http://www.engadget.com/2005/07/30/apple-recruiting-sony-vaio-engineers-to-build-the-first-intel/ Engadget Comments for Apple recruiting Sony VAIO engineers to build the first Intel PowerBook? http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2009 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2005/07/30/apple-recruiting-sony-vaio-engineers-to-build-the-first-intel/http://www.engadget.com/2005/07/30/apple-recruiting-sony-vaio-engineers-to-build-the-first-intel/Dec 19th 2005 12:18AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/07/30/apple-recruiting-sony-vaio-engineers-to-build-the-first-intel/http://www.engadget.com/2005/07/30/apple-recruiting-sony-vaio-engineers-to-build-the-first-intel/
I have a love hate relationship with a Vaio R505. That's why I bought an iBook...]]>Dec 19th 2005 12:18AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/07/30/apple-recruiting-sony-vaio-engineers-to-build-the-first-intel/http://www.engadget.com/2005/07/30/apple-recruiting-sony-vaio-engineers-to-build-the-first-intel/Dec 19th 2005 12:18AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/07/30/apple-recruiting-sony-vaio-engineers-to-build-the-first-intel/http://www.engadget.com/2005/07/30/apple-recruiting-sony-vaio-engineers-to-build-the-first-intel/Dec 19th 2005 12:18AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/07/30/apple-recruiting-sony-vaio-engineers-to-build-the-first-intel/http://www.engadget.com/2005/07/30/apple-recruiting-sony-vaio-engineers-to-build-the-first-intel/Dec 19th 2005 12:18AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/07/30/apple-recruiting-sony-vaio-engineers-to-build-the-first-intel/http://www.engadget.com/2005/07/30/apple-recruiting-sony-vaio-engineers-to-build-the-first-intel/
Of course it's going to be sweet, but again, how will they engineer and differentiate (besides the awesome OS) to all the dweeb PC users who only look at raw specs? Example: search for Airport Extreme and you'll find PC-centric reviews that rail the thing because it doesn't throw in four extra Enet ports... um, WHY? IT'S FRIGGIN' WIRELESS...

Just because you can, doesn't mean you should.

That's the question, and how myopic naysayers pan Apple products and (sadly) turn public opinion into fact (or not; read: iPod) but I'm sure in the end, we'll all be impressed by their innovations.

It will rock, as most of their crap does over far-worse Win-crap.
...

]]>Dec 19th 2005 12:18AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/07/30/apple-recruiting-sony-vaio-engineers-to-build-the-first-intel/http://www.engadget.com/2005/07/30/apple-recruiting-sony-vaio-engineers-to-build-the-first-intel/Dec 19th 2005 12:18AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/07/30/apple-recruiting-sony-vaio-engineers-to-build-the-first-intel/http://www.engadget.com/2005/07/30/apple-recruiting-sony-vaio-engineers-to-build-the-first-intel/Dec 19th 2005 12:18AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/07/30/apple-recruiting-sony-vaio-engineers-to-build-the-first-intel/http://www.engadget.com/2005/07/30/apple-recruiting-sony-vaio-engineers-to-build-the-first-intel/Overpriced.
Shit battery life.
Shit components.
Wet look screen which reflects everything making it impossible to see unless in a darkened room.
But they will make great gaming consoles...]]>Dec 19th 2005 12:18AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/07/30/apple-recruiting-sony-vaio-engineers-to-build-the-first-intel/http://www.engadget.com/2005/07/30/apple-recruiting-sony-vaio-engineers-to-build-the-first-intel/Dec 19th 2005 12:18AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/07/30/apple-recruiting-sony-vaio-engineers-to-build-the-first-intel/http://www.engadget.com/2005/07/30/apple-recruiting-sony-vaio-engineers-to-build-the-first-intel/Shit battery life.
Shit components.
Wet look screen which reflects everything making it impossible to see unless in a darkened room.
But they will make great gaming consoles..."

