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There are plenty of folks who are just dishonest about why they want the circumvention equipment and plenty who are honest about a desire to have some personal insurance on their stuff. Backups are insurance for those willing to pay for their product, but people with a desire to defraud will do it without regard for anyone else and say anything to continue it.

Pricing is one of the most intensely researched portions of marketing any item. The marketing and sales managers will always perform a break even
analysis of their product and determine what they must earn per unit sold and set their price accordingly or MS decideds their price. Most are pretty good about reducing the price of their games over time. If you paid full price for your game, you have no business griping over the price. Caveat emptor seems not to mean too much to people anymore.

While I may gripe to myself about the cost of games and bemoan the loss of my kidney to afford my gaming addictions, I can't whine too much because I know I can buy the game used from a variety of outlets if I don't freak out about having it the instant it is released. Buy it used or take some time and check out a sale.

I make no comparisons to Ferraris or college textbooks or any other purchase. Those are another kind of thread altogether. Go have fun and pay what you think your game is worth, but don't gripe about it when you could have rented it first!]]>Jun 9th 2008 11:01PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/03/18/xbox-360-dvd-firmware-hacked/http://www.engadget.com/2006/03/18/xbox-360-dvd-firmware-hacked/
Impressive hack by these guys, no doubt. But for all of the torrent whores who will be looking for an easy patch and 360 games ISOs, this won't help you - yet. ]]>Mar 18th 2006 6:04PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/03/18/xbox-360-dvd-firmware-hacked/http://www.engadget.com/2006/03/18/xbox-360-dvd-firmware-hacked/Jul 9th 2007 10:22AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/03/18/xbox-360-dvd-firmware-hacked/http://www.engadget.com/2006/03/18/xbox-360-dvd-firmware-hacked/Mar 18th 2006 6:27PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/03/18/xbox-360-dvd-firmware-hacked/http://www.engadget.com/2006/03/18/xbox-360-dvd-firmware-hacked/Mar 18th 2006 6:47PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/03/18/xbox-360-dvd-firmware-hacked/http://www.engadget.com/2006/03/18/xbox-360-dvd-firmware-hacked/

Watch the video, they flip it over]]>Mar 18th 2006 6:51PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/03/18/xbox-360-dvd-firmware-hacked/http://www.engadget.com/2006/03/18/xbox-360-dvd-firmware-hacked/Mar 18th 2006 6:55PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/03/18/xbox-360-dvd-firmware-hacked/http://www.engadget.com/2006/03/18/xbox-360-dvd-firmware-hacked/Mar 18th 2006 6:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/03/18/xbox-360-dvd-firmware-hacked/http://www.engadget.com/2006/03/18/xbox-360-dvd-firmware-hacked/
Maybe there's another xbox plugged in the back!

A lot of websites are reporting this as true]]>Mar 18th 2006 7:09PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/03/18/xbox-360-dvd-firmware-hacked/http://www.engadget.com/2006/03/18/xbox-360-dvd-firmware-hacked/
Does anyone know? I tried Google, but getting the search term right is a must with so many mentions of the term XBOX360.]]>Mar 18th 2006 7:18PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/03/18/xbox-360-dvd-firmware-hacked/http://www.engadget.com/2006/03/18/xbox-360-dvd-firmware-hacked/Mar 18th 2006 7:24PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/03/18/xbox-360-dvd-firmware-hacked/http://www.engadget.com/2006/03/18/xbox-360-dvd-firmware-hacked/
Just a little food for thought, most likely real, but it is fun to start a good arguement :)]]>Mar 18th 2006 7:26PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/03/18/xbox-360-dvd-firmware-hacked/http://www.engadget.com/2006/03/18/xbox-360-dvd-firmware-hacked/Mar 18th 2006 7:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/03/18/xbox-360-dvd-firmware-hacked/http://www.engadget.com/2006/03/18/xbox-360-dvd-firmware-hacked/These guys realy know their stuff. I'm happy that they are not into piracy though. Because, most people want to hack their consoles only to run Pirated Games. Then there are a very small group that want to do something else. But they are very few. All I know that own a Xbox 1 console chipped it to run pirated games. Most people are not interested in something else like running Linux on it.

