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<generator>Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/</generator><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on The downside to using a biometric car lock]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2005/03/31/the-downside-to-using-a-biometric-car-lock/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2005/03/31/the-downside-to-using-a-biometric-car-lock/</guid><description><![CDATA[Can't afford a Mercedes S-Class, do I need to worry too? Noh!]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[ikkedus]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Dec 19th 2005 12:12AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on The downside to using a biometric car lock]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2005/03/31/the-downside-to-using-a-biometric-car-lock/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2005/03/31/the-downside-to-using-a-biometric-car-lock/</guid><description><![CDATA[I wonder... I assume your fingerprints are normally all over the door and so. So, it more or less compares to the carkey that has it's image spray painted over the whole car.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[ikkedus]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Dec 19th 2005 12:12AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on The downside to using a biometric car lock]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2005/03/31/the-downside-to-using-a-biometric-car-lock/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2005/03/31/the-downside-to-using-a-biometric-car-lock/</guid><description><![CDATA[If you want to read a fictional account of what happens when you use the more "secure" retina scan, read Dan Brown's "Angels and Demons..."]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Robin McClellan]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Dec 19th 2005 12:12AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on The downside to using a biometric car lock]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2005/03/31/the-downside-to-using-a-biometric-car-lock/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2005/03/31/the-downside-to-using-a-biometric-car-lock/</guid><description><![CDATA[Oww Fuck Shit.<br><br>The car already costs you an arm and a leg.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[elliothtz]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Dec 19th 2005 12:12AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on The downside to using a biometric car lock]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2005/03/31/the-downside-to-using-a-biometric-car-lock/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2005/03/31/the-downside-to-using-a-biometric-car-lock/</guid><description><![CDATA[to: #3<br><br> Or just see 'Demolition Man' and Mr. Snipes will show you the way...<br><br> to: #4<br><br> LOL! Very amusing pun.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[OddManOut]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Dec 19th 2005 12:12AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on The downside to using a biometric car lock]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2005/03/31/the-downside-to-using-a-biometric-car-lock/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2005/03/31/the-downside-to-using-a-biometric-car-lock/</guid><description><![CDATA[I used to work for a biometric security company. Its extremely unlikely, especially for newer readers since most require the thumb to be at ..ummm...body temperature.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Jeff]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Dec 19th 2005 12:12AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on The downside to using a biometric car lock]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2005/03/31/the-downside-to-using-a-biometric-car-lock/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2005/03/31/the-downside-to-using-a-biometric-car-lock/</guid><description><![CDATA[I was going to say the same thing as #5, but that's only true if the thief knows that, too.  I'd rather save my thumb than my car.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Craig]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Dec 19th 2005 12:12AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on The downside to using a biometric car lock]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2005/03/31/the-downside-to-using-a-biometric-car-lock/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2005/03/31/the-downside-to-using-a-biometric-car-lock/</guid><description><![CDATA[To #6: Nuke the finger for 20 seconds, it should warm up.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Ed_NYC]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Dec 19th 2005 12:12AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on The downside to using a biometric car lock]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2005/03/31/the-downside-to-using-a-biometric-car-lock/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2005/03/31/the-downside-to-using-a-biometric-car-lock/</guid><description><![CDATA[#6<br><br>maybe they keept the thumb... body temperature by putting the "finger" well... nevermind<br><br>disgusting<br>]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Alexandre Ludolf]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Dec 19th 2005 12:12AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on The downside to using a biometric car lock]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2005/03/31/the-downside-to-using-a-biometric-car-lock/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2005/03/31/the-downside-to-using-a-biometric-car-lock/</guid><description><![CDATA[This was truly a "well, duh" waiting to happen.  We Car Wars players have been doing this since the '80s.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Shig]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Dec 19th 2005 12:12AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on The downside to using a biometric car lock]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2005/03/31/the-downside-to-using-a-biometric-car-lock/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2005/03/31/the-downside-to-using-a-biometric-car-lock/</guid><description><![CDATA[owww. why shit always happens to new technology.. well its an accident... i hope he's fine now... not gonna happen always... well they'd use keys which have ic's like simcards  so that after that much security only keys are stolen not our fingers.. n we can finger the thieves later on.