http://www.engadget.com/2006/04/21/panasonic-lf-mb121jd-blu-ray-pc-drive-shipping-10-june-for-850/ Engadget Comments for Panasonic LF-MB121JD Blu-ray drive ships June 10th for $850 http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2006/04/21/panasonic-lf-mb121jd-blu-ray-pc-drive-shipping-10-june-for-850/http://www.engadget.com/2006/04/21/panasonic-lf-mb121jd-blu-ray-pc-drive-shipping-10-june-for-850/Apr 21st 2006 5:45AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/04/21/panasonic-lf-mb121jd-blu-ray-pc-drive-shipping-10-june-for-850/http://www.engadget.com/2006/04/21/panasonic-lf-mb121jd-blu-ray-pc-drive-shipping-10-june-for-850/Apr 21st 2006 5:46AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/04/21/panasonic-lf-mb121jd-blu-ray-pc-drive-shipping-10-june-for-850/http://www.engadget.com/2006/04/21/panasonic-lf-mb121jd-blu-ray-pc-drive-shipping-10-june-for-850/HD-DVD, HD-DVD-R/RE or whatever its going to be plus BD-R/RE formats 8x both DVD±R & DVD RW, 4x to DVD±R DL, 6x to DVD-RW, 5x to DVD-RAM, 24x to CD-R & 16x to CD-RW.

A Panny drive like this would be ready for almost anything!

NO WAR. RELEASE ALL FORMAT DRIVE PANNY!]]>Apr 21st 2006 5:48AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/04/21/panasonic-lf-mb121jd-blu-ray-pc-drive-shipping-10-june-for-850/http://www.engadget.com/2006/04/21/panasonic-lf-mb121jd-blu-ray-pc-drive-shipping-10-june-for-850/]]>Apr 21st 2006 5:48AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/04/21/panasonic-lf-mb121jd-blu-ray-pc-drive-shipping-10-june-for-850/http://www.engadget.com/2006/04/21/panasonic-lf-mb121jd-blu-ray-pc-drive-shipping-10-june-for-850/Apr 21st 2006 5:57AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/04/21/panasonic-lf-mb121jd-blu-ray-pc-drive-shipping-10-june-for-850/http://www.engadget.com/2006/04/21/panasonic-lf-mb121jd-blu-ray-pc-drive-shipping-10-june-for-850/
http://www.akihabaranews.com/news-11624-X.html

and video here

http://www.akihabaranews.com/news-11625-X.html]]>Apr 21st 2006 5:58AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/04/21/panasonic-lf-mb121jd-blu-ray-pc-drive-shipping-10-june-for-850/http://www.engadget.com/2006/04/21/panasonic-lf-mb121jd-blu-ray-pc-drive-shipping-10-june-for-850/Apr 21st 2006 6:08AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/04/21/panasonic-lf-mb121jd-blu-ray-pc-drive-shipping-10-june-for-850/http://www.engadget.com/2006/04/21/panasonic-lf-mb121jd-blu-ray-pc-drive-shipping-10-june-for-850/Apr 21st 2006 6:35AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/04/21/panasonic-lf-mb121jd-blu-ray-pc-drive-shipping-10-june-for-850/http://www.engadget.com/2006/04/21/panasonic-lf-mb121jd-blu-ray-pc-drive-shipping-10-june-for-850/
it would be quicker to just walk to a shop and buy a harddrive, and cheaper.]]>Apr 21st 2006 7:13AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/04/21/panasonic-lf-mb121jd-blu-ray-pc-drive-shipping-10-june-for-850/http://www.engadget.com/2006/04/21/panasonic-lf-mb121jd-blu-ray-pc-drive-shipping-10-june-for-850/Apr 21st 2006 7:14AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/04/21/panasonic-lf-mb121jd-blu-ray-pc-drive-shipping-10-june-for-850/http://www.engadget.com/2006/04/21/panasonic-lf-mb121jd-blu-ray-pc-drive-shipping-10-june-for-850/Apr 21st 2006 7:38AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/04/21/panasonic-lf-mb121jd-blu-ray-pc-drive-shipping-10-june-for-850/http://www.engadget.com/2006/04/21/panasonic-lf-mb121jd-blu-ray-pc-drive-shipping-10-june-for-850/
2x on Blu-Ray is different to 2x on DVD.
2x is 72Mbps - by my calculations a 25gb BD-R (25600Mb - correct me if I'm wrong) would take about 6minutes to write. Therefore making a 50gb disc about 12 minutes to write.

If i've omitted something in my math, please correct me.