Anyway. Isn't it just for Microsoft to remove the debug-stuff, change some other things and then release an updated firmware with all new consoles? I think Microsoft will close this hole as fast as they can.]]>Mar 18th 2006 9:36PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/03/18/xbox-360-dvd-firmware-hacked/http://www.engadget.com/2006/03/18/xbox-360-dvd-firmware-hacked/Mar 18th 2006 9:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/03/18/xbox-360-dvd-firmware-hacked/http://www.engadget.com/2006/03/18/xbox-360-dvd-firmware-hacked/

yea they will update the firmware and then all you will have to do is reflash it.. they are screwed and damn it smells good because its only a matter of time untill someone follows in their footsteps and releases the firmware. :)]]>Mar 18th 2006 10:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/03/18/xbox-360-dvd-firmware-hacked/http://www.engadget.com/2006/03/18/xbox-360-dvd-firmware-hacked/Mar 18th 2006 10:20PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/03/18/xbox-360-dvd-firmware-hacked/http://www.engadget.com/2006/03/18/xbox-360-dvd-firmware-hacked/
It's good to see some inroads in to hacking the 360 though. Hopefully this will spawn more interest and bigger hacks!]]>Mar 18th 2006 10:42PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/03/18/xbox-360-dvd-firmware-hacked/http://www.engadget.com/2006/03/18/xbox-360-dvd-firmware-hacked/Mar 18th 2006 11:37PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/03/18/xbox-360-dvd-firmware-hacked/http://www.engadget.com/2006/03/18/xbox-360-dvd-firmware-hacked/Mar 19th 2006 12:31AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/03/18/xbox-360-dvd-firmware-hacked/http://www.engadget.com/2006/03/18/xbox-360-dvd-firmware-hacked/Mar 19th 2006 2:16AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/03/18/xbox-360-dvd-firmware-hacked/http://www.engadget.com/2006/03/18/xbox-360-dvd-firmware-hacked/Mar 19th 2006 3:36AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/03/18/xbox-360-dvd-firmware-hacked/http://www.engadget.com/2006/03/18/xbox-360-dvd-firmware-hacked/Mar 19th 2006 4:01AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/03/18/xbox-360-dvd-firmware-hacked/http://www.engadget.com/2006/03/18/xbox-360-dvd-firmware-hacked/Mar 19th 2006 4:34AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/03/18/xbox-360-dvd-firmware-hacked/http://www.engadget.com/2006/03/18/xbox-360-dvd-firmware-hacked/Mar 19th 2006 6:54AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/03/18/xbox-360-dvd-firmware-hacked/http://www.engadget.com/2006/03/18/xbox-360-dvd-firmware-hacked/
Here in Germany, a Ferrari retails for 300.000 Euros. They are too greedy so i'm gonna steal one from the street.]]>Mar 19th 2006 7:41AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/03/18/xbox-360-dvd-firmware-hacked/http://www.engadget.com/2006/03/18/xbox-360-dvd-firmware-hacked/Mar 19th 2006 8:10AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/03/18/xbox-360-dvd-firmware-hacked/http://www.engadget.com/2006/03/18/xbox-360-dvd-firmware-hacked/
after all it only shows the movies from pgr3??
]]>Mar 19th 2006 8:32AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/03/18/xbox-360-dvd-firmware-hacked/http://www.engadget.com/2006/03/18/xbox-360-dvd-firmware-hacked/
my prediction: you wont understand and will strike back with some lame witty comment.

