we designed a PC board interface for our iPod dock connector. In
we designed the schematic to provide all of our inputs and outputs. For
we created the circuit board for the actual dock. Today we are building it! That's right, today your very own iPod super dock becomes complete, and you'll be able to impress... literally one, maybe two people with your skills. But oh, how impressed they'll be!
For today's how-to you'll need:
- Laser printer
- Staples basic gloss photo paper (Item #471861)
- Clothes iron
- Nail brush
- Safety gear (goggles, gloves, etc)
- Copper clad pc board
- PC Board Etchant
- Acetone
- Synthetic abrasive scrubbing pad
Before we get started, you'll want our
latest zip file. [update: the latest file is up! --Will] It contains the library, schematic and our board layout. First we'll print out our board pattern using a laser printer. We're going to use heat to transfer the laser toner from the paper to our PC board. Laser printer toner contains plastic, so it will resist etching chemicals. Make sure you know which way to insert the paper in your printer to print on the glossy side.
Load up the board in EAGLE and hit the layers button. Unselect everything and choose Top, Pads, Vias and Dimension.
Now print the board. For the top layer, we'll need to mirror the print, choose solid and black as well. Now hit layers again, deselect Top and select Bottom. Print again, but deselect the mirror option.
Now you should have the top and bottom patterns on two pieces of the gloss paper.
Cut down the PC Board to the size of the board layout. A couple quick sharpie marks are sufficient. The saw pictured is a printers saw, originally made to cut lead lettering for a printing press.
Get rid of the rough edges on the board by rubbing it on a piece of sandpaper or with a fine file.
Rub the faces of the board with a scrubbing pad. Steel wool can work but a synthetic pad is better.
Lastly wipe the board down with some acetone. Nail polish remover is mostly acetone. Let it dry and don't touch the copper surface with your fingers, handle the board by the edges.
Place the two patterns face to face. If you don't have a light table, Hold them up to a florescent light and line up the board edges. When the dock connecter appears almost solid black, you've got it right.
Cut around the patterns, leaving at least an inch or two around the edges. Double check your alignment and lay them on top of an ironing surface. An ironing board is a bit flimsy, so we use the back of a legal pad on top of the workbench.
Place your prepped pc board between the two patterns and put your preheated iron, on the setting just below steam on top of the papers and board. Let the iron heat it up for about 5 minutes, then press down firmly for 30 seconds or so. Then work the tip of the iron over the entire board to ensure good transfer. Carefully flip the board over and repeat the process for the other side.
Soak the board in soapy water for at least 15 minutes. Scrubbing the back of the paper with a nail brush can help soak it a bit faster.
Once the paper is thoroughly soaked, carefully peel it off. Don't force it, just gently pull. Soaking the remnants and further gentle scrubbing with eventually get the paper cleaned off the board.
Use a fine tip sharpie to touchup areas where the transfer didn't stick or the trace looks thin.
This is where most of our first-timers will turn away -- and where it gets interesting. We'll be working with some caustic chemicals. Safety gear is cheap, so get some. Heavy chemical resistant gloves are handy. If you want disposable, get nitrile. (Latex doesn't do any good around acids.) We snagged a new pair of sealed vent chemistry goggles at the university bookstore for $2.25 and a simple apron was a mere $5. If you decide to work with acid, keep baking soda around to neutralize any spills.
A chemical etchant is needed to remove the extra copper from the board. Ferric chloride can be bought at RadioShack, but it's opaque, and sort of slow to etch if it's not heated. We tried one of the trendier etching cocktails - hydrochloric acid and hydrogen peroxide. 3% hydrogen peroxide can be had at any grocery store. 31% hydrochloric acid is available at the hardware store under the label of muriatic acid. It's used for pool maintenance and etching concrete.
Here we're prepared to start etching. We have baking soda, water, acid, peroxide, a cereal container, a containment bucket to catch spills, an air pump to agitate the solution and our board. We drilled one mounting hole in the board and strung a strand of wire from some CAT5 through the hole. The air pump will agitate the solution during etching. The acid has some serious fumes, so we've set up shop outdoors. A folding plastic table is ideal, since it too is chemical resistant.
Carefully measure out the chemicals. The easiest mixture to use is two parts hydrogen peroxide to 1 part hydrochloric acid. For safety, pour the acid into the peroxide, not the other way around.
