http://www.engadget.com/2006/05/11/avchd-format-will-enable-8cm-dvd-equipped-hd-camcorders/ Engadget Comments for AVCHD format will enable 8cm DVD-equipped HD camcorders http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2006/05/11/avchd-format-will-enable-8cm-dvd-equipped-hd-camcorders/http://www.engadget.com/2006/05/11/avchd-format-will-enable-8cm-dvd-equipped-hd-camcorders/May 11th 2006 12:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/05/11/avchd-format-will-enable-8cm-dvd-equipped-hd-camcorders/http://www.engadget.com/2006/05/11/avchd-format-will-enable-8cm-dvd-equipped-hd-camcorders/May 11th 2006 12:39PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/05/11/avchd-format-will-enable-8cm-dvd-equipped-hd-camcorders/http://www.engadget.com/2006/05/11/avchd-format-will-enable-8cm-dvd-equipped-hd-camcorders/May 11th 2006 1:43PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/05/11/avchd-format-will-enable-8cm-dvd-equipped-hd-camcorders/http://www.engadget.com/2006/05/11/avchd-format-will-enable-8cm-dvd-equipped-hd-camcorders/
What's weird is that this records straight to mini DVD .. which means that its intended to be popped right into a DVD player. But, how many DVD players will support playback of this new format? Things should get interesting once mini BD discs are released for this purpose.]]>May 11th 2006 2:08PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/05/11/avchd-format-will-enable-8cm-dvd-equipped-hd-camcorders/http://www.engadget.com/2006/05/11/avchd-format-will-enable-8cm-dvd-equipped-hd-camcorders/
Since AVC H.264 is being used by BOTH HD-DVD and Blu-Ray, it would be EASY for most next generation DVD players to add support for reading AVCHD disks. I mean if you are RECORDING stuff in 1080p, then you probably want a true HD player anyways.

I would expect Blu-Ray (e.i. sony) players to support it. ]]>May 11th 2006 2:34PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/05/11/avchd-format-will-enable-8cm-dvd-equipped-hd-camcorders/http://www.engadget.com/2006/05/11/avchd-format-will-enable-8cm-dvd-equipped-hd-camcorders/May 11th 2006 3:16PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/05/11/avchd-format-will-enable-8cm-dvd-equipped-hd-camcorders/http://www.engadget.com/2006/05/11/avchd-format-will-enable-8cm-dvd-equipped-hd-camcorders/May 11th 2006 4:01PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/05/11/avchd-format-will-enable-8cm-dvd-equipped-hd-camcorders/http://www.engadget.com/2006/05/11/avchd-format-will-enable-8cm-dvd-equipped-hd-camcorders/Or to the 1.8" 10-20Gb HDD ?
Or to the 1" 5-10Gb HDD?]]>May 11th 2006 4:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/05/11/avchd-format-will-enable-8cm-dvd-equipped-hd-camcorders/http://www.engadget.com/2006/05/11/avchd-format-will-enable-8cm-dvd-equipped-hd-camcorders/May 11th 2006 5:32PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/05/11/avchd-format-will-enable-8cm-dvd-equipped-hd-camcorders/http://www.engadget.com/2006/05/11/avchd-format-will-enable-8cm-dvd-equipped-hd-camcorders/1) This camcorder will be capable of 1080p24. No consumer or prosumer or any other camcorder on the market under $10,000 is capable of this. Indie filmmakers will be eagerly anticipating how this will be.
2) The HDV format uses MPEG-2 compression, yet picture quality is still better in general than with DV because of the added resolution. HDV is also demonstrated to show no noticeable quality loss even after being recompressed after several generations. H.264 is by no means a "sub-standard" format, considering that it compresses much better than MPEG-2 and is the official video standard for both Blu-ray and HD-DVD. Besides ease of editing, the only reason that anyone would want to stick to DV is for better color and lowlight on the higher end models, like the GL2.]]>May 11th 2006 6:01PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/05/11/avchd-format-will-enable-8cm-dvd-equipped-hd-camcorders/http://www.engadget.com/2006/05/11/avchd-format-will-enable-8cm-dvd-equipped-hd-camcorders/
Um. You must be forgetting the Panasonic HVX200. It records 1080 24p onto P2 cards. One can be had for around $7000 or less. This codec is worthless to indie film makers due to the nature of the compression. You would have to re-encode all your footage before editing. For families recording their vacation, its great because it has descent quality and doesn't take up much space.]]>Oct 4th 2006 5:42PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/05/11/avchd-format-will-enable-8cm-dvd-equipped-hd-camcorders/http://www.engadget.com/2006/05/11/avchd-format-will-enable-8cm-dvd-equipped-hd-camcorders/
HDV is limited to 1080ix1440, using a rectangular pixel. So it's not full-resolution HD. It is, however, running at a 25mbps, which gives an artifact-free MPEG2 recording.

