http://www.engadget.com/2005/05/12/sony-playstation-3-for-2005/ Engadget Comments for Sony PlayStation 3 for 2005? http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2005/05/12/sony-playstation-3-for-2005/http://www.engadget.com/2005/05/12/sony-playstation-3-for-2005/Dec 19th 2005 12:53AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/05/12/sony-playstation-3-for-2005/http://www.engadget.com/2005/05/12/sony-playstation-3-for-2005/Dec 19th 2005 12:53AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/05/12/sony-playstation-3-for-2005/http://www.engadget.com/2005/05/12/sony-playstation-3-for-2005/Dec 19th 2005 12:53AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/05/12/sony-playstation-3-for-2005/http://www.engadget.com/2005/05/12/sony-playstation-3-for-2005/Here is the PS3, please wait +6months for a game]]>Dec 19th 2005 12:53AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/05/12/sony-playstation-3-for-2005/http://www.engadget.com/2005/05/12/sony-playstation-3-for-2005/Dec 19th 2005 12:53AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/05/12/sony-playstation-3-for-2005/http://www.engadget.com/2005/05/12/sony-playstation-3-for-2005/
I'm just trying to figure out if there is any point in me waiting till the PS3 comes out to get a console.]]>Dec 19th 2005 12:53AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/05/12/sony-playstation-3-for-2005/http://www.engadget.com/2005/05/12/sony-playstation-3-for-2005/Dec 19th 2005 12:53AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/05/12/sony-playstation-3-for-2005/http://www.engadget.com/2005/05/12/sony-playstation-3-for-2005/Dec 19th 2005 12:53AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/05/12/sony-playstation-3-for-2005/http://www.engadget.com/2005/05/12/sony-playstation-3-for-2005/
The Playstation group (SCE) is one divsion that's actually profitable within Sony (except for the PSP). Sony also has a significant chunk of debt. They literally can't afford it. Coming out early only plays to Microsoft's hands since the PS3 will have to be weaker to make a Christmas 2005 launch.]]>Dec 19th 2005 12:53AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/05/12/sony-playstation-3-for-2005/http://www.engadget.com/2005/05/12/sony-playstation-3-for-2005/
I think if they planned a mid-2006 release before, they should stick to it. The only thing they can do is push it even further into 2006, otherwise it is just going to be a rushed product.]]>Dec 19th 2005 12:53AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/05/12/sony-playstation-3-for-2005/http://www.engadget.com/2005/05/12/sony-playstation-3-for-2005/Dec 19th 2005 12:53AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/05/12/sony-playstation-3-for-2005/http://www.engadget.com/2005/05/12/sony-playstation-3-for-2005/
Way to fuck stuff up by rushing it to market Sony.]]>Dec 19th 2005 12:53AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/05/12/sony-playstation-3-for-2005/http://www.engadget.com/2005/05/12/sony-playstation-3-for-2005/
Anyways as for PS3...i was looking forward to maybe getting one...but if they rush for a 2005 release then i will wait on buying one. They cant afford to rush this system. They will also either need to charge a arm and a leg or swallow the costs of having expensive hardware like sega did...only thing was that sega had 1st party games to support its loss (until people pirated the games which killed them... but thats another story)