Once the mix is prepared, lower the board into the etching solution. It will begin to turn green almost immediately as copper is oxidized from the board.
Even thought the solution is clear, give it an inspection, here it's just a couple of minutes from completion.
When it's finished, rinse the board with water. Once it's rinsed and dried, get out your acetone again and gently scrub all the etch resistant material off the board. A gentle run down with the scrubbing pad will get everything shiny.
Carefully inspect the board and remove any shorts that may have snuck in. We used a routing bit with our dremel to remove excess copper from a few locations.
Drilling out all the pins and vias takes time, and a few sacrifical drill bits. The ringed bit is a resharpened tungsten carbide bit from
Drill Bit City.
Fitting each connector takes some patience and a decent collection of drill bits. The IC socket has a couple of extra pins, so we just trimmed the leads for the last two. Soldering the connectors is standard fare.
Getting the two sides of the dock to line up perfectly is a challenge. It's ok as long as they're pretty close. One side was out of alignment by almost a pad width. We added some solder to the leads, then tweazed them in place and soldered each pin individually. Be careful not to install the dock connector upside down, like we did in this photo.
Our nearly completed dock. We didn't install our MAX232 yet because our shipment of capacitors is apparently sight seeing in Singapore. The audio out from the RCA connectors sounds fantastic, even without sheilding. And at this point what you mount it in and how you fashion it is entirely up to you. Go ahead, make the hi-fi you really wanted from the Hi-Fi.
Reader Comments (Page 1 of 1)
joseph Amodeo @ May 10th 2006 6:38PM
this is such a cool project. i can't wait until its done
Geoff @ May 10th 2006 6:47PM
Let's see the Engadget design!
Spence @ May 10th 2006 7:19PM
Hey, #3, since your comment has nothing to do with this post, it might be more appropriate to contact Engadget with your complaints and suggestions, rather than post them as a comment.
Spence @ May 10th 2006 7:20PM
Here's the URL to do so. http://www.engadget.com/contact/comments/
bob @ May 10th 2006 8:00PM
ok i have two iportant questions:
1.is the pinout for the dock connector the correct pinout for the 5g video ipod? if not please send me a link to the correct 5g pinout
2.i see your using the two r/l sound outputs that seem to be connected to the video output. are you just using these in the photo for no reason or are the other two sound outputs that are not connected in any way used for something else? so basically why arent you using the outputs that are only for sound?(near the bottom in the last pic)
tom weed @ May 10th 2006 8:09PM
damnit! I had all the parts to do this awhile ago and then had to sell my pod as a broke college student in need of money....oh well im sure this will work when the real iPod video comes out...and I have money to get that :)
hugh g dick @ May 10th 2006 10:25PM
No offense, but this isnt really a dock. like cmon it cant even support it self unless you put the ipod horizontally.
StormLiong @ May 10th 2006 10:36PM
Will Apple lawyers be coming for engadget now? Im pretty sure Apple doesn't like to have people making their own dock connector. :D
joe @ May 10th 2006 10:59PM
i think its wast of time
if you can buy a Ipod i think you can buy a dock
i have the video with a JBL black dock for $250
i will never spend time doing this
Kevin @ May 10th 2006 11:09PM
Hey, #8, if you havent even noticed yet, most of the parts are still missing from the design. Have some faith that it will actually work correctly in a later post.
pt @ May 10th 2006 11:33PM
nice work will!
M@ @ May 10th 2006 11:35PM
Joe, I think you may just have missed the point.
CajunLuke @ May 10th 2006 11:47PM
bob:
The pinout is the same across the 3G/4G/5G lines.
Also, I don't remember why they have 2 audio-outs, look in the previous articles for why.
Will O'Brien @ May 10th 2006 11:49PM
Ladies and Gents,
The dock has a pair of audio line IN, a pair of line OUT and video OUT.
I used a three way for all the outs to keep it east to identify.
If you can, go for a two gang line in, the singles are sorta weak.
Trimzulu @ May 10th 2006 11:56PM
Well if you think $40 for a usb only connection is reasonable you go ahead and keep thinking that. For those of us who have to work for our money this is a great way to save quite a bit.
