http://www.engadget.com/2005/05/03/sony-psp-vs-nintendo-ds-hacks-contest-time-to-vote/ Engadget Comments for Sony PSP vs. Nintendo DS Hacks contest: Time to vote! http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2005/05/03/sony-psp-vs-nintendo-ds-hacks-contest-time-to-vote/http://www.engadget.com/2005/05/03/sony-psp-vs-nintendo-ds-hacks-contest-time-to-vote/
I'll shut up now, but this sounds like a case of misnomenclature...]]>Dec 19th 2005 1:20AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/05/03/sony-psp-vs-nintendo-ds-hacks-contest-time-to-vote/http://www.engadget.com/2005/05/03/sony-psp-vs-nintendo-ds-hacks-contest-time-to-vote/Dec 19th 2005 1:20AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/05/03/sony-psp-vs-nintendo-ds-hacks-contest-time-to-vote/http://www.engadget.com/2005/05/03/sony-psp-vs-nintendo-ds-hacks-contest-time-to-vote/
Option 5: Who Cares]]>Dec 19th 2005 1:20AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/05/03/sony-psp-vs-nintendo-ds-hacks-contest-time-to-vote/http://www.engadget.com/2005/05/03/sony-psp-vs-nintendo-ds-hacks-contest-time-to-vote/Dec 19th 2005 1:20AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/05/03/sony-psp-vs-nintendo-ds-hacks-contest-time-to-vote/http://www.engadget.com/2005/05/03/sony-psp-vs-nintendo-ds-hacks-contest-time-to-vote/Dec 19th 2005 1:20AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/05/03/sony-psp-vs-nintendo-ds-hacks-contest-time-to-vote/http://www.engadget.com/2005/05/03/sony-psp-vs-nintendo-ds-hacks-contest-time-to-vote/Somtimes it takes one squirrel to figure out how to crack the nut so the others don't starve.. Just so happens that the other squirrels weren't satisfied. The original should get the notariety and props.]]>Dec 19th 2005 1:20AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/05/03/sony-psp-vs-nintendo-ds-hacks-contest-time-to-vote/http://www.engadget.com/2005/05/03/sony-psp-vs-nintendo-ds-hacks-contest-time-to-vote/
I think you did miss something--namely that no one submitted any DS hacks. Sorry!

Best,
Ryan]]>Dec 19th 2005 1:20AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/05/03/sony-psp-vs-nintendo-ds-hacks-contest-time-to-vote/http://www.engadget.com/2005/05/03/sony-psp-vs-nintendo-ds-hacks-contest-time-to-vote/
long live the portables...give it 6 months to a year we'll have real hacks on both platforms and we should do another contest.

I have a hunch psp will win this one though.]]>Dec 19th 2005 1:20AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/05/03/sony-psp-vs-nintendo-ds-hacks-contest-time-to-vote/http://www.engadget.com/2005/05/03/sony-psp-vs-nintendo-ds-hacks-contest-time-to-vote/Dec 19th 2005 1:20AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/05/03/sony-psp-vs-nintendo-ds-hacks-contest-time-to-vote/http://www.engadget.com/2005/05/03/sony-psp-vs-nintendo-ds-hacks-contest-time-to-vote/
Aiming your PSP at a webpage ain't even in the same ballpark.]]>Dec 19th 2005 1:20AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/05/03/sony-psp-vs-nintendo-ds-hacks-contest-time-to-vote/http://www.engadget.com/2005/05/03/sony-psp-vs-nintendo-ds-hacks-contest-time-to-vote/Dec 19th 2005 1:20AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/05/03/sony-psp-vs-nintendo-ds-hacks-contest-time-to-vote/http://www.engadget.com/2005/05/03/sony-psp-vs-nintendo-ds-hacks-contest-time-to-vote/Dec 19th 2005 1:20AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/05/03/sony-psp-vs-nintendo-ds-hacks-contest-time-to-vote/http://www.engadget.com/2005/05/03/sony-psp-vs-nintendo-ds-hacks-contest-time-to-vote/_<]]>Dec 19th 2005 1:20AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/05/03/sony-psp-vs-nintendo-ds-hacks-contest-time-to-vote/http://www.engadget.com/2005/05/03/sony-psp-vs-nintendo-ds-hacks-contest-time-to-vote/Dec 19th 2005 1:20AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/05/03/sony-psp-vs-nintendo-ds-hacks-contest-time-to-vote/http://www.engadget.com/2005/05/03/sony-psp-vs-nintendo-ds-hacks-contest-time-to-vote/
Whoa..I didn't know there were DS fans!

