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Seriously though, watch Sony try to push ahead their release date again.]]>Dec 19th 2005 1:21AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/05/26/xbox-360-to-ship-by-thanksgiving/http://www.engadget.com/2005/05/26/xbox-360-to-ship-by-thanksgiving/Dec 19th 2005 1:21AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/05/26/xbox-360-to-ship-by-thanksgiving/http://www.engadget.com/2005/05/26/xbox-360-to-ship-by-thanksgiving/
They've gotta have a console actually *made* first :) Or can they just put hype in a box and charge 400 bucks for it?]]>Dec 19th 2005 1:21AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/05/26/xbox-360-to-ship-by-thanksgiving/http://www.engadget.com/2005/05/26/xbox-360-to-ship-by-thanksgiving/Dec 19th 2005 1:21AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/05/26/xbox-360-to-ship-by-thanksgiving/http://www.engadget.com/2005/05/26/xbox-360-to-ship-by-thanksgiving/Dec 19th 2005 1:21AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/05/26/xbox-360-to-ship-by-thanksgiving/http://www.engadget.com/2005/05/26/xbox-360-to-ship-by-thanksgiving/What I am sure of is that by the end of the year Microsoft will have had to fix some bug in their console and thus screw everyone who bought one early. *sigh*

Man that day after Thanksgiving sale is going to be NUTS this year. dag nabbit.]]>Dec 19th 2005 1:21AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/05/26/xbox-360-to-ship-by-thanksgiving/http://www.engadget.com/2005/05/26/xbox-360-to-ship-by-thanksgiving/
- Games are easily gonna run at least $70 at release. Increased licensing and development costs. Microsoft will make up part of the hardware cost loss with increased licensing.

- Same with hardware accessories. Increased licensing to make extra hardware for this thing.

- Xbox Live is where it's at. Having Live Basic come standard with the 360, and giving gamers a free taste of Live content (try before you buy), Big M will definetly recover costs with the new Xbox Live.]]>Dec 19th 2005 1:21AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/05/26/xbox-360-to-ship-by-thanksgiving/http://www.engadget.com/2005/05/26/xbox-360-to-ship-by-thanksgiving/Dec 19th 2005 1:21AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/05/26/xbox-360-to-ship-by-thanksgiving/http://www.engadget.com/2005/05/26/xbox-360-to-ship-by-thanksgiving/Dec 19th 2005 1:21AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/05/26/xbox-360-to-ship-by-thanksgiving/http://www.engadget.com/2005/05/26/xbox-360-to-ship-by-thanksgiving/
Now if they were in their house showing off the system on their television, they would have used the 360. Obviously E3 and a living room are 2 totally different settings.]]>Dec 19th 2005 1:21AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/05/26/xbox-360-to-ship-by-thanksgiving/http://www.engadget.com/2005/05/26/xbox-360-to-ship-by-thanksgiving/Dec 19th 2005 1:21AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/05/26/xbox-360-to-ship-by-thanksgiving/http://www.engadget.com/2005/05/26/xbox-360-to-ship-by-thanksgiving/Dec 19th 2005 1:21AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/05/26/xbox-360-to-ship-by-thanksgiving/http://www.engadget.com/2005/05/26/xbox-360-to-ship-by-thanksgiving/
Sony on the other hand may be forced to release later on due to the nature of the components they are putting into this beast of a machine.

If M$ employ a low price approach they may end up taking most of the non-gamer (buy it as a gift at christmas) type of guys. This may enable them to get developers onto their side by showing them that they have lots of customers.

I think sony just need to build up the hype to delay the customers into thinking why buy a technically subpar system when a much more powerful one is to come out in only 6 months or so.

Both are promising some sort of all in one media entertainment system (perhaps thereby justifying the high price) which may help to sell it to the non-gamer sect of console buyers.]]>Dec 19th 2005 1:21AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/05/26/xbox-360-to-ship-by-thanksgiving/http://www.engadget.com/2005/05/26/xbox-360-to-ship-by-thanksgiving/
#7 - I'm sorry that you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. It's great that you've thought about this - but I'm sorry about your clear lack of economic understanding. Econ 101 will teach you all about "supply and demand". You should take it sometime!]]>Dec 19th 2005 1:21AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/05/26/xbox-360-to-ship-by-thanksgiving/http://www.engadget.com/2005/05/26/xbox-360-to-ship-by-thanksgiving/
If it came out the right after thanksgiving it think it would be a smart move only if they have the supply. The lines at best buy are already 400 yards long and I could only imagine people lining up at 9pm on thanksgiving day to get an Xbox 360 the next morning.