Jason Slay @ May 11th 2006 1:48AM
I admit that I was very skeptical of the iPod Hi-Fi at first thinking it was a rediculously expensive line out to speaker w/ amp. It is actually not that at all. The raw mp3 data is completely reprocessed on a board full of brand new analog IC's from Texas Instruments. This is still a very usefull project though as it could have serial capability once you get the MAX232. BTW Maxim has samples available from their site that ship rather fast. Try the MAX3233/MAX3235 instead because they contain all of the external capacitors that the others require. Good Luck!
neato @ May 11th 2006 6:09AM
Eww, autorated pcb. This wouldn't take very long by hand and you'd get a clean result to boot! Interesting to see someone successfully transfer from paper, although in all the various media I've tried (transparncies, photo paper, sticker backing etc) I've yet to find a match for press 'n peel. It costs a little more than paper but if you're going to be making a lot of boards you probably want something that will give consistent results anyway. Nice writeup anyway!
Frank P @ May 11th 2006 8:06AM
i have never seen so many whiners. this is a great article and a great hack. grow up people. if you dont like the hack keep it to yourself. some of us that REALLY work in electronics and do REALLY build and hack things like this kind of article because it gets the creativity flowing in us. yes there is always a better way to do something. positive suggestions are always welcome, whining is not.
all your whining is just sour grapes because you cant do it yourself.
I for one support hacking and building electronincs.
keep up the great work guys.
Frank P
Keith @ May 11th 2006 10:11AM
Nice to see someone still using the LaserWriter Select 360. Mine gave up the ghost a couple of years ago unfortunately (really liked it and had it for a long time). It was getting very hard to find toner cartridges for it even a couple years ago, glad to see you still have yours up and running.
Janez Dolinar @ May 11th 2006 10:21AM
"We didn't install our MAX232 yet because our shipment of capacitors is apparently sight seeing in Singapore. "
Omg this is funny! :P
Gary @ May 11th 2006 11:00PM
Wow, It's (Nearly) Done! What Did You Guys Mount Yours In? Some Pictures Perhaps......?
Gary
Nutty @ May 12th 2006 2:05AM
Great Job, very interesting! Thank you. How do the audion inputs work? Can you record in 16 bit? If so, I want to make a mic adapter and save $80 on the "MicroMemo", if it ever comes out.....http://www.xtrememac.com/audio/earphones_recorders/micromemo.php
iPod Cases @ May 12th 2006 10:22AM
Number 9. How do you think all the third party companies are making all there docking stations? I highly doubt Apple really cares and I'm sure engaget wouldn't post anything that would get them in trouble!
marco @ May 13th 2006 10:35PM
sorry guys, i kind of agree with number 8 on this one.
its not really a dock per-se, its more of a large adapter. to make it a TRUE dock, the ipod would probably stand up in it. To do that you wouldve probably had to put the dock connector in the middle(ish) of the board, at an angle. but still, awesome, cant wait for me to make one :D:D:D:D:D
Marty @ May 14th 2006 11:02AM
Looks like fun! I checked out Drill Bit City, and see that they offer a broad range of drill sizes. What do folks choose for a typical through-hole size for a home-etched PCB? I can imagine that it's a little larger than on a commercially-produced board, since there's more chance for slight mis-alignment between the two sides of the board.
mykle @ May 14th 2006 7:19PM
cool ... but i don't get why you'd break drill bits just drilling through
plastic and a thin layer of copper. maybe if you use some decent
quality new bits instead of some weird retread products ... or are
you reefing too hard on the drill press or something?
Trunkneck @ May 14th 2006 9:07PM
This is a true hack, doing something from scratch. Give the man some credit. If it proves to work I say it's got my vote for "best of" IMHO.
Marty swartz @ May 16th 2006 11:39AM
Mikle: PC board is not just "plastic and a thin layer of copper". The copper may be no big deal, but the substrate is usually fiberglas, which is pretty abrasive s**t to drill through. It wears out drill bits like crazy, which makes carbide bits worth using, since it stays sharp longer. All-carbide tooling like this very hard, but correspondingly brittle. I'd suggest anyone drilling a lot of holes should consider using a drill press, even just a Dremel drill press, as doing so will keep the drill straight at all times. (Hand-held drills are hard to keep straight, and not straight => bending forces on the bit => breakage.
Casey @ May 18th 2006 6:45PM
If you are not going to use the serial connection, does the #1 pin and #21 pin have to be connected. Also, which side is which on the connector? Simple question yes, but a simple question i cannot answer.