=P]]>Dec 19th 2005 1:20AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/05/03/sony-psp-vs-nintendo-ds-hacks-contest-time-to-vote/http://www.engadget.com/2005/05/03/sony-psp-vs-nintendo-ds-hacks-contest-time-to-vote/Dec 19th 2005 1:20AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/05/03/sony-psp-vs-nintendo-ds-hacks-contest-time-to-vote/http://www.engadget.com/2005/05/03/sony-psp-vs-nintendo-ds-hacks-contest-time-to-vote/Dec 19th 2005 1:20AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/05/03/sony-psp-vs-nintendo-ds-hacks-contest-time-to-vote/http://www.engadget.com/2005/05/03/sony-psp-vs-nintendo-ds-hacks-contest-time-to-vote/
I'm sorry, but that's not an excuse. This is a gaming news site. It's unfortunate that DS owners didn't submit, but it's beyond ridiculous that the writers for this site did no investigation or editorial input on their own. That's just bad journalism.]]>Dec 19th 2005 1:20AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/05/03/sony-psp-vs-nintendo-ds-hacks-contest-time-to-vote/http://www.engadget.com/2005/05/03/sony-psp-vs-nintendo-ds-hacks-contest-time-to-vote/Dec 19th 2005 1:20AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/05/03/sony-psp-vs-nintendo-ds-hacks-contest-time-to-vote/http://www.engadget.com/2005/05/03/sony-psp-vs-nintendo-ds-hacks-contest-time-to-vote/
While I like the web-portal walkthrough, it doesn't seem quite as revolutionary as the PSPTetris to me. The web-portal will cease to be useful once they release a full-fledged browser. But the PSPTetris is a proof-of-concept for creating your own apps to run on the PSP's java VM. The ability to run third-party code on the PSP will completely change how the device is used.

Nareau]]>Dec 19th 2005 1:20AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/05/03/sony-psp-vs-nintendo-ds-hacks-contest-time-to-vote/http://www.engadget.com/2005/05/03/sony-psp-vs-nintendo-ds-hacks-contest-time-to-vote/
Nareau]]>Dec 19th 2005 1:20AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/05/03/sony-psp-vs-nintendo-ds-hacks-contest-time-to-vote/http://www.engadget.com/2005/05/03/sony-psp-vs-nintendo-ds-hacks-contest-time-to-vote/Anyway, yeah.. Uh, theres not much to choose from but I guess I'll vote for the one I liked the most from what's listed above.]]>Dec 19th 2005 1:20AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/05/03/sony-psp-vs-nintendo-ds-hacks-contest-time-to-vote/http://www.engadget.com/2005/05/03/sony-psp-vs-nintendo-ds-hacks-contest-time-to-vote/http://ds.gcdev.com/dsfirmware/

Or DS wireless multiboot of homebrew with no signature required: http://cubehacker.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=326
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I don't know if I'd call any entry to this contest a "PSP hack." Everything was done outside of the PSP and the PSP simply accessed it. No coding, no tinkering with hardware, nothing.

There are no DS hacks submitted simply because the DS hack community is too busy actually getting things done rather than participating in silly flame-war inspiring contests.

I won't bother posting links. If you know what I'm talking about, you understand. If you don't, you probably weren't meant to.]]>Dec 19th 2005 1:20AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/05/03/sony-psp-vs-nintendo-ds-hacks-contest-time-to-vote/http://www.engadget.com/2005/05/03/sony-psp-vs-nintendo-ds-hacks-contest-time-to-vote/http://users.aol.com/toy3d/
and was not even a finalist. The others were all simply using the PSP to browse the web, and one "how-to" is simply a reprint of older material!
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I wonder why something like #30 didn't make it to the list. It's not PSP specific per se, but it works, and it's useful! We don't need 4 "hacks" that are basically ways of accesing the web via the PSP.]]>Dec 19th 2005 1:20AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/05/03/sony-psp-vs-nintendo-ds-hacks-contest-time-to-vote/http://www.engadget.com/2005/05/03/sony-psp-vs-nintendo-ds-hacks-contest-time-to-vote/
1) Passthrough devices including the ultra small and efficient passme

