http://www.engadget.com/2006/04/27/nec-falls-victim-to-sophisticated-corporate-identity-theft/ Engadget Comments for NEC falls victim to sophisticated "corporate identity theft" http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2006/04/27/nec-falls-victim-to-sophisticated-corporate-identity-theft/http://www.engadget.com/2006/04/27/nec-falls-victim-to-sophisticated-corporate-identity-theft/Just look at the various Germans and Swiss joint-ventures in China. Audi, BMW, Mercedes.
What is more important?
food for you family or a new Nazi-Benz?]]>Apr 27th 2006 4:31PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/04/27/nec-falls-victim-to-sophisticated-corporate-identity-theft/http://www.engadget.com/2006/04/27/nec-falls-victim-to-sophisticated-corporate-identity-theft/Apr 27th 2006 4:32PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/04/27/nec-falls-victim-to-sophisticated-corporate-identity-theft/http://www.engadget.com/2006/04/27/nec-falls-victim-to-sophisticated-corporate-identity-theft/Apr 27th 2006 4:39PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/04/27/nec-falls-victim-to-sophisticated-corporate-identity-theft/http://www.engadget.com/2006/04/27/nec-falls-victim-to-sophisticated-corporate-identity-theft/Apr 27th 2006 4:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/04/27/nec-falls-victim-to-sophisticated-corporate-identity-theft/http://www.engadget.com/2006/04/27/nec-falls-victim-to-sophisticated-corporate-identity-theft/
The company I work for has had its products counterfeited a few times by companies in China. We receive product returns from people complaining that the product has failed or never worked at all and our response has been 'it's counterfeit, not our problem, and no you don’t get it back.'

Early investigations into these showed that both the seller and buyer knew they were getting counterfeits. And the buyer was hoping our company would give them a real one to replace it. With counterfeit products typically the only victim is the company hose product is being faked.]]>Apr 27th 2006 4:42PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/04/27/nec-falls-victim-to-sophisticated-corporate-identity-theft/http://www.engadget.com/2006/04/27/nec-falls-victim-to-sophisticated-corporate-identity-theft/Apr 27th 2006 4:43PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/04/27/nec-falls-victim-to-sophisticated-corporate-identity-theft/http://www.engadget.com/2006/04/27/nec-falls-victim-to-sophisticated-corporate-identity-theft/Apr 27th 2006 4:49PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/04/27/nec-falls-victim-to-sophisticated-corporate-identity-theft/http://www.engadget.com/2006/04/27/nec-falls-victim-to-sophisticated-corporate-identity-theft/Apr 27th 2006 5:07PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/04/27/nec-falls-victim-to-sophisticated-corporate-identity-theft/http://www.engadget.com/2006/04/27/nec-falls-victim-to-sophisticated-corporate-identity-theft/
I love people who think they can ignore laws they don't agree with. Moral relativism at it's best.]]>Apr 27th 2006 5:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/04/27/nec-falls-victim-to-sophisticated-corporate-identity-theft/http://www.engadget.com/2006/04/27/nec-falls-victim-to-sophisticated-corporate-identity-theft/
The cajones it takes to not just get stuff manufactured under a brand name for yourself, but actually pay for R&D is mind boggling.

I tip my hat to you, anonymous Asian criminals. You are truly entrepreneurs of the highest calibre.]]>Apr 27th 2006 6:08PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/04/27/nec-falls-victim-to-sophisticated-corporate-identity-theft/http://www.engadget.com/2006/04/27/nec-falls-victim-to-sophisticated-corporate-identity-theft/Apr 27th 2006 6:28PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/04/27/nec-falls-victim-to-sophisticated-corporate-identity-theft/http://www.engadget.com/2006/04/27/nec-falls-victim-to-sophisticated-corporate-identity-theft/
Ignoring laws you don't agree with is not necessarily moral relativism. It's possible to have a finely-tuned, well-thought-out moral system and still believe (1) that some laws are unjust, and (2) that refusing to obey unjust laws is not immoral.

Of course, having said that, I think most copyright pirates are simply indifferent to the moral and legal rights of the copyright holders.
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Hahahaha! I luv it when the little guy sticks it to the man.]]>Apr 27th 2006 11:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/04/27/nec-falls-victim-to-sophisticated-corporate-identity-theft/http://www.engadget.com/2006/04/27/nec-falls-victim-to-sophisticated-corporate-identity-theft/
LOL. WTF ever comrade. Install Linux and wank off with your tux plushie.

I think BMW M5s are over priced. I wonder if the cops will buy the excuse when I steal one. Probably not.]]>Apr 28th 2006 12:22AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/04/27/nec-falls-victim-to-sophisticated-corporate-identity-theft/http://www.engadget.com/2006/04/27/nec-falls-victim-to-sophisticated-corporate-identity-theft/
windows is over priced, and its full of bugs etc. when they make a product worth paying for, then they deserve the money. releasing an updated piece of crap doesnt cut it. EA springs to mind

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Also, if Windows is full of bugs, then surely it's not worth buying *or* stealing (pirating). As Ian said, one can install Linux if one chooses.

