http://www.engadget.com/2006/01/13/micromemo-adds-16-bit-recording-to-ipod/ Engadget Comments for MicroMemo adds 16-bit recording to iPod http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2006/01/13/micromemo-adds-16-bit-recording-to-ipod/http://www.engadget.com/2006/01/13/micromemo-adds-16-bit-recording-to-ipod/
In fact, i came back here to mention just that. It's still a bit steep, but the fact that it plugs into the dock portion instead of sitting on top of the hold button like the iTalk did is WAY better.

also, resolution is reference to bitrate. it would be incorrect to say sample resolution. sample rate is how many samples it uses for ever second of music (rate of samples / second in Hz is ok i guess..).. bit resolution is how many bits each sample takes up.]]>Feb 9th 2006 12:28AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/01/13/micromemo-adds-16-bit-recording-to-ipod/http://www.engadget.com/2006/01/13/micromemo-adds-16-bit-recording-to-ipod/Mar 7th 2006 2:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/01/13/micromemo-adds-16-bit-recording-to-ipod/http://www.engadget.com/2006/01/13/micromemo-adds-16-bit-recording-to-ipod/Mar 24th 2006 8:14AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/01/13/micromemo-adds-16-bit-recording-to-ipod/http://www.engadget.com/2006/01/13/micromemo-adds-16-bit-recording-to-ipod/May 30th 2006 8:40AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/01/13/micromemo-adds-16-bit-recording-to-ipod/http://www.engadget.com/2006/01/13/micromemo-adds-16-bit-recording-to-ipod/
As for the iRiver: The last DAP of theirs worth bragging about was the H140; I happen to own two and use them constantly with Rockbox firmware. The FM radio is lackluster and so is the internal mic, which picks up so much noise from the hard drive that its recording capabilities are useless. Using an external mic, however, the H140 sounds better without phantom power than a Sony M-1 DAT.

The features that make the H140 one-of-a-kind: optical ins and outs, 44.1-48k digital/analog mic/lin recording, complete drag-and-drop freedom (unlike Hi-MD or the iPod). These last features are the reason I picked up two (at a 60% discount) while I had the chance.

I've heard the Cowan X5 as well as the Zen Vision:M and various Archos players. Most are more convenient to use on a PC than an iPod (no software needed), but none sound better than the iPod 4/5G as pure playback devices. What's more, the iPod 4G twice as good as everything else after the RedWine Audio iMod -- no point in disagreeing and proving yourself an unempirical imbecile until you've acutally heard it. Yes, the mod is pricey, and that is a concern. Yes, the form factor of the iPod Photo is no longer sleek enough for non-retro gadget fetishist, But hey, I thought the lot of you were out to prove how superior you were to mindless consumers by not choosing the iPod video. Perhaps you should read Adorno in your spare time and learn that rebellion becomes mindless consumerism when it is marketed as a consumer option.

As for the 3G with iPod/Linux (i.e., Podzilla): To record, one needs to create a line-in dock from the standard dock accessories. At the moment, no DIY people on Head-fi, the iPod Linux forums or anywhere else are offering to build line-in docks (line-out builders are legion). Thus, the Linux recording option is vaporware for most, as the mic out on the 3G iPod is fatally noisy and thin. Besides: if most users were able to mod existing dock parts to create recording devices, Griffin, Belkin and MicroMemo wouldn't be in business.

Whether or not a 5G with Belkin/Griffin/XtremeMac audio solution is worth picking up remains to be seen and will have nothing to do with the unempirical false conclusions on display here.

I'm posting as a user who has been a professional musician for years and has owned and used several DAPs. It would be nice if people posted intelligent responses occasionally rather than bashing the most popular DAP as if it were a blonde in a club who'd blown them off. I'd wait to evaluate any of these latest 44.1 mic/line adapters until reports arrive as to (1) how each adapter sounds, (2) how well Apple's recording implementation works and (3) whether there are any glitches or shortcomings *in practice* that might make the iPod impractical for stereo field recording. A 30-60gb hard drive recorder is definitely preferable to a 1GB flash memory recording]]>Jun 10th 2006 5:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/01/13/micromemo-adds-16-bit-recording-to-ipod/http://www.engadget.com/2006/01/13/micromemo-adds-16-bit-recording-to-ipod/
As for the iRiver: The last DAP of theirs worth bragging about was the H140; I happen to own two and use them constantly with Rockbox firmware. The FM radio is lackluster and so is the internal mic, which picks up so much noise from the hard drive that its recording capabilities are useless. Using an external mic, however, the H140 sounds better without phantom power than a Sony M-1 DAT.