Casey @ May 18th 2006 6:45PM
If you are not going to use the serial connection, does the #1 pin and #21 pin have to be connected. Also, which side is which on the connector? Simple question yes, but a simple question i cannot answer. I love this thing, i have been wanting to do, almost, the same thing (-serial) for a while, and this helped me out a WHOLE lot.
Justin @ May 18th 2006 7:16PM
John Mayer Sucks!!!
Dyer @ Jun 7th 2006 5:00PM
For drill bits a FREE way to get good bits is to go to your dentist and ask for used teeth drill bits and files. They are FREE! Depending on the chuck size, it will fit into a dremel nicely, or you can use a handheld drill or even a drill press with the teeth bits. They come in different shapes and sizes, some with a "ball" on the end, some shaped like router bits almost, but they are the perfect size.And they are FREE!
I also have a question though. I am trying to make a sync cord with the plug and a USB cord, and I need to know WHICH PINS on the Ipod connector are used for Charging, and which are used for data?... Thanks.
Will O'Brien @ Jun 17th 2006 1:40PM
Hi. Check out the ipod-linux forums. You may need to run their software to use the line in. I'm ipodless at the moment, so I can't test it.
dan @ Jun 20th 2006 12:06PM
hey this is great but i do not have a laser printer so how could i get the schematic design onto the copper i know that i could wire it but that would be a pain in the ass so is there any other way to etch the design on other then using a laser printer?
hashlock @ Jul 9th 2006 12:46PM
great project so far! not sure how much all the chemicals, drill bits, etc. are, but another option might be to just use pcbexpress or some proto house like that. i think they're like $60 per board and they have free layout software.
kSh @ Aug 9th 2006 6:55AM
If i do something wrong, could i break my ipod with that dock?
bob @ Sep 17th 2006 2:29PM
hey c'mon wheres the next part? seriously iwant to see the end and how you housed it and evcerything
Adriano Angelillis @ Sep 21st 2006 9:34AM
The eagle library of this project is not availble for download anymore.
Is it another bug of the new Engadget website?
Please update your archives soon!
Or at least please gently send me an active link from where i could download this project!
Thanks
Peter @ Jan 13th 2007 10:28PM
just a question for will or any1 that knows the answer
wat resistor value do i put between pin 1 and 21 if i want to be able to use line out? anything else i need to do to get this?
thanks peter
Colin @ Jan 26th 2007 6:02AM
I agree with the comment about whiners. I think this is a great project and has a furture in many other projects. Thanks to this project i have started working on a project to connect my freinds ipod video to the toyota factory Head units with sat nav. Video and audio is done but I am working on a converter to connect the track up/down etc.. to the ipod as a CD changer. I have also built a Ipod mixing station with two ipod 20GBs connected to a 6 channel DJ mixing station in a briefcase powered off one 14v laptop battery !!!. I just arrive and hook upto the clubs sound system.
Colin @ Jan 26th 2007 6:55AM
I missed out in my comment before that both ipods are running rockbox firmware which has pitch up/down controls
Bob @ May 18th 2007 10:51PM
would this work for a 30 or 80 gig ipod? and what would be a good way to add an IR remote to the serial port that is connected? I really would have no purpose for an actual serial port seeing as my computer doesnt have one anymore :P
samy_indahood @ Jun 9th 2007 8:51AM
hello,
im almost finished with the ipod super dock...
but i need capacitors and resistors.
capacitors: how much µF do i need for that max232 chip?
resitors: how much ohm??
thank you very much
good bye
Sinnister @ Jul 19th 2007 10:53AM
This is AWESOME!!!!, All my life I wanted to know how to make circuit boards and WOW I would have never guessed, You are the MAN!, Thanks a lot! and hope you keep on teaching up stuff like this =)
Ryan Cook @ Sep 18th 2007 6:34AM
Very cool! I will be trying this.
OMAR LOPEZ @ Feb 13th 2009 8:33PM
I GOT A IPOD CLASSIC 120 GB. SOMEBODY TELLME HOW ACTIVATE THE RECORD MODE WITH THE IPOD SUPERDOCK ,WITHOUT USE THE DB9 PORT.NEED I A RESISTANCE? OR WHAT?
OMAR LOPEZ @ Feb 13th 2009 8:44PM
I GOT A IPOD CLASSIC 120 GB. SOMEBODY TELLME HOW ACTIVATE THE RECORD MODE WITH THE IPOD SUPERDOCK ,WITHOUT USE THE DB9 PORT.NEED I A RESISTANCE? OR WHAT?