Also, forget your 5GB flash card for anything but a few minutes of data storage in this case. You need tape... or maybe in the future, full-blown Blu-Ray... to handle data sets these camcorders produce.

I'm still very skeptical of anything that claims to put HDTV on a DVD, even when using "advanced" codecs. HD-DVD launched with advanced codecs, and still uses the 2-layer 30GB disc (which is a good thing, really).

-Pie]]>May 11th 2006 7:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/05/11/avchd-format-will-enable-8cm-dvd-equipped-hd-camcorders/http://www.engadget.com/2006/05/11/avchd-format-will-enable-8cm-dvd-equipped-hd-camcorders/
"Pros wont even blink an eye at this" - Pros record HD video direct to hard disk, in dual-link uncompressed 4:4:4:4 RGB. Pros would laugh in your face if you suggested they squeeze their expensive talent into some two-bitrate, heavily-subsampled, overcompressed YUV format on some bizarro optical disc. Might as well ask a pro photographer to shoot direct to floppy on an old Mavica.

Second, many consumer HDV cameras support 1080p24, and have done for some time. The Sony HDR-HC3 costs only US$1500 MSRP.

Third, quality loss depends on compression bitrate of course, but ANY compression by HDV/MPEG2 or H.264 is noticeable, since they throw away 3/4 of the colour info before they even start.]]>May 11th 2006 9:29PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/05/11/avchd-format-will-enable-8cm-dvd-equipped-hd-camcorders/http://www.engadget.com/2006/05/11/avchd-format-will-enable-8cm-dvd-equipped-hd-camcorders/Jul 19th 2006 11:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/05/11/avchd-format-will-enable-8cm-dvd-equipped-hd-camcorders/http://www.engadget.com/2006/05/11/avchd-format-will-enable-8cm-dvd-equipped-hd-camcorders/Aug 16th 2006 11:21AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/05/11/avchd-format-will-enable-8cm-dvd-equipped-hd-camcorders/http://www.engadget.com/2006/05/11/avchd-format-will-enable-8cm-dvd-equipped-hd-camcorders/
The HD video that I did shoot is as good as the HDTV I get at home. Excellent sound. Also, I can plug the memory stick directly into my TV. My only gripe is that there is hardly any software that supports it, and the software supplied by Sony converts the video to MPEG 2. In any case, this camcorder works for me. I do hope, though, that Sony (or some interested 3rd party) will come up with some decent editing/conversion software.]]>Apr 2nd 2007 6:37PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/05/11/avchd-format-will-enable-8cm-dvd-equipped-hd-camcorders/http://www.engadget.com/2006/05/11/avchd-format-will-enable-8cm-dvd-equipped-hd-camcorders/Sep 10th 2007 9:31PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/05/11/avchd-format-will-enable-8cm-dvd-equipped-hd-camcorders/http://www.engadget.com/2006/05/11/avchd-format-will-enable-8cm-dvd-equipped-hd-camcorders/that previously did not work with Apple, for a list of tested Camcorders check the Apple.com site for more details.]]>Sep 10th 2007 9:34PM