http://www.engadget.com/2006/04/18/toshiba-hd-a1-hd-dvd-player-gets-hands-on-treatment/ Engadget Comments for http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2008 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2006/04/18/toshiba-hd-a1-hd-dvd-player-gets-hands-on-treatment/http://www.engadget.com/2006/04/18/toshiba-hd-a1-hd-dvd-player-gets-hands-on-treatment/Apr 18th 2006 10:17AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/04/18/toshiba-hd-a1-hd-dvd-player-gets-hands-on-treatment/http://www.engadget.com/2006/04/18/toshiba-hd-a1-hd-dvd-player-gets-hands-on-treatment/Is this movie a true HD movie? For it to be true HD, doesn't it have to be filmed with an HD camera? Or do they simply resample the orignal film? What does the Discovery Channel use to film their HD material?]]>Apr 18th 2006 10:32AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/04/18/toshiba-hd-a1-hd-dvd-player-gets-hands-on-treatment/http://www.engadget.com/2006/04/18/toshiba-hd-a1-hd-dvd-player-gets-hands-on-treatment/Apr 18th 2006 10:34AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/04/18/toshiba-hd-a1-hd-dvd-player-gets-hands-on-treatment/http://www.engadget.com/2006/04/18/toshiba-hd-a1-hd-dvd-player-gets-hands-on-treatment/Apr 18th 2006 10:35AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/04/18/toshiba-hd-a1-hd-dvd-player-gets-hands-on-treatment/http://www.engadget.com/2006/04/18/toshiba-hd-a1-hd-dvd-player-gets-hands-on-treatment/
- Picking 1080i instead of 720p for the output mode on the DVD player. He has a 720p native projector, he should pick 720p to match, otherwise the discs he wants to watch are being converted twice (1080p to 1080i to 720p) and losing extra detail.

- Engadget mentioning that he can't judge about the resolution since he has DVI. He has DVI with HDCP, which will work exactly the same as HDMI for taking an image from this player. It can't carry audio, but his projector can't deal with audio anyway, and using a DVI to HDMI adapter shouldn't cause any loss in image quality.

Really, a guy can afford to go spend $500 on the DVD player but can't even set the correct output for his own projector? Just sad.]]>Apr 18th 2006 10:35AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/04/18/toshiba-hd-a1-hd-dvd-player-gets-hands-on-treatment/http://www.engadget.com/2006/04/18/toshiba-hd-a1-hd-dvd-player-gets-hands-on-treatment/
It's not a test of HD-DVD at all so far.]]>Apr 18th 2006 10:41AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/04/18/toshiba-hd-a1-hd-dvd-player-gets-hands-on-treatment/http://www.engadget.com/2006/04/18/toshiba-hd-a1-hd-dvd-player-gets-hands-on-treatment/
I have the player and 3 titles, the display is awesome. Significantly better than a standard DVD player. The new menu system is a major improvement over DVD. You can now select the menus while the DVD is HD-DVD is playing. In other words, while you are watching a movie, you can select the "Menu" button and the extra content and menu selections overlay the video, so you can select "Directors Comments" and turn this on and off while not interupting the movie. You can also scan thru the chapter selections while playing, see exactly where you are in the movie, etc.
Even better, you now have a "Bookmark" option to create bookmarks at various spots in the movie and easily go back to those points. For me, these features alone justify the price of admission.
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Toshiba has stated that the player always be set to output the res that matches the source material on the disc. For HD-DVD this should always be 1080i.
The reason for this is to make the scaler in your display do the scaling as the scaler in the HD-A1 is reportedly "weak".

As for this review, it is crap, and, I'm sorry, but the post is crap as well.
He's basically reviewing the HD-A1's upscaling ability, and the post here says nothing about that. Please amend your post as it is inaccurate.

Mr. Perton, if you don't know that the DVI=HDMI as far as video is concerned, maybe you shouldn't be writing posts about this tech.