bottom line: your worng.]]>Mar 19th 2006 10:06AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/03/18/xbox-360-dvd-firmware-hacked/http://www.engadget.com/2006/03/18/xbox-360-dvd-firmware-hacked/Mar 19th 2006 11:39AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/03/18/xbox-360-dvd-firmware-hacked/http://www.engadget.com/2006/03/18/xbox-360-dvd-firmware-hacked/Mar 19th 2006 12:07PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/03/18/xbox-360-dvd-firmware-hacked/http://www.engadget.com/2006/03/18/xbox-360-dvd-firmware-hacked/Mar 19th 2006 12:45PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/03/18/xbox-360-dvd-firmware-hacked/http://www.engadget.com/2006/03/18/xbox-360-dvd-firmware-hacked/
Good one! XD
Pro-piracy arguments are soooo stupid...
When they are going to assume what they are? Thieves. ]]>Mar 19th 2006 1:28PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/03/18/xbox-360-dvd-firmware-hacked/http://www.engadget.com/2006/03/18/xbox-360-dvd-firmware-hacked/Mar 19th 2006 1:48PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/03/18/xbox-360-dvd-firmware-hacked/http://www.engadget.com/2006/03/18/xbox-360-dvd-firmware-hacked/Mar 19th 2006 2:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/03/18/xbox-360-dvd-firmware-hacked/http://www.engadget.com/2006/03/18/xbox-360-dvd-firmware-hacked/
What? Ever heard of demos? Magazines? Gamefly?

And btw, no one is making "backups" of their leegally purchased games, thats a myth.]]>Mar 19th 2006 2:42PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/03/18/xbox-360-dvd-firmware-hacked/http://www.engadget.com/2006/03/18/xbox-360-dvd-firmware-hacked/
You're a moron.]]>Mar 19th 2006 3:04PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/03/18/xbox-360-dvd-firmware-hacked/http://www.engadget.com/2006/03/18/xbox-360-dvd-firmware-hacked/
http://gadgets.fosfor.se/history-repeating-itself/]]>Mar 19th 2006 3:29PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/03/18/xbox-360-dvd-firmware-hacked/http://www.engadget.com/2006/03/18/xbox-360-dvd-firmware-hacked/
I really don't need to explain it really, you can check it out yourself, it's quite clearly faked.]]>Mar 19th 2006 4:08PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/03/18/xbox-360-dvd-firmware-hacked/http://www.engadget.com/2006/03/18/xbox-360-dvd-firmware-hacked/
Dude, believe me, when my kid gets old enough to play on his PS4 I will definitely be making him play off of backups. Kids have an immense capacity to poorly predict their own actions. I.E. I know he's gonna scratch some $50 game beyond repair!]]>Mar 19th 2006 4:19PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/03/18/xbox-360-dvd-firmware-hacked/http://www.engadget.com/2006/03/18/xbox-360-dvd-firmware-hacked/Mar 19th 2006 4:52PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/03/18/xbox-360-dvd-firmware-hacked/http://www.engadget.com/2006/03/18/xbox-360-dvd-firmware-hacked/Mar 19th 2006 5:12PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/03/18/xbox-360-dvd-firmware-hacked/http://www.engadget.com/2006/03/18/xbox-360-dvd-firmware-hacked/
Exactly. Could not have said it better myself. Pracy is just killing the game industry. It strikes hard against the PC platform so alot of developers aim to making games for consoles instead. But, it seems that this market will dissaper thanks to piracy. You damn pirates, work, get some money and buy they games! Are you too st**** to realise that there are actually people making their living by developing games? They work hard to bring you good games and you just copy them. If you could copy a Ferrari as easy as a computer game people would not buy Ferraris and kill the car industry too. You also have to understand that that Microsoft and Sony are losing money on each console. The plan is to sell the console for a low price and then make the money from the games. This will kill the whole industry and business model. We will end up with more expensive consoles and games thanks to piracy. You have to stop copy games first, then they can lower the price! People who mod their consoles are just taking advantage of the situation. They buy a cheap console, mod it and then pirate games. The industry will end upp losing alot.

And. I have to say that if you pirate a game that you had no intention to buy anyway the industry doesn't lose money on that. BUT! You should not have what you haven't paied for so it doesn't matter. Piracy isn't a right. Games isn't a right. Movies isn't a right. It's not the game-industry that is too greedy, it's you! You who pirate all games that are greedy!]]>Mar 19th 2006 7:06PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/03/18/xbox-360-dvd-firmware-hacked/http://www.engadget.com/2006/03/18/xbox-360-dvd-firmware-hacked/
And the ability to backup games is not copyright infringement, so again stop bitching about how it's piracy. The fact that the 360 supposedly scratches its games is a great reason to invite this sort of breakthrough. When the games cost sixty bucks, yeah, I'm going to backup my investment. You guys who are complaining about it like it's some sort of bad thing sound like **aa public relations releases.

