http://www.engadget.com/2006/01/24/core-duo-bugs-crisis-or-commonplace/ Engadget Comments for Core Duo bugs: crisis or commonplace? http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2006/01/24/core-duo-bugs-crisis-or-commonplace/http://www.engadget.com/2006/01/24/core-duo-bugs-crisis-or-commonplace/Jan 24th 2006 3:23PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/01/24/core-duo-bugs-crisis-or-commonplace/http://www.engadget.com/2006/01/24/core-duo-bugs-crisis-or-commonplace/Jan 24th 2006 3:24PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/01/24/core-duo-bugs-crisis-or-commonplace/http://www.engadget.com/2006/01/24/core-duo-bugs-crisis-or-commonplace/Jan 24th 2006 3:34PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/01/24/core-duo-bugs-crisis-or-commonplace/http://www.engadget.com/2006/01/24/core-duo-bugs-crisis-or-commonplace/
Redeem thyself Apple and invest in AMD :D]]>Jan 24th 2006 3:39PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/01/24/core-duo-bugs-crisis-or-commonplace/http://www.engadget.com/2006/01/24/core-duo-bugs-crisis-or-commonplace/Jan 24th 2006 3:39PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/01/24/core-duo-bugs-crisis-or-commonplace/http://www.engadget.com/2006/01/24/core-duo-bugs-crisis-or-commonplace/So how is all this news?]]>Jan 24th 2006 3:43PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/01/24/core-duo-bugs-crisis-or-commonplace/http://www.engadget.com/2006/01/24/core-duo-bugs-crisis-or-commonplace/Jan 24th 2006 3:51PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/01/24/core-duo-bugs-crisis-or-commonplace/http://www.engadget.com/2006/01/24/core-duo-bugs-crisis-or-commonplace/Jan 24th 2006 3:51PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/01/24/core-duo-bugs-crisis-or-commonplace/http://www.engadget.com/2006/01/24/core-duo-bugs-crisis-or-commonplace/
No room for mistakes - espexcially ones that become household names with a product like APPLE behind it.

Not that I personally have a use for either - but just saying ;)]]>Jan 24th 2006 3:58PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/01/24/core-duo-bugs-crisis-or-commonplace/http://www.engadget.com/2006/01/24/core-duo-bugs-crisis-or-commonplace/3 things,

1. Cooking
2. Heating a small apartment
3. cut the third thing]]>Jan 24th 2006 4:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/01/24/core-duo-bugs-crisis-or-commonplace/http://www.engadget.com/2006/01/24/core-duo-bugs-crisis-or-commonplace/
You mean like the one about the first gen Pentiums that he already mentioned?

With the complexity level of modern microprocessors, honestly it's kind of surprising that errors aren't more common than they are. I'm sick of people with absolutely no concept of what goes into the engineering of a successful project who rabidly slam a company for every slightest fault in a new product. Things escape the testing process, because you can't test for or even predict every single possible combination of contributing factors. That's why companies routinely revisit their products and work out the bugs over several generations.

To quote Dennis Nedry, "If you can find someone who can debug two million lines of code and interface eight connection machines for what I big for this job, I'd love to see him try."]]>Jan 24th 2006 4:20PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/01/24/core-duo-bugs-crisis-or-commonplace/http://www.engadget.com/2006/01/24/core-duo-bugs-crisis-or-commonplace/
Errate'>http://www-306.ibm.com/chips/techlib/techlib.nsf/techdocs/79B6E24422AA101287256E93006C957E

Errate for the G5 CPU. Lots of errors there too. ]]>Jan 24th 2006 4:22PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/01/24/core-duo-bugs-crisis-or-commonplace/http://www.engadget.com/2006/01/24/core-duo-bugs-crisis-or-commonplace/
And my message to the tech geeks who whine on and on about how some products don't conform to their elitist specifications should get off their arses and compete. Barriers to entry are fairly low these days, unless of course you want to build a fab plant - then you can whine to the tech-expert VCs....]]>Jan 24th 2006 4:24PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/01/24/core-duo-bugs-crisis-or-commonplace/http://www.engadget.com/2006/01/24/core-duo-bugs-crisis-or-commonplace/
Seriously. geek.com is a POS when it comes to nonbiased "reporting" and I use the term losely. ]]>Jan 24th 2006 4:34PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/01/24/core-duo-bugs-crisis-or-commonplace/http://www.engadget.com/2006/01/24/core-duo-bugs-crisis-or-commonplace/
but i know im going to cherish and prize my fabulous FIRST generation macbook. these critiques are so bloody PEDANTIC... im just like, why dont people want me to get this machine. its an amazing piece of hardware, like it or not, you jerkwads.]]>Jan 24th 2006 4:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/01/24/core-duo-bugs-crisis-or-commonplace/http://www.engadget.com/2006/01/24/core-duo-bugs-crisis-or-commonplace/
Silly fanboys...]]>Jan 24th 2006 5:45PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/01/24/core-duo-bugs-crisis-or-commonplace/http://www.engadget.com/2006/01/24/core-duo-bugs-crisis-or-commonplace/Jan 24th 2006 7:34PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/01/24/core-duo-bugs-crisis-or-commonplace/http://www.engadget.com/2006/01/24/core-duo-bugs-crisis-or-commonplace/
I must say, that I am extremely impressed, and also have not experienced any bugs. Mine is the 20" Core Duo iMac with the 2.0 Ghz processor.

