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Pretty piles of melted plastic!]]>Mar 20th 2006 12:42PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/03/20/will-xp-melt-your-mac/http://www.engadget.com/2006/03/20/will-xp-melt-your-mac/]]>Mar 20th 2006 12:43PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/03/20/will-xp-melt-your-mac/http://www.engadget.com/2006/03/20/will-xp-melt-your-mac/Mar 20th 2006 12:44PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/03/20/will-xp-melt-your-mac/http://www.engadget.com/2006/03/20/will-xp-melt-your-mac/OS by Dali....weird.]]>Mar 20th 2006 12:47PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/03/20/will-xp-melt-your-mac/http://www.engadget.com/2006/03/20/will-xp-melt-your-mac/Mar 20th 2006 12:47PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/03/20/will-xp-melt-your-mac/http://www.engadget.com/2006/03/20/will-xp-melt-your-mac/Mar 20th 2006 12:47PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/03/20/will-xp-melt-your-mac/http://www.engadget.com/2006/03/20/will-xp-melt-your-mac/"Fans have been verified to be working, but are generally only audible under heavy CPU load or when the CPU temperature gets very high. There have been some perceptions that XP is running hotter than Mac OS X, but measurements indicate that maximum case temperatures under XP are no greater than under Mac OS X. CPU frequency throttling is confirmed working on a MBP under XP. Installing the Intel Chipset drivers is recommended.

Maybe this little tool would be a solution: Speedfan"

(From the onmac.net drivers wiki)]]>Mar 20th 2006 12:50PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/03/20/will-xp-melt-your-mac/http://www.engadget.com/2006/03/20/will-xp-melt-your-mac/Mar 20th 2006 12:53PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/03/20/will-xp-melt-your-mac/http://www.engadget.com/2006/03/20/will-xp-melt-your-mac/Mar 20th 2006 1:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/03/20/will-xp-melt-your-mac/http://www.engadget.com/2006/03/20/will-xp-melt-your-mac/
And yes, fans are controlled by the motherboard / BIOS / EFI last I checked.]]>Mar 20th 2006 1:05PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/03/20/will-xp-melt-your-mac/http://www.engadget.com/2006/03/20/will-xp-melt-your-mac/
It needs a DRIVER... For a fan?

They couldn't figure out a way to monitor the temp without the OS handling it?

No wonder they are so overpriced.]]>Mar 20th 2006 1:06PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/03/20/will-xp-melt-your-mac/http://www.engadget.com/2006/03/20/will-xp-melt-your-mac/Mar 20th 2006 1:08PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/03/20/will-xp-melt-your-mac/http://www.engadget.com/2006/03/20/will-xp-melt-your-mac/
As I don't even believe there is such a thing as "fan drivers". Thats like saying you need to install drivers to get the power LED working. As far as I know, or at least as far as I can imagine, it would seem to me that the fans are in fact controlled by the mainboard directly, not via OS]]>Mar 20th 2006 1:10PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/03/20/will-xp-melt-your-mac/http://www.engadget.com/2006/03/20/will-xp-melt-your-mac/---------------------

Exactly what I was thinking...why do you need a driver for a fan? ]]>Mar 20th 2006 1:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/03/20/will-xp-melt-your-mac/http://www.engadget.com/2006/03/20/will-xp-melt-your-mac/Mar 20th 2006 1:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/03/20/will-xp-melt-your-mac/http://www.engadget.com/2006/03/20/will-xp-melt-your-mac/
Does this have ANYTHING to do with a fault of Windows?

No. Not even close.

This is a simple problem when you install an OS on a system it was not designed or intended to be installed on.

Go be an Apple fanboy somewhere else.]]>Mar 20th 2006 1:18PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/03/20/will-xp-melt-your-mac/http://www.engadget.com/2006/03/20/will-xp-melt-your-mac/Mar 20th 2006 1:18PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/03/20/will-xp-melt-your-mac/http://www.engadget.com/2006/03/20/will-xp-melt-your-mac/Mar 20th 2006 1:24PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/03/20/will-xp-melt-your-mac/http://www.engadget.com/2006/03/20/will-xp-melt-your-mac/
1) Own a Macbook Pro
2) Installed XP on it
3) Used XP on it
4) The Fans turned on