Anyways my point is Sony needs to be careful. they are risking there whole company. If the PSP and Ps3 dont do amazing numbers there is a chance that Sony may die off. they dont have the money. Sony needs to stop making mistakes. I love the Ps2 but they just need to rethink what there doing.]]>Dec 19th 2005 12:53AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/05/12/sony-playstation-3-for-2005/http://www.engadget.com/2005/05/12/sony-playstation-3-for-2005/Dec 19th 2005 12:53AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/05/12/sony-playstation-3-for-2005/http://www.engadget.com/2005/05/12/sony-playstation-3-for-2005/Dec 19th 2005 12:53AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/05/12/sony-playstation-3-for-2005/http://www.engadget.com/2005/05/12/sony-playstation-3-for-2005/Dec 19th 2005 12:53AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/05/12/sony-playstation-3-for-2005/http://www.engadget.com/2005/05/12/sony-playstation-3-for-2005/Dec 19th 2005 12:53AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/05/12/sony-playstation-3-for-2005/http://www.engadget.com/2005/05/12/sony-playstation-3-for-2005/Dec 19th 2005 12:53AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/05/12/sony-playstation-3-for-2005/http://www.engadget.com/2005/05/12/sony-playstation-3-for-2005/Dec 19th 2005 12:53AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/05/12/sony-playstation-3-for-2005/http://www.engadget.com/2005/05/12/sony-playstation-3-for-2005/Dec 19th 2005 12:53AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/05/12/sony-playstation-3-for-2005/http://www.engadget.com/2005/05/12/sony-playstation-3-for-2005/Dec 19th 2005 12:53AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/05/12/sony-playstation-3-for-2005/http://www.engadget.com/2005/05/12/sony-playstation-3-for-2005/Dec 19th 2005 12:53AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/05/12/sony-playstation-3-for-2005/http://www.engadget.com/2005/05/12/sony-playstation-3-for-2005/Dec 19th 2005 12:53AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/05/12/sony-playstation-3-for-2005/http://www.engadget.com/2005/05/12/sony-playstation-3-for-2005/
Other than that, I'm neutral here. Microsoft has been hurting in the stocks a lot. So has Sony. Both companies are looking for new ways to make money. Sony's stock jumped up at the release of the PS2.]]>Dec 19th 2005 12:53AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/05/12/sony-playstation-3-for-2005/http://www.engadget.com/2005/05/12/sony-playstation-3-for-2005/Dec 19th 2005 12:53AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/05/12/sony-playstation-3-for-2005/http://www.engadget.com/2005/05/12/sony-playstation-3-for-2005/Dec 19th 2005 12:53AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/05/12/sony-playstation-3-for-2005/http://www.engadget.com/2005/05/12/sony-playstation-3-for-2005/Dec 19th 2005 12:53AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/05/12/sony-playstation-3-for-2005/http://www.engadget.com/2005/05/12/sony-playstation-3-for-2005/Dec 19th 2005 12:53AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/05/12/sony-playstation-3-for-2005/http://www.engadget.com/2005/05/12/sony-playstation-3-for-2005/Dec 19th 2005 12:53AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/05/12/sony-playstation-3-for-2005/http://www.engadget.com/2005/05/12/sony-playstation-3-for-2005/
As far as the xbox 360 being weaker than the ps3, I think that is very doubtful. A 3-core processor running at 3.2 ghz!! 512 mb of gddr3 memory! The CELL processor is certainly interesting, but I think at the end of the day, the PS3 will be roughly matched to the xbox 3 in raw power (if not slightly underpowered). The games are of course the most important thing.

As far as bluray being the defacto next generation optical disk, You wish! It certainly has some advantages over hd-dvd (most notably capacity), but with the announcement of a higher capacity hddvd with nearly the same capacity of a bluray disk, the playing field is very close right now. Many analysts think that the name HD-DVD itself may draw consumers more than BLURAY, although this can certainly be debated. There are powerful forces on both sides, and this fight is far from over. (I'm sure Sony is praying to whatever God it believes in that bluray gets on top)

Yea as far as the hard drive, 20 gigs should be more than enough for the majority of gamers that will not use it for much more than saving games and possibly ripping discs. Give me a break. It hasn't even been confirmed that the PS3 will have a hard drive.

Overall I think it is pretty clear to all sane parties that there will be quite a drawn out battle between the two giants, but my personal opinion is that the xbox 360 will edge it out.]]>Dec 19th 2005 12:53AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/05/12/sony-playstation-3-for-2005/http://www.engadget.com/2005/05/12/sony-playstation-3-for-2005/
Just thought you should know.]]>Dec 19th 2005 12:53AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/05/12/sony-playstation-3-for-2005/http://www.engadget.com/2005/05/12/sony-playstation-3-for-2005/
although it probably wont be as powerful i'd still probably rather get the next nintendo console for zelda, super smath bros, metroid,namcos "tales of __" series, and a few others. btw rumors say nintendo is also going cell.]]>Dec 19th 2005 12:53AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/05/12/sony-playstation-3-for-2005/http://www.engadget.com/2005/05/12/sony-playstation-3-for-2005/
"As far as bluray being the defacto next generation optical disk, You wish! It certainly has some advantages over hd-dvd (most notably capacity), but with the announcement of a higher capacity hddvd with nearly the same capacity of a bluray disk, the playing field is very close right now."

