http://www.engadget.com/2006/03/09/live-from-cebit-samsung-founder-asus-umpc-origami-devices/ Engadget Comments for Live from CeBIT: Samsung, Founder, ASUS UMPC / Origami devices http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2006/03/09/live-from-cebit-samsung-founder-asus-umpc-origami-devices/http://www.engadget.com/2006/03/09/live-from-cebit-samsung-founder-asus-umpc-origami-devices/Mar 9th 2006 3:54AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/03/09/live-from-cebit-samsung-founder-asus-umpc-origami-devices/http://www.engadget.com/2006/03/09/live-from-cebit-samsung-founder-asus-umpc-origami-devices/
I say it again: This device is 100% guaranteed chick-repellent material. A toy for people who can't find the world around them just quite fascinating enough. Get a laptop and do some work. Use a smart-fon if you have to, but this gizmodo-no should stay in a hospital. and it should stay made by Fujitsu.]]>Mar 9th 2006 3:54AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/03/09/live-from-cebit-samsung-founder-asus-umpc-origami-devices/http://www.engadget.com/2006/03/09/live-from-cebit-samsung-founder-asus-umpc-origami-devices/Mar 9th 2006 3:55AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/03/09/live-from-cebit-samsung-founder-asus-umpc-origami-devices/http://www.engadget.com/2006/03/09/live-from-cebit-samsung-founder-asus-umpc-origami-devices/Mar 9th 2006 3:55AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/03/09/live-from-cebit-samsung-founder-asus-umpc-origami-devices/http://www.engadget.com/2006/03/09/live-from-cebit-samsung-founder-asus-umpc-origami-devices/Mar 9th 2006 3:56AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/03/09/live-from-cebit-samsung-founder-asus-umpc-origami-devices/http://www.engadget.com/2006/03/09/live-from-cebit-samsung-founder-asus-umpc-origami-devices/it`s the old grey business like PC style. What a relief for (yet)
tabletless Apple users ;-)

]]>Mar 9th 2006 3:58AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/03/09/live-from-cebit-samsung-founder-asus-umpc-origami-devices/http://www.engadget.com/2006/03/09/live-from-cebit-samsung-founder-asus-umpc-origami-devices/Mar 9th 2006 4:02AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/03/09/live-from-cebit-samsung-founder-asus-umpc-origami-devices/http://www.engadget.com/2006/03/09/live-from-cebit-samsung-founder-asus-umpc-origami-devices/Might void the warranty though]]>Mar 9th 2006 4:07AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/03/09/live-from-cebit-samsung-founder-asus-umpc-origami-devices/http://www.engadget.com/2006/03/09/live-from-cebit-samsung-founder-asus-umpc-origami-devices/Mar 9th 2006 4:09AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/03/09/live-from-cebit-samsung-founder-asus-umpc-origami-devices/http://www.engadget.com/2006/03/09/live-from-cebit-samsung-founder-asus-umpc-origami-devices/
Well goodnight everyone, since i feel raped and used by microsoft im going to go take a shower... at least stick to the origami name you friggin idiots!!! that is what people know it as by now!]]>Mar 9th 2006 4:15AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/03/09/live-from-cebit-samsung-founder-asus-umpc-origami-devices/http://www.engadget.com/2006/03/09/live-from-cebit-samsung-founder-asus-umpc-origami-devices/
Posted at 4:09AM on Mar 9th 2006 by swaxtastic "

SHUT DA F UP!]]>Mar 9th 2006 4:21AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/03/09/live-from-cebit-samsung-founder-asus-umpc-origami-devices/http://www.engadget.com/2006/03/09/live-from-cebit-samsung-founder-asus-umpc-origami-devices/Mar 9th 2006 4:26AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/03/09/live-from-cebit-samsung-founder-asus-umpc-origami-devices/http://www.engadget.com/2006/03/09/live-from-cebit-samsung-founder-asus-umpc-origami-devices/
seriously, its just a tabletpc with a smaller screen and some added software.
]]>Mar 9th 2006 4:33AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/03/09/live-from-cebit-samsung-founder-asus-umpc-origami-devices/http://www.engadget.com/2006/03/09/live-from-cebit-samsung-founder-asus-umpc-origami-devices/
Compared to media players, iPods etc these devices have an OS, albeit Windows, which means I can run all kinds of programs. I could turn it into a media player, an organizer, a customer database. Whatever.