It gets a little warmer than it would when running OS X. Turn on Warcraft on a Macbook and it gets just as hot.]]>Mar 20th 2006 1:24PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/03/20/will-xp-melt-your-mac/http://www.engadget.com/2006/03/20/will-xp-melt-your-mac/Mar 20th 2006 1:24PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/03/20/will-xp-melt-your-mac/http://www.engadget.com/2006/03/20/will-xp-melt-your-mac/Mar 20th 2006 1:26PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/03/20/will-xp-melt-your-mac/http://www.engadget.com/2006/03/20/will-xp-melt-your-mac/talk about biased news.]]>Mar 20th 2006 1:28PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/03/20/will-xp-melt-your-mac/http://www.engadget.com/2006/03/20/will-xp-melt-your-mac/
The theory behind the Macs running hotter is that because there is no graphics hardware acceleration (except on the Intel Mac Mini; a driver has been found), a lot more work is being done by the CPU.]]>Mar 20th 2006 1:29PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/03/20/will-xp-melt-your-mac/http://www.engadget.com/2006/03/20/will-xp-melt-your-mac/Mar 20th 2006 1:38PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/03/20/will-xp-melt-your-mac/http://www.engadget.com/2006/03/20/will-xp-melt-your-mac/Mar 20th 2006 1:48PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/03/20/will-xp-melt-your-mac/http://www.engadget.com/2006/03/20/will-xp-melt-your-mac/
THEY ARE NOT OS CONTROLLED!

Could you imagine what would happen if lets say something really strange happened, like windows locked up on a laptop. When was the last time we had thousand of laptops burting into flames? Lets think people before we speak.]]>Mar 20th 2006 1:48PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/03/20/will-xp-melt-your-mac/http://www.engadget.com/2006/03/20/will-xp-melt-your-mac/
burting -> bursting]]>Mar 20th 2006 1:53PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/03/20/will-xp-melt-your-mac/http://www.engadget.com/2006/03/20/will-xp-melt-your-mac/Mar 20th 2006 1:59PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/03/20/will-xp-melt-your-mac/http://www.engadget.com/2006/03/20/will-xp-melt-your-mac/
Muahaha >=)]]>Mar 20th 2006 2:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/03/20/will-xp-melt-your-mac/http://www.engadget.com/2006/03/20/will-xp-melt-your-mac/Mar 20th 2006 2:18PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/03/20/will-xp-melt-your-mac/http://www.engadget.com/2006/03/20/will-xp-melt-your-mac/
Microsoft anticipated the Intel iMac years ago when it wrote Windows XP Service Pack 2. When the service pack was released, it had special code to detect if it's installed on a Mac and turn OFF the fan! That way people will destroy their Macs!

Yeah! That's it!]]>Mar 20th 2006 2:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/03/20/will-xp-melt-your-mac/http://www.engadget.com/2006/03/20/will-xp-melt-your-mac/AMD's Cool'n'Quiet technology needs an OS driver aswell, to lower and increase the RPM and thus lowering the unneeded noise when you're browsing with your dog/cat on the net. Enthusiast driver writers should find no problem creating such a driver.]]>Mar 20th 2006 2:29PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/03/20/will-xp-melt-your-mac/http://www.engadget.com/2006/03/20/will-xp-melt-your-mac/
Clarification: when I say "funny", I mean pathetic.]]>Mar 20th 2006 2:45PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/03/20/will-xp-melt-your-mac/http://www.engadget.com/2006/03/20/will-xp-melt-your-mac/
If you look at the "HD/System/Library/Extensions/AppleADM103x.kext" extension in OSX, it is the one that contains instructions of what temp to start and stop the fans, etc. for most of the computers (powerbooks, g5s, etc).

The Firmware will definitely shut the computer down if it gets too hot and prevent it from melting. PCs and Macs will both do this.

I'd be more interested in how long the battery lasts in XP vs OSX.]]>Mar 20th 2006 2:51PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/03/20/will-xp-melt-your-mac/http://www.engadget.com/2006/03/20/will-xp-melt-your-mac/Mar 20th 2006 2:58PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/03/20/will-xp-melt-your-mac/http://www.engadget.com/2006/03/20/will-xp-melt-your-mac/
PCs are dead, be it a Mac or the plain Jane PC. They have been dying a slow natural death for a while now, especially for that end-user.

RIP PC/Mac!

Now lets move onto the next generation of keyboardless, mouseless, headless communication/computational tech that will meld human and machine beyond the Terminal/Control Panel/Desktop metaphor legacy that GUIs have evolved into. Jack-up and fasten yo seatbelt, folks ... Its going to be a bumpy ride!!!!

