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Sadly my favorite company (mitsubishi) is on both sides, but that is alright as they need to be on both ends!]]>Dec 19th 2005 1:06AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/09/19/blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-state-of-the-s-union-s-division/http://www.engadget.com/2005/09/19/blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-state-of-the-s-union-s-division/Dec 19th 2005 1:06AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/09/19/blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-state-of-the-s-union-s-division/http://www.engadget.com/2005/09/19/blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-state-of-the-s-union-s-division/Dec 19th 2005 1:06AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/09/19/blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-state-of-the-s-union-s-division/http://www.engadget.com/2005/09/19/blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-state-of-the-s-union-s-division/Mar 18th 2008 11:12PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/09/19/blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-state-of-the-s-union-s-division/http://www.engadget.com/2005/09/19/blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-state-of-the-s-union-s-division/"Companies listed as Members of the Board or Managing Members: Blu-Ray: Walt Disney Pictures and Television"
yet
"Studios (movie and game) listed as supporting members: HD DVD: The Walt Disney Company"

WTF?
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Sony helped popularise the DVD format through PS2 even though they didnt directly benefit as much as Toshiba et al...

Now with PS3 they're saying "NO WAY Toshie..not again, this time we're using our format' ...]]>Dec 19th 2005 1:06AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/09/19/blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-state-of-the-s-union-s-division/http://www.engadget.com/2005/09/19/blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-state-of-the-s-union-s-division/Dec 19th 2005 1:06AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/09/19/blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-state-of-the-s-union-s-division/http://www.engadget.com/2005/09/19/blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-state-of-the-s-union-s-division/Dec 19th 2005 1:06AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/09/19/blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-state-of-the-s-union-s-division/http://www.engadget.com/2005/09/19/blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-state-of-the-s-union-s-division/
Pah!

UMD is the one media to rule them all!!!

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Back when Blu-Ray required a cartridge (before TDK came up with their coating), I bet on HD DVD, but now I say Blu-Ray is the way to go.]]>Dec 19th 2005 1:06AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/09/19/blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-state-of-the-s-union-s-division/http://www.engadget.com/2005/09/19/blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-state-of-the-s-union-s-division/Dec 19th 2005 1:06AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/09/19/blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-state-of-the-s-union-s-division/http://www.engadget.com/2005/09/19/blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-state-of-the-s-union-s-division/
I am also 100% sure that they will eventually make a variable aperture pickup, and variable target depth laser. In the long run (not too far away), the hardware will work with both formats.]]>Dec 19th 2005 1:06AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/09/19/blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-state-of-the-s-union-s-division/http://www.engadget.com/2005/09/19/blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-state-of-the-s-union-s-division/Dec 19th 2005 1:06AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/09/19/blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-state-of-the-s-union-s-division/http://www.engadget.com/2005/09/19/blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-state-of-the-s-union-s-division/
-- Elias]]>Dec 19th 2005 1:06AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/09/19/blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-state-of-the-s-union-s-division/http://www.engadget.com/2005/09/19/blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-state-of-the-s-union-s-division/Dec 19th 2005 1:06AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/09/19/blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-state-of-the-s-union-s-division/http://www.engadget.com/2005/09/19/blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-state-of-the-s-union-s-division/Dec 19th 2005 1:06AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/09/19/blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-state-of-the-s-union-s-division/http://www.engadget.com/2005/09/19/blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-state-of-the-s-union-s-division/
I think the public at large will discover the HD media from the next-gen game console they buy, rather than after buying Hi-Def DVD player (the average consumer will be hard-pressed to differentiate a DVD player from an HD/blu-ray DVD player at their local Best Buys; such was the fate of Super-VHS). In that respect, Blu-Ray (from Sony's PS3) will seem to have the lead (Microsoft has said it will support HD DVD for XBox 360, but in a later release).

I think game console-factor is the porn-factor of yester-year (remember Beta vs. VHS) in determining a technology standard.

BK]]>Dec 19th 2005 1:06AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/09/19/blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-state-of-the-s-union-s-division/http://www.engadget.com/2005/09/19/blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-state-of-the-s-union-s-division/Dec 19th 2005 1:06AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/09/19/blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-state-of-the-s-union-s-division/http://www.engadget.com/2005/09/19/blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-state-of-the-s-union-s-division/Dec 19th 2005 1:06AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/09/19/blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-state-of-the-s-union-s-division/http://www.engadget.com/2005/09/19/blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-state-of-the-s-union-s-division/
It's Blu-ray for me - Based on the stats and the support alone!