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Hook the player to a solid fixed-pixel display like a Plasma or LCD panel... then do a comparison.]]>Apr 18th 2006 11:23AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/04/18/toshiba-hd-a1-hd-dvd-player-gets-hands-on-treatment/http://www.engadget.com/2006/04/18/toshiba-hd-a1-hd-dvd-player-gets-hands-on-treatment/
Quote:
Since the official debut of HD-DVD is Tuesday, May 18, I was unable to score one of the four actual HD-DVD launch titles to test out (see below for links to details on those titles). That test will happen within the next 48 hours. In the meantime I did pop in both “Star Wars: Revenge of the Sith” and Paramount’s upcoming “Aeon Flux” to see how up-converting on the HD-A1 compares to my now old Momitsu. Both units offer a much sharper up-converted 1080i image compared to a 480p resolution coming from Xbox 360 (see below for a digital snapshot of the HD-A1 playing “Revenge of the Sith”). Differences between the Momitsu and Toshiba to my naked eye on a 118” screen were minimal at best. The Toshiba on some scenes is a hair sharper and brighter over the Momitsu but only when scrutinized for imperfections. Anyone who does pick up this player and has never owned a 1080i up-converting DVD player before will be pleasantly surprised at the improvements. The bigger the display device, the more apparent the improvements will be.

from that engaget got

Quote:
However, since the discs he picked up weren't hampered by the Image Constraint Token, he was able to get full 720p and 1080i output. That said, the reviewer still found the output only "a hair sharper" than that he got from upsampled 480p DVDs using a Momitsu upconverting player. So, is that "hair" worth $500?


Either the Engaget author is unable to read or he is lieing and being deliberatly misleading.

Marc Perton I'll give you the benfit of the doubt and assume you misunderstood the review assuming you change your article. Otherwise it looks like you are bias in someway.]]>Apr 18th 2006 11:25AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/04/18/toshiba-hd-a1-hd-dvd-player-gets-hands-on-treatment/http://www.engadget.com/2006/04/18/toshiba-hd-a1-hd-dvd-player-gets-hands-on-treatment/Apr 18th 2006 11:41AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/04/18/toshiba-hd-a1-hd-dvd-player-gets-hands-on-treatment/http://www.engadget.com/2006/04/18/toshiba-hd-a1-hd-dvd-player-gets-hands-on-treatment/Apr 18th 2006 11:56AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/04/18/toshiba-hd-a1-hd-dvd-player-gets-hands-on-treatment/http://www.engadget.com/2006/04/18/toshiba-hd-a1-hd-dvd-player-gets-hands-on-treatment/Apr 18th 2006 11:56AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/04/18/toshiba-hd-a1-hd-dvd-player-gets-hands-on-treatment/http://www.engadget.com/2006/04/18/toshiba-hd-a1-hd-dvd-player-gets-hands-on-treatment/Apr 18th 2006 12:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/04/18/toshiba-hd-a1-hd-dvd-player-gets-hands-on-treatment/http://www.engadget.com/2006/04/18/toshiba-hd-a1-hd-dvd-player-gets-hands-on-treatment/
All you need is a simple DVI/HDMI adapter.

If you don't have DVI-HDCP, however, you will be hosed if the flag is enforced.]]>Apr 18th 2006 12:24PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/04/18/toshiba-hd-a1-hd-dvd-player-gets-hands-on-treatment/http://www.engadget.com/2006/04/18/toshiba-hd-a1-hd-dvd-player-gets-hands-on-treatment/
People make mistakes. It happens. Get over it.

The fact is this is the first hands-on of *any* kind with this player that a lot of us have seen (including me). Was it basically useless? Yeah, it was, in terms of a real video comparison. But it's still the first time I've seen the remote, or heard about the lengthy bootup time, etc.

I think the decision to post the link was fine. The description of the review was not, but you know what? Whatever. If you're gonna get all bent out of shape about this, then let's just say you're probably not the kind of person I want to be sitting next to on a bus, that's for sure.
]]>Apr 18th 2006 12:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/04/18/toshiba-hd-a1-hd-dvd-player-gets-hands-on-treatment/http://www.engadget.com/2006/04/18/toshiba-hd-a1-hd-dvd-player-gets-hands-on-treatment/
Yes, Marc obviously does not know as much about HDCP, HD-DVD etc. as some of us, but all he is doing is informing us. Yes the post should be edited but it is not fair to call this “the worst post ever” on Engadget. This is simply a careless error that can be easily fixed.

Marc you should change your post or make up for it with a new post from a credible reviewer that is actually running a HD-DVD through his setup. The first ones should be floating around the Web anytime now.
]]>Apr 18th 2006 12:37PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/04/18/toshiba-hd-a1-hd-dvd-player-gets-hands-on-treatment/http://www.engadget.com/2006/04/18/toshiba-hd-a1-hd-dvd-player-gets-hands-on-treatment/I agree with what you say about the hostility that some posters are exhibiting, but come on, this is what Engadget purports to focus on! This isn't Luxist or TUAW, making a quick post about something outside their scope...