.drt]]>Mar 20th 2006 3:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/03/20/will-xp-melt-your-mac/http://www.engadget.com/2006/03/20/will-xp-melt-your-mac/

]]>Mar 20th 2006 3:08PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/03/20/will-xp-melt-your-mac/http://www.engadget.com/2006/03/20/will-xp-melt-your-mac/waiiit for iiiit...
"why would anyone want to run XP on a Mac anyway?"]]>Mar 20th 2006 3:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/03/20/will-xp-melt-your-mac/http://www.engadget.com/2006/03/20/will-xp-melt-your-mac/
mac's do have a temp sensor. the sensor will not allow the unit to overheat. while it may get a little too hot for some peoples taste... it will not get hot enough destroy your mac or cause damage. now... wrapping it in aluminum foil and baking at 450 on the top rack of your oven.... thats not covered.
]]>Mar 20th 2006 3:16PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/03/20/will-xp-melt-your-mac/http://www.engadget.com/2006/03/20/will-xp-melt-your-mac/Mar 20th 2006 3:46PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/03/20/will-xp-melt-your-mac/http://www.engadget.com/2006/03/20/will-xp-melt-your-mac/whats wrong with Virtual PC if you need to run Windows, without a PC ?]]>Mar 20th 2006 3:47PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/03/20/will-xp-melt-your-mac/http://www.engadget.com/2006/03/20/will-xp-melt-your-mac/The machines are the same now, there is no difference. Although I do like the option of running os x on any hardware to speed up some of the great proggies.]]>Mar 20th 2006 3:50PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/03/20/will-xp-melt-your-mac/http://www.engadget.com/2006/03/20/will-xp-melt-your-mac/
Other than VPC being slower than a 400mhz Pentium, lacking in hardware support other than USB, not being a Universal Binary (therefore, even slower on Intel powered Macs), it's fine.

Oh, did I mention it's slow?]]>Mar 20th 2006 4:00PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/03/20/will-xp-melt-your-mac/http://www.engadget.com/2006/03/20/will-xp-melt-your-mac/"Burn! Baby, burn!"]]>Mar 20th 2006 4:10PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/03/20/will-xp-melt-your-mac/http://www.engadget.com/2006/03/20/will-xp-melt-your-mac/Because some people actaully NEED XP because of there jobs, but also want the quality of Apple hardware and the possibility to use OSX if they get bored. Part of the reason for buying a mac (especially their laptops) is because they are very nice looking, compact, yet very solid, so if people can use for their jobs by getting XP on it...all the better. When are the "why would they want to?" comments going to end, please get over it soon.]]>Mar 20th 2006 4:19PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/03/20/will-xp-melt-your-mac/http://www.engadget.com/2006/03/20/will-xp-melt-your-mac/]]>Mar 20th 2006 4:34PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/03/20/will-xp-melt-your-mac/http://www.engadget.com/2006/03/20/will-xp-melt-your-mac/
...but it must be Windows. No matter what. Mmhmm.

-Pikl]]>Mar 20th 2006 4:49PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/03/20/will-xp-melt-your-mac/http://www.engadget.com/2006/03/20/will-xp-melt-your-mac/

No kidding. If you wanted to run XP why not buy a resonably priced computer that actually has a decent resolution display and doesn't use pathetic integrated graphics...

Oh, that isn't what you meant? Then perhaps you should get a freakin life and quit trolling. People are going to use their computers as they want and it is of little concern to you. If someone wants to pay for style (and macs are attractive looking computers) but for whatever reason wants to run windows that is their perogitive. Being an ass doesn't make you look clever or witty or whatever you were shooting for with your juvinile comment nor is it going to convince them to join your "side", whatever that may be. It just side tracks the conversation (which I suppose I am playing into). Here is a random question for you

wait for it,
wait for it,

"why don't you grow up, get a life, move out of your parent's basement, and actually post comments with some merit"]]>Mar 20th 2006 4:52PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/03/20/will-xp-melt-your-mac/http://www.engadget.com/2006/03/20/will-xp-melt-your-mac/Mar 20th 2006 5:07PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/03/20/will-xp-melt-your-mac/http://www.engadget.com/2006/03/20/will-xp-melt-your-mac/
ALL MAC FANS COME ON IN HARDWARE.

They ALSO come on earlier in software to lower the temperature.

THE REASON they come on in hardware is to save the Mac in case of a software failure.

This is soooo wrong. And it just got Dugg!]]>Mar 20th 2006 5:27PM