Blu-ray will go far...]]>Dec 19th 2005 1:06AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/09/19/blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-state-of-the-s-union-s-division/http://www.engadget.com/2005/09/19/blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-state-of-the-s-union-s-division/
Also, the cost difference is a moot point. The cost will drop due to economies of scale (Sony has said that the cost difference between HD-DVD and Blue-Ray will be negligible by release).

I haven't played with HD-DVD, but I have had the opportunity to use a Blue-Ray DVD RW drive. The way that it re-writes to discs is also much like Minidisc; it simply rewrites the TOC instead of making you wait through wiping the entire disc (just a whole lot faster). Sony claims that the read and write speed will increase with the next generation of drives, so it might be more like a super reliable modern Zip Disk (or Syquest if you remember those).]]>Dec 19th 2005 1:06AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/09/19/blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-state-of-the-s-union-s-division/http://www.engadget.com/2005/09/19/blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-state-of-the-s-union-s-division/Dec 19th 2005 1:06AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/09/19/blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-state-of-the-s-union-s-division/http://www.engadget.com/2005/09/19/blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-state-of-the-s-union-s-division/Dec 19th 2005 1:06AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/09/19/blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-state-of-the-s-union-s-division/http://www.engadget.com/2005/09/19/blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-state-of-the-s-union-s-division/
How did you think you get Terminator 1 and Alien and all the rest on DVD!]]>Dec 19th 2005 1:06AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/09/19/blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-state-of-the-s-union-s-division/http://www.engadget.com/2005/09/19/blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-state-of-the-s-union-s-division/Dec 19th 2005 1:06AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/09/19/blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-state-of-the-s-union-s-division/http://www.engadget.com/2005/09/19/blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-state-of-the-s-union-s-division/Dec 19th 2005 1:06AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/09/19/blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-state-of-the-s-union-s-division/http://www.engadget.com/2005/09/19/blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-state-of-the-s-union-s-division/
Although I am an Xbox guy - if I can have HD movies AND a game console in one - I will do that. Even if I buy an xbox360 I will still buy the PS3 instead of a Blu-Ray player becouse of the cost factor - plus I get to play PS3 games.

Someone at Toshiba should be getting fired for not shoe hammering an HD-DVD drive into xbox 360. They should have given Microsoft the drives for free.]]>Dec 19th 2005 1:06AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/09/19/blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-state-of-the-s-union-s-division/http://www.engadget.com/2005/09/19/blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-state-of-the-s-union-s-division/I was really shopping for a blue ray,until I SAW A HD DVD player & disks in the same store were i was shopping for a blue ray products.So I need help to deside were Iam at. 6 mounth ago I brought a 40" Samsung full HD 1080P MODEL LN-T4085F. SO please help me to deside,and which of the two is better quily and picture. ]]>Dec 13th 2007 10:12AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/09/19/blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-state-of-the-s-union-s-division/http://www.engadget.com/2005/09/19/blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-state-of-the-s-union-s-division/Dec 19th 2005 1:06AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/09/19/blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-state-of-the-s-union-s-division/http://www.engadget.com/2005/09/19/blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-state-of-the-s-union-s-division/Dec 19th 2005 1:06AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/09/19/blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-state-of-the-s-union-s-division/http://www.engadget.com/2005/09/19/blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-state-of-the-s-union-s-division/Dec 19th 2005 1:06AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/09/19/blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-state-of-the-s-union-s-division/http://www.engadget.com/2005/09/19/blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-state-of-the-s-union-s-division/
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Best Regards]]>Dec 28th 2007 11:08AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/09/19/blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-state-of-the-s-union-s-division/http://www.engadget.com/2005/09/19/blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-state-of-the-s-union-s-division/
1. PS3 has no official launch date (could be 2007 even). There are no Blu-Ray players outside of Japan and won't be for some time. Toshiba has stated you'll be seeing HD-DVD ROMs in their laptop by the end of the year and stand alone players either the end of the year or the first of next.

2. The only reason Sony won't compromise is because they want blue lasers to be cheap, so they can leverage their patents on GLV.

3. There's a bit too much emphasis on which game console is using what. The majority of people who are actually buying HD sets right now don't play video games. Maybe their kids do, but they don't. I know of no one outside of a college campus using their game system as their DVD player.]]>Dec 19th 2005 1:06AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/09/19/blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-state-of-the-s-union-s-division/http://www.engadget.com/2005/09/19/blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-state-of-the-s-union-s-division/
Any movie shot on film can be re-scanned at HD resolutions so the only thing slowing down the availability of older movies will be the studios desire to re-scan their entire back catalog. Some forward thinking studios scanned their films at HD (or higher) resolutions when they first converted their films to DVD. These companies will be first to act when rolling out HD content.