do you honestly believe that Apple will just use Sony components and design everywhere? Obviously Apple will be consistent with their design style and make sure all the laptop meets the criteria set out by Apple.]]>Dec 19th 2005 12:18AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/07/30/apple-recruiting-sony-vaio-engineers-to-build-the-first-intel/http://www.engadget.com/2005/07/30/apple-recruiting-sony-vaio-engineers-to-build-the-first-intel/Dec 19th 2005 12:18AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/07/30/apple-recruiting-sony-vaio-engineers-to-build-the-first-intel/http://www.engadget.com/2005/07/30/apple-recruiting-sony-vaio-engineers-to-build-the-first-intel/Dec 19th 2005 12:18AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/07/30/apple-recruiting-sony-vaio-engineers-to-build-the-first-intel/http://www.engadget.com/2005/07/30/apple-recruiting-sony-vaio-engineers-to-build-the-first-intel/Dec 19th 2005 12:18AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/07/30/apple-recruiting-sony-vaio-engineers-to-build-the-first-intel/http://www.engadget.com/2005/07/30/apple-recruiting-sony-vaio-engineers-to-build-the-first-intel/
Or, Apple might (since this is unconfirmed) just be getting a hand from Sony with some Intel architecture and are still the ones actually making the laptop.

It's funny listening to what some of you guys will say whenever Apple comes up even though it flies in the face of basic common sense.]]>Dec 19th 2005 12:18AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/07/30/apple-recruiting-sony-vaio-engineers-to-build-the-first-intel/http://www.engadget.com/2005/07/30/apple-recruiting-sony-vaio-engineers-to-build-the-first-intel/
I would much rather they hired some ex-IBM engineers than ex-Sony ones. The Thinkpad is the best laptop available today, bar none, at least for anyone who gives a damn about actually using it rather than just making it look sleek and cool. It's got the best keyboard, it's had a longer history of keeping module compatibility than anyone (we have stacks of old Toshiba and Dell modules in a drawer at work, but the old Ultrabay modules are still good in all but the thinnest thinkpads), and it's full of just plain nice design features like the white LED above the display that illuminates the whole keyboard... not just the edges of the keys.

Either that, or license OS X to Lenovo so I can get a Thinkpad running an OS that doesn't suck.]]>Dec 19th 2005 12:18AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/07/30/apple-recruiting-sony-vaio-engineers-to-build-the-first-intel/http://www.engadget.com/2005/07/30/apple-recruiting-sony-vaio-engineers-to-build-the-first-intel/Dec 19th 2005 12:18AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/07/30/apple-recruiting-sony-vaio-engineers-to-build-the-first-intel/http://www.engadget.com/2005/07/30/apple-recruiting-sony-vaio-engineers-to-build-the-first-intel/Dec 19th 2005 12:18AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/07/30/apple-recruiting-sony-vaio-engineers-to-build-the-first-intel/http://www.engadget.com/2005/07/30/apple-recruiting-sony-vaio-engineers-to-build-the-first-intel/
"Just" a new Apple notebook would not have a lot of special features to offer compared to existing devices. A cheap tablet PC like device would.]]>Dec 19th 2005 12:18AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/07/30/apple-recruiting-sony-vaio-engineers-to-build-the-first-intel/http://www.engadget.com/2005/07/30/apple-recruiting-sony-vaio-engineers-to-build-the-first-intel/Dec 19th 2005 12:18AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/07/30/apple-recruiting-sony-vaio-engineers-to-build-the-first-intel/http://www.engadget.com/2005/07/30/apple-recruiting-sony-vaio-engineers-to-build-the-first-intel/
While not everyone likes Sony's styling, it certainly is better than anything that domestic PC laptop makers have produced. The only truly innovative laptop makers left are Apple and Sony. Others notables include IBM/Lenovo, Fujitsu, Samsung, Toshiba, Sharp and Panasonic who still produce their own designs but are not as groundbreaking.]]>Dec 19th 2005 12:18AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/07/30/apple-recruiting-sony-vaio-engineers-to-build-the-first-intel/http://www.engadget.com/2005/07/30/apple-recruiting-sony-vaio-engineers-to-build-the-first-intel/Dec 19th 2005 12:18AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/07/30/apple-recruiting-sony-vaio-engineers-to-build-the-first-intel/http://www.engadget.com/2005/07/30/apple-recruiting-sony-vaio-engineers-to-build-the-first-intel/Dec 19th 2005 12:18AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/07/30/apple-recruiting-sony-vaio-engineers-to-build-the-first-intel/http://www.engadget.com/2005/07/30/apple-recruiting-sony-vaio-engineers-to-build-the-first-intel/Dec 19th 2005 12:18AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/07/30/apple-recruiting-sony-vaio-engineers-to-build-the-first-intel/http://www.engadget.com/2005/07/30/apple-recruiting-sony-vaio-engineers-to-build-the-first-intel/
Think of it. You're getting the best of the best people at designing notebooks. You all know that they're not going to simply copy a PC design. They basically get to start with a fresh slate so you can expect that they will produce something awesome. They already have an awesome OS to work with and they have experts at shrinking PC components and optimizing power. I'm sure that Apple will still design the overall product to keep it in line with their other products.