- I agree that the decision to post this link is just fine. It's an early hands-on, which people are interested in. But...

- ... it should have been *framed* as such. A simple "Hey guys, here's an early test of an HD-DVD player. Sadly, no HD-DVD media was available for him to look at, but he's got some interesting notes about bootup time, menu options, and how the upscaling fares against the popular Momitsu unit." See how easy that was?

Unfortunately, the poster decided to attempt to add his own two cents, (obviously) without knowing some of the basics of the industry.

The hostility here is due to an (apparent) lack of interest in the accuracy of this post. Will I still visit Engadget multiple times a day? Definitely, as this post is the exception and not the rule. Does that mean we should overlook these problems as they arise? Only if Engadget isn't interested in becoming better.]]>Apr 18th 2006 12:49PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/04/18/toshiba-hd-a1-hd-dvd-player-gets-hands-on-treatment/http://www.engadget.com/2006/04/18/toshiba-hd-a1-hd-dvd-player-gets-hands-on-treatment/
Folks there's only so much time in the day to get your info. Engaget is a resource to us and frankly if poor information is what you receive then you're less likely to come back. I know this is an anomaly but like a child that needs to be scolded we need to voice our displeasure at reading a half-baked review. Especially when a recommendation is attached to it. Regards. HM ]]>Apr 18th 2006 1:08PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/04/18/toshiba-hd-a1-hd-dvd-player-gets-hands-on-treatment/http://www.engadget.com/2006/04/18/toshiba-hd-a1-hd-dvd-player-gets-hands-on-treatment/
-KeithP]]>Apr 18th 2006 1:23PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/04/18/toshiba-hd-a1-hd-dvd-player-gets-hands-on-treatment/http://www.engadget.com/2006/04/18/toshiba-hd-a1-hd-dvd-player-gets-hands-on-treatment/
The HD is even better - and this is counterintuitive, but you WANT to set the player to 1080i, even on a 720p display. This is because the discs are 1080p and the player handles that better. Don't ask, just enjoy how much better it looks.

The sound is awesome as well - though you have to use 5.1 analog or HDMI to get the DD+ or DD True HD tracks. The Coaxial and TOSLINK Optical digital connecitons can only carry down-converted DD+ as DTS.

Unit reacts a little slowly to input unfortunately. Opening it up, it's a NEC PC HD-DVD drive along with a motherboard and gig of ram.

I'm very happy with the purchase, not only are my SD-DVDs better, but I can check out the new HD releases.]]>Apr 18th 2006 1:44PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/04/18/toshiba-hd-a1-hd-dvd-player-gets-hands-on-treatment/http://www.engadget.com/2006/04/18/toshiba-hd-a1-hd-dvd-player-gets-hands-on-treatment/
All stores have been using some Westing display, which most have commented made the player look horrible, while moving it to a 50"+ Pioneer Plasma or Sony SXRD made a huge difference.]]>Apr 18th 2006 1:48PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/04/18/toshiba-hd-a1-hd-dvd-player-gets-hands-on-treatment/http://www.engadget.com/2006/04/18/toshiba-hd-a1-hd-dvd-player-gets-hands-on-treatment/
While i accept this is a blog and not a traditional news service, the writers owe it to us not to try and serve their own agenda (in this case supporting blu-ray) through grossly misleading posts such as this.

Since we pay thier wages we have every right to forcefully voice our complaints, especially to this type of post.]]>Apr 18th 2006 1:54PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/04/18/toshiba-hd-a1-hd-dvd-player-gets-hands-on-treatment/http://www.engadget.com/2006/04/18/toshiba-hd-a1-hd-dvd-player-gets-hands-on-treatment/ On a Sharp DT-400 (or Z-2000) player I had the LG LDA-511 on one input and the HD-A1 on another, and he was equally blown away when I switched over to the HD-DVD player. from sitting 7 or 8 feet away from a 115" screen, pixelation was not even a problem. The movie compared was the DVD and HD-DVD versions of The Last Samurai.

