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<generator>Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/</generator><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Researchers want gesture-controlled gadgets]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2005/04/04/researchers-want-gesture-controlled-gadgets/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2005/04/04/researchers-want-gesture-controlled-gadgets/</guid><description><![CDATA[Well, in answer to your question, I'm reminded of Spiderman.  See, he has the webshooters set up so that the trigger is in the palm of his hand, but you'll notice that he doesn't inadvertantly fire webs whenever he grabs something or makes a fist.  Why?  Because its set only to fire if he does a quick tap before squeezing the trigger.  Similarly, a gesture system could have a "begin gesture" command, much like some voice control systems do.  You could handle this by, say, having "gesture" button that you hold down while doing a gesture, or that you tap before starting a gesture.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[mattharvest]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Dec 19th 2005 12:12AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Researchers want gesture-controlled gadgets]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2005/04/04/researchers-want-gesture-controlled-gadgets/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2005/04/04/researchers-want-gesture-controlled-gadgets/</guid><description><![CDATA[i second the ideas in matt's post.<br><br>i for one am sick of typing and pressing buttons.  at least do something with a jacket and an iPod.  <br><br>also, gestures are silent.  voice commands are not, and will annoy people in public like cellphones do.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Bryan B.]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Dec 19th 2005 12:12AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Researchers want gesture-controlled gadgets]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2005/04/04/researchers-want-gesture-controlled-gadgets/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2005/04/04/researchers-want-gesture-controlled-gadgets/</guid><description><![CDATA[A friend and I were, just last month, discussing the expansion of gestures into 3d space. We laughingly imagined iPod-laden hipsters switching artists by spelling out "Decemberists" on the subway, arms flailing and smacking strangers. The volume would be adjusted via an Arsenio-style arm-pump.<br><br>THE FUTURE IS NOW, AND IT WILL LOOK FUNNY]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Doug Nelson]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Dec 19th 2005 12:12AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Researchers want gesture-controlled gadgets]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2005/04/04/researchers-want-gesture-controlled-gadgets/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2005/04/04/researchers-want-gesture-controlled-gadgets/</guid><description><![CDATA[In the picture above the gesture of " Frontin' " is used to automaticly load your playlist of Eminem/Bubba Sparks music.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[lupinstel]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Dec 19th 2005 12:12AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Researchers want gesture-controlled gadgets]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2005/04/04/researchers-want-gesture-controlled-gadgets/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2005/04/04/researchers-want-gesture-controlled-gadgets/</guid><description><![CDATA[Dude, this is a super idea! Who cares if the system misinterprets now and again. As long as no one dies as a result if it is a tiny bit buggy. I would love to skip next if I tap my finger twice or control some function by putting my thumb and index finger toghether, I just hope there will be a solution that works on many systems, like a pc, tv and ipod for instance.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Morten Skogly]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Dec 19th 2005 12:12AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Researchers want gesture-controlled gadgets]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2005/04/04/researchers-want-gesture-controlled-gadgets/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2005/04/04/researchers-want-gesture-controlled-gadgets/</guid><description><![CDATA[Samsung has a phone called SCH-S230 (Only in South Korea) that uses gestures to navigate the phone menus. <br><br>]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[ConceptVBS]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Dec 19th 2005 12:12AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Researchers want gesture-controlled gadgets]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2005/04/04/researchers-want-gesture-controlled-gadgets/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2005/04/04/researchers-want-gesture-controlled-gadgets/</guid><description><![CDATA[Samsung has a phone called SCH-S230 (Only in South Korea) that uses gestures to navigate the phone menus. <br><br>]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[ConceptVBS]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Dec 19th 2005 12:12AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Researchers want gesture-controlled gadgets]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2005/04/04/researchers-want-gesture-controlled-gadgets/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2005/04/04/researchers-want-gesture-controlled-gadgets/</guid><description><![CDATA[As an older future-friendly guy, to me the article shows the conservative instincts of the writer. Conservatives of any generation tend to resist any technology or ideas that are introduced after they are teenagers. In my age group these are the people who won't learn e-mail and hate Hip Hop. In this case, using your imagination instead of just reacting (reationary=conservative) you could imagine several ways that gesture misinterpretation could be avoided. Requiring a "key" gesture like  in post #1, like two eyeblinks and a nod to start an interaction, for example. Allowing customization so the headbangers can use something besides a nod. Don't close your mind now or the future will destroy you.