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<generator>Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/</generator><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on EchoStar to go for round 2 with TiVo]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2006/04/27/echostar-to-go-for-round-2-with-tivo/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2006/04/27/echostar-to-go-for-round-2-with-tivo/</guid><description><![CDATA[I so sick of these cases...if engadget never covered another patent suit case I would not complain.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[jalapeno]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Apr 27th 2006 11:43AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on EchoStar to go for round 2 with TiVo]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2006/04/27/echostar-to-go-for-round-2-with-tivo/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2006/04/27/echostar-to-go-for-round-2-with-tivo/</guid><description><![CDATA[I think a whole lot depends on how the judge responds to Echostar's initial motions to stay, unless the judge readly grants the stay there will be a big incentive for Echostar to settle rather than continuing to fight it.<br><br>In the RIM-NTP battle RIM had a near guarantee that the patents NTP held would be invalidated as the USPTO pretty much said that was what was going to happen.  RIM tried to drag proceedings out until the patents were invalidated but the judge, even with a fair amount of political pressure wasn't having it.  In the end RIM ended up settling even though everyone involved knew the NTP patents were going to be invalidated because they were facing a shutdown.<br><br>IMNSHO (and IANAL) the TiVo patents are a lot more likely to be upheld so unless the judge is sympathetic to Echostar's point of view they will end up spinning their legal wheels with a fairly small chance of success.<br><br>Now TiVo is WAY WAY WAY less likely to seek an injunction against Echostar that would affect existing customers, unlike NTP, a company with no product TiVo has an existing business which could be hurt if they are seen as a bully.  Though if TiVo sought an injunction simply stopping the sale of new Dish PVRs it would put Echostar at a disadvantage competitively without  inconvieniencing existing customers and could produce a settlement.<br><br>Personally I hope there is a settlement, soon that results in Dish starting to offer real TiVo units, as a Dish Customer and the owner of two TiVo's this would be the best of both worlds for me.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Robert Aitchison]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Apr 27th 2006 12:03PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on EchoStar to go for round 2 with TiVo]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2006/04/27/echostar-to-go-for-round-2-with-tivo/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2006/04/27/echostar-to-go-for-round-2-with-tivo/</guid><description><![CDATA[I don't know if they are doing in all markets, but I have been seeing quite a few Tivo ads on TV lately.  And in the Airport Tivo had a Kiosk setup.  Are they suddenly trying to market after all these years?]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Travis]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Apr 27th 2006 12:14PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on EchoStar to go for round 2 with TiVo]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2006/04/27/echostar-to-go-for-round-2-with-tivo/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2006/04/27/echostar-to-go-for-round-2-with-tivo/</guid><description><![CDATA[We'd like none of it...now excuse us while we keep posting about it.<br><br>lol...what?]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Alcaron]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Apr 27th 2006 12:46PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on EchoStar to go for round 2 with TiVo]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2006/04/27/echostar-to-go-for-round-2-with-tivo/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2006/04/27/echostar-to-go-for-round-2-with-tivo/</guid><description><![CDATA[<br>This shows how stubborn Charles Ergin is.  Perhaps he should be replaced just like McNealey (sic) at Sun was recently.<br><br>Any simpleton with an IQ of 70 could see the benefit for Echostar/DISH to settle with TiVo and start offering DVRs with TiVo software standard to their customers.  It would definitely be a leg up against Murdoch dictated DirecTV with his stubborn favoring of the inferior NDS DVR platform (which he owns) over the superior TiVo platform.<br><br>]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[The Jeremy]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Apr 27th 2006 2:03PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on EchoStar to go for round 2 with TiVo]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2006/04/27/echostar-to-go-for-round-2-with-tivo/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2006/04/27/echostar-to-go-for-round-2-with-tivo/</guid><description><![CDATA[I agree re: stubbornness...and, as a 3x DirecTiVo customer (and previous REALLY expensive 1st generation unit...as in, 1k$) I think I'd go with regular TiVo gen 2's (3 by then?) and dumb tuner boxes instead of the new DVR.  The gen-2-media/at home features are 10x more interesting than some other DVR.  Sure, maybe its better at something 1:1, but, the newer Tivo features are more of a "system approach" and VERY convenient when you include a burner and the "move my movie to the treadmill please" features.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Greg Sudderth]]></dc:creator><pubDate>May 2nd 2006 12:07AM</pubDate></item></channel></rss>
