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Uh yeah. And guns don't kill, it's them darned bullets.

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Without tasers, the alternatives would be perrer spray (another great less-than-lethal tool), a baton (again, less-than-lethal), or the .45 caliber semiutomatic handgun, loaded with hollowpoint rounds. and just about every officer carries one of those, or an equally lethal equivilant. if a violent suspect is standing too far away for a cop to use the pepper spray or baton, and there are no tasers available (maybe because the PD bowed to the wishes of an ill-informed, anti-taser civilian group), he could probably expect to play catch with a couple of bullets instead.

The choice should be obvious and clear why tasers should be deployed in greater numbers, but until then, thems the breaks.]]>Dec 19th 2005 1:21AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/05/13/taser-guns-are-strike-not-lethal-strike-lethal/http://www.engadget.com/2005/05/13/taser-guns-are-strike-not-lethal-strike-lethal/
But why would you put those things aside?

Regards,
Barb]]>Dec 19th 2005 1:21AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/05/13/taser-guns-are-strike-not-lethal-strike-lethal/http://www.engadget.com/2005/05/13/taser-guns-are-strike-not-lethal-strike-lethal/
http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/articles/2004/10/21/emerson_college_student_dies_after_postgame_melee_associated_press/]]>Dec 19th 2005 1:21AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/05/13/taser-guns-are-strike-not-lethal-strike-lethal/http://www.engadget.com/2005/05/13/taser-guns-are-strike-not-lethal-strike-lethal/
90% of the people that are killed or seriously wounded by "non-lethal" weapons, I feel very little sympathy for. If a person is in a situation where a "non-lethal" weapon is being employeed its probably their own damn fault. I wish people would take some f-ing responsibility for their own actions.]]>Dec 19th 2005 1:21AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/05/13/taser-guns-are-strike-not-lethal-strike-lethal/http://www.engadget.com/2005/05/13/taser-guns-are-strike-not-lethal-strike-lethal/
Sorry, but if it means the guys dies, then so be it. I'm already placing my life at risk every day for the well being of the canadian population, at the end of my shift I WILL be going home, that's the only thing that really matter to me or my family.

Some people are too stupid to realize that, yes, a taser can kill you, but that if you are being tazed, it's not for fun, it's because you are a threat of death or bodily harm to somebody or are combative and resisting arrest.

So far, every person who has died after being tased was under the influence of hard drug. The taser give you 50 000 volts of electricity, but almost no current, which is why it shouldn't be lethal, it's the currant that kills you, not the high voltage.

Every police officers who are taser trained have been tazed themselves, more then once, nothing ever happened...]]>Dec 19th 2005 1:21AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/05/13/taser-guns-are-strike-not-lethal-strike-lethal/http://www.engadget.com/2005/05/13/taser-guns-are-strike-not-lethal-strike-lethal/Dec 19th 2005 1:21AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/05/13/taser-guns-are-strike-not-lethal-strike-lethal/http://www.engadget.com/2005/05/13/taser-guns-are-strike-not-lethal-strike-lethal/
Now if you'll excuse me, I need to drink more caffeine.]]>Dec 19th 2005 1:21AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/05/13/taser-guns-are-strike-not-lethal-strike-lethal/http://www.engadget.com/2005/05/13/taser-guns-are-strike-not-lethal-strike-lethal/
Of COURSE Tasers *can* kill you. It's a question of risks. Police need a tool to subdue persons that can be done at a distance that is NOT a gun. Now, I'll concede that an argument can be made to the effect of, well, are Tasers being used more than they "should" be used?

I mean, the number of deaths as a percentage of actual Taser usage is almost infinitesimal. The idea is that Tasers are designed to be not lethal, but any time you receive an incapacitating electric shock, depending on where it hits you, your health, and many, many other factors, the danger could vary widely - and a confluence of events may happen that might lead to death.

The more important question is, on balance, how many MORE people - be they arrestees or law enforcement officers - would have died if NOT for the Taser?