You fail it. One layer of HD-DVD goodness is 15GB; one layer of Blu-ray is 25GB. And there are prototypes of eight layer Blu-ray discs. Eight layer HD-DVD discs are not even possible, as the surface layer of an HD-DVD is 0.6mm vs. a BD's 0.1mm. You proudly refer to the fact that Toshiba and co. announced a three layer HD-DVD disc, and that it's only 5GB short of a dual-layer BD. So, um, if you think the playing field is level here, you are seriously deluded. Blu-ray is tremendously superior, technically speaking, and the only argument against it is that it's more expensive to adapt existing DVD plants to its production than it is to adapt them to HD-DVD -- and that is, in fact, because it's technically superior.]]>Dec 19th 2005 12:53AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/05/12/sony-playstation-3-for-2005/http://www.engadget.com/2005/05/12/sony-playstation-3-for-2005/Dec 19th 2005 12:53AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/05/12/sony-playstation-3-for-2005/http://www.engadget.com/2005/05/12/sony-playstation-3-for-2005/
Xbox harddrives will have the ability to play xbox 1 games. Such as HALO 2. It is even going to launch with the system. go to xbox.com and view the specs on the console itself. I believe they are using a different GPU, however, they must have developed an emulator of some sorts. All i know is they are infact backward compatible.

Known.]]>Dec 19th 2005 12:53AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/05/12/sony-playstation-3-for-2005/http://www.engadget.com/2005/05/12/sony-playstation-3-for-2005/
X-psFan.]]>Dec 19th 2005 12:53AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/05/12/sony-playstation-3-for-2005/http://www.engadget.com/2005/05/12/sony-playstation-3-for-2005/Dec 19th 2005 12:53AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/05/12/sony-playstation-3-for-2005/http://www.engadget.com/2005/05/12/sony-playstation-3-for-2005/Dec 19th 2005 12:53AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/05/12/sony-playstation-3-for-2005/http://www.engadget.com/2005/05/12/sony-playstation-3-for-2005/ Interesting times ahead in the console world. Even if only to watch one or more of the companies crash and burn (and we all know...we all LOVE to watch things crash and burn...)

That being said, I do think it's interesting that people are propheseing doom for one of these two companies (or at least their console hardware interests).

I think Nintendo is really the only one that is in danger of dropping of the registers as far as market share goes, and even at that, as I've said before...Nintendo has a definite appeal in the youth demographic, and also a loyal fanbase in the ranks of those who purchase their consoles themselves (adults). So long as Nintendo does not let it's reach exceed it's grasp and just continues doing a good job serving their well established consummer base, they'll do fine. They won't dominate...but they will be profitable.

But as far as the showdown between Sony and MS...I think this is more of a boxing match than a pistol duel. One shot ain't gonna get it...it's a slugging match. If you look at history for a model of a videogame giant that fell...you inevitably find SEGA (I weep for thee...*sniff*). Sega OWNED the arena in the glory days of the Genesis and the infamous SEGA scream. But Sega eventually WAS edged out. I say again EVENTUALLY...it didn't happen all at once. They had powerfull hardware and great games, few argue that, but they also made mistakes, many and costly, sustained and in series. No SINGLE mistake toppled them (or at least their hardware division for the most part), and if you took out any one of their larger mistakes the whole landscape might be different now. But put it all together, and you've got Sonic on the Cube...

MS and Sony have troubles, and have made some mistakes on both sides, but not accross 3 generations as Sega did (not yet anyway). And they each have deeper pockets than Sega ever did as well. MS has demonstrated the whole way through the life of the Xbox that they are willing to lose money on the entire Xbox project until it finally gives something back. And Sony, well...Sony has PRIDE and a stubborn streak a mile wide (Memory Stick anyone ?). This may change with their new western influenced administration, but this far into the upcomming generation...Sony is in it no matter whose at the helm.
MS has Longhorn coming within the next year (*snicker*-by years end '06) and Sony has Cell slated for use in a number of different products. Both companies are gearing up to reinvigorate themselves, and since hype is king they probably will increase sales accross the board in the next 2 years before all the results come in about Longhorn and Cell. But that's plenty of cash to subsidize both platforms to the end of the PS3/XB2 era.

Long story short (waaaaay to late I know), this gen could be a turning point, but it's not sudden death...

I plan to just sit back and watch the fun. Or maybe this time I should use this console war for the only thing that wars are good for. PROFITEERING. I'm moving to Japan in the fall and will be there for at least a year.