Just imagine a Powerbook that weighs 3.5-4lbs, that can last 7-8 hours (for real), has a vibrant color screen, all your favorite ports, possibly all carbon fibre design, and all connectivity. Nothing to complain about here! :-)]]>Dec 19th 2005 12:18AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/07/30/apple-recruiting-sony-vaio-engineers-to-build-the-first-intel/http://www.engadget.com/2005/07/30/apple-recruiting-sony-vaio-engineers-to-build-the-first-intel/
The 2400 was not originally intended for the US market but interest in the product got it localized for the US market (thus the strange keyboard "dead keys"..... Lot's more trivia available but I think I wasted enough time...

Great little machine I still miss......]]>Dec 19th 2005 12:18AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/07/30/apple-recruiting-sony-vaio-engineers-to-build-the-first-intel/http://www.engadget.com/2005/07/30/apple-recruiting-sony-vaio-engineers-to-build-the-first-intel/Dec 19th 2005 12:18AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/07/30/apple-recruiting-sony-vaio-engineers-to-build-the-first-intel/http://www.engadget.com/2005/07/30/apple-recruiting-sony-vaio-engineers-to-build-the-first-intel/Dec 19th 2005 12:18AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/07/30/apple-recruiting-sony-vaio-engineers-to-build-the-first-intel/http://www.engadget.com/2005/07/30/apple-recruiting-sony-vaio-engineers-to-build-the-first-intel/Dec 19th 2005 12:18AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/07/30/apple-recruiting-sony-vaio-engineers-to-build-the-first-intel/http://www.engadget.com/2005/07/30/apple-recruiting-sony-vaio-engineers-to-build-the-first-intel/
Apple just needs to make sure it gets the engineers who were responsible for this model! :)]]>Dec 19th 2005 12:18AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/07/30/apple-recruiting-sony-vaio-engineers-to-build-the-first-intel/http://www.engadget.com/2005/07/30/apple-recruiting-sony-vaio-engineers-to-build-the-first-intel/
to these comments about the next powerbook being designed by Sony, get a hint from everyone around you, theyre talking about keeping the thin-and-light design while incorporating a processor that needs a heftier cooling solution then they are used to, not just to redesign the laptop, but if they do, i cant wait, heck i cant wait to use the Mac OS on a computer thats fast enough to run it comfortably rather than waiting 10 seconds to open up a program]]>Dec 19th 2005 12:18AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/07/30/apple-recruiting-sony-vaio-engineers-to-build-the-first-intel/http://www.engadget.com/2005/07/30/apple-recruiting-sony-vaio-engineers-to-build-the-first-intel/
But that's not the issue here ;)
It's that they are using Sony and ex-Sony employees to design the hardware (which consists of casing). "Light and Thin" are the keywords. I'm thinking that the new laptops will resemble the VGN-S360 in different sizes. What I think they will be designing is the internal components so that they can all fit under a certain size.