2) Wifi based passthrough/code downloading

3) Reverse engineering the DS firmware to allow unsigned code to run

4) Very fast development of some pretty neat DS homebrew

If anyone has actually made a hack on the PSP, it's the fellow who figured out how to run unsigned ELF binaries on 1.0JP firmware PSP's.. however he is an actual psp game developer so he had access to the hardware documentation and software libraries necessary to actually generate working code. It will be a while before anyone really figures out enough about the PSP's hardware and memory architecture to actually 'homebrew' anything worthwhile and probably even longer before they find out enough to make a reasonable effort to attack a hole in the 1.5 firmware (for which the original hack does not work)

I hope you enjoy giving out prizes to a l33t javascript hax0r. Not to discount that some of the little psp web browser tricks are very cool and/or worthwhile, but just keep in mind that the DS people probably didn't enter the contest because they probably didn't care.]]>Dec 19th 2005 1:20AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/05/03/sony-psp-vs-nintendo-ds-hacks-contest-time-to-vote/http://www.engadget.com/2005/05/03/sony-psp-vs-nintendo-ds-hacks-contest-time-to-vote/Dec 19th 2005 1:20AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/05/03/sony-psp-vs-nintendo-ds-hacks-contest-time-to-vote/http://www.engadget.com/2005/05/03/sony-psp-vs-nintendo-ds-hacks-contest-time-to-vote/
I can't bring myself to vote for any of these "hacks" though...]]>Dec 19th 2005 1:20AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/05/03/sony-psp-vs-nintendo-ds-hacks-contest-time-to-vote/http://www.engadget.com/2005/05/03/sony-psp-vs-nintendo-ds-hacks-contest-time-to-vote/Dec 19th 2005 1:20AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/05/03/sony-psp-vs-nintendo-ds-hacks-contest-time-to-vote/http://www.engadget.com/2005/05/03/sony-psp-vs-nintendo-ds-hacks-contest-time-to-vote/
The ONLY hack on that list is #4. Everything else is just websites viewable on the PSP. Hey, if you go to Google.com on your PSP, you'll see the Google Hack!!!!

And even THAT isn't a PSP hack, but a WhipeOut Pure hack, since you specifically need that game, and the hack is getting that particular game's web browser to view other webpages.

So, technically, NONE of these are PSP HACKS. Seriously.

This is whole contest is a joke, isn't it.]]>Dec 19th 2005 1:20AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/05/03/sony-psp-vs-nintendo-ds-hacks-contest-time-to-vote/http://www.engadget.com/2005/05/03/sony-psp-vs-nintendo-ds-hacks-contest-time-to-vote/
So far, not only has the DS community managed to get homebrew applications that use the full extent of DS hardware running from the GBA/Slot 2, but they've also managed to get it working through a WiFi means, and even got a firmware upgrade to eliminate the need for any sort of PassMe/WifiMe.

The PSP hacks listed aren't even applications, but JavaScript run webpages. The DS already has several homebrew applications that can run on the DS as REAL PROGRAMS, such as the TI-85 emulator (with dual screen display and touch screen control) and a REAL Tetris program (not any JavaScript crap). Not to mention the DS Linux community is getting revved up and motivated.

It appears to me that this contest wasn't well thought out. By requiring submissions, the editors have shown a lack of desire to find the true hacks and simply rely on other people doing the work for them. In doing so, they have failed to give any representation of what the DS hacking community is actually achieving. And there being a pathetic list of half-assed PSP hacks, gives the impression that the only thing the PSP hacking community is doing is making JavaScript web pages and trying to pass that off as something unique and special, deserving of a prize.

Not to say the PSP isn't capable, but it seems the PSP hacking community has learned far less about the hardware they're using than the DS community has. Time may change this, but that just means this "contest" was severely premature.]]>Dec 19th 2005 1:20AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/05/03/sony-psp-vs-nintendo-ds-hacks-contest-time-to-vote/http://www.engadget.com/2005/05/03/sony-psp-vs-nintendo-ds-hacks-contest-time-to-vote/]]>Dec 19th 2005 1:20AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/05/03/sony-psp-vs-nintendo-ds-hacks-contest-time-to-vote/http://www.engadget.com/2005/05/03/sony-psp-vs-nintendo-ds-hacks-contest-time-to-vote/
Ditto]]>Dec 19th 2005 1:20AM