Sure, it doesn't look very trendy/fancy and it's rather big... but how can it be small and sleek when it needs to hold a 7" screen and a battery with proper capacity?

I'm sure Microsoft invested thousands of dollars to find out if there's market for these devices. Sure there is one.

Wireless WiFi VGA connection? Plug&Play keyboard/mouse connection with bluetooth? I could leave it in my rucksack and use it as a desktop PC or Media Center.

Yes, it has potential!]]>Mar 9th 2006 4:33AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/03/09/live-from-cebit-samsung-founder-asus-umpc-origami-devices/http://www.engadget.com/2006/03/09/live-from-cebit-samsung-founder-asus-umpc-origami-devices/Mar 9th 2006 4:35AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/03/09/live-from-cebit-samsung-founder-asus-umpc-origami-devices/http://www.engadget.com/2006/03/09/live-from-cebit-samsung-founder-asus-umpc-origami-devices/
1. it was called the "origami" project. now its called the UMPC and well, it doesnt matter if it has to do with folding or not. though there is a folding prototype i saw on cnbc...

2. usb ports ftw. cd/dvd drive would be excess bulk. and battery consumption. it should be able to handle mpeg4 avc anyways...

3. its quite a bit more powerful than any other commercial product of its size. now, the ones we see have celron m in them but maybe by the end of the year we will see ulv core duos or something.

4. it runs full win xp so you can have itunes on it if you want. or winamp. or vlc. or media player classic. or all of them at once. and itll be able to handle any file type and you'll never have a problem with not being able to find video codecs cause theres binarys for them already. no more format conversion either. oh, and it can play non-drm stuff!

5. because its XP and not some super special os, you will be able to put your favorite software (firefox, openoffice, etc etc.) on it.

6. and people thought the video ipod had a large screen...

7. omg its not called the origami anymore...

*ooh it looks like the asus has a built in camera. and they all appear to have card readers. ]]>Mar 9th 2006 4:37AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/03/09/live-from-cebit-samsung-founder-asus-umpc-origami-devices/http://www.engadget.com/2006/03/09/live-from-cebit-samsung-founder-asus-umpc-origami-devices/Mar 9th 2006 4:50AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/03/09/live-from-cebit-samsung-founder-asus-umpc-origami-devices/http://www.engadget.com/2006/03/09/live-from-cebit-samsung-founder-asus-umpc-origami-devices/Now with 120Gb now and 160Gb this year, this could be very appealing. But if there's only space for a single platter 1.8" this is very limiting.

The other big factor is the expansion available. PCMCIA? SD? Or is all we've got the single USB port?]]>Mar 9th 2006 4:59AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/03/09/live-from-cebit-samsung-founder-asus-umpc-origami-devices/http://www.engadget.com/2006/03/09/live-from-cebit-samsung-founder-asus-umpc-origami-devices/
I'm not feeling the vibe here. ]]>Mar 9th 2006 5:00AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/03/09/live-from-cebit-samsung-founder-asus-umpc-origami-devices/http://www.engadget.com/2006/03/09/live-from-cebit-samsung-founder-asus-umpc-origami-devices/
hmm.. i stay up till morning for news that gonna-be until now.