And yeah, games are pretty profitable. The games division of Sony is the most profitable branch it has. Not to say that this justifies piracy, but it's a fallacy to think that developers are on the brink of losing their jobs or whatever.]]>Mar 19th 2006 7:27PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/03/18/xbox-360-dvd-firmware-hacked/http://www.engadget.com/2006/03/18/xbox-360-dvd-firmware-hacked/]]>Mar 19th 2006 7:54PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/03/18/xbox-360-dvd-firmware-hacked/http://www.engadget.com/2006/03/18/xbox-360-dvd-firmware-hacked/#42

Backup is not piracy but piracy is. When you download games, burn and run on a modded console. Only because game developers and Sony makes money doesn't mean it's right to copy. Think about the situation like this. If you were a game-developer at lets say, Quake4 game and worked hard on the game for a long time. Then alot of peple just download it, copy it. I wonder how you would feel then. ]]>Mar 19th 2006 8:42PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/03/18/xbox-360-dvd-firmware-hacked/http://www.engadget.com/2006/03/18/xbox-360-dvd-firmware-hacked/
Shows what u know, I have 6 kids who are hell on $50 discs.
thats why they never touch the originals.

a myth- ignorant statement.
]]>Mar 19th 2006 11:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/03/18/xbox-360-dvd-firmware-hacked/http://www.engadget.com/2006/03/18/xbox-360-dvd-firmware-hacked/
If you couldn't afford a Ferrari, not ever, and if you could have a perfect copy of someone else's with their permission for free, which wouldn't deprive them of anything, would you still say no? I bet your high and mighty principles would go out of the window pretty damn fast.

This hack will be duplicated within a month by people with darker intentions. Ironic that MS tried so very, very hard to prevent unsigned code from running but then just ported over the Xbox DVD protection with only minor tweaks, and are now facing the fact that copied games could be run. So Pirates 1, Microsoft 0, home-coding hobbyists 0 (well, maybe 1/2 - this could lead somewhere for them, I suppose)]]>Mar 20th 2006 4:29AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/03/18/xbox-360-dvd-firmware-hacked/http://www.engadget.com/2006/03/18/xbox-360-dvd-firmware-hacked/
Ugh...yeah, games like Bulletproof, and 25 to life, and all the other GARBAGE getting pumped out at massive cost isn't doing it, no no, its the people who wouldn't buy the game anyway that are doing it in...lol

As for the other two. Screw all of you, _I_ burn backups, and _I_ chipped my Xbox so I could use XBMC, I got about 100x more life (and that translates DIRECTLY into value) out of my Xbox because I could use it to watch movies, or videos, or as an emulator, etc. etc.

Get off your high horses and stop the propaganda spewing. Even IF a segment of thepopulation uses it for ill, that is NO reason to disallow everyone from having their fair use.]]>Mar 20th 2006 10:32AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/03/18/xbox-360-dvd-firmware-hacked/http://www.engadget.com/2006/03/18/xbox-360-dvd-firmware-hacked/
that timeline is very wrong. Especially on the "Xbox 360 Hacked" point. People are really not understanding what this DVD Firmware hack is. First and foremost, it's a DVD firmware hack, not a hack of the 360s core firmware. HUGE difference. The most this hack can accomplish is allow burned copies of 360 games. Right now, the only ones who could use the hack - if the hacked firmware were to be released - are those with the technicalt know-how to open the 360, open the DVD drive, desolder the chip that holds the FW, re-flash it using a hardware flasher, then replace the chip in the 360.

In short, the 360 itself hasn't been hacked, the DVD drive has. This is a long, long, long way from allowing unsigned code to run.]]>Mar 20th 2006 10:34AM