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This looks like it'll be extremely noisy and heat-generating. Oh well, I suppose for that kind of power, that's not such a big deal...]]>Mar 13th 2006 7:09PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/03/13/tyan-typhoon-stuffs-16-cores-into-desktop-supercomputer/http://www.engadget.com/2006/03/13/tyan-typhoon-stuffs-16-cores-into-desktop-supercomputer/Mar 13th 2006 7:21PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/03/13/tyan-typhoon-stuffs-16-cores-into-desktop-supercomputer/http://www.engadget.com/2006/03/13/tyan-typhoon-stuffs-16-cores-into-desktop-supercomputer/Mar 13th 2006 7:22PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/03/13/tyan-typhoon-stuffs-16-cores-into-desktop-supercomputer/http://www.engadget.com/2006/03/13/tyan-typhoon-stuffs-16-cores-into-desktop-supercomputer/Mar 13th 2006 7:23PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/03/13/tyan-typhoon-stuffs-16-cores-into-desktop-supercomputer/http://www.engadget.com/2006/03/13/tyan-typhoon-stuffs-16-cores-into-desktop-supercomputer/Mar 13th 2006 7:24PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/03/13/tyan-typhoon-stuffs-16-cores-into-desktop-supercomputer/http://www.engadget.com/2006/03/13/tyan-typhoon-stuffs-16-cores-into-desktop-supercomputer/Mar 13th 2006 7:29PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/03/13/tyan-typhoon-stuffs-16-cores-into-desktop-supercomputer/http://www.engadget.com/2006/03/13/tyan-typhoon-stuffs-16-cores-into-desktop-supercomputer/
I find this machine very interesting...]]>Mar 13th 2006 7:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/03/13/tyan-typhoon-stuffs-16-cores-into-desktop-supercomputer/http://www.engadget.com/2006/03/13/tyan-typhoon-stuffs-16-cores-into-desktop-supercomputer/Mar 13th 2006 7:35PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/03/13/tyan-typhoon-stuffs-16-cores-into-desktop-supercomputer/http://www.engadget.com/2006/03/13/tyan-typhoon-stuffs-16-cores-into-desktop-supercomputer/Mar 13th 2006 7:38PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/03/13/tyan-typhoon-stuffs-16-cores-into-desktop-supercomputer/http://www.engadget.com/2006/03/13/tyan-typhoon-stuffs-16-cores-into-desktop-supercomputer/Mar 13th 2006 7:46PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/03/13/tyan-typhoon-stuffs-16-cores-into-desktop-supercomputer/http://www.engadget.com/2006/03/13/tyan-typhoon-stuffs-16-cores-into-desktop-supercomputer/Mar 13th 2006 7:46PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/03/13/tyan-typhoon-stuffs-16-cores-into-desktop-supercomputer/http://www.engadget.com/2006/03/13/tyan-typhoon-stuffs-16-cores-into-desktop-supercomputer/The same thing we do every night Pinky...Try to take over the world! Sorry, but they might just succeed with that damn thing!!!]]>Mar 13th 2006 7:51PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/03/13/tyan-typhoon-stuffs-16-cores-into-desktop-supercomputer/http://www.engadget.com/2006/03/13/tyan-typhoon-stuffs-16-cores-into-desktop-supercomputer/Mar 13th 2006 7:51PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/03/13/tyan-typhoon-stuffs-16-cores-into-desktop-supercomputer/http://www.engadget.com/2006/03/13/tyan-typhoon-stuffs-16-cores-into-desktop-supercomputer/Mar 13th 2006 8:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/03/13/tyan-typhoon-stuffs-16-cores-into-desktop-supercomputer/http://www.engadget.com/2006/03/13/tyan-typhoon-stuffs-16-cores-into-desktop-supercomputer/Mar 13th 2006 8:04PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/03/13/tyan-typhoon-stuffs-16-cores-into-desktop-supercomputer/http://www.engadget.com/2006/03/13/tyan-typhoon-stuffs-16-cores-into-desktop-supercomputer/Mar 13th 2006 8:12PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/03/13/tyan-typhoon-stuffs-16-cores-into-desktop-supercomputer/http://www.engadget.com/2006/03/13/tyan-typhoon-stuffs-16-cores-into-desktop-supercomputer/Mar 13th 2006 8:16PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/03/13/tyan-typhoon-stuffs-16-cores-into-desktop-supercomputer/http://www.engadget.com/2006/03/13/tyan-typhoon-stuffs-16-cores-into-desktop-supercomputer/http://rocketcalc.com/ about 4 years ago. They make machines exactly like this. So this is nothing new to me.]]>Mar 13th 2006 8:16PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/03/13/tyan-typhoon-stuffs-16-cores-into-desktop-supercomputer/http://www.engadget.com/2006/03/13/tyan-typhoon-stuffs-16-cores-into-desktop-supercomputer/Mar 13th 2006 8:20PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/03/13/tyan-typhoon-stuffs-16-cores-into-desktop-supercomputer/http://www.engadget.com/2006/03/13/tyan-typhoon-stuffs-16-cores-into-desktop-supercomputer/heres another article

