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man, technology. leaps and bounds!]]>Dec 19th 2005 12:09AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/01/24/psp-amp-ds-clones-arrive-in-force/http://www.engadget.com/2005/01/24/psp-amp-ds-clones-arrive-in-force/
I used to be excited about the psp, but it is gonna blow. I haven't anybody talking about Sony making the needed changes to the device for it to succeed in America, as in, increase battery life, fix loading times, secure the umd loading mechanism (no more flying disks); as far as I know, sony hasn't made any of these changes, so nobody other than sony fanboys are going to seriously consider buying this device.]]>Dec 19th 2005 12:09AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/01/24/psp-amp-ds-clones-arrive-in-force/http://www.engadget.com/2005/01/24/psp-amp-ds-clones-arrive-in-force/
YOU INSULT ME, my PSP lasts 12-13hrs with 2 battery, easy to change, Loading times aren't that bad, by the time your actually waiting its loaded, DISCS DO NOT FLY OUT! EVER! Unless you are trying to break the thing - as hard as I was willing to twist it, nothing happened. Just so you know I've had all the GameBoys on the day of release and thought until I read actual revies that the PSP wouldn't be a success. But I have Metal Gear, Ridge Racers, Puzzle Bobble and Puyo Pop Fever and it is amazing.

As to battery lifes, for some reason Americans don't care about that, or Apple would be failing, hint hint iPod, people choose an 8hr ipod over a 30hr sony player? ??????????

The PSP is the coolest bit of gaming kit that's every existed hands down, you would regret insulting it if you bought one.

ShMeE]]>Dec 19th 2005 12:09AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/01/24/psp-amp-ds-clones-arrive-in-force/http://www.engadget.com/2005/01/24/psp-amp-ds-clones-arrive-in-force/
I like the PSP (I paid a small fortune for mine), but let's come back down to earth, k'?]]>Dec 19th 2005 12:09AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/01/24/psp-amp-ds-clones-arrive-in-force/http://www.engadget.com/2005/01/24/psp-amp-ds-clones-arrive-in-force/Dec 19th 2005 12:09AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/01/24/psp-amp-ds-clones-arrive-in-force/http://www.engadget.com/2005/01/24/psp-amp-ds-clones-arrive-in-force/
I didn't say no loading times, read it again! I said that they were short enough that it wasn't a problem. Before I got it I was worried about it, but when I play San Andreas which takes fooking ages to turn on it makes me think that the PSP is not a problem.

Now far more sensibly, if I'm going somewhere where I am going to play for more than 6hrs, I will be taking my Laptop, Camera, PDA, MP3, Change of Clothes, Shoes, blah blah so carrying 1 more little battery ain't much of a problem, but if for some reason it is flat and I am going out somewhere, I can swap the battery and go!!! Makes sense, it's only £30!

ShMeE]]>Dec 19th 2005 12:09AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/01/24/psp-amp-ds-clones-arrive-in-force/http://www.engadget.com/2005/01/24/psp-amp-ds-clones-arrive-in-force/Do u know which 1 is dominating the market at the moment?]]>Dec 19th 2005 12:09AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/01/24/psp-amp-ds-clones-arrive-in-force/http://www.engadget.com/2005/01/24/psp-amp-ds-clones-arrive-in-force/Dec 19th 2005 12:09AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/01/24/psp-amp-ds-clones-arrive-in-force/http://www.engadget.com/2005/01/24/psp-amp-ds-clones-arrive-in-force/"My keyboard can twist 1 inch!"
"That's nothing! Mine can go 2 inches before a key pops off!"

Really it's more of a feature... Would you rather the UMD shatter into a million pieces when you get so excited that you must contort your PSP into new shapes?
I have a few older MD players laying around, I just hope the PSP doesn't get the dreaded TOC errors!]]>Dec 19th 2005 12:09AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/01/24/psp-amp-ds-clones-arrive-in-force/http://www.engadget.com/2005/01/24/psp-amp-ds-clones-arrive-in-force/
Well, it's not like battery life is the only difference between Apple's stylish, trendy, iTunes-integrated, MP3-playing device and Sony's weirdo ATRAC-using abominations...
]]>Dec 19th 2005 12:09AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/01/24/psp-amp-ds-clones-arrive-in-force/http://www.engadget.com/2005/01/24/psp-amp-ds-clones-arrive-in-force/
The most recent sales charts, concluding on January 16, show sales of PSP hitting 64,600, some way ahead of the DS, which sold 53,500 units.

It would seem that the lure of the ‘Screen of God’ has proved too great to resist, in spite of the small number of quality titles for PSP being available right now.

