http://www.engadget.com/2005/08/27/the-rio-carbon-c-what-could-have-been/ Engadget Comments for The Rio Carbon C: what could have been http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2005/08/27/the-rio-carbon-c-what-could-have-been/http://www.engadget.com/2005/08/27/the-rio-carbon-c-what-could-have-been/Dec 19th 2005 1:05AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/08/27/the-rio-carbon-c-what-could-have-been/http://www.engadget.com/2005/08/27/the-rio-carbon-c-what-could-have-been/Sounds like a pretty good device. Too bad we'll never see it, I guess.]]>Dec 19th 2005 1:05AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/08/27/the-rio-carbon-c-what-could-have-been/http://www.engadget.com/2005/08/27/the-rio-carbon-c-what-could-have-been/Dec 19th 2005 1:05AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/08/27/the-rio-carbon-c-what-could-have-been/http://www.engadget.com/2005/08/27/the-rio-carbon-c-what-could-have-been/ crappy touch wheel.]]>Dec 19th 2005 1:05AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/08/27/the-rio-carbon-c-what-could-have-been/http://www.engadget.com/2005/08/27/the-rio-carbon-c-what-could-have-been/someone with money please buy Rio and revive them NOW]]>Dec 19th 2005 1:05AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/08/27/the-rio-carbon-c-what-could-have-been/http://www.engadget.com/2005/08/27/the-rio-carbon-c-what-could-have-been/
chroma.ytmnd.com
chromer.ytmnd.com]]>Dec 19th 2005 1:05AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/08/27/the-rio-carbon-c-what-could-have-been/http://www.engadget.com/2005/08/27/the-rio-carbon-c-what-could-have-been/Dec 19th 2005 1:05AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/08/27/the-rio-carbon-c-what-could-have-been/http://www.engadget.com/2005/08/27/the-rio-carbon-c-what-could-have-been/
Not soon enough though. Really Rio, you had a good thing going. If you were to tell me that the player was going to have gapless playback as well, I might even shed a tear. {sniff}]]>Dec 19th 2005 1:05AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/08/27/the-rio-carbon-c-what-could-have-been/http://www.engadget.com/2005/08/27/the-rio-carbon-c-what-could-have-been/
or is it because of the corporate worship?]]>Dec 19th 2005 1:05AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/08/27/the-rio-carbon-c-what-could-have-been/http://www.engadget.com/2005/08/27/the-rio-carbon-c-what-could-have-been/Dec 19th 2005 1:05AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/08/27/the-rio-carbon-c-what-could-have-been/http://www.engadget.com/2005/08/27/the-rio-carbon-c-what-could-have-been/
but, if i heard this was coming out at a reasonable price i might of held off on a purchase of an mp3 player, mechinical scroll wheel would be pretty nice (for those days you feel old school ;)

but wait, why are there little things "menu" "|>" ">" around the wheel a la clickwheel? maybe thats why they didnt go, stevie likes to sue everyone he can]]>Dec 19th 2005 1:05AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/08/27/the-rio-carbon-c-what-could-have-been/http://www.engadget.com/2005/08/27/the-rio-carbon-c-what-could-have-been/
If it was just corporate worship, it seems strange to me that all your silly prostrating before Rio has yet to rouse whatever unholy god is in charge of these things. Hell, The posts on Rio articles alone would have made it number one according to that assumption.]]>Dec 19th 2005 1:05AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/08/27/the-rio-carbon-c-what-could-have-been/http://www.engadget.com/2005/08/27/the-rio-carbon-c-what-could-have-been/Dec 19th 2005 1:05AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/08/27/the-rio-carbon-c-what-could-have-been/http://www.engadget.com/2005/08/27/the-rio-carbon-c-what-could-have-been/
Blaming Apple for this is like blaming Tiger Woods if Vijay Singh doesn't win a tournament.

This looks like it could have been great. I'm an iPod user myself, but I don't want to see one ring to rule them all, either. It sucks sucks sucks that Rio is gone, especially in a world where the Oakley Thump gets a budget.

Without Rio, there might not be any consumer MP3 players at all. If they hadn't fought the RIAA back at the beginning of it all, we'd still be using Discmans.