http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=30258

sorry about spelling]]>Mar 13th 2006 8:27PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/03/13/tyan-typhoon-stuffs-16-cores-into-desktop-supercomputer/http://www.engadget.com/2006/03/13/tyan-typhoon-stuffs-16-cores-into-desktop-supercomputer/This is BOGUS.

Its not a 16core system. Its 4 "individual" 4 core systems.

Its the same thing as having 4 different servers each with 2 dual-core processors in them. They just happen to be blades that shared the same power etc in a nice rack chassis.


Big Whoop.


Call me when you ACTUALLY have 16 real processors in one system like a Sun or HPUX, or AIX box then I might be impressed.


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This box is meant to be controlled over a network (i.e, with no monitor, keyboard, or mouse attached to it) to do math really, really fast. It's four blade servers in a box, with ultraquiet fans so you can tolerate being in the same room with it.]]>Mar 13th 2006 9:38PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/03/13/tyan-typhoon-stuffs-16-cores-into-desktop-supercomputer/http://www.engadget.com/2006/03/13/tyan-typhoon-stuffs-16-cores-into-desktop-supercomputer/
http://www.gigaserver.nl/product_info.php?products_id=179

Only 9999 EUR (base price I assume)

Or this one (same chassis) : http://www.swt.com/vx50.html

Only 65,000 with 8 Dual-core 880's and 128GB of ram and the most expensive options (except for tape dirves I could fine)

I wonder how Quake would do on this?]]>Mar 13th 2006 10:39PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/03/13/tyan-typhoon-stuffs-16-cores-into-desktop-supercomputer/http://www.engadget.com/2006/03/13/tyan-typhoon-stuffs-16-cores-into-desktop-supercomputer/Mar 13th 2006 11:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/03/13/tyan-typhoon-stuffs-16-cores-into-desktop-supercomputer/http://www.engadget.com/2006/03/13/tyan-typhoon-stuffs-16-cores-into-desktop-supercomputer/Mar 14th 2006 1:44AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/03/13/tyan-typhoon-stuffs-16-cores-into-desktop-supercomputer/http://www.engadget.com/2006/03/13/tyan-typhoon-stuffs-16-cores-into-desktop-supercomputer/Mar 14th 2006 1:44AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/03/13/tyan-typhoon-stuffs-16-cores-into-desktop-supercomputer/http://www.engadget.com/2006/03/13/tyan-typhoon-stuffs-16-cores-into-desktop-supercomputer/
What would be even cooler is if an entire community was able to share the Idle CPU power they already have, but don't use. That could be in the range of 1,000's of CPU doing simple calculations. I'm sure Intel, AMD and even Microsoft wouldn't want this to happen.]]>Mar 14th 2006 3:53AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/03/13/tyan-typhoon-stuffs-16-cores-into-desktop-supercomputer/http://www.engadget.com/2006/03/13/tyan-typhoon-stuffs-16-cores-into-desktop-supercomputer/
However! As a render farm this would be real handy.

I do a lot of rendering in TrueSpace 7, Bryce 5.5, Poser and a few other specialized 3D apps. I have a single frame scene that took 2 and 1/2 weeks to render about 7 or 8 years ago on my Pentium 1 that had only 512MB of RAM and lot's of HD space for the erra. The same scene takes under 10 seconds on my current system. A P4 2.8GHz Dual Core, 2GB RAM and 2 200GB IDE HD's. Now on this current system I did the same thing again and built a scene that has a couple of billion vertex's, turned on ray tracing to 8.5x, atmouspheric effects, tons of reflective surfaces, transparent surfaces etc. etc. etc. and tried to render a still frame at something like 48,000 x 32,000 pixels (don't remember the exact figgures) intending to print it as a HUGE poster on the 1200dpi 8ft wide poster printer a former employer lets me use at cost for materials. I was trying to match the render to the actual pixels the printer can produce at 1200dpi. So to make a long story longer..... even with the updated tech it still took my system a week to render a single frame still image. Yikes. Well fortunatly with the dual core CPU I was able to open task manager and set affinity to one CPU and priority to normal when I wanted to use the system for anything else and then set it back to affinity to both CPU's and priority as high as it goes. Watching the progress percentage of the render and watching performance in task manager I could see that even going to a single CPU with Dual Core made a huge differance not only in renering time but in usability for other tasks durring that time.

