http://www.engadget.com/2006/04/25/apple-trying-to-include-ipod-video-content-on-blu-ray-discs/ Engadget Comments for Apple trying to include iPod video content on Blu-ray discs? http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2006/04/25/apple-trying-to-include-ipod-video-content-on-blu-ray-discs/http://www.engadget.com/2006/04/25/apple-trying-to-include-ipod-video-content-on-blu-ray-discs/Apr 25th 2006 3:34PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/04/25/apple-trying-to-include-ipod-video-content-on-blu-ray-discs/http://www.engadget.com/2006/04/25/apple-trying-to-include-ipod-video-content-on-blu-ray-discs/Apr 25th 2006 3:34PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/04/25/apple-trying-to-include-ipod-video-content-on-blu-ray-discs/http://www.engadget.com/2006/04/25/apple-trying-to-include-ipod-video-content-on-blu-ray-discs/Apr 25th 2006 3:35PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/04/25/apple-trying-to-include-ipod-video-content-on-blu-ray-discs/http://www.engadget.com/2006/04/25/apple-trying-to-include-ipod-video-content-on-blu-ray-discs/Apr 25th 2006 3:36PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/04/25/apple-trying-to-include-ipod-video-content-on-blu-ray-discs/http://www.engadget.com/2006/04/25/apple-trying-to-include-ipod-video-content-on-blu-ray-discs/Apr 25th 2006 3:37PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/04/25/apple-trying-to-include-ipod-video-content-on-blu-ray-discs/http://www.engadget.com/2006/04/25/apple-trying-to-include-ipod-video-content-on-blu-ray-discs/Apr 25th 2006 3:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/04/25/apple-trying-to-include-ipod-video-content-on-blu-ray-discs/http://www.engadget.com/2006/04/25/apple-trying-to-include-ipod-video-content-on-blu-ray-discs/Apr 25th 2006 3:42PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/04/25/apple-trying-to-include-ipod-video-content-on-blu-ray-discs/http://www.engadget.com/2006/04/25/apple-trying-to-include-ipod-video-content-on-blu-ray-discs/
They should include an open format that all video players can play, not force people getting an iPod just to watch things on the go.

But I guess that is exactly what the MPAA would not want, an open format that people can do what they want with. I see this working out for them just because it takes the rights away from the rest of us, we can't use the files as we want and they get to keep us under the lock of iTunes and Apple.]]>Apr 25th 2006 3:43PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/04/25/apple-trying-to-include-ipod-video-content-on-blu-ray-discs/http://www.engadget.com/2006/04/25/apple-trying-to-include-ipod-video-content-on-blu-ray-discs/Apr 25th 2006 3:47PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/04/25/apple-trying-to-include-ipod-video-content-on-blu-ray-discs/http://www.engadget.com/2006/04/25/apple-trying-to-include-ipod-video-content-on-blu-ray-discs/Apr 25th 2006 3:48PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/04/25/apple-trying-to-include-ipod-video-content-on-blu-ray-discs/http://www.engadget.com/2006/04/25/apple-trying-to-include-ipod-video-content-on-blu-ray-discs/
Why is it a huge blow to anything?

There are tons of apps to rip video.

If you can display it on a computer screen, someone will find a way to grab it.]]>Apr 25th 2006 3:49PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/04/25/apple-trying-to-include-ipod-video-content-on-blu-ray-discs/http://www.engadget.com/2006/04/25/apple-trying-to-include-ipod-video-content-on-blu-ray-discs/Apr 25th 2006 3:50PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/04/25/apple-trying-to-include-ipod-video-content-on-blu-ray-discs/http://www.engadget.com/2006/04/25/apple-trying-to-include-ipod-video-content-on-blu-ray-discs/
The idea is pretty nice, and it would have to coincide with apple releasing BD burners in their new machines. (Likely desktops first.)