Conflicts of interest and Taser's interest in sweeping this under the rug aside, any reasonable person can see that Tasers are a fuck of a lot safer than the potential alternative. And no, I'm not saying that your only two options are gun, Taser, or nothing, and I'm also not saying that Taser use is ALWAYS appropriate. But Christ, people, use your fucking heads here. Don't always knee-jerk to the anti-police anti-corporate position. Taser may have a vested interest here, but its primary purpose is making an ideally non-lethal weapon. Unfortunately, EVERY application of force CAN be lethal under some circumstances. It's about percentages. A hundred Taser deaths? Out of how many hundreds of thousands of successful uses? And uses in lieu of (almost assuredly) deadly force?]]>Dec 19th 2005 1:21AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/05/13/taser-guns-are-strike-not-lethal-strike-lethal/http://www.engadget.com/2005/05/13/taser-guns-are-strike-not-lethal-strike-lethal/On another note, why do people bother arguing with cops. Im not a cop but I know damn well that they are just humans who have more power and authority than most of us. And humans are flawed, id rather have a cop pull a taser on me than a gun (just hope neither happens.)Usually the best thing is just to agree and take it easy and if you have any problems, sue them or report them. Like that pregnant woman, why bother arguing with the cop? We dont know what happened, and I seriously doubt the cop just pulled the taser out because she didnīt want to sign a ticket. Even though cops can be incredibly annoying they usually arenīt stupid. And no cop is gonna risk his job because some woman didnīt want to sign a ticket.]]>Dec 19th 2005 1:21AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/05/13/taser-guns-are-strike-not-lethal-strike-lethal/http://www.engadget.com/2005/05/13/taser-guns-are-strike-not-lethal-strike-lethal/
http://msnbc.msn.com/id/7405567/

Pigs are smarter than dogs, and I would NEVER do this to a dog.]]>Dec 19th 2005 1:21AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/05/13/taser-guns-are-strike-not-lethal-strike-lethal/http://www.engadget.com/2005/05/13/taser-guns-are-strike-not-lethal-strike-lethal/
you never hear about how many times people have been tazered instead of shot - so fuck it, run tazer into the ground, give the cops their guns back and lets have more people shot to death - i support that - means more jobs because dead people can't work]]>Dec 19th 2005 1:21AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/05/13/taser-guns-are-strike-not-lethal-strike-lethal/http://www.engadget.com/2005/05/13/taser-guns-are-strike-not-lethal-strike-lethal/
Anyway, my new 900,000V stun gun is now here!!! It's smaller than a pack of cigarettes! See this;

http://www.beststungun.com/streetwise-mini-stun-gun.html]]>Dec 19th 2005 1:21AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/05/13/taser-guns-are-strike-not-lethal-strike-lethal/http://www.engadget.com/2005/05/13/taser-guns-are-strike-not-lethal-strike-lethal/
Anyway, my new 900,000V stun gun is now here!!! It's smaller than a pack of cigarettes! See this;

http://www.beststungun.com/streetwise-mini-stun-gun.html]]>Dec 19th 2005 1:21AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/05/13/taser-guns-are-strike-not-lethal-strike-lethal/http://www.engadget.com/2005/05/13/taser-guns-are-strike-not-lethal-strike-lethal/
Anyway, my new 900,000V stun gun is now here!!! It's smaller than a pack of cigarettes! See this;

http://www.beststungun.com/streetwise-mini-stun-gun.html]]>Dec 19th 2005 1:21AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/05/13/taser-guns-are-strike-not-lethal-strike-lethal/http://www.engadget.com/2005/05/13/taser-guns-are-strike-not-lethal-strike-lethal/
Somewhere in the marketing spin less lethal became non lethal. But still an excellent product. Police have used them to apprehend many people that otherwise would have been shot.