I'm sure Apple is sticking with intel manufacturing the mainboard (using the 915 chipset) and probably intel's next gen onboard video (which will still probably be worse than the current radeon 9200, sorry, i really dislike intel's onboard video).]]>Dec 19th 2005 12:18AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/07/30/apple-recruiting-sony-vaio-engineers-to-build-the-first-intel/http://www.engadget.com/2005/07/30/apple-recruiting-sony-vaio-engineers-to-build-the-first-intel/ witten by steve:
>This is contrary to the buzz I hear... (not that the buzz is reliable)

How contrary exactly? Sony hiring PowerBook engineers away from Apple?
Hmmm...]]>Dec 19th 2005 12:18AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/07/30/apple-recruiting-sony-vaio-engineers-to-build-the-first-intel/http://www.engadget.com/2005/07/30/apple-recruiting-sony-vaio-engineers-to-build-the-first-intel/Dec 19th 2005 12:18AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/07/30/apple-recruiting-sony-vaio-engineers-to-build-the-first-intel/http://www.engadget.com/2005/07/30/apple-recruiting-sony-vaio-engineers-to-build-the-first-intel/
Its a good rumor though.]]>Dec 19th 2005 12:18AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/07/30/apple-recruiting-sony-vaio-engineers-to-build-the-first-intel/http://www.engadget.com/2005/07/30/apple-recruiting-sony-vaio-engineers-to-build-the-first-intel/
"trying to recruit as many current Sony VAIO and ex-Sony VAIO engineers".

Recruit means that apple is trying to get Sony engineers to work for Apple, not Sony the company working for apple.]]>Dec 19th 2005 12:18AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/07/30/apple-recruiting-sony-vaio-engineers-to-build-the-first-intel/http://www.engadget.com/2005/07/30/apple-recruiting-sony-vaio-engineers-to-build-the-first-intel/
Yes, the Intel switch was agreed and made public only recently, but Apple surely has been working on Intel-based laptop engineering for some time already, just as they have for desktop machines. Just look at the Developer Platform Macs - they had an Intel motherboard sitting inside a Power Mac case from day 1 of the announcement.

It's plain to see that the PowerBook line has suffered the most from Apple's PowerPC legacy. It's stagnated for the best part of a year, while all the other Mac offerings improved steadily. The separation between iBook and PowerBook is the smallest ever. The only reason Apple didn't upgrade the Mac mini properly this month is because it would have made it as fast as Apple's supposedly "Pro" PowerBooks, and the Mac mini is designated to the low-end consumer line.

Steve Jobs preached to the masses in January and proclaimed that 2005 was going to be the year of HD. He hates to be made a fool of, and the PowerBook currently makes him look foolish. A "Pro" laptop that can't play HD video, when the iMac G5 can? I hope this is hurting him as much as it's hurting his most loyal Pro customers.

The last 3 hardware upgrades this year have all been consistently yawned at by even the Mac faithful. Apple have some serious ground to make up on the hardware front. Hiring new engineers today might help, but I'd say today would be too late.]]>Dec 19th 2005 12:18AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/07/30/apple-recruiting-sony-vaio-engineers-to-build-the-first-intel/http://www.engadget.com/2005/07/30/apple-recruiting-sony-vaio-engineers-to-build-the-first-intel/Dec 19th 2005 12:18AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/07/30/apple-recruiting-sony-vaio-engineers-to-build-the-first-intel/http://www.engadget.com/2005/07/30/apple-recruiting-sony-vaio-engineers-to-build-the-first-intel/Dec 19th 2005 12:18AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/07/30/apple-recruiting-sony-vaio-engineers-to-build-the-first-intel/http://www.engadget.com/2005/07/30/apple-recruiting-sony-vaio-engineers-to-build-the-first-intel/Dec 19th 2005 12:18AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/07/30/apple-recruiting-sony-vaio-engineers-to-build-the-first-intel/http://www.engadget.com/2005/07/30/apple-recruiting-sony-vaio-engineers-to-build-the-first-intel/
Absolutely not. Internal architecture has nothing to do with external design. You think people who specialize in creating the engines for a car have any considerable experience or input into the look of the vehicle?

Please.