Anybody need a contact for some gray market import/export ? If Lik-Sang can charge 2xRetail+shipping so fanboys can have decks 5 months early, why can't I ??? >:)]]>Dec 19th 2005 12:53AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/05/12/sony-playstation-3-for-2005/http://www.engadget.com/2005/05/12/sony-playstation-3-for-2005/Dec 19th 2005 12:53AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/05/12/sony-playstation-3-for-2005/http://www.engadget.com/2005/05/12/sony-playstation-3-for-2005/
Wow, Xbox Informed, you really are uninformed. The "open market" has actually given Blu-ray a great deal of support. The Blu-ray Disc Association has over 100 members, including Sony, Matsushita (Panasonic), Dell, Electronic Arts, HP, Apple and Walt Disney. HD-DVD's biggest names are Toshiba, NEC, Warner Brothers, New Line Cinema, Universal and Paramount. To pretend that this is a one-sided battle -- let alone "ALL manufacturers are considering HD the best as of now" -- is complete bullshit.

If "15 is already too much," why, then, are Toshiba pushing their 45GB three-layer HD-DVDs? Well? Maybe it's because HD video uses a lot of space, and once you add DTS, Dolby and other audio layers, and special features, you're pushing 30GB?

"Too much" for what, anyway? It's quite obvious it's not nearly enough for HD movies, and of course, as a general purpose storage solution, we want as much as we can get. Most people, I imagine, wouldn't just decide that "15GB is too much anyway" simply because the far better storage solution was designed by Sony. I personally need 50GB to back up my bare essentials, and I'd love to put all that on one disc -- and that disc will be a Blu-ray disc.

Besides, what are you whinging about, you Xbox fanboi? The Xbox 360 has neither HD-DVD support nor Blu-ray -- it has just plain old DVD. So what is the point of championing HD-DVD? The Xbox doesn't have it anyway! Are you just trying to point out something else it doesn't have?

Seriously, the uninformed don't come much more uninformed, and stupid, than you.

Well, I could be wrong. On the news story above some charming idiot wrote that the Xbox 360 was bigger because it had to fit three CPUs in it. Apparently he didn't know what "three-core" meant. So, perhaps your uninformed stupidity is not so unique on Engadget.

P.S. I don't have a Playstation and I'm not even a Sony fan. (Their MP3 players suck.) But I really admire, and want, Blu-ray. Because I'm a consumer and not a fanboi I pick the best product.]]>Dec 19th 2005 12:53AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/05/12/sony-playstation-3-for-2005/http://www.engadget.com/2005/05/12/sony-playstation-3-for-2005/
i think sony should take one competitor at a time and concentrate on the PSP market this year, this thing is selling quite nice, and prospects are there. if xbox can wow people being released a few months later than ps2, ps3 can be released in summer 2006 and still drive attention with the possibly even better chip and I/O; if they could, link the psp with ps3, psp might already have a really strong stand by then.
i don't think backward support is really that neccesarily, given that PS2 prices are low enough now, and the newer version is so small.]]>Dec 19th 2005 12:53AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/05/12/sony-playstation-3-for-2005/http://www.engadget.com/2005/05/12/sony-playstation-3-for-2005/
PLAYSTATION WILL RULE YET AGAIN!!!]]>Dec 19th 2005 12:53AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/05/12/sony-playstation-3-for-2005/http://www.engadget.com/2005/05/12/sony-playstation-3-for-2005/Dec 19th 2005 12:53AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/05/12/sony-playstation-3-for-2005/http://www.engadget.com/2005/05/12/sony-playstation-3-for-2005/Dec 19th 2005 12:53AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/05/12/sony-playstation-3-for-2005/http://www.engadget.com/2005/05/12/sony-playstation-3-for-2005/
i think the trend will continue in the next generation. new hardware, same scenario. it just makes sense to me. again it comes down to the games and what the consumers like. it seems like the Station's games come in a much larger variety while xbox games come in narrower genres and smaller fanbases. and again it seems like the next gen consoles will play out the same way.]]>Dec 19th 2005 12:53AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/05/12/sony-playstation-3-for-2005/http://www.engadget.com/2005/05/12/sony-playstation-3-for-2005/Dec 19th 2005 12:53AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/05/12/sony-playstation-3-for-2005/http://www.engadget.com/2005/05/12/sony-playstation-3-for-2005/Dec 19th 2005 12:53AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/05/12/sony-playstation-3-for-2005/http://www.engadget.com/2005/05/12/sony-playstation-3-for-2005/Dec 19th 2005 12:53AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/05/12/sony-playstation-3-for-2005/http://www.engadget.com/2005/05/12/sony-playstation-3-for-2005/Dec 19th 2005 12:53AM