Let us not forget who really pushed CDRs and DVD-R into everyday life: Apple. There the one reason i still believe BluRay has a chance. (Without apple, the superior technology is doomed to failure, if history has anything to say.)]]>Apr 25th 2006 3:52PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/04/25/apple-trying-to-include-ipod-video-content-on-blu-ray-discs/http://www.engadget.com/2006/04/25/apple-trying-to-include-ipod-video-content-on-blu-ray-discs/
you never know.]]>Apr 25th 2006 4:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/04/25/apple-trying-to-include-ipod-video-content-on-blu-ray-discs/http://www.engadget.com/2006/04/25/apple-trying-to-include-ipod-video-content-on-blu-ray-discs/Apr 25th 2006 4:05PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/04/25/apple-trying-to-include-ipod-video-content-on-blu-ray-discs/http://www.engadget.com/2006/04/25/apple-trying-to-include-ipod-video-content-on-blu-ray-discs/
Sony would have versions made for its digital players (psp and some new Sony walkman type thing) before they let Apple do it...and there would surely be an added price to unlock them
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If the music companies are getting screwed by iTunes, what makes you think the movie studios "want to" also?]]>Apr 25th 2006 4:14PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/04/25/apple-trying-to-include-ipod-video-content-on-blu-ray-discs/http://www.engadget.com/2006/04/25/apple-trying-to-include-ipod-video-content-on-blu-ray-discs/Apr 25th 2006 4:21PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/04/25/apple-trying-to-include-ipod-video-content-on-blu-ray-discs/http://www.engadget.com/2006/04/25/apple-trying-to-include-ipod-video-content-on-blu-ray-discs/Apr 25th 2006 4:27PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/04/25/apple-trying-to-include-ipod-video-content-on-blu-ray-discs/http://www.engadget.com/2006/04/25/apple-trying-to-include-ipod-video-content-on-blu-ray-discs/Apr 25th 2006 4:33PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/04/25/apple-trying-to-include-ipod-video-content-on-blu-ray-discs/http://www.engadget.com/2006/04/25/apple-trying-to-include-ipod-video-content-on-blu-ray-discs/Apr 25th 2006 4:39PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/04/25/apple-trying-to-include-ipod-video-content-on-blu-ray-discs/http://www.engadget.com/2006/04/25/apple-trying-to-include-ipod-video-content-on-blu-ray-discs/
The general public will decide in the end and they're as likely to buy neither as they are either. Neither is likely to have an immediate impact on the average consumer. If at all the likely scenario is a very long slow climb to acceptance with standard DVD formats hanging on for years. Standard DVDs could easily hang on until a completely different option presents itself.

I would frankly much prefer to download video than get it on what is to me simply another disc. I would even choose to download a current DVD format than buy or rent an HD or BR disc.]]>Apr 25th 2006 4:42PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/04/25/apple-trying-to-include-ipod-video-content-on-blu-ray-discs/http://www.engadget.com/2006/04/25/apple-trying-to-include-ipod-video-content-on-blu-ray-discs/
Joe]]>Apr 25th 2006 4:55PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/04/25/apple-trying-to-include-ipod-video-content-on-blu-ray-discs/http://www.engadget.com/2006/04/25/apple-trying-to-include-ipod-video-content-on-blu-ray-discs/
For Apple it would mean almost everyone with a BluRay player would also buy an iPod Video.

For the movie industry it helps them cut down on home made rips. They don't want people downloading movies because they don't pay. If people get two copies of the movie, one for their BluRay player on their HDTV and one for the iPod Video. This will stop a ton of people from downloading a rip of the movie and sharing it with friends, etc. They would also get away with charging an extra $10 over an HD-DVD of the same movie as you know they will advertise it as double the value.

Smart move and it isn't totally evil to the consumer. ]]>Apr 25th 2006 4:57PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/04/25/apple-trying-to-include-ipod-video-content-on-blu-ray-discs/http://www.engadget.com/2006/04/25/apple-trying-to-include-ipod-video-content-on-blu-ray-discs/
Sony has more (and better) games for the PSP than Nintendo has for the DS. Not to start a flame war - both are great systems, but you have to check your facts before you perpetuate this misconception.

"They release hundreds of UMD movies for this PSP video player..."

Even Sony admits that the future is downloadable. That's why they're launching the content download site.

"Then they release a new format called Blu-Ray, and include video files that will easily sync with the PSP's main competitor, the iPod..."

Who's to say that Sony won't release Blu-Ray movies with PSP versions on the disc as well? Or perhaps even give the PSP the capability to play encrypted video from Apple? A partnership between Apple and Sony would be a tremendous force against the Microsoft hegemony.

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"Sony has more (and better) games for the PSP than Nintendo has for the DS. Not to start a flame war - both are great systems, but you have to check your facts before you perpetuate this misconception."