The look will be created by Apple's award-winning Industrial Design Team led by Jonathan Ive, as it has always been the case.]]>Dec 19th 2005 12:18AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/07/30/apple-recruiting-sony-vaio-engineers-to-build-the-first-intel/http://www.engadget.com/2005/07/30/apple-recruiting-sony-vaio-engineers-to-build-the-first-intel/Those engineers will learn to deal with those top dogs (vise versa).
Since Jobs came back, there are such many hurtful mistakes...
to users' feeling.... It is funny, I think the degree Apple and Sony
hurt their fans are quite comparable.

Just add more variaty here, zzz.]]>Dec 19th 2005 12:18AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/07/30/apple-recruiting-sony-vaio-engineers-to-build-the-first-intel/http://www.engadget.com/2005/07/30/apple-recruiting-sony-vaio-engineers-to-build-the-first-intel/
And form follows function; the case has to accomodate the needs of the internal architecture as well as giving the machine style.]]>Dec 19th 2005 12:18AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/07/30/apple-recruiting-sony-vaio-engineers-to-build-the-first-intel/http://www.engadget.com/2005/07/30/apple-recruiting-sony-vaio-engineers-to-build-the-first-intel/Dec 19th 2005 12:18AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/07/30/apple-recruiting-sony-vaio-engineers-to-build-the-first-intel/http://www.engadget.com/2005/07/30/apple-recruiting-sony-vaio-engineers-to-build-the-first-intel/Apple nowadays = form follows function follows integrity follows marketing follows mr. Jobs

Ur, zzz.]]>Dec 19th 2005 12:18AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/07/30/apple-recruiting-sony-vaio-engineers-to-build-the-first-intel/http://www.engadget.com/2005/07/30/apple-recruiting-sony-vaio-engineers-to-build-the-first-intel/
This means the GUTS of the damned thing. Not how it looks. Jesus people. Learn to read.]]>Dec 19th 2005 12:18AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/07/30/apple-recruiting-sony-vaio-engineers-to-build-the-first-intel/http://www.engadget.com/2005/07/30/apple-recruiting-sony-vaio-engineers-to-build-the-first-intel/Dec 19th 2005 12:18AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/07/30/apple-recruiting-sony-vaio-engineers-to-build-the-first-intel/http://www.engadget.com/2005/07/30/apple-recruiting-sony-vaio-engineers-to-build-the-first-intel/Or it will steal (Confabulator: Widgets) in a fair term. It likes cutting cost nowadays, and playing heavy hands on marketing. So, it doesn't use contractors as before as Mary Branscombe said (#41), but try extending in-house as much as it could. Good HP's hand is with apple marketing team, and now it's Sony's time. I saw some Asus stuffs though, impressive and sturdy. Sony's stuffs recently is questionable, but still great. Asus obviously copies Sony, in my opinion for laptop or plam-top technology, appearance, and inspiration.]]>Dec 19th 2005 12:18AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/07/30/apple-recruiting-sony-vaio-engineers-to-build-the-first-intel/http://www.engadget.com/2005/07/30/apple-recruiting-sony-vaio-engineers-to-build-the-first-intel/
Good news: Faster Powerbooks

Bad news: Powerbooks that break faster
(with Sony’s worst-in-the-industry durablity and build quality)

Mo’ bad: This bastard-lovechild VAIObook is gonna built with “help” of rejected Sony boneheads with high TOEFL scores. Let me tell you I have never worked with a lower lifeform than Sony management and their striving for the least robust construction.

Well…. at least the new VAIObook may not have the normal Powerbook feature of overheating and whining like Boeing 777 full of Japanese girls coming back from a vacation in Papua New Guinea. Right now, my Powerbook is sitting on a cryotherapy pad with hoses connecting it to small refrigeration unit on the floor to keep the Powerbook quietly keening rather than screaming.

Taro in Tokyo
http://news.3yen.com/]]>Dec 19th 2005 12:18AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/07/30/apple-recruiting-sony-vaio-engineers-to-build-the-first-intel/http://www.engadget.com/2005/07/30/apple-recruiting-sony-vaio-engineers-to-build-the-first-intel/Dec 19th 2005 12:18AM