-Ed]]>Dec 19th 2005 1:21AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/05/13/taser-guns-are-strike-not-lethal-strike-lethal/http://www.engadget.com/2005/05/13/taser-guns-are-strike-not-lethal-strike-lethal/
Tasers aren't lethal per se - but as other people pointed out it is an electrical shock so anything can happen.

That said, when police use them it's usually an alternative to deadly force. Taken in context I think most people would rather be hit with a taser and have a 99% chance of living than shot.

I've been in situations where a taser was used. The person did not die, and after the 5 second jolt they were fine. However, when we did use them, we also had the legal authority to use deadly force too.

So long as officers don't misuse a taser they can be very effective.]]>Dec 19th 2005 1:21AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/05/13/taser-guns-are-strike-not-lethal-strike-lethal/http://www.engadget.com/2005/05/13/taser-guns-are-strike-not-lethal-strike-lethal/
"It's about percentages. A hundred Taser deaths? Out of how many hundreds of thousands of successful uses? And uses in lieu of (almost assuredly) deadly force?"

"They're only a risk to you IF you find yourself in a violent altercation with law enforcement officers, (come on, how hard is it to be a law-abiding citizen?),"

"If a person is in a situation where a "non-lethal" weapon is being employeed its probably their own damn fault. I wish people would take some f-ing responsibility for their own actions."

If none of these give you even any remote pause then look at #11's post who sums this up nicely:

"The fact of the matter is, law enforcement officers will have a tool at their disposal that seems like it can be used in a variety of situations with minimal health consequences and that will consequently be used more than in necessary."

While I do agree with them being available for use what I do not agree with is the fact that some in law enforcement tend to use Taser weapons far too frequently for my taste. Argue over a speeding ticket? Tazer for you. Being "disruptive" in 9th grade class? Call the boys in blue for a little Tazer therapy. Look at anyone in uniform funny? Guess what kiddies, it's Tazer time. I mean, why not use them? It's not like they're going to die and we can always plead we were in danger. It's our word against yours and seeing how you are in jail and a "criminal" then who do you think they will believe more?

Bottom line, too many are getting WAY too Tazer happy. I do not blame the tool for doing it's job but I do blame the Taze happy person using it. Had I the choice I think I'd rather get shot. At least then maybe someone would take notice that there is a serious attitude problem going on with some in law enforcement rather than say "Well, they're highly trained professionals." or "It's their fault for provoking the officer...".

And please, do not get me wrong here, I know there are some good ones out there in law enforcement. But, by the same token, there are also a lot of bad ones who use their station to met out misery upon the general population and Goddess help you if they are having a bad day. Law-abiding my tail, I'm just terrified some hyped-up robocop may wind up Tazing or shooting me because "Well, she looked suspicious and her pinky finger moved and may have been going for a weapon." *shudder*

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"Argue over a speeding ticket? Tazer for you."

(How about keeping your mouth shut, stop speeding, and fight it in court if you really want to? Yelling at a cop is not going to do you any good, whether they have a Taser or not.)

"Being "disruptive" in 9th grade class? Call the boys in blue for a little Tazer therapy."

("Disruptive"? Get your shit together, and respect that some people are in school because they WANT to be. Students who mouth off to teachers shouldn't be there in the first place).

"Look at anyone in uniform funny? Guess what kiddies, it's Tazer time."

If by "look at them funny" you mean mouth off to them, and call them "fat fucking pigs" and all that crap, then they've got it coming.

I don't like cops. I dealt with them as I grew up a few times. I have a stereotypical view of them, and I think many fit the profile. HOWEVER, they are out there getting shot at, and if they're doing their job, I think they deserve a reasonable amount of respect.

And kids mouthing off in high school, or speeding, know they are doing something they shouldn't be doing in the first place. Do they deserved to be tased? Of course not, but they should get their shit together first.]]>Dec 19th 2005 1:21AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/05/13/taser-guns-are-strike-not-lethal-strike-lethal/http://www.engadget.com/2005/05/13/taser-guns-are-strike-not-lethal-strike-lethal/"Sorry, but if it means the guys dies, then so be it. I'm already placing my life at risk every day for the well being of the canadian population, at the end of my shift I WILL be going home, that's the only thing that really matter to me or my family."