I think i'll just order mine online and wait the day or so and avoid the crowds.]]>Dec 19th 2005 1:21AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/05/26/xbox-360-to-ship-by-thanksgiving/http://www.engadget.com/2005/05/26/xbox-360-to-ship-by-thanksgiving/Dec 19th 2005 1:21AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/05/26/xbox-360-to-ship-by-thanksgiving/http://www.engadget.com/2005/05/26/xbox-360-to-ship-by-thanksgiving/
In the end, I will still be the dumb ass and give into the hype of the gaming systems, as the gamer in me always does, and purchase each system as soon as i get the right amount saved/hustled up. But take heed, people, the next generation is about to begin.]]>Dec 19th 2005 1:21AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/05/26/xbox-360-to-ship-by-thanksgiving/http://www.engadget.com/2005/05/26/xbox-360-to-ship-by-thanksgiving/I will be surprised if the 360 is under $300 and I will not be surprise if the 360 is $399.

Here are some pros and cons by releasing the 360 ahead of the PS3 and revolution:

Pros - Being that they will have the first dip into the so called "Next Gen" market. But I think the key here is backward compatibility, as (we all know) that the killer app for the 360 is the new Halo game which MS will use it as the anti-PS3 launch weapon. So if you want the 360 for the new halo game? why buy it a year before the game came out when you can get the 360 at a potentially cheaper price with the game a year later. So, "IF" the 360 is a "true" BWC machine, at least people can still play their old halo games on the new machine. (for whatever reason)

Cons - 360 will potentially be the most expensive gaming console to date at launch and with all the hype about how xboxlive will cure cancer, ultimately it is how much consumer are willing to pay for it. So, 360 will have to be the lab rat for the other upcoming machine to test the water. On the other hand, it is confirmed that both PS3 & Revolution will be fully BWC, and there "WILL" be another price drop for both PS2 and Gamecube (you can quote me on this) for the 2005 holiday season. So for kids who still have to cry and scream to get what they want, those would be it. Not to mention, the fact that the games that they got for those machine this year, will not became instant "scratch and loose" garbage 2 years down the road.

I will be getting both new machine for sure but the question would be when.
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-$70 dollar games. It's gonna be the norm. Hell, alot of new big PC releases are coming out at $60 dollars instead of the norm of $40-$50. It's due to licensing and dev costs.]]>Dec 19th 2005 1:21AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/05/26/xbox-360-to-ship-by-thanksgiving/http://www.engadget.com/2005/05/26/xbox-360-to-ship-by-thanksgiving/
I am not buying a living room entertainment system, I have a PC for that. I want to play games. I think Nintendo is the only one who gets that.]]>Dec 19th 2005 1:21AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/05/26/xbox-360-to-ship-by-thanksgiving/http://www.engadget.com/2005/05/26/xbox-360-to-ship-by-thanksgiving/Dec 19th 2005 1:21AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/05/26/xbox-360-to-ship-by-thanksgiving/http://www.engadget.com/2005/05/26/xbox-360-to-ship-by-thanksgiving/Dec 19th 2005 1:21AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/05/26/xbox-360-to-ship-by-thanksgiving/http://www.engadget.com/2005/05/26/xbox-360-to-ship-by-thanksgiving/Dec 19th 2005 1:21AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/05/26/xbox-360-to-ship-by-thanksgiving/http://www.engadget.com/2005/05/26/xbox-360-to-ship-by-thanksgiving/
Perhaps more importantly, the PSP (not a traditional "console," I know) was launched in the US in March as well, proving that you can successfully launch a platform in the US in March, and giving Sony a real reason to be confident about being flexible with the launch date in the states.

Those are the only two spring launches I can remember, but they were both successful Springtime launches for Sony, so they are significant to the discussion here.