Naturally once these write speeds will probably get a bit faster with time.]]>Apr 21st 2006 7:54AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/04/21/panasonic-lf-mb121jd-blu-ray-pc-drive-shipping-10-june-for-850/http://www.engadget.com/2006/04/21/panasonic-lf-mb121jd-blu-ray-pc-drive-shipping-10-june-for-850/
400k anyone?]]>Apr 21st 2006 7:56AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/04/21/panasonic-lf-mb121jd-blu-ray-pc-drive-shipping-10-june-for-850/http://www.engadget.com/2006/04/21/panasonic-lf-mb121jd-blu-ray-pc-drive-shipping-10-june-for-850/Apr 21st 2006 8:19AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/04/21/panasonic-lf-mb121jd-blu-ray-pc-drive-shipping-10-june-for-850/http://www.engadget.com/2006/04/21/panasonic-lf-mb121jd-blu-ray-pc-drive-shipping-10-june-for-850/Apr 21st 2006 8:34AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/04/21/panasonic-lf-mb121jd-blu-ray-pc-drive-shipping-10-june-for-850/http://www.engadget.com/2006/04/21/panasonic-lf-mb121jd-blu-ray-pc-drive-shipping-10-june-for-850/]]>Apr 21st 2006 8:47AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/04/21/panasonic-lf-mb121jd-blu-ray-pc-drive-shipping-10-june-for-850/http://www.engadget.com/2006/04/21/panasonic-lf-mb121jd-blu-ray-pc-drive-shipping-10-june-for-850/Apr 21st 2006 8:50AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/04/21/panasonic-lf-mb121jd-blu-ray-pc-drive-shipping-10-june-for-850/http://www.engadget.com/2006/04/21/panasonic-lf-mb121jd-blu-ray-pc-drive-shipping-10-june-for-850/
All of us tech savvy types know that the PS3 is basically a supercomputer disguised as a console and it will have a Linux Distro. I could almost get 2 for the price of this thing. You know I think I will. Black for the entertainment center, Silver for the office. SWEEEET!]]>Apr 21st 2006 8:54AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/04/21/panasonic-lf-mb121jd-blu-ray-pc-drive-shipping-10-june-for-850/http://www.engadget.com/2006/04/21/panasonic-lf-mb121jd-blu-ray-pc-drive-shipping-10-june-for-850/
Also I can still CLEARLY remember CD burners priced at $600.

It's new technology, so give it time. The prices will come down faster then you can blink. (Slight exaggeration here.) ]]>Apr 21st 2006 8:55AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/04/21/panasonic-lf-mb121jd-blu-ray-pc-drive-shipping-10-june-for-850/http://www.engadget.com/2006/04/21/panasonic-lf-mb121jd-blu-ray-pc-drive-shipping-10-june-for-850/Apr 21st 2006 8:56AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/04/21/panasonic-lf-mb121jd-blu-ray-pc-drive-shipping-10-june-for-850/http://www.engadget.com/2006/04/21/panasonic-lf-mb121jd-blu-ray-pc-drive-shipping-10-june-for-850/Apr 21st 2006 9:00AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/04/21/panasonic-lf-mb121jd-blu-ray-pc-drive-shipping-10-june-for-850/http://www.engadget.com/2006/04/21/panasonic-lf-mb121jd-blu-ray-pc-drive-shipping-10-june-for-850/Apr 21st 2006 9:00AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/04/21/panasonic-lf-mb121jd-blu-ray-pc-drive-shipping-10-june-for-850/http://www.engadget.com/2006/04/21/panasonic-lf-mb121jd-blu-ray-pc-drive-shipping-10-june-for-850/
1. Transfer of HD content from camcorder to PC using firewire: 1:00 hrs for the whole tape, longer if you have more than one tape, or select bits and pieces from your tapes.
2. Editing (optional) (another 1:00 hrs)
3. Converting to h.264 (incredibly long)
4. Storing a temporary image of the content on the hard drive (also incredibly long)
5. Burning (95 minutes for 50 GB, 47 minutes for 35 GB)