The features that make the H140 one-of-a-kind: optical ins and outs, 44.1-48k digital/analog mic/lin recording, complete drag-and-drop freedom (unlike Hi-MD or the iPod). These last features are the reason I picked up two (at a 60% discount) while I had the chance.

I've heard the Cowan X5 as well as the Zen Vision:M and various Archos players. Most are more convenient to use on a PC than an iPod (no software needed), but none sound better than the iPod 4/5G as pure playback devices. What's more, the iPod 4G twice as good as everything else after the RedWine Audio iMod -- no point in disagreeing and proving yourself an unempirical imbecile until you've acutally heard it. Yes, the mod is pricey, and that is a concern. Yes, the form factor of the iPod Photo is no longer sleek enough for non-retro gadget fetishist, But hey, I thought the lot of you were out to prove how superior you were to mindless consumers by not choosing the iPod video. Perhaps you should read Adorno in your spare time and learn that rebellion becomes mindless consumerism when it is marketed as a consumer option.

As for the 3G with iPod/Linux (i.e., Podzilla): To record, one needs to create a line-in dock from the standard dock accessories. At the moment, no DIY people on Head-fi, the iPod Linux forums or anywhere else are offering to build line-in docks (line-out builders are legion). Thus, the Linux recording option is vaporware for most, as the mic out on the 3G iPod is fatally noisy and thin. Besides: if most users were able to mod existing dock parts to create recording devices, Griffin, Belkin and MicroMemo wouldn't be in business.

Whether or not a 5G with Belkin/Griffin/XtremeMac audio solution is worth picking up remains to be seen and will have nothing to do with the unempirical false conclusions on display here.

I'm posting as a user who has been a professional musician for years and has owned and used several DAPs. It would be nice if people posted intelligent responses occasionally rather than bashing the most popular DAP as if it were a blonde in a club who'd blown them off. I'd wait to evaluate any of these latest 44.1 mic/line adapters until reports arrive as to (1) how each adapter sounds, (2) how well Apple's recording implementation works and (3) whether there are any glitches or shortcomings *in practice* that might make the iPod impractical for stereo field recording. A 30-60gb hard drive recorder is definitely preferable to a 1GB flash memory recording.]]>Jun 10th 2006 5:59PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/01/13/micromemo-adds-16-bit-recording-to-ipod/http://www.engadget.com/2006/01/13/micromemo-adds-16-bit-recording-to-ipod/Aug 26th 2006 12:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/01/13/micromemo-adds-16-bit-recording-to-ipod/http://www.engadget.com/2006/01/13/micromemo-adds-16-bit-recording-to-ipod/Aug 17th 2006 9:09AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/01/13/micromemo-adds-16-bit-recording-to-ipod/http://www.engadget.com/2006/01/13/micromemo-adds-16-bit-recording-to-ipod/Jan 13th 2006 5:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/01/13/micromemo-adds-16-bit-recording-to-ipod/http://www.engadget.com/2006/01/13/micromemo-adds-16-bit-recording-to-ipod/Jan 13th 2006 5:44PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/01/13/micromemo-adds-16-bit-recording-to-ipod/http://www.engadget.com/2006/01/13/micromemo-adds-16-bit-recording-to-ipod/Jan 13th 2006 5:49PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/01/13/micromemo-adds-16-bit-recording-to-ipod/http://www.engadget.com/2006/01/13/micromemo-adds-16-bit-recording-to-ipod/


Sorry, my iRiver has been doing this for years, for free. Oh yeah, it also had video years before the iPOS as well.]]>Jan 13th 2006 5:57PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/01/13/micromemo-adds-16-bit-recording-to-ipod/http://www.engadget.com/2006/01/13/micromemo-adds-16-bit-recording-to-ipod/Jan 13th 2006 6:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/01/13/micromemo-adds-16-bit-recording-to-ipod/http://www.engadget.com/2006/01/13/micromemo-adds-16-bit-recording-to-ipod/Jan 13th 2006 6:52PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/01/13/micromemo-adds-16-bit-recording-to-ipod/http://www.engadget.com/2006/01/13/micromemo-adds-16-bit-recording-to-ipod/Jan 13th 2006 7:12PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/01/13/micromemo-adds-16-bit-recording-to-ipod/http://www.engadget.com/2006/01/13/micromemo-adds-16-bit-recording-to-ipod/