The figure for Sony’s machine also doesn’t include the machines exported which account for significant sales in the US and Europe.

The DS can however claim a software victory in Japan's games chart, with Wario Ware: Touched! taking the number four spot, ahead of Super Mario 64 DS at number seven. There were two PSP titles to chart, Everybody's Golf Portable at number eight and Dynasty Warriors at number ten.]]>Dec 19th 2005 12:09AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/01/24/psp-amp-ds-clones-arrive-in-force/http://www.engadget.com/2005/01/24/psp-amp-ds-clones-arrive-in-force/Dec 19th 2005 12:09AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/01/24/psp-amp-ds-clones-arrive-in-force/http://www.engadget.com/2005/01/24/psp-amp-ds-clones-arrive-in-force/
-Vizzue]]>Dec 19th 2005 12:09AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/01/24/psp-amp-ds-clones-arrive-in-force/http://www.engadget.com/2005/01/24/psp-amp-ds-clones-arrive-in-force/
and another thing...the battery "problem" apparently isn't really a problem. while it would be better to have the battery last through longer cycles...three hours for games like ridge racers isn't that bad. i personally can't stand playing on a handheld for long lengths of time...so three hours is pretty long. nothing that a quick charge won't fix.

if you're stupid enough to twist your PSP enough that the UMD pops out...you're a moron.]]>Dec 19th 2005 12:09AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/01/24/psp-amp-ds-clones-arrive-in-force/http://www.engadget.com/2005/01/24/psp-amp-ds-clones-arrive-in-force/ Sony's player in my opinion looks better, is just as stylish, smaller, lighter, plays MP3s with the same fast transfer rate, good Sony Connect incorporation, and best of all is not as common as an ipod. Just so you know, I have a 20gb ipod and the 20gb sony nw-hd3 and I know which one wins hands down... the Sony.

ShMeE]]>Dec 19th 2005 12:09AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/01/24/psp-amp-ds-clones-arrive-in-force/http://www.engadget.com/2005/01/24/psp-amp-ds-clones-arrive-in-force/Dec 19th 2005 12:09AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/01/24/psp-amp-ds-clones-arrive-in-force/http://www.engadget.com/2005/01/24/psp-amp-ds-clones-arrive-in-force/1-Game Boy
2-Game Boy Pocket
3-Game Boy Color
4-Game Boy Advance
5-Game Boy Advance SP
6-Nindtendo DS

and..... wait for it....a new Game Boy in 2006 (one year from now) being called the Game Boy Evolution. How quick will the few games for DS come out when they stop developing for that and they only make games for the new Game Boy? The DS will not be supported for connection to the Gamecube or the new Nintendo Console next year. The DS is just a stopgap for Nintendo to get a few bucks in hardware sales for the ppl who will buy a new handheld every year or two. I really want to believe Nintendo will support online play with the DS, but they released a network card for the Gamecube and never supported it, so I'll believe online play for the DS when I see it.

All in all, I'd rather have a handheld that's got enough hardware power to last more than a year or two, has a lot of quality 3rd party developers, a proven track record of *free* online gaming (Sony please read this and don't go the way of the XBox Live charging for online gaming) with some room for expandability on the same handheld (software updates and peripherals).



but I'll still probably get a DS (or borrow one) to play stuff like Zelda and Animal Crossing......]]>Dec 19th 2005 12:09AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/01/24/psp-amp-ds-clones-arrive-in-force/http://www.engadget.com/2005/01/24/psp-amp-ds-clones-arrive-in-force/Dec 19th 2005 12:09AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/01/24/psp-amp-ds-clones-arrive-in-force/http://www.engadget.com/2005/01/24/psp-amp-ds-clones-arrive-in-force/HELLO! ur ur gonna bring a second battery if ur gonna b bothered to watch a long movie! duh! ur not gonna watch a movie for 5 minutes, ur probly on a long car journey, so ur gonna bring a second battery u thicko! And Nintendo DS is only dominated cos.... duh the PSP isnt out yet in some major countries. And some ppl spell you on the internet as "u" BECUZ its quicker and easier! check any message out, and plus ppl can still read it and dont spend a year typin it up in neat like you, so stop showin off and bein a mr. fancy pants! ( oh, i forgot, U R!)]]>Dec 19th 2005 12:09AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/01/24/psp-amp-ds-clones-arrive-in-force/http://www.engadget.com/2005/01/24/psp-amp-ds-clones-arrive-in-force/Num 8
if u think im a fanboy, y u even on here, cos
NEWSFLASH, we're talkin bout the psp and nintendo DS so shove off if u think everyone who types in a quicker way is a fanboy. y u even on here then?]]>Dec 19th 2005 12:09AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/01/24/psp-amp-ds-clones-arrive-in-force/http://www.engadget.com/2005/01/24/psp-amp-ds-clones-arrive-in-force/
Game Boy Evolution has not been announced. We only know that Nintendo is working on it, and various rumors have leaked about its capabilities from time to time.