All in all, making a Blu-ray video disc would take just about a whole day, meaning it would be hell:) DVideoD making today is actually already hell.]]>Apr 21st 2006 9:00AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/04/21/panasonic-lf-mb121jd-blu-ray-pc-drive-shipping-10-june-for-850/http://www.engadget.com/2006/04/21/panasonic-lf-mb121jd-blu-ray-pc-drive-shipping-10-june-for-850/
However, Blu-ray players won't be popular until economies of scale are reaches and are cheaper per GB than DVDs, it s only recently that DVDs surpassed CDs in recordable media; the Panasonic looks to be a good start.]]>Apr 21st 2006 9:03AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/04/21/panasonic-lf-mb121jd-blu-ray-pc-drive-shipping-10-june-for-850/http://www.engadget.com/2006/04/21/panasonic-lf-mb121jd-blu-ray-pc-drive-shipping-10-june-for-850/Apr 21st 2006 9:16AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/04/21/panasonic-lf-mb121jd-blu-ray-pc-drive-shipping-10-june-for-850/http://www.engadget.com/2006/04/21/panasonic-lf-mb121jd-blu-ray-pc-drive-shipping-10-june-for-850/
The PS3 a supercomputer? Whatever you are smoking, you need some better stuff. The way they are going, the PS3 will be lucky to play games after they take all the features away so they can get it out the door.

If the Betamax, oops, Blue-Ray group wanted to actually compete, they would be cheaper. They are hoping that people see it costs more, like every sony product and think it's better.]]>Apr 21st 2006 9:34AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/04/21/panasonic-lf-mb121jd-blu-ray-pc-drive-shipping-10-june-for-850/http://www.engadget.com/2006/04/21/panasonic-lf-mb121jd-blu-ray-pc-drive-shipping-10-june-for-850/
One of the first movies Sony is releasing on Bluray is Charlies Angels, and XXX:State of the Union. Do these movies really deserve to be seen in HD.

I myself have a hard time deciding if I want to EVEN download them via BT, and then another debate arises when I have to decide if they are burn worthy on a CDR.

With the advent of the HD DVD and BR burners, there is going to be another scramble from all the movie junkies to begin backing up every single HD movie that is going to be released, just like when those same junkies started backing up DVD's. It's not a question of if but when, because you know all that copyright protection is going to be cracked within a few weeks.]]>Apr 21st 2006 9:37AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/04/21/panasonic-lf-mb121jd-blu-ray-pc-drive-shipping-10-june-for-850/http://www.engadget.com/2006/04/21/panasonic-lf-mb121jd-blu-ray-pc-drive-shipping-10-june-for-850/
I certainly agree with you. The reason why Sony just started releasing some 1080P projections is because it would be a huge contradiction if they release a Sony Bluray player with no accompanying Sony display capable of handling it's full resolution.

Even now though, the new SXRD's don't fully support 1080p display, not at full 60hz, only at 30hz, which is not full 1080p.]]>Apr 21st 2006 9:41AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/04/21/panasonic-lf-mb121jd-blu-ray-pc-drive-shipping-10-june-for-850/http://www.engadget.com/2006/04/21/panasonic-lf-mb121jd-blu-ray-pc-drive-shipping-10-june-for-850/
What?! What DVD drives are you thinking of?

The original Creative Labs Encore bundle, which also came with a hardware decoder card (about half the cost right there), was $399 when it first hit the market. That was among the first, if not the first, PC DVD drives available.

If you mean DVD *recorder* drives, they were also not more than $300 initially. I bought mine only a year after they first hit the market and I paid $100.

$850 for a bare drive of any kind is *completely* ridiculous. Maybe that's just MSRP for the retail package, and the price for the OEM version will actually be much lower when it hits stores. It had better be, or they're not gonna sell a single unit. There will be competition, though, so the prices will come down pretty soon regardless.
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http://news.com.com/2100-1040-271831.html

$599 for a DVD-RW...thats DVD-RW at 2.4x...so quite a few months after dvd-r drives, and still $599US]]>Apr 21st 2006 10:39AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/04/21/panasonic-lf-mb121jd-blu-ray-pc-drive-shipping-10-june-for-850/http://www.engadget.com/2006/04/21/panasonic-lf-mb121jd-blu-ray-pc-drive-shipping-10-june-for-850/Apr 21st 2006 11:14AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/04/21/panasonic-lf-mb121jd-blu-ray-pc-drive-shipping-10-june-for-850/http://www.engadget.com/2006/04/21/panasonic-lf-mb121jd-blu-ray-pc-drive-shipping-10-june-for-850/Apr 21st 2006 1:05PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/04/21/panasonic-lf-mb121jd-blu-ray-pc-drive-shipping-10-june-for-850/http://www.engadget.com/2006/04/21/panasonic-lf-mb121jd-blu-ray-pc-drive-shipping-10-june-for-850/Say it with me now, SUPERCOMPUTER!