Dude, you really suck giant donkey balls. If I were ever in canada, I'd find a way to hunt u down and taze u till u fried. Your family can thank me later.



]]>Dec 19th 2005 1:21AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/05/13/taser-guns-are-strike-not-lethal-strike-lethal/http://www.engadget.com/2005/05/13/taser-guns-are-strike-not-lethal-strike-lethal/
http://www.taser.com/law/product_info/usb.html

besides, you're a woman, and i don't mean to be sexist, but isn't it common for women to attempt to "abuse" their feminine charm to get out of trouble with the police? ;)]]>Dec 19th 2005 1:21AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/05/13/taser-guns-are-strike-not-lethal-strike-lethal/http://www.engadget.com/2005/05/13/taser-guns-are-strike-not-lethal-strike-lethal/
*shrug* Last time I looked the Bill of Rights said "Innocent until proven guilty" and not "Guilty until proven innocent". In either event, I look at Tasers just like I would as any weapon; do not use unless you are DAMN sure you are in danger. Tasing someone just because they "mouth off" or are "yelling" is no excuse to me because it's being used way too often in situations where it really was not warranted.

In the meantime, here is some nice bedtime reading for you:

75-year old woman gets tasered for refusing to leave ailing friend at nursing home
http://www.infowars.com/print/ps/taser_oldwoman.htm

Man get tasered for refusal of paying for a salad in front of his children
http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/4242058/detail.html
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*shrug* Last time I looked the Bill of Rights said "Innocent until proven guilty" and not "Guilty until proven innocent". In either event, I look at Tasers just like I would as any weapon; do not use unless you are DAMN sure you are in danger. Tasing someone just because they "mouth off" or are "yelling" is no excuse to me because it's being used way too often in situations where it really was not warranted.

In the meantime, here is some nice bedtime reading for you:

75-year old woman gets tasered for refusing to leave ailing friend at nursing home
http://www.infowars.com/print/ps/taser_oldwoman.htm

Man get tasered for refusal of paying for a salad in front of his children
http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/4242058/detail.html
]]>Dec 19th 2005 1:21AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/05/13/taser-guns-are-strike-not-lethal-strike-lethal/http://www.engadget.com/2005/05/13/taser-guns-are-strike-not-lethal-strike-lethal/
We've had the taser in the RCMP for a while, and i have started carrying it with me about a year and a half ago. I have used it once, and once only. Why? Because there was no backup available, and i was by myself. The guy had already stabbed someone, and was pointing his knife and refused to drop it and come with me peacefuly. In some states he would have been shot on sight and would probably have died from his wound. The only thing this guy had to do once he calmed himself was come with me on a trip to the hospital to remove the probes.

The officer safety comes first in every situation, but the taser is an efficient tool that prevent people from getting shot.]]>Dec 19th 2005 1:21AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/05/13/taser-guns-are-strike-not-lethal-strike-lethal/http://www.engadget.com/2005/05/13/taser-guns-are-strike-not-lethal-strike-lethal/
Cops are people to, and on the whole some of the most moral and caring people in any of the area's I have lived. The biggest disjustice here from where I sit is the trama these unexpected deaths caused to the officers. Murder is still murder, even if the officer had every intention of resolving the issue without loss of life. I wonder how the officers victimized by falsified information feel about this?]]>Dec 19th 2005 1:21AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/05/13/taser-guns-are-strike-not-lethal-strike-lethal/http://www.engadget.com/2005/05/13/taser-guns-are-strike-not-lethal-strike-lethal/
These tools are only good when used with sound and reasonable judgement by the officer. They definately should not be used to subdue an annoying person. "I look at Tasers just like I would as any weapon" from ladyfox #22 hits it right on the money, no doubt about it. If used correctly, this should be preventing uneeded deaths by being used when the officer or a civilian are in dangered physically. From my standing, if the recieving end of the Taser does not have a knife, club (with nail in it), gun, or other instrument of death the Taser should NOT be used.