It is definitely NOT coming out in 2006.

What is probably coming out in 2006 is Revolution, Nintendo's next home console.

Please try to get your facts straight. You've blown your entire "analysis".]]>Dec 19th 2005 12:09AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/01/24/psp-amp-ds-clones-arrive-in-force/http://www.engadget.com/2005/01/24/psp-amp-ds-clones-arrive-in-force/
You contradict yourself by saying that a probability has to be a fact. You can't say that the next Game Boy is definitely not coming out in 2006.

The Revolution is probably coming out in 2006. The Evolution is probabaly coming out in 2006 as well.

My main point is that Nintendo keeps releasing handheld systems about every two years. I've heard it way too many times that the PSP was going to be over $300 and how Nintendo has never had a handheld over $150. Now it's more than likely the PSP will be less than $200. I'd easily pay $200 now instead of $150 and then another $100-$150 for the next Gameboy. Yes backwards compatible has always been incorporated into Game Boys, but with the changing media this trend has begun to quickly fade (need I remind you that the DS ONLY plays single player GBA and doesn't even touch GB or GBC). Nintendo should just start to rethink the stranglehold they assume they will still have on the handheld market. They thought they had that in the consoles and we all know what happened when they assumed that...]]>Dec 19th 2005 12:09AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/01/24/psp-amp-ds-clones-arrive-in-force/http://www.engadget.com/2005/01/24/psp-amp-ds-clones-arrive-in-force/Dec 19th 2005 12:09AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/01/24/psp-amp-ds-clones-arrive-in-force/http://www.engadget.com/2005/01/24/psp-amp-ds-clones-arrive-in-force/if u think im a fanboy, y u even on here, cos
NEWSFLASH, we're talkin bout the psp and nintendo DS so shove off if u think everyone who types in a quicker way is a fanboy. y u even on here then?]]>Dec 19th 2005 12:09AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/01/24/psp-amp-ds-clones-arrive-in-force/http://www.engadget.com/2005/01/24/psp-amp-ds-clones-arrive-in-force/i think i'll probably get the ds because its more entertaining and can play on the wifi longer. the psp is pretty pricey too at almost double the price of the ds, in the UK anyway.
psp is great, but i have to go with ds on this one :D]]>Dec 19th 2005 12:09AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/01/24/psp-amp-ds-clones-arrive-in-force/http://www.engadget.com/2005/01/24/psp-amp-ds-clones-arrive-in-force/Dec 19th 2005 12:09AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/01/24/psp-amp-ds-clones-arrive-in-force/http://www.engadget.com/2005/01/24/psp-amp-ds-clones-arrive-in-force/Dec 19th 2005 12:09AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/01/24/psp-amp-ds-clones-arrive-in-force/http://www.engadget.com/2005/01/24/psp-amp-ds-clones-arrive-in-force/
Mario 64 was a blast and I thought the graphics were amazing…

Then I bought a PSP after playing Ridge Racer on the DS, then on the PSP! There simply no comparing the two! I sold my DS I just couldn’t take it seriously after playing the PSP. I thought to my self I paid $150 for my DS and waited for months for new games to come out and they never did, well they did come out with a few but none I liked.

I thought I paid $250 for my PSP it already has a firm number of launch titles plays MP3 and Movies Spider man 2 look amazing. I have already been able to surf the net on it (thanks Wipeout) even chat with IRC…all the cool things I hoped my DS would do but never did.
]]>Dec 19th 2005 12:09AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/01/24/psp-amp-ds-clones-arrive-in-force/http://www.engadget.com/2005/01/24/psp-amp-ds-clones-arrive-in-force/ok, admittedly, not all people who talk like that are fanboys, but on the whole they ARE 11-14 year olds who use aol and think it looks cool. So maybe get your daddy to remove your screen name until you learn to type good, yeah? :P
(slightly off-topic, but it had to be said)]]>Dec 19th 2005 12:09AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/01/24/psp-amp-ds-clones-arrive-in-force/http://www.engadget.com/2005/01/24/psp-amp-ds-clones-arrive-in-force/Only cos YOU look at the flippin sale figures for everything, we like the consoles. That doesnt class as fanboy- you fanboy.
So overall, looks like guy is a bit of a girl
now back to subject please?]]>Dec 19th 2005 12:09AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/01/24/psp-amp-ds-clones-arrive-in-force/http://www.engadget.com/2005/01/24/psp-amp-ds-clones-arrive-in-force/
Comparing it to psp is like apples and oranges. Nintendo realizes that not everyone will buy a ds, because not everyone wants 2 screens and touch sensitivity. But the ds is geared to a different audience then gameboys. The next handheld will be a single screened no touch sensitivity GAMEBOY, not ds.