You want to blame someone? Blame D&M Holdings, and SigmaTel. There's your weasels.]]>Dec 19th 2005 1:05AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/08/27/the-rio-carbon-c-what-could-have-been/http://www.engadget.com/2005/08/27/the-rio-carbon-c-what-could-have-been/Dec 19th 2005 1:05AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/08/27/the-rio-carbon-c-what-could-have-been/http://www.engadget.com/2005/08/27/the-rio-carbon-c-what-could-have-been/Dec 19th 2005 1:05AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/08/27/the-rio-carbon-c-what-could-have-been/http://www.engadget.com/2005/08/27/the-rio-carbon-c-what-could-have-been/Dec 19th 2005 1:05AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/08/27/the-rio-carbon-c-what-could-have-been/http://www.engadget.com/2005/08/27/the-rio-carbon-c-what-could-have-been/Dec 19th 2005 1:05AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/08/27/the-rio-carbon-c-what-could-have-been/http://www.engadget.com/2005/08/27/the-rio-carbon-c-what-could-have-been/" ">" around the wheel a la clickwheel? maybe thats why they didnt go, stevie likes to sue everyone he can"

Actually, Rio's had that for a while.

http://www.zosia51.beep.pl/Zdjecia/CD_MP3%20playery/rio/karma/1rio%20karma%20swB4.JPG
http://www.beta.it/beta/bs029801/2099.3/2099lg21.jpg
http://ouziel.blogs.com/photos/uncategorized/rio_1.jpg

"Haha, I like the Engadget logo where the female headphone jack should be. :P"

Remote port, you mean? I like it too. Keen eye...

"You want to blame someone? Blame D&M Holdings, and SigmaTel. There's your weasels."

It is indeed D&M's fault Rio is dead. They made their products iPod compatible, but not compatible with their own goddamn product. They never advertised. Ever.

Sigmatel, on the other hand, is doing a good thing. Everybody who worked at Rio that would have been fired were actually moved to Sigmatel, keeping their jobs. They'll be continuing to program, and the Rio interface will live on in products that use Sigmatel chips. That's good, at least.]]>Dec 19th 2005 1:05AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/08/27/the-rio-carbon-c-what-could-have-been/http://www.engadget.com/2005/08/27/the-rio-carbon-c-what-could-have-been/"I will never forgive Apple."

Yes, because we all know that Apple sent a wrecking crew over to tear down Rio's HQ and kick their dogs...

Ugh.]]>Dec 19th 2005 1:05AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/08/27/the-rio-carbon-c-what-could-have-been/http://www.engadget.com/2005/08/27/the-rio-carbon-c-what-could-have-been/love rio, but what about this was "set to outclass pretty much everything else"? remote shipping with device is nice, but everything else seems par for a dap on the robust side of average. and if this was to be the final design, well, meh, eh? meh.]]>Dec 19th 2005 1:05AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/08/27/the-rio-carbon-c-what-could-have-been/http://www.engadget.com/2005/08/27/the-rio-carbon-c-what-could-have-been/
"Thanks, Liz"


Hmm...]]>Dec 19th 2005 1:05AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/08/27/the-rio-carbon-c-what-could-have-been/http://www.engadget.com/2005/08/27/the-rio-carbon-c-what-could-have-been/Dec 19th 2005 1:05AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/08/27/the-rio-carbon-c-what-could-have-been/http://www.engadget.com/2005/08/27/the-rio-carbon-c-what-could-have-been/
Andy]]>Dec 19th 2005 1:05AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/08/27/the-rio-carbon-c-what-could-have-been/http://www.engadget.com/2005/08/27/the-rio-carbon-c-what-could-have-been/Dec 19th 2005 1:05AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/08/27/the-rio-carbon-c-what-could-have-been/http://www.engadget.com/2005/08/27/the-rio-carbon-c-what-could-have-been/
I'd love to see that manual...]]>Dec 19th 2005 1:05AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/08/27/the-rio-carbon-c-what-could-have-been/http://www.engadget.com/2005/08/27/the-rio-carbon-c-what-could-have-been/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-disclosure_agreement]]>Dec 19th 2005 1:05AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/08/27/the-rio-carbon-c-what-could-have-been/http://www.engadget.com/2005/08/27/the-rio-carbon-c-what-could-have-been/
The Carbon C was actually a whole line of players. The one shown here is the 30GB one, but there were plans for 6 gig and 8 gig ones with similar features, but in regular Carbon cases. These wouldn't have remotes or line in or a dock or anything like that. There wasn't a 20 gig model planned, but there was a 40 gig model planned that would have had even more features.

Yes, it did FLAC and ogg. Yes, it's a mechanical scroll wheel with slight physical stops on the way, and the wheel clicks in each direction. Plus, there's a button in the center. So it's kind of like a cross between the mechanical wheel on gen. 1 ipods, and the click wheel on current ipods. Also, it was targeting 30 hour battery life.