The only thing that really pisses me off is that Warner decided to have a demo before the presentation on TLS disk which showed The Matrix and Batman Begins in HD. Those release dates could not come soon enough and I will be waiting at midnight at Walmart to pick them up.]]>Apr 18th 2006 2:04PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/04/18/toshiba-hd-a1-hd-dvd-player-gets-hands-on-treatment/http://www.engadget.com/2006/04/18/toshiba-hd-a1-hd-dvd-player-gets-hands-on-treatment/
With HD-DVD and/or Blu-Ray you get an admitted sharper picture than currently available on DVD with a few gew-gaws features. Beyond that, you get a whole pile of downsides:

a. Have to go out and buy the same film again to take advantage of the sharper picture and other features. Hello quadruple-dipping! :(

b. All movies currently projected to come out over the next few months are already available on DVD at a much lower price point.

c. Provides a very marginal improvement in image quality compared to other up-converting DVD players currently available at much lower price points.

d. The loss of control over video quality output in the near future (this could be removed providing someone creates a workaround that will not result in the one-way trip to Club Fed).

Or is there something I'm missing here beyond the "pretty picture" aspect?
]]>Apr 18th 2006 3:13PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/04/18/toshiba-hd-a1-hd-dvd-player-gets-hands-on-treatment/http://www.engadget.com/2006/04/18/toshiba-hd-a1-hd-dvd-player-gets-hands-on-treatment/
I don't really mind which format comes through, but at $500 for the entry player and 6-9 months earlier than Blu-Ray, I think HD DVD has made some real steps.

I know of several "I'm waiting for Blu-Ray" people who just havent been able to wait and rushed out and bought the Toshiba unit the day of release. If enthusiasts have trouble waiting even a few days, how are they gonna wait for 6 months+ for Blu-Ray?

Before the PS3 fanboys show up - I simply can't believe that it will feature; Blu-Ray, Dual 1080P output, Playstation 1 and 2 compatability, First consumer cell CPU, producing a million units a month - sorry just dont see it myself, too many firsts.]]>Apr 18th 2006 3:21PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/04/18/toshiba-hd-a1-hd-dvd-player-gets-hands-on-treatment/http://www.engadget.com/2006/04/18/toshiba-hd-a1-hd-dvd-player-gets-hands-on-treatment/
1. The HD-DVD player is bascally a computer. So it's boot up time is a little longer then the a regular player. As someone has stated, the drive itself is an NEC drive for your PC. Plus, it's the 1st consumer player for a new format.

2. The image quality is going to be effected by the actual display unit moreso then ever before. If you have a cheap 30 inch LCD display, you're not going to see much of an improvement, but look at the same picture on a pioneer and you will be blown away. Is it the player's fault? No, it's that the display has to be up to snuff to show off the details of the new format.

I'm not a fanboy of either format, in so much that I'm willing to wait (pray really) for a dual player. Also, if you want some GOOD information on the new player go to http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/
they have many poeple with hands on experience that know what they're doing.]]>Apr 18th 2006 3:28PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/04/18/toshiba-hd-a1-hd-dvd-player-gets-hands-on-treatment/http://www.engadget.com/2006/04/18/toshiba-hd-a1-hd-dvd-player-gets-hands-on-treatment/SPOILER:
(such as the detailed look of concern on Ken Watanabe's face in TLS when his son dies),
it is like a new experience to watch these movies again. Granted I never really bought a lot of movies because they didn't look very good on my display, this opens lots of options for me. I am very happy, but if I had an HD set that was smaller then 40" then there is no way I would have bought one of these as the difference between this and dvd would not have been as substantial as it is on larger displays.
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1) I have a 73" Mitsu DLP at 1080p and The Last Samurai looks phenomenal. I don't mean 10% better, I mean 200% better. It's just amazing, and I'm sure it will only get more amazing. The Batman Begins preview was unreal. If you still don't understand what a difference HD is over standard DVD, you just haven't seen it right yet.

2) You don't need to rebuy all of your movies. Seriously, if you have hundreds of DVDs like me, you know you will never watch most of them again. I'm keeping TV box sets on DVD (for now, maybe get some of my favorites later in HD). The picture on these is now better with the upconversion. I'm keeping a lot of my favorite movies on DVD for now as they play fine (better) here. I'm getting movies that are effects-heavy that I like on HD-DVD when it comes out. I have an XBox 360, and I think Microsoft was genius not to wait for either HD-DVD or Blu-ray. I will likely also buy a Playstation 3, but I have to say, I don't think that's where this is all going. Sony is notorious for losing format wars no matter how much better some people think they are in advance. I think Blu-Ray will be the game format for the PS3, and I think HD-DVD will win out in the movie world.