The article on the elderly lady being Tased is just bad taste and a disgusting display of lack of respect by the officer. I'm not saying that a 75 year old lady can't pose a danger. I'm saying that when your 75, you should be given a bit more respect than this lady recieved (and by bit, I mean any at all).]]>Dec 19th 2005 1:21AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/05/13/taser-guns-are-strike-not-lethal-strike-lethal/http://www.engadget.com/2005/05/13/taser-guns-are-strike-not-lethal-strike-lethal/
http://www.theage.com.au/news/National/Concerns-over-safety-of-Taser-stun-guns/2005/04/19/1113854203255.html

http://theage.com.au/news/National/Police-stun-gun-can-kill-secret-report-says/2005/04/17/1113676645588.html

looks like we get to enjoy the taser love now too...]]>Dec 19th 2005 1:21AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/05/13/taser-guns-are-strike-not-lethal-strike-lethal/http://www.engadget.com/2005/05/13/taser-guns-are-strike-not-lethal-strike-lethal/Soooo....those 100+ people who died after being tasered would still be with us, after being shot because they didn't listen to the police?
Now granted a flawed study is pointless, but more importantly, who gives a fuck?
Obey police orders = life, disobey = taser OR firearm?
Well, the way I see it, taser is a 1 in a "gazillion" chance of killing me because I might have an unknown heart condition or I'm pretty sure I have a 100% certain death allergy to high velocity lead poisoning. Yeah let's study why stupid people die because they didn't listen or broke the law. Let's also study why liberal boneheads can't ever find a lick of common sense to figure out that you don't ever have to get tasered in the first place.
All together now....
Obey the law, if you can't do that, when the police catch you and say "Lay down!", maybe you should lay the fuck down.
Oh and can we change the title of this article to "Stupid criminals are lethal" OR better yet "Female Liberal finds emotion-based argument trumps logic and common sense".]]>Dec 19th 2005 1:21AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/05/13/taser-guns-are-strike-not-lethal-strike-lethal/http://www.engadget.com/2005/05/13/taser-guns-are-strike-not-lethal-strike-lethal/
what about the 6 year old that got tazed by some cops:

http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/200411/s1242761.htm

do the British "Bobbies" still police the streets of london without firearms?
Do you ever wonder why gun violence is so many times higher here in north america, when compared to other developed countries?
do guns with electric bullets change the way we think about resolving conflicts.
anyway, for those that don't agree with my point of view, you can pigeonhole me a "pacifist flake" or whatever, unfortunately, i have to bring my kids up in your world, not the other way around.
thanks engadget, this one sure inspired some debate!]]>Dec 19th 2005 1:21AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/05/13/taser-guns-are-strike-not-lethal-strike-lethal/http://www.engadget.com/2005/05/13/taser-guns-are-strike-not-lethal-strike-lethal/Dec 19th 2005 1:21AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/05/13/taser-guns-are-strike-not-lethal-strike-lethal/http://www.engadget.com/2005/05/13/taser-guns-are-strike-not-lethal-strike-lethal/
By the way, officers are trained that it is a LESS LETHAL use of force, not a non-lethal. Any time an officer lays hands, sprays, tasers, shoots someone there is always a chance of someone dying.

Kinda off topic, but anyone that saw the 6 year old being handcuffed by the police a while ago - why isnt anyone figuring out why she acted a fool? How about looking to (lack of) parenting. If people would raise their own kids in the appropriate manner, 99% of the time the police would not have to be involved.

It's far too easy for society to blame the police than to deal with the real issues that make society the way it is today.