I'd predict MS to make an early Nov. launch...Sony in mid-March. I have no idea where Sony will launch first though. I'd suspect Japan first, but following the success of the PSP launch, and remembering how Sony had trouble meeting Christmas demand with the US PS2 launch, who knows? If the 360 follows the original XBox in failing to penetrate the Japanese market early on, Sony might chose to meet the competition head-on in N.A. first. If the 360 does start to do well in Japan, I'd expect Sony to shore up that "home" market by launching there first.
]]>Dec 19th 2005 1:21AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/05/26/xbox-360-to-ship-by-thanksgiving/http://www.engadget.com/2005/05/26/xbox-360-to-ship-by-thanksgiving/
I'm just curious if they think PD0 is going to be as big of a draw as Halo. Like it or not the XBox is the "HaloBox" to many people.

Pricing will be interesting, I don't know if the US market is ready for $70 games.]]>Dec 19th 2005 1:21AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/05/26/xbox-360-to-ship-by-thanksgiving/http://www.engadget.com/2005/05/26/xbox-360-to-ship-by-thanksgiving/
It looks like you're riding the BS train all the way to Sonyland. I didn't know you can predict the future like Ms. Cleo.


#13 "Last time round Sony had both a better product"

What constituted a better product? Made you buy a separate hard drive to play 2 whole games that supported it? Made you buy a network adapter when the online component is crap? Made a smaller PS2 so you can buy it again for the seventeenth time. Sure, Sony made a better product and that product was a Sony Walkman cassette player.]]>Dec 19th 2005 1:21AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/05/26/xbox-360-to-ship-by-thanksgiving/http://www.engadget.com/2005/05/26/xbox-360-to-ship-by-thanksgiving/
Think for yourself - question authority (and Sony)]]>Dec 19th 2005 1:21AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/05/26/xbox-360-to-ship-by-thanksgiving/http://www.engadget.com/2005/05/26/xbox-360-to-ship-by-thanksgiving/Dec 19th 2005 1:21AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/05/26/xbox-360-to-ship-by-thanksgiving/http://www.engadget.com/2005/05/26/xbox-360-to-ship-by-thanksgiving/Dec 19th 2005 1:21AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/05/26/xbox-360-to-ship-by-thanksgiving/http://www.engadget.com/2005/05/26/xbox-360-to-ship-by-thanksgiving/Dec 19th 2005 1:21AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/05/26/xbox-360-to-ship-by-thanksgiving/http://www.engadget.com/2005/05/26/xbox-360-to-ship-by-thanksgiving/Dec 19th 2005 1:21AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/05/26/xbox-360-to-ship-by-thanksgiving/http://www.engadget.com/2005/05/26/xbox-360-to-ship-by-thanksgiving/
None the less, I'm not worried about the price points between the consoles. I'm prepared to spend $300 apiece, maybe $400 IF they come with certain add-ons in the box (ex. 2 controllers, or a built in HDD, S-Video instead of component cables, or *gasp* god forbid, a actual F'ing game)

I would, however have a problem paying $70 per title. I purposefully look at each game to see what console they're on, whether it be PC, PS2, XBox... if its PS2 or Xbox exclusive, I obviously have to pick, but if the tile is on the PC, I get it for the PC. Aside from *some* obvious benefits of the game on the PC, usually you can get it for $30-40 instead of paying $50. I'm not a tight-wad when it comes to buying games, I just wouldn't like spending $70 on a title that may not keep my interest for long.
]]>Dec 19th 2005 1:21AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/05/26/xbox-360-to-ship-by-thanksgiving/http://www.engadget.com/2005/05/26/xbox-360-to-ship-by-thanksgiving/Dec 19th 2005 1:21AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/05/26/xbox-360-to-ship-by-thanksgiving/http://www.engadget.com/2005/05/26/xbox-360-to-ship-by-thanksgiving/Dec 19th 2005 1:21AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/05/26/xbox-360-to-ship-by-thanksgiving/http://www.engadget.com/2005/05/26/xbox-360-to-ship-by-thanksgiving/What I am sure of is that by the end of the year Microsoft will have had to fix some bug in their console and thus screw everyone who bought one early. *sigh*"

Um, PS2 had lots of issues... more than I've heard of with nintendo..