I don't think this is extremely complicated stuff. People are acting like no one should buy this. My favorite is "it will be the next laserdisc." Makes no sense. The players will come down in price, maybe HD-DVD wins, maybe someone like Pioneer makes a machine that handles both, but since any machine will play "and upconvert" old DVDs, this is no Laserdisc. The purchase is already worth it to me even if they decide in six months not to make more HD-DVDs just based on the upconversion and the movies that I will be able to get in those six months. Either HD-DVD or Blu-Ray has to win, or 1080p TVs are worthless.]]>Apr 18th 2006 5:28PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/04/18/toshiba-hd-a1-hd-dvd-player-gets-hands-on-treatment/http://www.engadget.com/2006/04/18/toshiba-hd-a1-hd-dvd-player-gets-hands-on-treatment/I'm not sure how that is going to work properly as the Xbox 360 does not have HDMI or DVI output options currently.
People will be restricted to component outputs and Image Constraint Tokens unless MS releases a new video adapter with HDCP HDMI or the HD DVD add-on comes with HDMI out.
The price point fot he add-on + XBox 360 should be around the same price or cheaper than buying a new PS3.
Time will tell. ]]>Apr 18th 2006 5:36PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/04/18/toshiba-hd-a1-hd-dvd-player-gets-hands-on-treatment/http://www.engadget.com/2006/04/18/toshiba-hd-a1-hd-dvd-player-gets-hands-on-treatment/
'Either HD-DVD or Blu-Ray has to win' no there is VMD which will win in China and India, and where are most things made these days... (yeah I'm generalising a little)

Also your DVD play from what I've read is NOT 1080p it's 1080i, if you had wanted just a 1080i player there has been one out for well about a year and a half:

http://www.engadget.com/2004/10/18/i-o-data-linkplayer-avlp2-dvdla-and-dvd-player-shipping-soon/

http://www.iodata.com/usa/products/products.php?cat=HNP&sc=AVELK&ts=2&tsc=&sc=AVELK&pId=SRDVD-100U]]>Apr 18th 2006 6:28PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/04/18/toshiba-hd-a1-hd-dvd-player-gets-hands-on-treatment/http://www.engadget.com/2006/04/18/toshiba-hd-a1-hd-dvd-player-gets-hands-on-treatment/Apr 18th 2006 8:39PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/04/18/toshiba-hd-a1-hd-dvd-player-gets-hands-on-treatment/http://www.engadget.com/2006/04/18/toshiba-hd-a1-hd-dvd-player-gets-hands-on-treatment/
Do you even watch porn? I've had a half-dozen HD-DVD's sitting on my TV since January, just bundled in with standard DVDs.]]>Apr 18th 2006 11:15PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/04/18/toshiba-hd-a1-hd-dvd-player-gets-hands-on-treatment/http://www.engadget.com/2006/04/18/toshiba-hd-a1-hd-dvd-player-gets-hands-on-treatment/
How does it look on my 26" RCA CRT?]]>Apr 18th 2006 11:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/04/18/toshiba-hd-a1-hd-dvd-player-gets-hands-on-treatment/http://www.engadget.com/2006/04/18/toshiba-hd-a1-hd-dvd-player-gets-hands-on-treatment/
How does it look on my 26" RCA CRT?

Like crap.]]>Apr 19th 2006 4:10AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/04/18/toshiba-hd-a1-hd-dvd-player-gets-hands-on-treatment/http://www.engadget.com/2006/04/18/toshiba-hd-a1-hd-dvd-player-gets-hands-on-treatment/
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The discs are encoded at 1080p/24fps, and while it may seem natural to let the player output to the interlaced version of 1080, it would be less work for the player and the tv to just output to 720p and let the tv display what the player does. Afterall, how can the player have an excellent upscaler for regular DVD while also not handling the downscaling of 1080p to 720p just as good? It's the same scaler, regardless of what is being done. If it can handle the upcaling side of things it can do just as well downrezing it. I do the same with my DVDO I-scan vp30 and it works like a charm.

From my experience with the player if you set it to downconvert to 720p, the image will look noticably smoother than if you were to set it to 1080i and then let the tv scale to 720p. Keep in mind this is relevent to fixed-pixel displays. If you have a 1080i CRT, well 1080i is obviously the best choice.

Just my two cents.]]>Apr 19th 2006 7:32PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/04/18/toshiba-hd-a1-hd-dvd-player-gets-hands-on-treatment/http://www.engadget.com/2006/04/18/toshiba-hd-a1-hd-dvd-player-gets-hands-on-treatment/
http://geekswithblogs.net/lorint/archive/2006/04/21/75795.aspx
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