I previously had a 17" with (I believe?) the 1.8 Ghz G5. That also worked superbly. I would say that this runs about the same speed, under Rosetta. Native Intel apps run much faster.

Solid as a rock. Experienced flakiness once with VLC, which can be flaky anyway. Pretty hard to run a media player that plays just about EVERY codec for every file type, while emulating for another processor without any problems. That said, other than the one flaky time in VLC, it's ran perfect every other time.

That and PocketMac for Blackberry isn't working yet, but they are fixing that. Awesome machine.]]>Jan 24th 2006 8:15PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/01/24/core-duo-bugs-crisis-or-commonplace/http://www.engadget.com/2006/01/24/core-duo-bugs-crisis-or-commonplace/Jan 25th 2006 1:34AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/01/24/core-duo-bugs-crisis-or-commonplace/http://www.engadget.com/2006/01/24/core-duo-bugs-crisis-or-commonplace/]]>Jan 25th 2006 2:59AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/01/24/core-duo-bugs-crisis-or-commonplace/http://www.engadget.com/2006/01/24/core-duo-bugs-crisis-or-commonplace/Jan 25th 2006 3:00AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/01/24/core-duo-bugs-crisis-or-commonplace/http://www.engadget.com/2006/01/24/core-duo-bugs-crisis-or-commonplace/
BTW I love your guys sense of humor. Taking in some Core Duo macs for extensive testing. That's why I love blogs like Engadget.]]>Jan 25th 2006 3:23AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/01/24/core-duo-bugs-crisis-or-commonplace/http://www.engadget.com/2006/01/24/core-duo-bugs-crisis-or-commonplace/
The only people that silicon errata affect is developers who code in assembly, and people who write compilers: They read the manufacturer's errata anyway, so they know how to avoid the problems.

There's no fuss to be made here at all.

ch424]]>Jan 25th 2006 6:03AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/01/24/core-duo-bugs-crisis-or-commonplace/http://www.engadget.com/2006/01/24/core-duo-bugs-crisis-or-commonplace/Jan 25th 2006 8:16AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/01/24/core-duo-bugs-crisis-or-commonplace/http://www.engadget.com/2006/01/24/core-duo-bugs-crisis-or-commonplace/Jan 25th 2006 8:23AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/01/24/core-duo-bugs-crisis-or-commonplace/http://www.engadget.com/2006/01/24/core-duo-bugs-crisis-or-commonplace/
I'd buy HT before DUAL/MULTI core CPU's any day.

The DUAL-CORE CPU is a crock. Unless the motherboard can handle it, there will be a bottleneck at the boad's bus. Then, in a year or so, Intel will come out with the "dual core 'aware' mobo" that YOU NEED TO BUY because it enhances the CPU's performance.

]]>Jan 25th 2006 10:35AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/01/24/core-duo-bugs-crisis-or-commonplace/http://www.engadget.com/2006/01/24/core-duo-bugs-crisis-or-commonplace/Jan 25th 2006 10:37AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/01/24/core-duo-bugs-crisis-or-commonplace/http://www.engadget.com/2006/01/24/core-duo-bugs-crisis-or-commonplace/
So neither side is really perfect TBH.]]>Jan 25th 2006 10:39AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/01/24/core-duo-bugs-crisis-or-commonplace/http://www.engadget.com/2006/01/24/core-duo-bugs-crisis-or-commonplace/Jan 25th 2006 11:24AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/01/24/core-duo-bugs-crisis-or-commonplace/http://www.engadget.com/2006/01/24/core-duo-bugs-crisis-or-commonplace/
Dude -- that new windows laptop you are eyeing has the same chip.... of course I guess you actually use AMD and are sore that Apple didn't pick them to run with.

Question for all: do the "__x faster claims" actually show how biased these "fair and balanced" benchmark tests are toward x86? Cause they say one thing now, but PowerPC seems to have actually been a little slighted given that the "__x faster" ain't quite there yet.

Appears the Spec tests are optimized for Intel chips, and real world performance doesn't quite relate on Intel chips. So that Pentium4 may not be as blazing as you think.... Good news for AMD as well.]]>Jan 25th 2006 11:24AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/01/24/core-duo-bugs-crisis-or-commonplace/http://www.engadget.com/2006/01/24/core-duo-bugs-crisis-or-commonplace/My main point is this - Sometimes Intel will be better, sometimes AMD will be better. But in terms of stability, the G4-G5 has ALWAYS been better, Macs are just much more advanced than PC's. So people, go with the flow. Don't be all uptight and so focused on one little thing.
That is just my two cents worth.]]>Jan 25th 2006 11:40AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/01/24/core-duo-bugs-crisis-or-commonplace/http://www.engadget.com/2006/01/24/core-duo-bugs-crisis-or-commonplace/Jan 25th 2006 3:11PM