]]>Mar 9th 2006 5:00AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/03/09/live-from-cebit-samsung-founder-asus-umpc-origami-devices/http://www.engadget.com/2006/03/09/live-from-cebit-samsung-founder-asus-umpc-origami-devices/
Didn't Samsung and iRiver have similar things in 2004/2005? or are these totally different gizmos?]]>Mar 9th 2006 5:42AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/03/09/live-from-cebit-samsung-founder-asus-umpc-origami-devices/http://www.engadget.com/2006/03/09/live-from-cebit-samsung-founder-asus-umpc-origami-devices/Mar 9th 2006 6:33AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/03/09/live-from-cebit-samsung-founder-asus-umpc-origami-devices/http://www.engadget.com/2006/03/09/live-from-cebit-samsung-founder-asus-umpc-origami-devices/Mar 9th 2006 7:10AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/03/09/live-from-cebit-samsung-founder-asus-umpc-origami-devices/http://www.engadget.com/2006/03/09/live-from-cebit-samsung-founder-asus-umpc-origami-devices/
meanwhile OQO exists for two years and has been a poor selling product, but, it was expensive... we now look for the comodotization of this kind of appliance, with competition and price drops

Man it's uggly!]]>Mar 9th 2006 7:19AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/03/09/live-from-cebit-samsung-founder-asus-umpc-origami-devices/http://www.engadget.com/2006/03/09/live-from-cebit-samsung-founder-asus-umpc-origami-devices/Mar 9th 2006 8:15AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/03/09/live-from-cebit-samsung-founder-asus-umpc-origami-devices/http://www.engadget.com/2006/03/09/live-from-cebit-samsung-founder-asus-umpc-origami-devices/Mar 9th 2006 8:18AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/03/09/live-from-cebit-samsung-founder-asus-umpc-origami-devices/http://www.engadget.com/2006/03/09/live-from-cebit-samsung-founder-asus-umpc-origami-devices/
I wonder what the batery life is with Wifi and Bluetooth enabled......]]>Mar 9th 2006 9:07AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/03/09/live-from-cebit-samsung-founder-asus-umpc-origami-devices/http://www.engadget.com/2006/03/09/live-from-cebit-samsung-founder-asus-umpc-origami-devices/Mar 9th 2006 9:11AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/03/09/live-from-cebit-samsung-founder-asus-umpc-origami-devices/http://www.engadget.com/2006/03/09/live-from-cebit-samsung-founder-asus-umpc-origami-devices/]]>Mar 9th 2006 9:40AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/03/09/live-from-cebit-samsung-founder-asus-umpc-origami-devices/http://www.engadget.com/2006/03/09/live-from-cebit-samsung-founder-asus-umpc-origami-devices/
Like someone stated earlier, the ability to run full Windows will make this transcend all codecs, from Apple iTunes, to ATRAC, to Divx, to anything you could have a codec for... No more give and take with which media player to get because of which media store you want to shop at, or which is the easier to hack to get it to do what you want..

I'll be first in line for the ASUS one, although I like the Sammy as well.. I'll probably end up waiting for the Vista version though, but as soon as we get more definites, dimensions, price, weight, etc.. I'll be building a mount in my car for this :D :D I currently have a Mac Mini in there with a 7" touch screen, but always have to worry about it when I have to park somewhere shady, or when it's really hot & humid out.. Not to mention all of the crap I had to through to actually get it all to fit in my car.. This sounds like it will be cheaper than buying the Mac Mini, Power Converter (DC to DC), 7" LCD touchscreen, mounting hardware, USB hub, etc. etc. etc. I spent about $1500 in total on this when all was said and done, and more than a few weekends tinkering.. Imagine just getting a mount that this would clip into that would feed from 12V power source, and that's it.. I'd happily spend $1500 on that, at least I wouldn't have to cut my car up again and disassemble the entire interior..

eric]]>Mar 9th 2006 9:57AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/03/09/live-from-cebit-samsung-founder-asus-umpc-origami-devices/http://www.engadget.com/2006/03/09/live-from-cebit-samsung-founder-asus-umpc-origami-devices/
i love umpc... coz i'm student who needs to take notes @ class and im also a pt fotographer that need some basic foto storage/display/editing + GPS device... umpc does all these to me perfectly... 3 hrs batt life might be short.. but hell why not carry more batts coz they aint gonna be that big as ur god darned 17" powerbooks...