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[O Buck]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Dec 19th 2005 12:12AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Researchers want gesture-controlled gadgets]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2005/04/04/researchers-want-gesture-controlled-gadgets/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2005/04/04/researchers-want-gesture-controlled-gadgets/</guid><description><![CDATA[This isn't about being conservative, it's about not automatically embracing something new and different simply because it's new and different. The burden is on the researchers here to demonstrate that there is a compelling reason to use a gesture-based system, it's not on me to automatically embrace it.<br><br>I also think that anyone who has been reading Engadget for the past 13 months will see that I have NO problem embracing new technologies--in fact, this entire site is devoted to that very topic. It's far easier to tag someone as "reactionary" or "conservative" than to engage them in a legitimate debate about the merits of a new technology.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Peter Rojas]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Dec 19th 2005 12:12AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Researchers want gesture-controlled gadgets]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2005/04/04/researchers-want-gesture-controlled-gadgets/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2005/04/04/researchers-want-gesture-controlled-gadgets/</guid><description><![CDATA[I;ve been to a couple of talks on this it's actually quite cool.<br><br>heres a link to the actual project page.<br><br>http://www.dcs.gla.ac.uk/~jhw/audioclouds/]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Ohmz]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Dec 19th 2005 12:12AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Researchers want gesture-controlled gadgets]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2005/04/04/researchers-want-gesture-controlled-gadgets/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2005/04/04/researchers-want-gesture-controlled-gadgets/</guid><description><![CDATA[You know the Japanese has a lot of these already.  <br>1) We have GBA games with a gyroscope.<br>2) We have the Onimusha sword controller for the PS2...<br><br>Who knows, maybe the revolution is gensture controlled.  <br>With regards to mobile gaming, I think the DS has an edge in these innovative things (because of all the input mehtods) than the PSP.  <br>]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[jayson]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Dec 19th 2005 12:12AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Researchers want gesture-controlled gadgets]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2005/04/04/researchers-want-gesture-controlled-gadgets/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2005/04/04/researchers-want-gesture-controlled-gadgets/</guid><description><![CDATA[Am I the only person who finds gestures to be counter-intuitive? I think the only reason geeks like them is that they steepen the learning curve for a new interface.<br><br>Traditional button-style interfaces often have some kind of symbol that shows what a button does -- for example, in audio players --, whereas gesture-style interfaces require memorisation of all the gestures. If I have a button- or menu-based interface with a few commonly-used features but a lot of ones I use rarely, there's no problem, because I can search for the labelled button or the menu item I need as it comes up. Transfer that to a gesture-based interface, and now I have to pull out a gesture manual or something to get information that ought to be built into the interface. The other option is memorizing all the gestures I don't need regularly just in case I do need them some day.<br><br>The dumbest part of this, though, is the fact that it uses the whole body. A smaller gesture interface, something akin to a touchpad or stylus display like the Nintendo DS actually makes a lot of sense to me. It seems like it would be easier to use and far more context-friendly than a whole-body gesture interface. And the fact remains that a whole body gesture system would tend to make one look really, really stupid.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[furtim]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Dec 19th 2005 12:12AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Researchers want gesture-controlled gadgets]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2005/04/04/researchers-want-gesture-controlled-gadgets/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2005/04/04/researchers-want-gesture-controlled-gadgets/</guid><description><![CDATA[Let me preface my comments with this: I, like assumingly all of you here, am very interested in gadgetry and other emerging technologies.  When I saw the article I became very excited because I had not seen any reporting on this area of research.  I am new to engadget.com and found myself flipping through the archives where I discovered this gem.<br>     I saw Minority Report in theaters and besides almost shitting my pants (I get scared easily), I was amazed with the future glove/gesture interface the dectective used to move around through the precrime videos.  I thought "Well shit! This is pretty phenomenal stuff and has the power to revolutionize many things we do."<br>     I realize the article was not discussing a super-advanced prototype technology identical to the one contained within the duration of Minority Report.  The article was commenting on an ugly duckling: young, uncordinated, and largely a burden to its caretaker.  Does it contain the potential to mature into a breath-taking swan? <br>     Peter seemed, to me, to be doing what bloggers to best; regurgitating someone else's reporting.  Still, it is excellent that he posted this article starting a healthy discourse into the nature of hype and the praticality and usefulness of this mostly-still-theoretical technology.