03/new-standard-keyboards-53-keyer/</guid><description><![CDATA[I didn't know Fisher Price made PC keyboards.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Jeff]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Dec 19th 2005 2:14AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on New Standard Keyboard's 53-keyer]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2005/01/03/new-standard-keyboards-53-keyer/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2005/01/03/new-standard-keyboards-53-keyer/</guid><description><![CDATA[That just looks _awkward_.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[will]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Dec 19th 2005 2:14AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on New Standard Keyboard's 53-keyer]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2005/01/03/new-standard-keyboards-53-keyer/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2005/01/03/new-standard-keyboards-53-keyer/</guid><description><![CDATA[I'm sure this will be a success. The Roman alphabet's character order was originally arranged while considering keyboard ergonomics, right?<br><br>Can I plug my chording keyboard and my VR glove into this one's USB ports?]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Dorkus Malorkus]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Dec 19th 2005 2:14AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on New Standard Keyboard's 53-keyer]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2005/01/03/new-standard-keyboards-53-keyer/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2005/01/03/new-standard-keyboards-53-keyer/</guid><description><![CDATA[So...the wrist-rest goes right where the function keys are?  You can tell a lot of time went into actually *testing* this product.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Ben]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Dec 19th 2005 2:14AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on New Standard Keyboard's 53-keyer]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2005/01/03/new-standard-keyboards-53-keyer/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2005/01/03/new-standard-keyboards-53-keyer/</guid><description><![CDATA[Elderly? My grandmother was a secretary for 40 years and could type faster than anyone I know! How the hell would this monstrosity benefit her with all the keys in the wrong place. This looks like the type of thing I mock up in photoshop for a Joke!]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Rick James]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Dec 19th 2005 2:14AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on New Standard Keyboard's 53-keyer]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2005/01/03/new-standard-keyboards-53-keyer/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2005/01/03/new-standard-keyboards-53-keyer/</guid><description><![CDATA[This is so fucking retarded that people will actually buy it !]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[frumin]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Dec 19th 2005 2:14AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on New Standard Keyboard's 53-keyer]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2005/01/03/new-standard-keyboards-53-keyer/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2005/01/03/new-standard-keyboards-53-keyer/</guid><description><![CDATA[I'm in agreement with Rick James, wasn't the typewriter around for quite a while before everyone switched to computers?  My grandmother isn't intimidated by the QWERTY keyboard.  It's the rest of the keys around the basic alphabet, plus the concept of the computer, that freaks her out.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Patrick]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Dec 19th 2005 2:14AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on New Standard Keyboard's 53-keyer]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2005/01/03/new-standard-keyboards-53-keyer/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2005/01/03/new-standard-keyboards-53-keyer/</guid><description><![CDATA[where is the space key?]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[shaun]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Dec 19th 2005 2:14AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on New Standard Keyboard's 53-keyer]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2005/01/03/new-standard-keyboards-53-keyer/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2005/01/03/new-standard-keyboards-53-keyer/</guid><description><![CDATA[the ABCDEF arrangement for typing has got to be the lamest i have ever had to use. i forget what it even was that had it... but it took like 3-4 times as long as just normal QWERTY even though i am pretty good at knowing the order of the alphabet. and how does this layout help anyone? even other Roman-letter using countries don't use QWERTY by default... lest we forget non-Roman-letter countries. so it's not like computers can now just ship solely with the 'new standard' and call it a day. besides most computers let you switch your keyboard layout to whatever nerdlinger layout you might want to use anyway. pop the keys off and save $70. <br><br>and this reminds me of the Steven Wright quote (though he is often misquoted... so maybe not) : <br><br>"Why is the alphabet in that order? Is it because of that song?"]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[010111]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Dec 19th 2005 2:14AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on New Standard Keyboard's 53-keyer]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2005/01/03/new-standard-keyboards-53-keyer/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2005/01/03/new-standard-keyboards-53-keyer/</guid><description><![CDATA[Instead of changing the keyboard to match the alphabet, we should change the alphabet to match the keyboard.  I can hear the song now, "QWERTYU, IOPASDFGH.  JKL, ZXC, VB, N and M, now I've sung my QWE's... "  damn, it doesn't rhyme. :'(<br><br>Shaun is right, there's no space key...  D'oh!]