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Harris]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Dec 19th 2005 12:12AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on The downside to using a biometric car lock]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2005/03/31/the-downside-to-using-a-biometric-car-lock/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2005/03/31/the-downside-to-using-a-biometric-car-lock/</guid><description><![CDATA[i was thinkin about this today while reading my science papers *snap*<br>i was thinkin abt demolition man too<br>]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[semi]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Dec 19th 2005 12:12AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on The downside to using a biometric car lock]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2005/03/31/the-downside-to-using-a-biometric-car-lock/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2005/03/31/the-downside-to-using-a-biometric-car-lock/</guid><description><![CDATA[To #6 Jeff<br><br>Wouldn't holding the thumb in your hand for 1 min make it close to body temperature.<br><br><br>If they're planning to part it, why need to take thumb with them. I wonder how those thieves plan to sell the car, "Enjoy the car, here's the thumb."? <br><br><br>]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Brent]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Dec 19th 2005 12:12AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on The downside to using a biometric car lock]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2005/03/31/the-downside-to-using-a-biometric-car-lock/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2005/03/31/the-downside-to-using-a-biometric-car-lock/</guid><description><![CDATA[Perhaps some good instructions in the manual about reseting the fingerprint lock is in order.<br><br>Hey dude...Let me make it lock to YOUr fingerprint.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[KO]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Dec 19th 2005 12:12AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on The downside to using a biometric car lock]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2005/03/31/the-downside-to-using-a-biometric-car-lock/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2005/03/31/the-downside-to-using-a-biometric-car-lock/</guid><description><![CDATA[It'd be like a lucky rabbits foot. They should just attach the finger to a keychain. Good conversation starter...]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Awesom-o]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Dec 19th 2005 12:12AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on The downside to using a biometric car lock]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2005/03/31/the-downside-to-using-a-biometric-car-lock/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2005/03/31/the-downside-to-using-a-biometric-car-lock/</guid><description><![CDATA[Thanks #12: "Enjoy the car, here's the thumb."<br><br>I just cleaned spittle off this monitor and NOW it needs to be done again.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Spittle on My Monitor]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Dec 19th 2005 12:12AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on The downside to using a biometric car lock]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2005/03/31/the-downside-to-using-a-biometric-car-lock/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2005/03/31/the-downside-to-using-a-biometric-car-lock/</guid><description><![CDATA[And when the finger started to go rotten what did they do? Oh... wait for the cops to show up because it's a damn expensive car that has fingerprint technology which is also bound to have some sort of tracking device.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[James]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Dec 19th 2005 12:12AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on The downside to using a biometric car lock]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2005/03/31/the-downside-to-using-a-biometric-car-lock/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2005/03/31/the-downside-to-using-a-biometric-car-lock/</guid><description><![CDATA[Don't some more sophisticated fingerprint readers also check for actual blood flow/pulse in the finger? That would be a lot more difficult to fake in a severed digit than approximate body temperature.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Bryan Costin]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Dec 19th 2005 12:12AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on The downside to using a biometric car lock]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2005/03/31/the-downside-to-using-a-biometric-car-lock/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2005/03/31/the-downside-to-using-a-biometric-car-lock/</guid><description><![CDATA[#18, you're right, the newer fingerprint scanners are designed to get around this:<br><br>" reads signals that bounce off skin when fingers are placed on a surface embedded with electric conductors. It first applies "an AC voltage with a variable frequency to at least one electric conductor," Marksteiner writes. The system then records the frequency of electric resistance and conductivity, and the time intervals between each one. Those signals generate a pattern, which he describes as curved in shape....This characteristic curve shape can be faked or simulated only with difficulty when using an artificial finger," Marksteiner writes. "In the case of a cut-off finger, the curve shape changes rapidly as a result of the skin tissue dying off."<br><br>http://www.senseme.com/scripts/articles/articles11.htm<br><br>And to #4, #8 and #13--damn that was almost too funny...!]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Anarquista]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Dec 19th 2005 12:12AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on The downside to using a biometric car lock]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2005/03/31/the-downside-to-using-a-biometric-car-lock/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2005/03/31/the-downside-to-using-a-biometric-car-lock/</guid><description><![CDATA[To: #17 , #13<br><br> Most stolen cars (the majority ?) are chopped up and sold as parts.  I've read (so take the figures with a grain of salt) that a $25K to $30K car can be sold in parts for about $200K.  (so imagine what an even more expensive car could bring). So being able to start and drive the car may not be too important after the car is safely stashed where it can be dismantled.<br><br> Also to #13: HAHAHAHAHAHA!<br><br> As for re-heating the thumb, just dunk it in your chili...<br><br>]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[OddManOut]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Dec 19th 2005 12:12AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on The downside to using a biometric car lock]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2005/03/31/the-downside-to-using-a-biometric-car-lock/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2005/03/31/the-downside-to-using-a-biometric-car-lock/</guid><description><![CDATA[Oops! Didn't read your post correctly #13. You aparently considered the parting option. Apologies...<br><br>  Maybe they just didn't want to take the owner (or at least, most of him) with them when they drove the car to their chop shop.<br><br>]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[OddManOut]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Dec 19th 2005 12:12AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on The downside to using a biometric car lock]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2005/03/31/the-downside-to-using-a-biometric-car-lock/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2005/03/31/the-downside-to-using-a-biometric-car-lock/</guid><description><![CDATA[" I've read (so take the figures with a grain of salt) that a $25K to $30K car can be sold in parts for about $200K."<br><br>That sounds like a misquote or quite a hyperbole. If this were the case, I could make a decent living by buying cars legitimately and selling them as parts... What I've heard is that if one were to build a car from spare parts, it'll cost a lot more than just buying the whole car, which sounds true but it's not necessarily reciprocal.<br><br>Anyway, thieves sell their loot as spare parts because it's easier and safer than trying to sell the whole cars outright. Most of the parts don't have recorded serial numbers that can be tracked, and the transactions are small enough that nobody bothers to check.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[I'm in the wrong business]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Dec 19th 2005 12:12AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on The downside to using a biometric car lock]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2005/03/31/the-downside-to-using-a-biometric-car-lock/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2005/03/31/the-downside-to-using-a-biometric-car-lock/</guid><description><![CDATA[<br> Like I said, take it with a grain of salt.  The article I read (or was it something I saw/heard on 60 minutes a couple years ago?) may have been refering to a specific car or something...I honestly don't remember (or I could be remembering it incorrectly)...<br><br>]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[OddManOut]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Dec 19th 2005 12:12AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on The downside to using a biometric car lock]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2005/03/31/the-downside-to-using-a-biometric-car-lock/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2005/03/31/the-downside-to-using-a-biometric-car-lock/</guid><description><![CDATA[I'm from Malaysia and I'm not suprised this happened. This guy would have been better off with a car GPS/GSM tracking system.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[BenWang]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Dec 19th 2005 12:12AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on The downside to using a biometric car lock]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2005/03/31/the-downside-to-using-a-biometric-car-lock/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2005/03/31/the-downside-to-using-a-biometric-car-lock/</guid><description><![CDATA[a malaysian dj joked... "brings new meaning to thumbdrive"]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[ow man!]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Dec 19th 2005 12:12AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on The downside to using a biometric car lock]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2005/03/31/the-downside-to-using-a-biometric-car-lock/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2005/03/31/the-downside-to-using-a-biometric-car-lock/</guid><description><![CDATA[Malaysia boleh!]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Ah Beng]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Dec 19th 2005 12:12AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on The downside to using a biometric car lock]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2005/03/31/the-downside-to-using-a-biometric-car-lock/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2005/03/31/the-downside-to-using-a-biometric-car-lock/</guid><description><![CDATA[#26 Just used a patriotic statement as sarcasm. FYI, we do it quite frequently.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[BenWang]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Dec 19th 2005 12:12AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on The downside to using a biometric car lock]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2005/03/31/the-downside-to-using-a-biometric-car-lock/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2005/03/31/the-downside-to-using-a-biometric-car-lock/</guid><description><![CDATA[This is exactly what I've got against biometrics.<br><br>Even IF the device is smart enough to check for a pulse, then the criminal is only going to find out AFTER they remove the body part.<br><br>And if they need you alive, you run the risk of being kidnapped for a very long time.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[WoollyMittens]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Dec 19th 2005 12:12AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on The downside to using a biometric car lock]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2005/03/31/the-downside-to-using-a-biometric-car-lock/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2005/03/31/the-downside-to-using-a-biometric-car-lock/</guid><description><![CDATA[I have to use my finger to get the wife going too....]