CPU:
Cell Processor
PowerPC-base Core @3.2GHz
1 VMX vector unit per core
512KB L2 cache
7 x SPE @3.2GHz
7 x 128b 128 SIMD GPRs
7 x 256KB SRAM for SPE
* 1 of 8 SPEs reserved for redundancy
Total floating point performance: 218 GFLOPS

GPU:
RSX @550MHz
1.8 TFLOPS floating point performance
Full HD (up to 1080p) x 2 channels
Multi-way programmable parallel floating point shader pipelines

Sound:
Dolby 5.1ch, DTS, LPCM, etc. (Cell-based processing)

Memory:
256MB XDR Main RAM @3.2GHz
256MB GDDR3 VRAM @700MHz

System Bandwidth:
Main RAM -- 25.6GB/s
VRAM -- 22.4GB/s
RSX -- 20GB/s (write) + 15GB/s (read)
SB -- 2.5GB/s (write) + 2.5GB/s (read)

System Floating Point Performance:
2 TFLOPS

Storage:
Detachable 2.5" HDD slot x 1

I/O:
USB Front x 4, Rear x 2 (USB2.0)
Memory Stick standard/Duo, PRO x 1
SD standard/mini x 1
CompactFlash (Type I, II) x 1

Communication:
Ethernet (10BASE-T, 100BASE-TX, 1000BASE-T) x 3 (input x 1 + output x 2)
Wi-Fi IEEE 802.11 b/g
Bluetooth 2.0 (EDR)

Controller:
Bluetooth (up to 7)
USB 2.0 (wired)
Wi-Fi (PSP)
Network (over IP)

AV Output:
Screen size: 480i, 480p, 720p, 1080i, 1080p
HDMI: HDMI out x 2
Analog: AV MULTI OUT x 1
Digital audio: DIGITAL OUT (OPTICAL) x 1

Disc Media:
CD PlayStation CD-ROM, PlayStation 2 CD-ROM, CD-DA, CD-DA (ROM), CD-R, CD-RW, SACD, SACD Hybrid (CD layer), SACD HD, DualDisc, DualDisc (audio side), DualDisc (DVD side)

DVD:
PlayStation 2 DVD-ROM, PlayStation 3 DVD-ROM, DVD-Video, DVD-ROM, DVD-R, DVD-RW, DVD+R, DVD+RW
Blu-ray Disc: PlayStation 3 BD-ROM, BD-Video, BD-ROM, BD-R, BD-RE

All that is needed is a Bluetooth keyboard/mouse comb! Imagine trying to build a PC with these part/specs? PLEASE, Out of the door I would already be at $850 with my shiny new Panny BlueRay drive. Sony’s loss (having to price the PS3 at a loss) is our gain...]]>Apr 21st 2006 2:01PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/04/21/panasonic-lf-mb121jd-blu-ray-pc-drive-shipping-10-june-for-850/http://www.engadget.com/2006/04/21/panasonic-lf-mb121jd-blu-ray-pc-drive-shipping-10-june-for-850/
does that means blu-ray will have linux support eventually?

one more thing, assuming the price of bd-rom drive is (roughly) half of this burner, ps3 will cost more than $500, maybe more than $600.

dang..]]>Apr 21st 2006 3:36PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/04/21/panasonic-lf-mb121jd-blu-ray-pc-drive-shipping-10-june-for-850/http://www.engadget.com/2006/04/21/panasonic-lf-mb121jd-blu-ray-pc-drive-shipping-10-june-for-850/
>> 256MB XDR Main RAM @3.2GHz

not familiar with typical applications on supercomputers are ya? what you see as an supercomputer, I see as wasted bandwidth for any serious applications. ps3 as a combination of parts is only as impressive as its price. it is little more than a game console/HTPC. where does it store a large application, and what is the bandwidth of that device? today's supercomputers have thousands of processors in various memory configurations, often with gigabytes of memory per core... peak performance is in hundreds of teraflops for the fastest machines. a very capable gaming console, but by your definition of a supercomputer, you just have to wind the clok back a little further for me to claim my dell is a supercomputer.]]>Apr 21st 2006 8:13PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/04/21/panasonic-lf-mb121jd-blu-ray-pc-drive-shipping-10-june-for-850/http://www.engadget.com/2006/04/21/panasonic-lf-mb121jd-blu-ray-pc-drive-shipping-10-june-for-850/
There is much debate over the dominance of HD-DVD vs. Blu ray in the HD movie market. Although the HD-DVD camp will be the first to market with their product, I truly believe content will eventually rule who will win this battle.

And it appears that Sony has lined up 7 of the 8 major US-based studios with the Blu-Ray camp. That alone should give pause to anyone thinking of investing in HD-DVD when it comes out, late again albeit, in June.

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