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[juliuss]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Dec 19th 2005 2:14AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on New Standard Keyboard's 53-keyer]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2005/01/03/new-standard-keyboards-53-keyer/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2005/01/03/new-standard-keyboards-53-keyer/</guid><description><![CDATA[Ihavenoproblemswiththiskeyboardwhatsoever. Icanhighlyrecommendit!]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Rick James]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Dec 19th 2005 2:14AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on New Standard Keyboard's 53-keyer]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2005/01/03/new-standard-keyboards-53-keyer/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2005/01/03/new-standard-keyboards-53-keyer/</guid><description><![CDATA[I think the keyboard has potential.  The spacebar is reduced to a single button and the saved space is dedicated to other keys.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[weber]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Dec 19th 2005 2:14AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on New Standard Keyboard's 53-keyer]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2005/01/03/new-standard-keyboards-53-keyer/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2005/01/03/new-standard-keyboards-53-keyer/</guid><description><![CDATA[Actually, the QWERTY keyboard was designed to slow down typists, orginal typewriter keypads were in alphabetical order - but typists typed too quickly and jammed up the machines. The QWERTY keyboard is the "new" thing compared to alphabetical keyboards. QWERTY pads are specifically made to slow down typing, imagine that - in these days of mass efficiency and fast computers, we still hang onto our old bottleneck keyboards.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Dave Roberts]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Dec 19th 2005 2:14AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on New Standard Keyboard's 53-keyer]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2005/01/03/new-standard-keyboards-53-keyer/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2005/01/03/new-standard-keyboards-53-keyer/</guid><description><![CDATA[actually the qwerty lay out is not to slow down typists but to spread out the most used keys to prvent said key jams from fast typing. Totalyy pointless in the modern world buy essential with mechanical type writer]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Gambit410]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Dec 19th 2005 2:14AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on New Standard Keyboard's 53-keyer]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2005/01/03/new-standard-keyboards-53-keyer/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2005/01/03/new-standard-keyboards-53-keyer/</guid><description><![CDATA[I don't think it was to slow down typists, but to more widely spread the most used keys' "strikers" (the thingies that actually rose up and hit the ribbon, I don't know what they are really called) on old mechanical typewriters. This was long before the selectric with the little ball or even daisywheel; each key had a separate mechanical arm and if two nearby keys were pressed, the arms could bind up. The most-used keys were then placed mechanically far from each other and it resulted in the QWERTY keyboard. It may have had the effect of slowing typists, but I don't think that was the intention. <br>?]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[ncdoc]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Dec 19th 2005 2:14AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on New Standard Keyboard's 53-keyer]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2005/01/03/new-standard-keyboards-53-keyer/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2005/01/03/new-standard-keyboards-53-keyer/</guid><description><![CDATA["The most-used keys were then placed mechanically far from each other and it resulted in the QWERTY keyboard. It may have had the effect of slowing typists, but I don't think that was the intention."<br><br>It wasn't, that's an urban legend.  It was basically as you say - the main problem was that if you made a mistake (as people often do) and hit two adjacent keys by mistake, you'd have to take your hands off the keyboard and unhook the keys from each other.<br><br>My mother used to have an old striker style typewriter so I have some experience with this.<br><br>The end result was that qwerty keyboards actually sped up typing speeds because errors no longer took 10-15 seconds to fix.  If you made an adjacent key error on a qwerty typewriter, the arms might both fly up towards the paper, but they'd never really get close to each other before you caught the error and took your hands off the keys.<br><br>There's nothing any more intuitive about an abc keyboard than a qwerty keyboard; both have to be learned.  Once you learn qwerty, it's no slower than alphabetic.  I know when I've tried to type on alphabetic keyboards lately I'm like... well, like somebody who doesn't know how to type.<br><br>Thus ends our history lesson for the day.<br>]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Jeff]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Dec 19th 2005 2:14AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on New Standard Keyboard's 53-keyer]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2005/01/03/new-standard-keyboards-53-keyer/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2005/01/03/new-standard-keyboards-53-keyer/</guid><description><![CDATA[I'll cite my source when I get home.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Dave Roberts]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Dec 19th 2005 2:14AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on New Standard Keyboard's 53-keyer]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2005/01/03/new-standard-keyboards-53-keyer/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2005/01/03/new-standard-keyboards-53-keyer/</guid><description><![CDATA[You know, scratch that - I was remembering wrong.  It's not adjacent keys, it's key combinations.  Yeah, that's the ticket.  It's all about separating the most common key combinations so the striker arms don't get locked up.<br><br>Anyway, the rest of my post still applies.