I had to comment on this. I own both the psp and the ds, and let me tell you, I haven't turned on my psp in months. The games on the psp are deplorable, they make me wanna vomit with disgust that sony could release them. The only fun game on the psp is lumines and that was a launch title and was made by ubisoft. Nintendo, on the other hand, actually innovates with the ds and comes out with QUALITY titles. Give me mario kart and metroid prime over the garbage sony puts out any day. My ds gets daily use while the psp sits on the shelf, and if it weren't for homebrew I would have sold it months ago. Sony doesn't give 2 shits about the psp as a video game platform, they want to try to beat the ipod by having it play videos and music, etc, and have another media that they can charge up the ass for in a propriatary format. Sony is the king of propriatary, any excuse they can come up with to make something new and shitty is all good for them. UMD movies, come on now, who in their right mind buys these things???]]>Apr 25th 2006 5:28PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/04/25/apple-trying-to-include-ipod-video-content-on-blu-ray-discs/http://www.engadget.com/2006/04/25/apple-trying-to-include-ipod-video-content-on-blu-ray-discs/
Of course that would kill iTunes, UMD video and other such sales- but maybe there is a way that Sony/Hollywood could charge per copy made to each device?

Hmm… then you could allow a network share and play on Windows MCE capable devices (on a pay-per-view ticket) and distribute the video all over the house?

I see BlueRay eventually sitting in a dusty box next to the BetaMax, DAT, MiniDisc formats and (hopefully soon) the Memory Stick, UMD and AIT formats… ]]>Apr 25th 2006 5:31PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/04/25/apple-trying-to-include-ipod-video-content-on-blu-ray-discs/http://www.engadget.com/2006/04/25/apple-trying-to-include-ipod-video-content-on-blu-ray-discs/
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Uhm, as if Apple and Sony are not BOTH on the same Blu-Ray consortium...

This ain't 1994, Apple has quite a bit of heft in digital media, ya know..]]>Apr 25th 2006 5:38PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/04/25/apple-trying-to-include-ipod-video-content-on-blu-ray-discs/http://www.engadget.com/2006/04/25/apple-trying-to-include-ipod-video-content-on-blu-ray-discs/

WOW, I never realized all those poor music companies were getting screwed by iTunes.

That must be why online music sales are going up, more profitable and they get 65 cents of that 99 cents people pay for a song. What a ripoff they're getting.]]>Apr 25th 2006 5:38PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/04/25/apple-trying-to-include-ipod-video-content-on-blu-ray-discs/http://www.engadget.com/2006/04/25/apple-trying-to-include-ipod-video-content-on-blu-ray-discs/
The iPod video already plays perfect quality media for it's form factor and Anything more would be overkill.]]>Apr 25th 2006 5:42PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/04/25/apple-trying-to-include-ipod-video-content-on-blu-ray-discs/http://www.engadget.com/2006/04/25/apple-trying-to-include-ipod-video-content-on-blu-ray-discs/
As someone stated earlier, why not just use a ripping program for a dvd? Its not like the ipod is going to wonderfuly display HD video all of a sudden.

Here are some numbers to think about. From firewire I can record a direct stream in HD from my cable box to my computer. A 2 hour movie at 25mbps at 1080i with dolby digital sound is around 17-20 gigs (with some very light compression this fits nicely on a dual layer dvd!!!!!). A video in ipod resolution with stereo sound is around 750 megs max. How in the world do you justify needing 50 gigs for this. A dual layer HD-DVD has plenty of room to offer something like this. So I do not see how this will "kill" HD-DVD from either point of view. Pretty silly really.]]>Apr 25th 2006 5:46PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/04/25/apple-trying-to-include-ipod-video-content-on-blu-ray-discs/http://www.engadget.com/2006/04/25/apple-trying-to-include-ipod-video-content-on-blu-ray-discs/
WTF???!!!

Anyways, Apple joined the BDA on March 10, 2005.

That's 2005.]]>Apr 25th 2006 5:52PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/04/25/apple-trying-to-include-ipod-video-content-on-blu-ray-discs/http://www.engadget.com/2006/04/25/apple-trying-to-include-ipod-video-content-on-blu-ray-discs/
Apple's in a point now in which any added features they add to iPod (ie, full video capabilities) will narrow their profit margin and only offer to refresh the iPod franchise (since Jobs has already cut-out ac adapters to buy video decoders) What will Steve Jobs cut out of the iPod to keep the edge?

But on the other end, it shows that they understand people won't buy a movie they're forced to play in their iPod or iTunes.

I honestly think Apple should rethink their video-delivery strategy and instead focus on something more revolutionary, like mainstream modernization of printed works (books, magazines, html, etc.).

If a company like Apple can make make reading fun again, I'm sure it can attain superior adoption than the first-gen iPod.