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Gary Lawrence]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Dec 19th 2005 12:12AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on The downside to using a biometric car lock]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2005/03/31/the-downside-to-using-a-biometric-car-lock/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2005/03/31/the-downside-to-using-a-biometric-car-lock/</guid><description><![CDATA[Even without biometric locks on my car, I still cary a can of mace and a knife that's just barely legal.  I don't make it obvious that I carry either one, and I don't joke about using them.  But put me in a situation where I think I need to defend myself and It's gonna really sting.  Of course I'll save the knife for if the mace doesn't work but I'm willing to use both.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Mark H]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Dec 19th 2005 12:12AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on The downside to using a biometric car lock]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2005/03/31/the-downside-to-using-a-biometric-car-lock/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2005/03/31/the-downside-to-using-a-biometric-car-lock/</guid><description><![CDATA[30. Posted Apr 1, 2005, 2:57 AM ET by Mark H <br>Even without biometric locks on my car, I still cary a can of mace and a knife that's just barely legal. I don't make it obvious that I carry either one, and I don't joke about using them. But put me in a situation where I think I need to defend myself and It's gonna really sting. Of course I'll save the knife for if the mace doesn't work but I'm willing to use both.<br><br>Mark I don't know where you call home but If you ever decide to visit Los Angeles make sure you don't take the wrong Fwy exit and end up in the wrong part of town if you know what I mean because I can assure you that  your little can of mace and your "knife that's just barely legal" won't save your ass from being jacked @ gun point.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[CiscoKid]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Dec 19th 2005 12:12AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on The downside to using a biometric car lock]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2005/03/31/the-downside-to-using-a-biometric-car-lock/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2005/03/31/the-downside-to-using-a-biometric-car-lock/</guid><description><![CDATA[<br> " I still cary a can of mace and a knife that's just barely legal."<br><br> I too have knife that I keep in the car.  It's got sheepsfoot blade in case I ever need to cut the seatbelt.  I've also got an assisted opening drop point that goes everywhere I do for general utilitarian purposes (yes...even the airport...but the blade gets 'checked'...).  I don't think I'd want to try to defend myself from the seat of my car with either knife (as mentioned, guns are probably the most common accessory for car jackings and...you know...'never bring a knife to a gun fight' - Unless you've got a gun as well)...nor would I want to spray mace in an enclosed environment such as, again, my car.<br><br> Not a criticism...just some things to think about...<br><br>  I drive such cheap cars I doubt anyone would want to steal them anyway, but if I had the bling for a biometricly secured vehicle and I thought I needed some EXTRA protection, I'd go for the flamethrower system.<br><br> 'Course, that wouldn't stop anyone from hitting me on the way TO my car, taking keys, cards, limbs, what have you and then driveing away completely oblivious to the flamethrowers presence...and it would be mighty embarassing to trigger that thing by accident at a drive-through window, or when pulled over for a traffic violation...<br><br><br> I'll jump on the pun bandwagon:<br><br> These guys sure know how to 'thumb' a ride...]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[OddManOut]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Dec 19th 2005 12:12AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on The downside to using a biometric car lock]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2005/03/31/the-downside-to-using-a-biometric-car-lock/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2005/03/31/the-downside-to-using-a-biometric-car-lock/</guid><description><![CDATA[How's about we use our pinkies insteadof our thumbs?  I want my thumb for sure, I can afford to lose two pinkies....  Useless pinky.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[carl]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Dec 19th 2005 12:12AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on The downside to using a biometric car lock]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2005/03/31/the-downside-to-using-a-biometric-car-lock/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2005/03/31/the-downside-to-using-a-biometric-car-lock/</guid><description><![CDATA[I wonder what hurt him the most, to loose his thumb or to loose his car :P<br>Sorry for the sarcasm ;)]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Will]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Dec 19th 2005 12:12AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on The downside to using a biometric car lock]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2005/03/31/the-downside-to-using-a-biometric-car-lock/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2005/03/31/the-downside-to-using-a-biometric-car-lock/</guid><description><![CDATA[Biometrics, like locks, are mostly a deterent.  If there are easier targets out there, most theives would go for them.  There are extreme cases when they dont go the easy route but that just happens like anything else.  Does it mean you dont TRY to deter theft?  Hell no.  <br><br>Realistically, he's lucky they just took a thumb.  People get killed for much less.  <br><br>]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Jo]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Dec 19th 2005 12:12AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on The downside to using a biometric car lock]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2005/03/31/the-downside-to-using-a-biometric-car-lock/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2005/03/31/the-downside-to-using-a-biometric-car-lock/</guid><description><![CDATA[Brings a whole new meaning to getting a spare key cut...]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[davethetemp]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Dec 19th 2005 12:12AM</pubDate></item></channel></rss>