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Jeff]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Dec 19th 2005 2:14AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on New Standard Keyboard's 53-keyer]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2005/01/03/new-standard-keyboards-53-keyer/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2005/01/03/new-standard-keyboards-53-keyer/</guid><description><![CDATA[And you could take it even further back...<br><br>The problem wouldn't have appeared if the mechanism (key "risers") had not been the one used. But the only reason they used that particular mechanism was that the manufacturer had craploads of triggers for riffles and decided to use them for the typewriters.<br><br>Thanks Remington.<br><br>G.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[juepucta]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Dec 19th 2005 2:14AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on New Standard Keyboard's 53-keyer]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2005/01/03/new-standard-keyboards-53-keyer/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2005/01/03/new-standard-keyboards-53-keyer/</guid><description><![CDATA[Interestingly enough, proof of the mechanical usage origin of QWERTY can be found in foreign keyboards.  In Italy they W and the Z keys are switched so that their system is QZERTY.<br><br>You know if they plan to sell the above alphabetic keyboard, they should have some basic typing trainer software built in as to assist in quicker typing.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Maikeru]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Dec 19th 2005 2:14AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on New Standard Keyboard's 53-keyer]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2005/01/03/new-standard-keyboards-53-keyer/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2005/01/03/new-standard-keyboards-53-keyer/</guid><description><![CDATA[i notuce the qwerty does pretty well for a keyboard, in common usage, regular switching of fingers is one of the best designs for this system<br><br>but this qwerty will never be as good on portables where people most likely will use too fingers b/c using qwerty doesnt make u change hands enough, in fact it would benefit desktop and laptop to have another system that spread the most common and mostly commonly together letters on opposite hands, othewise there still will be "teh" and the like]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[AznFX]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Dec 19th 2005 2:14AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on New Standard Keyboard's 53-keyer]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2005/01/03/new-standard-keyboards-53-keyer/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2005/01/03/new-standard-keyboards-53-keyer/</guid><description><![CDATA[I made the switch to Dvorak in 2001 and I couldn't be happier.  It's the only layout that actually makes sense (at least for the English language).]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Steven]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Dec 19th 2005 2:14AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on New Standard Keyboard's 53-keyer]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2005/01/03/new-standard-keyboards-53-keyer/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2005/01/03/new-standard-keyboards-53-keyer/</guid><description><![CDATA[I like how the vowels are all in hard to reach spots. The a,e,i are all on the far left and the iu are on the far right. So you have to use your pinkie to type them and... well, that's just so easy and efficient. And the space bar... well it isn't easy to see. I think this has to be a joke. There's no way someone would think this layout would be efficient. - Owen]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Owen]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Dec 19th 2005 2:14AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on New Standard Keyboard's 53-keyer]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2005/01/03/new-standard-keyboards-53-keyer/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2005/01/03/new-standard-keyboards-53-keyer/</guid><description><![CDATA[All I can say is Wow.  That is the coolest design for a keyboard I've ever seen.  A tiny space key, weird colors, no dedicated function or number keys, hard to type vowels, the weirdest cursor keys I've ever seen.  Man this keyboard rocks!  In fact, this company might even sell 1 keyboard!  I can't believe it!]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Jeff]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Dec 19th 2005 2:14AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on New Standard Keyboard's 53-keyer]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2005/01/03/new-standard-keyboards-53-keyer/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2005/01/03/new-standard-keyboards-53-keyer/</guid><description><![CDATA[i used a Dvorak board for quite some time before everyone else in the house demanded their lil qwerty board back.....<br><br>oh well....i had learnt to type as fast on a Dvorak as i was on qwerty, good thing is i can use both now :-P..maybe I should get some practice on the ABC keyboard too]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Felix Li]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Dec 19th 2005 2:14AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on New Standard Keyboard's 53-keyer]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2005/01/03/new-standard-keyboards-53-keyer/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2005/01/03/new-standard-keyboards-53-keyer/</guid><description><![CDATA[Well I am all for keyboard reform, but the ABC arrangement does nothing for typing ease. <br><br>Now DVORAK makes more sense as it was actually designed to speed things up. So I would get a Dvorak before this.<br><br>The reform I would like to see is more ergonomic layout, removal of the keypad which gets in the way of the mouse. <br><br>Maybe ABC is good for someone with alzhiemers that can't learn anything new, but I am betting it is not the fastest layout for a typist capable of learning a layout.<br><br>I also predict a fast death to this idea.