Otherwise, a video iPod is seemingly a predictable, yet unnecessary device that only follows the natural order of portable media.

A 1000 books in your pocket sounds a more attractive tagline, I guess...

]]>Apr 25th 2006 6:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/04/25/apple-trying-to-include-ipod-video-content-on-blu-ray-discs/http://www.engadget.com/2006/04/25/apple-trying-to-include-ipod-video-content-on-blu-ray-discs/
but the movie industry is surely mistaken is if they think either format will succeed for movies.

the only advantage these HD discs have over DVDs is 1080p, and how many people own a 1080p display? Heck, how many people own an HDTV?

all these companies should have made a push for HDTV rather then implementing this new media format.

it'll take another 5 years for HDTV to become a standard, and unless 1080p display becomes a standard for HDTVs before that time, HD discs are going no where.

BOOOyah.]]>Apr 25th 2006 6:46PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/04/25/apple-trying-to-include-ipod-video-content-on-blu-ray-discs/http://www.engadget.com/2006/04/25/apple-trying-to-include-ipod-video-content-on-blu-ray-discs/
Well its not like it wont look good on a 720p screen either. Have you seen what hdtvs look like with hd content? Not only does it look awsome but it also allows me to have a readable browser on my tv.

I love hd and im gonna buy myself a good set. Its just sexy.]]>Apr 25th 2006 7:22PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/04/25/apple-trying-to-include-ipod-video-content-on-blu-ray-discs/http://www.engadget.com/2006/04/25/apple-trying-to-include-ipod-video-content-on-blu-ray-discs/Apr 25th 2006 7:59PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/04/25/apple-trying-to-include-ipod-video-content-on-blu-ray-discs/http://www.engadget.com/2006/04/25/apple-trying-to-include-ipod-video-content-on-blu-ray-discs/ They should work on making a replaceable battery.

Please keep up. The anything-but-iPod FUD team has moved on from that one.]]>Apr 25th 2006 8:06PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/04/25/apple-trying-to-include-ipod-video-content-on-blu-ray-discs/http://www.engadget.com/2006/04/25/apple-trying-to-include-ipod-video-content-on-blu-ray-discs/
Also the movie studios see how Apple has pinned down the music market, they don't want to allow the same thing to happen to their's so don't expect to see an iTunes Movie store until each major studio has their own up and running, if at all. Then again they may not want to invest the capital and R&D to create their own so they might go with Apple as long as the contract is in their best interests, you know it's what they call a win-win. ]]>Apr 26th 2006 12:14AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/04/25/apple-trying-to-include-ipod-video-content-on-blu-ray-discs/http://www.engadget.com/2006/04/25/apple-trying-to-include-ipod-video-content-on-blu-ray-discs/
All the DRM, content locking and regional encoding on the Blu-Ray player should start to scare people, Its starting to sound more and more like one of the most closed formats I've ever heard.

Besides how are Apple going to sell this to the movie studios, the only people to win are Apple with increased video ipod sales, seriously no-one is going to buy a $30 Blu-Ray movie to watch on a tiny little screen.]]>Apr 26th 2006 2:02AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/04/25/apple-trying-to-include-ipod-video-content-on-blu-ray-discs/http://www.engadget.com/2006/04/25/apple-trying-to-include-ipod-video-content-on-blu-ray-discs/Apr 26th 2006 2:45AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/04/25/apple-trying-to-include-ipod-video-content-on-blu-ray-discs/http://www.engadget.com/2006/04/25/apple-trying-to-include-ipod-video-content-on-blu-ray-discs/
What's wrong with digital distribution? Why would Apple seek disc vs their own portal?

]]>Apr 26th 2006 9:38AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/04/25/apple-trying-to-include-ipod-video-content-on-blu-ray-discs/http://www.engadget.com/2006/04/25/apple-trying-to-include-ipod-video-content-on-blu-ray-discs/
does this mean that i can't bring a blu-ray movie over to a friends house to watch if i've already played it in my own player at home? well that sucks :(.]]>Apr 26th 2006 12:22PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/04/25/apple-trying-to-include-ipod-video-content-on-blu-ray-discs/http://www.engadget.com/2006/04/25/apple-trying-to-include-ipod-video-content-on-blu-ray-discs/Apr 26th 2006 11:10PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/04/25/apple-trying-to-include-ipod-video-content-on-blu-ray-discs/http://www.engadget.com/2006/04/25/apple-trying-to-include-ipod-video-content-on-blu-ray-discs/Apr 27th 2006 12:43PM