So everyone relax, its not like the argument over the abilities of handhelds is really that important to your life. In a few years every thing will be different and it wont matter. (if arguing does make your life important than you should see a councillor).

New games will keep coming out on the ds because it is different, and nintendo isnt stupid enough to alienate the people who do enjoy it (especially after the virtual boy fiasco). Many games are planed for both systems, and if you want to look at it, both systems are failures.


The psp sucks as an mp3 player, memory sticks are just too expensive. Photo viewer? dont even joke, it only load high quality on the area you are looking at, if you have to scroll it is blurry. Movie player? i can get a portable dvd player that can play the dvd's I have, on a larger screen, with better speakers for CHEAPER. And if you plan on movieing with the stick, again expensive and pretty overated. It doesnt have any amazing games yet (coded arms is coming, but fps without another analog... it will be harch, they said they will use the buttons as directions ie. x is down o is right etc, and auto aim to help with accuracy, auto aim destroys some of the skill, you can only get so good, because you dont have to be good)

The Ds doenst have enough games, the touching needs to be worked on, but it serves great for fps's assuming you get used to it it is the only alternative to an anolog stick on the right. If online support comes like they plan then it wont be too bad.

Wireless is overated if you think about it, when are you in a hotspot? for me, in my house, then it isnt portable is it? i could just sit down in front of an xbox and play halo on a bigger screen with better graphics. wireless isnt the BEST idea for portables.

No dont get me worng, you can also say that they are both amazing, I cant wait for animal crossing, metroid and the final fantasies for ds and the numerous ports for the ds. I realize that expecting console graphics in your hand is stupid and you should all realize that no system STARTS with tons of games (except reverse compatible ie. ps2, gba, ds). Things will pick up, and dont give up yet, people said that the xbox would suck. The envelope will be pushed and controls will be improved. As to battery life, I hope they release a better on for the psp for when games push the processor to the limits. I also hope that they program around loading times, and make it as seamless as possible.

Finally, remember that they are different machines, therefore they are for different people and there will always be disagreements. Both systems are flawed, ojne is cheeper, one is more powerful. And just relax the world wont end if nintendo OR psp dominates.]]>Dec 19th 2005 12:09AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/01/24/psp-amp-ds-clones-arrive-in-force/http://www.engadget.com/2005/01/24/psp-amp-ds-clones-arrive-in-force/Dec 19th 2005 12:09AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/01/24/psp-amp-ds-clones-arrive-in-force/http://www.engadget.com/2005/01/24/psp-amp-ds-clones-arrive-in-force/There is no doubt the PSP looks good, but there will probably be a lot of duplicate games(one for the psp and one for the PS2). I'd rather have a DS for portable play and play games with superb graphics on a 30" screen.]]>Dec 19th 2005 12:09AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/01/24/psp-amp-ds-clones-arrive-in-force/http://www.engadget.com/2005/01/24/psp-amp-ds-clones-arrive-in-force/Dec 19th 2005 12:09AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/01/24/psp-amp-ds-clones-arrive-in-force/http://www.engadget.com/2005/01/24/psp-amp-ds-clones-arrive-in-force/Dec 19th 2005 12:09AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/01/24/psp-amp-ds-clones-arrive-in-force/http://www.engadget.com/2005/01/24/psp-amp-ds-clones-arrive-in-force/Dec 19th 2005 12:09AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/01/24/psp-amp-ds-clones-arrive-in-force/http://www.engadget.com/2005/01/24/psp-amp-ds-clones-arrive-in-force/
]]>Dec 19th 2005 12:09AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/01/24/psp-amp-ds-clones-arrive-in-force/http://www.engadget.com/2005/01/24/psp-amp-ds-clones-arrive-in-force/if ur weird enough to randomly twist your psp till the game pops out and shatters ur an absolute idiot no questions asked.
and as for my veiws on the psp, i think its great!....cant wait for xmas]]>Dec 19th 2005 12:09AM