So I can see having a box like this with 16 cores (even if each blade acts as a seperate server) would be of great benifit to anyone who does 3D rendering or uses any math intensive application that has multi-CPU, network farming or distributive capabilitys. I know it's wishfull thinking but I sure hope when the price is anounce that it's let's say... in the $3,000 or less range?? Please! ;->]]>Mar 14th 2006 5:01AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/03/13/tyan-typhoon-stuffs-16-cores-into-desktop-supercomputer/http://www.engadget.com/2006/03/13/tyan-typhoon-stuffs-16-cores-into-desktop-supercomputer/Mar 14th 2006 7:34AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/03/13/tyan-typhoon-stuffs-16-cores-into-desktop-supercomputer/http://www.engadget.com/2006/03/13/tyan-typhoon-stuffs-16-cores-into-desktop-supercomputer/Mar 14th 2006 8:06AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/03/13/tyan-typhoon-stuffs-16-cores-into-desktop-supercomputer/http://www.engadget.com/2006/03/13/tyan-typhoon-stuffs-16-cores-into-desktop-supercomputer/
Yes this could be used as a 3D render farm. Dunno if this is better, the size factor is nice, but unless they make it cheaper than having a rack of equivilent blade servers, then it's really a stupid idea.

No one would buy it.

It's a great idea, no real reason to have a huge rack of machines. This would be perfect for people like me who need multiple CPUs for rendering (I freelance) but don't have lots of extra space.

It could also be used for compositing with After Effects, Digital Fusion or any other compositing app.

Essentially all a render farm is, is a cluster of computers linked with software that distributes either whole frames to process, or in some cases, parts of a frame. So you could have more than one computer assembling one image at a time.

Who cares if it has KVM support! VNC has been around for ages.]]>Mar 14th 2006 8:37AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/03/13/tyan-typhoon-stuffs-16-cores-into-desktop-supercomputer/http://www.engadget.com/2006/03/13/tyan-typhoon-stuffs-16-cores-into-desktop-supercomputer/
I would expect a moderately configured system 4 blades, each with at least 2 Gig RAM, several hundred Gig of HD space to cost in the neighborhood of $12,000-$15,000 if they even want to try and compete with a seperate blade system setup.

And that's cheap for dual cores. Probably will be more like $20,000+ at least, because business people are asshats.]]>Mar 14th 2006 8:46AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/03/13/tyan-typhoon-stuffs-16-cores-into-desktop-supercomputer/http://www.engadget.com/2006/03/13/tyan-typhoon-stuffs-16-cores-into-desktop-supercomputer/Mar 14th 2006 9:15AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/03/13/tyan-typhoon-stuffs-16-cores-into-desktop-supercomputer/http://www.engadget.com/2006/03/13/tyan-typhoon-stuffs-16-cores-into-desktop-supercomputer/Mar 14th 2006 9:36AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/03/13/tyan-typhoon-stuffs-16-cores-into-desktop-supercomputer/http://www.engadget.com/2006/03/13/tyan-typhoon-stuffs-16-cores-into-desktop-supercomputer/
http://www.orionmulti.com/products/specs_ds96
(the site doesn't seem to be available)]]>Mar 14th 2006 2:28PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/03/13/tyan-typhoon-stuffs-16-cores-into-desktop-supercomputer/http://www.engadget.com/2006/03/13/tyan-typhoon-stuffs-16-cores-into-desktop-supercomputer/http://www.xicomputer.com/products/mtoweropmp.asp]]>Mar 14th 2006 4:35PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/03/13/tyan-typhoon-stuffs-16-cores-into-desktop-supercomputer/http://www.engadget.com/2006/03/13/tyan-typhoon-stuffs-16-cores-into-desktop-supercomputer/
Try this on this url for size ...

http://resources.zdnet.co.uk/articles/video/0,1000002009,39287794,00.htm

Then come back and let's have an informed discussion.]]>Jul 6th 2007 12:37AM