http://www.engadget.com/2006/06/04/cringingly-blurry-pics-reveal-microsofts-ipod-killer/ Engadget Comments for Cringingly blurry pics reveal Microsoft's "iPod killer"? http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2006/06/04/cringingly-blurry-pics-reveal-microsofts-ipod-killer/http://www.engadget.com/2006/06/04/cringingly-blurry-pics-reveal-microsofts-ipod-killer/Jun 19th 2006 5:29PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/06/04/cringingly-blurry-pics-reveal-microsofts-ipod-killer/http://www.engadget.com/2006/06/04/cringingly-blurry-pics-reveal-microsofts-ipod-killer/Jul 6th 2006 3:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/06/04/cringingly-blurry-pics-reveal-microsofts-ipod-killer/http://www.engadget.com/2006/06/04/cringingly-blurry-pics-reveal-microsofts-ipod-killer/Jul 6th 2006 3:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/06/04/cringingly-blurry-pics-reveal-microsofts-ipod-killer/http://www.engadget.com/2006/06/04/cringingly-blurry-pics-reveal-microsofts-ipod-killer/Jul 6th 2006 5:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/06/04/cringingly-blurry-pics-reveal-microsofts-ipod-killer/http://www.engadget.com/2006/06/04/cringingly-blurry-pics-reveal-microsofts-ipod-killer/Jul 6th 2006 5:57PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/06/04/cringingly-blurry-pics-reveal-microsofts-ipod-killer/http://www.engadget.com/2006/06/04/cringingly-blurry-pics-reveal-microsofts-ipod-killer/
Also, enough of this everything-that's-not-iPod-is-ugly shit already.]]>Jul 6th 2006 6:00PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/06/04/cringingly-blurry-pics-reveal-microsofts-ipod-killer/http://www.engadget.com/2006/06/04/cringingly-blurry-pics-reveal-microsofts-ipod-killer/
Are all macboys such morons as you are? You would need to buy a player from Microsoft, before you can get those free songs. Idiot.]]>Jul 6th 2006 6:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/06/04/cringingly-blurry-pics-reveal-microsofts-ipod-killer/http://www.engadget.com/2006/06/04/cringingly-blurry-pics-reveal-microsofts-ipod-killer/
I believe technology should be easy to use.]]>Jul 6th 2006 7:47PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/06/04/cringingly-blurry-pics-reveal-microsofts-ipod-killer/http://www.engadget.com/2006/06/04/cringingly-blurry-pics-reveal-microsofts-ipod-killer/Jul 6th 2006 8:36PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/06/04/cringingly-blurry-pics-reveal-microsofts-ipod-killer/http://www.engadget.com/2006/06/04/cringingly-blurry-pics-reveal-microsofts-ipod-killer/Apr 15th 2009 3:26PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/06/04/cringingly-blurry-pics-reveal-microsofts-ipod-killer/http://www.engadget.com/2006/06/04/cringingly-blurry-pics-reveal-microsofts-ipod-killer/Jul 6th 2006 8:57PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/06/04/cringingly-blurry-pics-reveal-microsofts-ipod-killer/http://www.engadget.com/2006/06/04/cringingly-blurry-pics-reveal-microsofts-ipod-killer/Nov 18th 2007 5:18PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/06/04/cringingly-blurry-pics-reveal-microsofts-ipod-killer/http://www.engadget.com/2006/06/04/cringingly-blurry-pics-reveal-microsofts-ipod-killer/
I don't think it's ugly, PC-ish (nothing can be PC-ish out of a PC), it's just to my eyes a product to gain market, that's all, and to win the market as Apple has shown us you have to look cool, have "better" products (since people are blind by the fact that your product is cool you don't have to make a THAT MUCH great product), I heard their player will have the same Itune store but in better, allowing people that bought Itune music to download it for free from MS's shop.
Bluetooth not sure about it but I heard it would have it...
Now it's going to be war with two forces that have quite the same power, it's only that one will have to conquer what the other already has, good luck :)]]>Jul 7th 2006 12:35AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/06/04/cringingly-blurry-pics-reveal-microsofts-ipod-killer/http://www.engadget.com/2006/06/04/cringingly-blurry-pics-reveal-microsofts-ipod-killer/Jul 7th 2006 2:53PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/06/04/cringingly-blurry-pics-reveal-microsofts-ipod-killer/http://www.engadget.com/2006/06/04/cringingly-blurry-pics-reveal-microsofts-ipod-killer/
I love the MVNO (look it up in google) idea. Waiting for Apple to do it themselves, Apple will introduce WIFI as well, trust me. It's been a while since Apple has reworked the ipod and when they do watch out.

Finally it's absolutely amazing how MS just loves Apple and continues to shamelessly adopt, er copy, their successes - which by the way is almost everything they do. Heck, they even demoed Vista on a MacBookPro.