And PS3 is basically a fictional console for now... I don't understand what all the people are whining about with 360 running on macs. At least it was RUNNING. How can you compare that to PS3 which just had BS "concept gameplay" ... Ie. prerendered scenes]]>Dec 19th 2005 1:21AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/05/26/xbox-360-to-ship-by-thanksgiving/http://www.engadget.com/2005/05/26/xbox-360-to-ship-by-thanksgiving/Dec 19th 2005 1:21AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/05/26/xbox-360-to-ship-by-thanksgiving/http://www.engadget.com/2005/05/26/xbox-360-to-ship-by-thanksgiving/
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Please give up on all this juvenile fanboy-ism. You look like an idiot, and make the rest of us look like idiots by association.
]]>Dec 19th 2005 1:21AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/05/26/xbox-360-to-ship-by-thanksgiving/http://www.engadget.com/2005/05/26/xbox-360-to-ship-by-thanksgiving/
I don't need another PC with PC type games, I have 5 PCs on my home network already.]]>Dec 19th 2005 1:21AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/05/26/xbox-360-to-ship-by-thanksgiving/http://www.engadget.com/2005/05/26/xbox-360-to-ship-by-thanksgiving/Dec 19th 2005 1:21AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/05/26/xbox-360-to-ship-by-thanksgiving/http://www.engadget.com/2005/05/26/xbox-360-to-ship-by-thanksgiving/
Sony has continuously over hyped and under produced for years.

Sony's claims that the Emotion Engine had "Toy Story" level graphical quality was a lie.

PS2's HDD add-on was supported by one game and basically rendered obsolete by their updated PS2 months after its release.

The PSP was released with underwhelming games and not many on the horizon. It has a litany of hardware issues ranging from a button that didn't work or became stuck because of a design flaw to LCD screens plagued with pixel issues. And yet they released a statement claiming there is nothing wrong and that it is perfection and a work of art.

I've been playing games for years, have flipped my PS1 upside down to get it to work and bypassed the PS2 era entirely in favor of Xbox.

I just can't understand why Sony has so much consumer support. Even going into other electronic avenues, Sony's reputation for hardware reliability is garbage. Mini discs were over hyped and abandoned. Their LCD Projection TVs have a host of problems...etc...etc.]]>Dec 19th 2005 1:21AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/05/26/xbox-360-to-ship-by-thanksgiving/http://www.engadget.com/2005/05/26/xbox-360-to-ship-by-thanksgiving/Dec 19th 2005 1:21AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/05/26/xbox-360-to-ship-by-thanksgiving/http://www.engadget.com/2005/05/26/xbox-360-to-ship-by-thanksgiving/Dec 19th 2005 1:21AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/05/26/xbox-360-to-ship-by-thanksgiving/http://www.engadget.com/2005/05/26/xbox-360-to-ship-by-thanksgiving/Dec 19th 2005 1:21AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/05/26/xbox-360-to-ship-by-thanksgiving/http://www.engadget.com/2005/05/26/xbox-360-to-ship-by-thanksgiving/I was not talking about Sony's Playstation, I was talking about Microsoft's XBox,
Oh, and I don't understand why that statement was at all necessary. I never said "OMGZ MICROSOFT IS THE ONLY COMPANY WITH BUGS" I just made a simple prediction.
Chill out Sony fans. We come in peace... or at least I do.]]>Dec 19th 2005 1:21AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/05/26/xbox-360-to-ship-by-thanksgiving/http://www.engadget.com/2005/05/26/xbox-360-to-ship-by-thanksgiving/Dec 19th 2005 1:21AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/05/26/xbox-360-to-ship-by-thanksgiving/http://www.engadget.com/2005/05/26/xbox-360-to-ship-by-thanksgiving/
Like he needs to? But that's beside the point. If you've actually kept up with the news you would have known that XBox division turned its first profit this quarter. When introducing Xbox in 20001, MS did day that it was going to be unprofitable for three years and it seems that they are right on target.]]>Dec 19th 2005 1:21AM