Hopefully Griffintechnology ( http://www.griffintechnology.com ) will make a recording device that doesn't cost $80... It's almost guaranteed that they will (they had a recorder for the previous iPods...)]]>Jan 13th 2006 8:01PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/01/13/micromemo-adds-16-bit-recording-to-ipod/http://www.engadget.com/2006/01/13/micromemo-adds-16-bit-recording-to-ipod/Jan 13th 2006 8:14PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/01/13/micromemo-adds-16-bit-recording-to-ipod/http://www.engadget.com/2006/01/13/micromemo-adds-16-bit-recording-to-ipod/


I'm still waiting for the CBShark for my notebook computer.]]>Jan 13th 2006 8:21PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/01/13/micromemo-adds-16-bit-recording-to-ipod/http://www.engadget.com/2006/01/13/micromemo-adds-16-bit-recording-to-ipod/


The iRiver interface has the best UI I've seen on an mp3 player. And it works when you have gloves on.]]>Jan 13th 2006 9:53PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/01/13/micromemo-adds-16-bit-recording-to-ipod/http://www.engadget.com/2006/01/13/micromemo-adds-16-bit-recording-to-ipod/


P.S.

Its got anywhere from 7 to 10 hours of battery life on constant Video playback. 16-18 on Audio.]]>Jan 14th 2006 1:08AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/01/13/micromemo-adds-16-bit-recording-to-ipod/http://www.engadget.com/2006/01/13/micromemo-adds-16-bit-recording-to-ipod/


http://ilounge.com/index.php/articles/comments/macworld-expo-2006-report-part-1/



very exciting that these type of products are showing up - i have been waiing forever.]]>Jan 14th 2006 1:32AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/01/13/micromemo-adds-16-bit-recording-to-ipod/http://www.engadget.com/2006/01/13/micromemo-adds-16-bit-recording-to-ipod/Jan 14th 2006 1:48AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/01/13/micromemo-adds-16-bit-recording-to-ipod/http://www.engadget.com/2006/01/13/micromemo-adds-16-bit-recording-to-ipod/Jan 14th 2006 1:48AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/01/13/micromemo-adds-16-bit-recording-to-ipod/http://www.engadget.com/2006/01/13/micromemo-adds-16-bit-recording-to-ipod/
a device for recording available in about a month.



Apple should have made sure you could record when

the 5G was launched. It has been frustrating not being able to record with it.]]>Jan 14th 2006 5:51AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/01/13/micromemo-adds-16-bit-recording-to-ipod/http://www.engadget.com/2006/01/13/micromemo-adds-16-bit-recording-to-ipod/Jan 14th 2006 8:09PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/01/13/micromemo-adds-16-bit-recording-to-ipod/http://www.engadget.com/2006/01/13/micromemo-adds-16-bit-recording-to-ipod/


/fanboy]]>Jan 14th 2006 9:04PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/01/13/micromemo-adds-16-bit-recording-to-ipod/http://www.engadget.com/2006/01/13/micromemo-adds-16-bit-recording-to-ipod/Jan 14th 2006 9:38PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/01/13/micromemo-adds-16-bit-recording-to-ipod/http://www.engadget.com/2006/01/13/micromemo-adds-16-bit-recording-to-ipod/


"Sampling rate" not "frequency". Even "resolution" would be more appropriate.



Although literally, "frequency" is "how frequent", thus "as frequent as 44100 times a second" -- "frequency" is the term for an electromagnetic oscillation that you tune into.



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The sampling frequency or sampling rate defines the number of samples per second taken from a continuous signal to make a discrete signal. [Wikipedia: Sampling Frequency]



I'm sure I misunderstand you, but surely you are not arguing against the use of the word "frequency" when it comes to sampling theory??



Sure, frequency is a term for electromagnetic oscillations, but it's more general than that. I think I misunderstand you.]]>Jan 15th 2006 9:08PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/01/13/micromemo-adds-16-bit-recording-to-ipod/http://www.engadget.com/2006/01/13/micromemo-adds-16-bit-recording-to-ipod/"http://extrememac.com/audio/earphones_recorders/micromemo.php"
states ... "Uses iPod high-fidelity recording (44 KHz/16 Bit - high quality recording)".

So, which is it ? 22 KHz or 44KHz ?

Anyone ? Anyone ? Fry ? Bueller ?
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