apple is now left behind.. with the power of intel and bill, wat steve can do... he'd tried his best bt thats wat apple got...

the actual device will be out Q2, so by that time unless Apple announce sth like UMMac with Intel Core Duo, im goin to grab one of the top models of UMPB...

god i dun care how much it is... i jst want sth small , with a readable screen (PDA?Smartfone = real crap) and have certain processing power....

u ppl jst sxxt up and play ur desktop at home... !]]>Mar 9th 2006 10:44AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/03/09/live-from-cebit-samsung-founder-asus-umpc-origami-devices/http://www.engadget.com/2006/03/09/live-from-cebit-samsung-founder-asus-umpc-origami-devices/
Let's see. More powerful than a PDA, smaller and lighter than a laptop. Able to run full apps. I don't play games, I work on web and MS Office. PERFECT! This is a solution for the mobile computer user. You think The CEO's don't know what consumers want That is odd since they themselves are part of the target market. Most users are not going to frag party and don't need more horsepower, just portability. This might not fit my exact needs but I think it fits a lot of other's.]]>Mar 9th 2006 11:42AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/03/09/live-from-cebit-samsung-founder-asus-umpc-origami-devices/http://www.engadget.com/2006/03/09/live-from-cebit-samsung-founder-asus-umpc-origami-devices/
The 2 key points for me are battery life, and syncing w/ other machines.

FWIW I think this development is totally the wrong direction. We should not be continuing to shrink the PC, but coming up with thin clients and robust connections to central personal servers.]]>Mar 9th 2006 11:52AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/03/09/live-from-cebit-samsung-founder-asus-umpc-origami-devices/http://www.engadget.com/2006/03/09/live-from-cebit-samsung-founder-asus-umpc-origami-devices/
GPS? Built in or bluetooth?
Camera?
WiFi?
Use with Pressure Sensitive stylus?
Barcode scanner (for inventory control?)
Media Playback?
How much storage?
Um a tellyphone?

Some of these features could be added via a card slot, if the features can be added, or are built in, without popping the thing into four figure land (hopefully not even approaching that), there might be something to it.

Otherwise Phones and Laptops will crowd it out, because it is too bulky to use as notepad, without having USEFUL notepad functionality as noted.

My PSP still seems more attractive.
]]>Mar 9th 2006 12:59PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/03/09/live-from-cebit-samsung-founder-asus-umpc-origami-devices/http://www.engadget.com/2006/03/09/live-from-cebit-samsung-founder-asus-umpc-origami-devices/
http://www.windowsfordevices.com/files/misc/creative-pmc-big.jpg

Basically the only one worth considering is the Asus. I think it would help everyone to put the other two out of their minds because I admit it's impossible to even think of carrying that one by Founder along (who the hell are they anyway?)]]>Mar 9th 2006 1:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/03/09/live-from-cebit-samsung-founder-asus-umpc-origami-devices/http://www.engadget.com/2006/03/09/live-from-cebit-samsung-founder-asus-umpc-origami-devices/
The video iPod might have a smaller screen, but I'd assume it will be able to play atleast one movie?

On a personal level, if it's too big to carry in a pocket, then you've got to have some sort of bag for it when you carry it around. If i've got to carry a bag with me, is this product that much better than just carrying a laptop around with me? No touchscreen interface is going to be good enough to replace a keyboard (at this point atleast).

I can see where this product might find its niche... just like previous Tablet PCs. I don't think this will find mass appeal like MS has been promising however. I think that this is a good product, just nothing revolutionary. If this product had built in GPS and bluetooth, some sort of cellular service capability (EV-DO, UMTS, etc.), and a battery life of 6 or 7 hours with the screen on... everyone would buy one. I realize thats a pipe dream at this point.