<br><br>]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Peter G]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Dec 19th 2005 2:14AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on New Standard Keyboard's 53-keyer]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2005/01/03/new-standard-keyboards-53-keyer/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2005/01/03/new-standard-keyboards-53-keyer/</guid><description><![CDATA[I am running a gamer-oriented company, www.xgamer.ca and I can't believe someone actually reach the point where they even consider selling this.<br><br>Just imagine: instead of the WASD layout, Counter-Strike players will use the BEFG layout, jump using the caps key, while making sure not to accidentaly pressing the weird blue button, select their weapons using.... OH shit! no keys to select your weapons. This keyboard is so wrong it could be released with the Phantom console. <br><br>I actually would like to have more keys and functionnality on a new keyboard than to be literally handicaped like that. <br><br>What a shame, they completely left gamers apart and that could reveal to be a huge mistake. As part of my job, I have to seek out new interesting products and innovations and I can easily predict that no gamers want this product.<br><br>Unless you are masochist and wish to add an extra level of difficulty to Far Cry (wich you dont want).]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[PO]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Dec 19th 2005 2:14AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on New Standard Keyboard's 53-keyer]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2005/01/03/new-standard-keyboards-53-keyer/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2005/01/03/new-standard-keyboards-53-keyer/</guid><description><![CDATA[LOL, did I mention that my hotmail adress starts with qwerasdf. I use this email adress for "fast and effient" access to my inbox. This actually turns out to be the 2nd best reason (1st being the gaming thing), why I will never use this product.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[PO]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Dec 19th 2005 2:14AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on New Standard Keyboard's 53-keyer]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2005/01/03/new-standard-keyboards-53-keyer/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2005/01/03/new-standard-keyboards-53-keyer/</guid><description><![CDATA[there is also the fact that the letters that spelled typewriter were all placed along the top row so that the company reps could spell it quickly while they were demo'ing them to customers .. how ergonomic or efficent can the design be after they 'fixed' it to do that, it took me 3 days to learn touch type on a dvorak where i never learned qwerty properly and i use one of the big old IBM keyboards that has very positive feedback and the ability to brain somebody with it if they keep nagging at you about the clicking noise that it makes.<br>check out http://www.typematrix.com/dvorak/ if you are looking for a hardwired board that can switch between the two with a size similar to the one above.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Alan]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Dec 19th 2005 2:14AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on New Standard Keyboard's 53-keyer]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2005/01/03/new-standard-keyboards-53-keyer/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2005/01/03/new-standard-keyboards-53-keyer/</guid><description><![CDATA[We should have a showdown between traditional and the new way of doing things.  if it is faster, than we should see it in the benchmark.  We could also look at how fast students pick up the two different layouts.  Over to academia to answer...]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Val]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Dec 19th 2005 2:14AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on New Standard Keyboard's 53-keyer]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2005/01/03/new-standard-keyboards-53-keyer/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2005/01/03/new-standard-keyboards-53-keyer/</guid><description><![CDATA[<br>The transposition of the letters dfjk with etni on a standard keyboard increases the amount of text typed from the four keys under the middle and index fingers by five times, from 7.5% to 37%.  While not as efficient as the Dvorak keyboard, it is much easier to learn.  The transposed keys remain under the same fingers, the transition can be thought out without benifit of a keyboard map.  For those who might worry that they will not be able to go back to qwerty, the experience of many Dvorak users is that a typist can be bikeybordal.  The letters etni are fairly easy to get used to but you may find yourself trying to type dfjk from their old locations.   <br> <br>I have found a keyboard remapping program that is free, downloads quickly and is very easy to use.  I am typing this post on a keyboard remapped to the etni transposition layout.<br>The program is called 'Keytweak 2.11' and can be googled up by that name.  It is available from several sites, includeing PC magazine.  The creator of the program is Travis Krumsick.<br> <br>After you have loaded the program hit start. <br>Click the keytweak icon and a graphic of a keyboard will appear.<br>Click the 'Full teach mode' at the bottom of the screen.<br>A box will appear.  Click 'begin teach mode'.<br>Press the key you want to reassign, then the key you want it reassigned to.  In this case d and e.<br>Click 'remap key#1 to key#2'<br>The box will disappear and the scancodes of the keys will appear in the 'pending changes' window at the bottom right.<br>Follow the same procedure for the remaining seven remaps.<br>Click 'apply' and you will be asked if you want to turn off the computer to apply the changes.<br>At the top there is also a clickable 'restore defaults' to give you back your qwerty layout.<br>The whole process takes less than five minutes.<br> <br>A few days ago I came upon a post in 'hardware forum' that Typingmaster 6.3 supports etni. <br> <br>]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Step]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Dec 19th 2005 2:14AM</pubDate></item></channel></rss>