It wasn't actually entering production yet, but it was pretty close.]]>Dec 19th 2005 1:05AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/08/27/the-rio-carbon-c-what-could-have-been/http://www.engadget.com/2005/08/27/the-rio-carbon-c-what-could-have-been/Dec 19th 2005 1:05AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/08/27/the-rio-carbon-c-what-could-have-been/http://www.engadget.com/2005/08/27/the-rio-carbon-c-what-could-have-been/Dec 19th 2005 1:05AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/08/27/the-rio-carbon-c-what-could-have-been/http://www.engadget.com/2005/08/27/the-rio-carbon-c-what-could-have-been/
I guess it would've been nice to have a good Linux player though. Maybe someone will buy the plans from them?]]>Dec 19th 2005 1:05AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/08/27/the-rio-carbon-c-what-could-have-been/http://www.engadget.com/2005/08/27/the-rio-carbon-c-what-could-have-been/Dec 19th 2005 1:05AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/08/27/the-rio-carbon-c-what-could-have-been/http://www.engadget.com/2005/08/27/the-rio-carbon-c-what-could-have-been/Dec 19th 2005 1:05AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/08/27/the-rio-carbon-c-what-could-have-been/http://www.engadget.com/2005/08/27/the-rio-carbon-c-what-could-have-been/Dec 19th 2005 1:05AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/08/27/the-rio-carbon-c-what-could-have-been/http://www.engadget.com/2005/08/27/the-rio-carbon-c-what-could-have-been/
While the Carbon C is interesting, the SDIO slot in the Chroma had my attention more.]]>Dec 19th 2005 1:05AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/08/27/the-rio-carbon-c-what-could-have-been/http://www.engadget.com/2005/08/27/the-rio-carbon-c-what-could-have-been/
It looks really slick]]>Dec 19th 2005 1:05AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/08/27/the-rio-carbon-c-what-could-have-been/http://www.engadget.com/2005/08/27/the-rio-carbon-c-what-could-have-been/
We will see several other failures in the next two months. CEOs are going to pull the plug on what they see as losing battles. The holiday season is just too expensive this time around.]]>Dec 19th 2005 1:05AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/08/27/the-rio-carbon-c-what-could-have-been/http://www.engadget.com/2005/08/27/the-rio-carbon-c-what-could-have-been/
1) has excellent sound quality
2) is small and light (ie no thicker or heavier than an iPod Mini)
3) supports gapless MP3 playback
4) has a built-in USB2 charge/data male connector
5) has a built-in LAN connector (w/out needing a dock)
6) has 8GB or more
7) has well-placed controls, including a scroll wheel
8) shows up as a mass storage device (w/out drivers)
9) allows for playlist management on-the-fly
11) built-in bluetooth and software that allows it to double as a remote for your computer (like Airclick) as well as being able to transfer files
12) built-in wifi
13) java-based platform independent manager and player that works through LAN, USB, BT, and wifi
14) built-in webserver
15) replaceable battery

The Karma had a lot of those things but after using it for several months, I sold it because of its weight and thick form-factor.]]>Dec 19th 2005 1:05AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/08/27/the-rio-carbon-c-what-could-have-been/http://www.engadget.com/2005/08/27/the-rio-carbon-c-what-could-have-been/My Nitrus plus most other models already have a scroll wheel. It's exactly like the one on your mouse.]]>Dec 19th 2005 1:05AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/08/27/the-rio-carbon-c-what-could-have-been/http://www.engadget.com/2005/08/27/the-rio-carbon-c-what-could-have-been/Dec 19th 2005 1:05AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/08/27/the-rio-carbon-c-what-could-have-been/http://www.engadget.com/2005/08/27/the-rio-carbon-c-what-could-have-been/Dec 19th 2005 1:05AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/08/27/the-rio-carbon-c-what-could-have-been/http://www.engadget.com/2005/08/27/the-rio-carbon-c-what-could-have-been/Dec 19th 2005 1:05AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/08/27/the-rio-carbon-c-what-could-have-been/http://www.engadget.com/2005/08/27/the-rio-carbon-c-what-could-have-been/
I never would have guessed my Karma was going to have to last me as long as it will now that I can't get decent FLAC support on a 20+Gig DAP.

Very unhappy. I wonder if the brainiac that thought he could save a few dollars by buying inferior hard drives for the Karma ever realized he was torching the company (eventually) in the process...]]>Dec 19th 2005 1:05AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/08/27/the-rio-carbon-c-what-could-have-been/http://www.engadget.com/2005/08/27/the-rio-carbon-c-what-could-have-been/Dec 19th 2005 1:05AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/08/27/the-rio-carbon-c-what-could-have-been/http://www.engadget.com/2005/08/27/the-rio-carbon-c-what-could-have-been/Dec 19th 2005 1:05AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/08/27/the-rio-carbon-c-what-could-have-been/http://www.engadget.com/2005/08/27/the-rio-carbon-c-what-could-have-been/Dec 19th 2005 1:05AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/08/27/the-rio-carbon-c-what-could-have-been/http://www.engadget.com/2005/08/27/the-rio-carbon-c-what-could-have-been/Dec 19th 2005 1:05AM