As always, battery technology is what's holding back everything else.]]>Mar 9th 2006 1:21PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/03/09/live-from-cebit-samsung-founder-asus-umpc-origami-devices/http://www.engadget.com/2006/03/09/live-from-cebit-samsung-founder-asus-umpc-origami-devices/
The new Origami products are not anymore portable than a 15" notebook in that it doesn't fit into a pocket (unconcious portability) and has to be carried in a bag.

And, without a transflective display, these things are useless outside (despite everyone's fantasy of working on the beach).]]>Mar 9th 2006 2:04PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/03/09/live-from-cebit-samsung-founder-asus-umpc-origami-devices/http://www.engadget.com/2006/03/09/live-from-cebit-samsung-founder-asus-umpc-origami-devices/
I mean will you spend $300 on something that does what you need or $800 on something that does more than you need? The more isn't worth it to me. Now if they can sell it for the same price as a 770 then it will definitely be a winner.]]>Mar 9th 2006 2:29PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/03/09/live-from-cebit-samsung-founder-asus-umpc-origami-devices/http://www.engadget.com/2006/03/09/live-from-cebit-samsung-founder-asus-umpc-origami-devices/
It's too small and not powerful enough to be a laptop. No keyboard or vga adaptor. And it's too big to be a PDA or phone. This niche product will be the biggest flop for Microsoft in recent years and the small pda/phone/camera is where the market will eventually go.]]>Mar 9th 2006 3:22PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/03/09/live-from-cebit-samsung-founder-asus-umpc-origami-devices/http://www.engadget.com/2006/03/09/live-from-cebit-samsung-founder-asus-umpc-origami-devices/
Sony Vaio U8G $1825.00 USD
Model:
Sony VGN-U8G

Processor:
900MHz Celeron-M
Intel 855 GM

L1/L2 Cache:
64K 2MB CPU

RAM/ Memory Bus:
256MB (512MB Max)

Hard Drive:
20GB

Optical Drive:
None

Floppy Drive:
None

Video Card/RAM:
64MB Shared System Memory

Display/ Resolution:
5" SVGA TFT
800x600, 16 Million Colors
1600x1280, 16 Million Colors (External)

Audio:
PCM 16-Bit

Inputs/ Outputs:
One (1) USB 2.0
One (1) Memory Stick® Slot
One (1) CF Card Slot
One (1) Headphone/Line Out

With Dock attached...
One (1) VGA Port
One (1) RJ-54 Ethernet/LAN Port
One (1) iLink (Firewire)
Four (4) USB 2.0


Wireless Connections:
802.11b/g WiFi

Keyboard:
(Attachable) QWERTY 87, 17mm Pitch, 2mm Keystroke, Trackpoint (Pointing Stick)

Battery:
2.5 Hrs (Standard)
5.5 Hrs (Enhanced)

AC Adaptor:
24 Watt, 100-240V, 50-60Hz

Dimensions:
6.57" x 4.25" x 1.03"
(167 x 108 x 26.4mm)

Weight:
1.21lbs. (0.55kg)

Software:
Windows XP Home

http://www.kemplar.com/sony_u8g.php
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If a keyboard is pretty much the only difference, why on Earth would anyone pay over £1300 for a Dell X1 or Sony Vaio with a 10" screen when you could have a lighter, more compact device for probably half the price. Crazy..

Only bummer, is the battery life - such a shame. It would be a killer device if it had better battery and to be honest it's a shame they didnt do better with the technology. My laptop again only uses an ULV 1.1 GHz CPU (And a larger screen than a UMPC) and gets about 4 hours battery life on average.

I'll be getting one anyway.]]>Mar 21st 2006 2:45PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/03/09/live-from-cebit-samsung-founder-asus-umpc-origami-devices/http://www.engadget.com/2006/03/09/live-from-cebit-samsung-founder-asus-umpc-origami-devices/tons more features! qwerty and all to boot!]]>Aug 10th 2006 11:15PM