Movies shot digitally may or may not be easily HD-ified. "Star Wars Episode II" was shot at 1080P whereas "28 Days Later" was mostly shot on a Canon XL-1S which only captures 530 lines; far lower than the 720 needed for HD. Interlacing will also be an issue. Non-HD digital movies will need to be upscaled and de-interlaced and may not see much improvement.

(I hope I'm proved wrong on this, as I would love to see a 1080P version of "28 Days Later".)]]>Dec 19th 2005 1:06AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/09/19/blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-state-of-the-s-union-s-division/http://www.engadget.com/2005/09/19/blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-state-of-the-s-union-s-division/Dec 19th 2005 1:06AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/09/19/blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-state-of-the-s-union-s-division/http://www.engadget.com/2005/09/19/blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-state-of-the-s-union-s-division/
"Most movies, certainly ones from the 80s, were recorded on high-definition film"

Um, most movies, since the down of time, were recorded on film, which is an analog medium. 35mm or better has greater (arguably much greater) resolution than 1080p, but it still has to be transferred to the digital realm. A proper high definition transfer is expensive and time consuming. Many old 35mm films, and even some 60s and 70s films are in 70mm (which is ultra-high definition compared to 80s 35mm) are at risk of being partially or totally lost because the 'high definition' media is degrading and there's just not enough time and money to restore them all.]]>Dec 19th 2005 1:06AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/09/19/blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-state-of-the-s-union-s-division/http://www.engadget.com/2005/09/19/blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-state-of-the-s-union-s-division/
If "28 Days Later" was shot with 530 lines of resolution, wouldn't you notice the degraded resolution quality in big screen of a theater (I saw this movie in the theater the first time around, and I didn't notice a difference in picture quality--but then again, it was a while ago and my memory is a bit hazy about the pic. quality; maybe my memory is hazy because of hazy picture quality?? Now I'm confused...and lost...and alone....Hello?)

BK

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I think that the future of media is in streaming content, not in a disc based medium. To me it seems like alot of money to be investing in a new product that isnt really that innovative. More space isnt that exciting, to me a vod service with hd content is the the next big step.]]>Dec 19th 2005 1:06AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/09/19/blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-state-of-the-s-union-s-division/http://www.engadget.com/2005/09/19/blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-state-of-the-s-union-s-division/]]>Dec 19th 2005 1:06AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/09/19/blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-state-of-the-s-union-s-division/http://www.engadget.com/2005/09/19/blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-state-of-the-s-union-s-division/Dec 19th 2005 1:06AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/09/19/blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-state-of-the-s-union-s-division/http://www.engadget.com/2005/09/19/blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-state-of-the-s-union-s-division/Dec 19th 2005 1:06AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/09/19/blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-state-of-the-s-union-s-division/http://www.engadget.com/2005/09/19/blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-state-of-the-s-union-s-division/Dec 19th 2005 1:06AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/09/19/blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-state-of-the-s-union-s-division/http://www.engadget.com/2005/09/19/blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-state-of-the-s-union-s-division/
Right.....

We were promised fiber to the curb 10 years ago and it has not materialized yet.

Even if you had a 20mb/ps download speed on a next generation cable modem or DSL it would take you FOREVER to download a 20-40GB HD movie with 5.1 digital sound. Not to mention that people like to archive their movies and be able to pop them in and look at them whenever they like. Even if hard drives continue to double in size every couple of years, it's gonna be a mightly long time before multi terrabyte arrays are considered "affordable" for the masses.]]>Dec 19th 2005 1:06AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/09/19/blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-state-of-the-s-union-s-division/http://www.engadget.com/2005/09/19/blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-state-of-the-s-union-s-division/Dec 19th 2005 1:06AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/09/19/blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-state-of-the-s-union-s-division/http://www.engadget.com/2005/09/19/blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-state-of-the-s-union-s-division/Dec 19th 2005 1:06AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/09/19/blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-state-of-the-s-union-s-division/http://www.engadget.com/2005/09/19/blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-state-of-the-s-union-s-division/Dec 19th 2005 1:06AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/09/19/blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-state-of-the-s-union-s-division/http://www.engadget.com/2005/09/19/blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-state-of-the-s-union-s-division/
I remember reading about a company that many Hollywood studios have outsourced their digitization too that pulls the images off standard film at a resolution that is twice the 1920x1080 size (i don't feel like doing the math). They are being stored as raw files so the studios can use whatever the latest software is at the time to remove film scratches and increase clarity/contrast/lighting.]]>Dec 19th 2005 1:06AM