You can justify anything if you want to badly enough ...]]>Apr 28th 2006 2:47AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/04/27/nec-falls-victim-to-sophisticated-corporate-identity-theft/http://www.engadget.com/2006/04/27/nec-falls-victim-to-sophisticated-corporate-identity-theft/
I'd assume the NEC designed stuff that the factories thought they were making for NEC would likely be almost identical in quality to the original runs that NEC ordered anyway. Same factory thinking that they were making them for the same company=same quality.

So while I do in fact feel kinda bad for NEC because it's never fun to watch other people exploit the brand you spent money building up a reputation for, I'm also kinda impressed that someone took counterfeiting to such a new level of quality and...well just plain cleverness.

Now if someone manages to print up some Apple business cards and actually get a touch screen video ipod made BEFORE Apple does that would be hilarious. ]]>Apr 28th 2006 3:08AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/04/27/nec-falls-victim-to-sophisticated-corporate-identity-theft/http://www.engadget.com/2006/04/27/nec-falls-victim-to-sophisticated-corporate-identity-theft/
I'd assume the NEC designed stuff that the factories thought they were making for NEC would likely be almost identical in quality to the original runs that NEC ordered anyway. Same factory thinking that they were making them for the same company=same quality.

So while I do in fact feel kinda bad for NEC because it's never fun to watch other people exploit the brand you spent money building up a reputation for, I'm also kinda impressed that someone took counterfeiting to such a new level of quality and...well just plain cleverness.

Now if someone manages to print up some Apple business cards and actually get a touch screen video ipod made BEFORE Apple does that would be hilarious. ]]>Apr 28th 2006 3:10AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/04/27/nec-falls-victim-to-sophisticated-corporate-identity-theft/http://www.engadget.com/2006/04/27/nec-falls-victim-to-sophisticated-corporate-identity-theft/Apr 28th 2006 5:33AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/04/27/nec-falls-victim-to-sophisticated-corporate-identity-theft/http://www.engadget.com/2006/04/27/nec-falls-victim-to-sophisticated-corporate-identity-theft/Apr 28th 2006 6:26AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/04/27/nec-falls-victim-to-sophisticated-corporate-identity-theft/http://www.engadget.com/2006/04/27/nec-falls-victim-to-sophisticated-corporate-identity-theft/Apr 28th 2006 8:07AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/04/27/nec-falls-victim-to-sophisticated-corporate-identity-theft/http://www.engadget.com/2006/04/27/nec-falls-victim-to-sophisticated-corporate-identity-theft/Apr 28th 2006 8:38AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/04/27/nec-falls-victim-to-sophisticated-corporate-identity-theft/http://www.engadget.com/2006/04/27/nec-falls-victim-to-sophisticated-corporate-identity-theft/
What about the children of the people who wrote the software? Should they go hungry because you examined the accounting, understand all the costs, were there when it was built, and are therefore are perfectly qualified to determine that the software is overpriced?

I could barely write this because I was laughing so hard about the fact that someone actually wrote that there was a moral difference between stealing something physical vs. stealing software. Well, laughing or crying, one or the other.

My son is fed and clotherd because people pay for my software. Many other people's are as well. If I could post of picture of him here I would so you could all look at it when you pat yourself on the back for stealing software.]]>Apr 28th 2006 9:36AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/04/27/nec-falls-victim-to-sophisticated-corporate-identity-theft/http://www.engadget.com/2006/04/27/nec-falls-victim-to-sophisticated-corporate-identity-theft/Apr 28th 2006 10:35AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/04/27/nec-falls-victim-to-sophisticated-corporate-identity-theft/http://www.engadget.com/2006/04/27/nec-falls-victim-to-sophisticated-corporate-identity-theft/
I know alot of the people downloading illegal software wouldnt buy it if they couldnt get it free....the numbers out there are bogus...be happy with what you got and dont be so greedy....theres others out there in true poverty...]]>Apr 28th 2006 11:27AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/04/27/nec-falls-victim-to-sophisticated-corporate-identity-theft/http://www.engadget.com/2006/04/27/nec-falls-victim-to-sophisticated-corporate-identity-theft/Apr 28th 2006 11:39AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/04/27/nec-falls-victim-to-sophisticated-corporate-identity-theft/http://www.engadget.com/2006/04/27/nec-falls-victim-to-sophisticated-corporate-identity-theft/
Microsoft has every right to charge whatever they want for their products, even if they do suck. If you don't like it, don't buy, but your an idiot if you think you somehow deserve not to pay for it.]]>Apr 28th 2006 4:09PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/04/27/nec-falls-victim-to-sophisticated-corporate-identity-theft/http://www.engadget.com/2006/04/27/nec-falls-victim-to-sophisticated-corporate-identity-theft/That's all I have to say.]]>Apr 29th 2006 10:36PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/04/27/nec-falls-victim-to-sophisticated-corporate-identity-theft/http://www.engadget.com/2006/04/27/nec-falls-victim-to-sophisticated-corporate-identity-theft/
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