]]>Dec 19th 2005 1:21AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/05/13/taser-guns-are-strike-not-lethal-strike-lethal/http://www.engadget.com/2005/05/13/taser-guns-are-strike-not-lethal-strike-lethal/
When the people in the articles you posted chose to resist arrest, the officer chose to use a less-than-lethal method of restraining them. If I was an officer, I would choose tasing a person resisting my arrest over having to get in a physical altercation with them.

The "pregnant woman tased" article is a great tool to wave around and shock people, but the facts were she was pulled over for speeding and refused to sign the ticket. Someone commented otherwise, but I know that in Ohio you are 100% required to sign a ticket, and if you don't, you will be promptly arrested. Signing is not an admission of guilt, as she was advised. When they advised her she would be placed under arrest, she resisted verbally and physically. They then attempted to physically remove her from the car, and she held on to the steering wheel and would not let go.

The option for the officer was to taze her or hit her, and she was pregnant. He tazed her. Even after that, she had to be pulled from the car while someone else pushed from behind. I have zero sympathy.

These things are being used properly in almost all instances and are an effective tool. I'm sure there have been instances where they shouldn't have been used, but the same goes for anything... guns, batons, pepper spray. If it was used improperly, address that, but thats not a reason to stop using them entirely. And none of the examples I have seen from you were inappropriate.]]>Dec 19th 2005 1:21AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/05/13/taser-guns-are-strike-not-lethal-strike-lethal/http://www.engadget.com/2005/05/13/taser-guns-are-strike-not-lethal-strike-lethal/Dec 19th 2005 1:21AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/05/13/taser-guns-are-strike-not-lethal-strike-lethal/http://www.engadget.com/2005/05/13/taser-guns-are-strike-not-lethal-strike-lethal/Dec 19th 2005 1:21AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/05/13/taser-guns-are-strike-not-lethal-strike-lethal/http://www.engadget.com/2005/05/13/taser-guns-are-strike-not-lethal-strike-lethal/
Sorry but anytime you use that many volts on someone there is 50/50 chance of being wrong

I wish all you pro tazer asshole will go done and let them test them on you. That why police officer are suieng the tazer company because they were injured.

Next I would like you to tell my brothers kids that it was alright for them to use them on him and kill him (Shawn Pirolozzi), since he did nothing wrong and was not charged with anything, but needed ems help instead. the cops were judge jury and and felt they had a right to do what they want.

Remeber we pay taxes for the right of protection not abuse. Cops did pretty good before tazers were made.]]>Dec 19th 2005 1:21AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/05/13/taser-guns-are-strike-not-lethal-strike-lethal/http://www.engadget.com/2005/05/13/taser-guns-are-strike-not-lethal-strike-lethal/
I believe the use of a taser is necessary in certain situations, but police have made it many years without them with people who are not listening, should they be able to taser people now who decide not to listen?

If police can taser a 14 year old boy while he is on his couch, then why can't vice principals of schools taser for children who aren't listening?!(that was a sarcastic comment for those of you who take things literally)

Should insubordination to the extreme of ignoring what someone says come with the consequences of having a potential death/near death experience?]]>Dec 19th 2005 1:21AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/05/13/taser-guns-are-strike-not-lethal-strike-lethal/http://www.engadget.com/2005/05/13/taser-guns-are-strike-not-lethal-strike-lethal/
I believe the use of a taser is necessary in certain situations, but police have made it many years without them with people who are not listening, should they be able to taser people now who decide not to listen?

If police can taser a 14 year old boy while he is on his couch, then why can't vice principals of schools taser for children who aren't listening?!(that was a sarcastic comment for those of you who take things literally)

Should insubordination to the extreme of ignoring what someone says come with the consequences of having a potential death/near death experience?]]>Dec 19th 2005 1:21AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/05/13/taser-guns-are-strike-not-lethal-strike-lethal/http://www.engadget.com/2005/05/13/taser-guns-are-strike-not-lethal-strike-lethal/Dec 19th 2005 1:21AM