<br>     There is wisdom in what O Buck has to say though.  I am currently reading a book titled BLINK: THE POWER OF THINKING WITHOUT THINKING by Malcolm Gladwell who writes for the WASHINGTON POST.  One of the lessons from Blink is that an incredibly small "slice" of one's life can reveal very meaningful and often reliable insight into that particular person's life.  Peter, in your original post you have provided people with an excellent "slice" into your philosphy (or possibly you were desperate to comment and pulled a 'devil's advocate'.)<br>     Unlike O Buck and despite my slowly changing beliefs as a result of reading Blink, I refuse to make a snap judgement about you and label you conservative or reactionary.  Especially since both of those have such strong political conotations.  It simply does not matter if you were reactionary or intellectually skeptical because you certainly were not visionary.  Now do not confuse visionary for hype-monger.  Let me define myself so as not to leave any ambiguity as to my postion on this issue.  I define hype as unfounded, unsupported, or overly exaggerated excitement often created by deliberate lies, not-so-deliberate bull shit, and blind optimism. A hype-monger being one who perpetuates these falsehoods, exagerations, and especially minimized challeges that lie ahead.  While a visionary is one who actively challenges his beliefs and looks not toward we are currently achieving but what we could potentially achieve.<br>     "Maybe we’re missing some critical part of what they’re trying to get at (the BBC article isn’t exactly heavy on the details), and we’re all for “innovation,” but c’mon dude, is pressing a button on a remote really killing you?" (Rojas)<br>     An example of my point is the following.  In the 1950's calculators did not exist at a pocket level, and it was still challenging to envision a world with small, portable, cheaply manufactured calculators capable of complex mathematical operations.  A lay person did not know or care about this possible future.  A visionary found it empowering and thought creatively about what new possibilities this would enable.  A hype-monger boldly proclaimed the devices would  certainly enable a man to land on Mars and math students would gain the new skill of simulating nuclear explosions (neither of which have yet come to pass as a result of the ubiquous, pocket calculator.)  I fear, someone like you might have said "Maybe we’re missing some critical part of what the MIT boys're trying to get at (the BBC article isn’t exactly heavy on the details), and we’re all for 'innovation,' but c’mon dude, is addition, subtraction, multiplication, and division really killing you?"<br>     "...It's about not automatically embracing something new and different simply because it's new and different."  Certainly I agree with that.  Yet Peter, you ignored that reality that this isn't simply new and different.  This is about enhancing human-computing interfacing which holds enormous potential to change computing in general. "'The idea behind the whole thing is to look at new ways to present information,' Professor Stephen Brewster told the BBC News website."  This research is not an elborate and expensive plan to develop the next gimmick like an iPodPhoto rather it is on par with the mouse or the scroll wheel or the touch-tone phone because a little interface change can go along way.  <br>      This technology is about advancing to the next song on an iPod, about as much as pocket calculators were about adding and subtracting.  Sure they started off adding and subtracting, but the developers and the visionaries certainly had not intensions of ending there.<br>     Also, when I read furtim's comment I couldn't disagree more. "Am I the only person who finds gestures to be counter-intuitive? I think the only reason geeks like them is that they steepen the learning curve for a new interface."  I am sure similar disenting comments were made of the mouse and I am hoping historical context reveals that a few steps back can be many steps forward.  In other words, the time lost on our current primitive interfaces could be spent towards learning new more productive ones.<br>     Finally, please write back your responses whether they be flaming with anger or gushing with argreement.  Keep me posted because I'm very excited to know this technology is being researched seriously.  It holds the potential to do things not possible without it. Such as the following WIRED magazine link<br><br>http://wired-vig.wired.com/news/digiwood/0,1412,66722,00.html<br>     <br>PS. Rojas, don't close your mind now! [or the future will destroy you.] <= I don't agree with that I know plenty of closed-minded folks who have yet to be destroyed by the future (ie George Bush!)]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Theodore Wheeland]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Dec 19th 2005 12:12AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Researchers want gesture-controlled gadgets]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2005/04/04/researchers-want-gesture-controlled-gadgets/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2005/04/04/researchers-want-gesture-controlled-gadgets/</guid><description><![CDATA[I love how assholes like theodore and o buck love to think they're so fucking progressive because they "embrace the future" while the rest of us luddites just want a cellphone that works. hey dudes, fuck off!]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[mike s.]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Dec 19th 2005 12:12AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Researchers want gesture-controlled gadgets]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2005/04/04/researchers-want-gesture-controlled-gadgets/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2005/04/04/researchers-want-gesture-controlled-gadgets/</guid><description><![CDATA[Fair enough, that seems like a very reasonable assement of the situation.  We'll end on that.  Creating things that actually work is certainly a constant problem for techies.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Theodore Wheeland]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Dec 19th 2005 12:12AM</pubDate></item></channel></rss>