I guess MS is just so innovative.]]>Jul 7th 2006 5:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/06/04/cringingly-blurry-pics-reveal-microsofts-ipod-killer/http://www.engadget.com/2006/06/04/cringingly-blurry-pics-reveal-microsofts-ipod-killer/Jul 8th 2006 1:17AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/06/04/cringingly-blurry-pics-reveal-microsofts-ipod-killer/http://www.engadget.com/2006/06/04/cringingly-blurry-pics-reveal-microsofts-ipod-killer/
Such anger... Tsk tsk. Someone's a little sensitive. Maybe, perhaps, I don't know, Microsoft SUCKS. Used to build computers; my last was an ASUS P4P800 with 8 gigs ram, two Western Digital Caviar drives, Soundblaster Audigy ZS, Lian Li Aluminum case, A DL-DVD+R Drive, etc. running on an 23" Aluminum Apple HD Cinema Display - which was the only thing that never crashed 100+ times. Windows is just SOFTWARE, Apple is NOT open architecture hardware hence the quality control. I had to buy a Powerbook G4 for grad school at Columbia and FELL IN LOVE, so now I own a Power Mac Dual Core 2.3 G5 and IT HASN'T HAD ONE PROBLEM. Which is why with the new Intel Macs (which can cold boot Windows, although I don't know WHY you would want to) A LOT of people are wisening up and dishing out the extra cash for better machines. Windows Vista hasn't even come out five years later, Mac OS 10.4 has had more than five revisions with OS X Leopard 10.5 coming out at the end of the year. So please, tell me why Mac users are idiots? lol (something also tells me if you compared the average IQ of a Mac user v. a Windows user, we'd dust ya...]]>Jul 9th 2006 11:02AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/06/04/cringingly-blurry-pics-reveal-microsofts-ipod-killer/http://www.engadget.com/2006/06/04/cringingly-blurry-pics-reveal-microsofts-ipod-killer/Jul 10th 2006 4:43PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/06/04/cringingly-blurry-pics-reveal-microsofts-ipod-killer/http://www.engadget.com/2006/06/04/cringingly-blurry-pics-reveal-microsofts-ipod-killer/
May I ask how you managed to get 8 GB of RAM onto an ASUS P4P800, when these motherboards support a maximum of 4 GB?

Or are you just making things up so that people think you are "cool"?]]>Jul 11th 2006 3:01AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/06/04/cringingly-blurry-pics-reveal-microsofts-ipod-killer/http://www.engadget.com/2006/06/04/cringingly-blurry-pics-reveal-microsofts-ipod-killer/Jul 11th 2006 6:29AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/06/04/cringingly-blurry-pics-reveal-microsofts-ipod-killer/http://www.engadget.com/2006/06/04/cringingly-blurry-pics-reveal-microsofts-ipod-killer/
Grow up people. There is no "OS war" and there will be no eventual winner. There's more to life than petty bickering.]]>Jul 11th 2006 8:00AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/06/04/cringingly-blurry-pics-reveal-microsofts-ipod-killer/http://www.engadget.com/2006/06/04/cringingly-blurry-pics-reveal-microsofts-ipod-killer/Jul 11th 2006 11:53AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/06/04/cringingly-blurry-pics-reveal-microsofts-ipod-killer/http://www.engadget.com/2006/06/04/cringingly-blurry-pics-reveal-microsofts-ipod-killer/Jul 11th 2006 12:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/06/04/cringingly-blurry-pics-reveal-microsofts-ipod-killer/http://www.engadget.com/2006/06/04/cringingly-blurry-pics-reveal-microsofts-ipod-killer/Jul 11th 2006 2:42PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/06/04/cringingly-blurry-pics-reveal-microsofts-ipod-killer/http://www.engadget.com/2006/06/04/cringingly-blurry-pics-reveal-microsofts-ipod-killer/Jul 11th 2006 4:31PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/06/04/cringingly-blurry-pics-reveal-microsofts-ipod-killer/http://www.engadget.com/2006/06/04/cringingly-blurry-pics-reveal-microsofts-ipod-killer/
http://www.appleinsider.com/article.php?id=745]]>Jul 11th 2006 4:47PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/06/04/cringingly-blurry-pics-reveal-microsofts-ipod-killer/http://www.engadget.com/2006/06/04/cringingly-blurry-pics-reveal-microsofts-ipod-killer/
Well i think you would be wrong. As someone who worked for apples support line, and who now works in PC helpdesk, its a very different market.

Most apple people I supported were yuppies who thought they knew alot, but barely knew anything really about their computer. If you mean that alot of Apple employees are college grads, you would be right most likely. However, more PC users have certs, and PC knowledge, where apple users might be able to tell you the capital of cambodia - Phnom Penh BTW.]]>Jul 11th 2006 8:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/06/04/cringingly-blurry-pics-reveal-microsofts-ipod-killer/http://www.engadget.com/2006/06/04/cringingly-blurry-pics-reveal-microsofts-ipod-killer/
As an avid gamer and pc hobbyist, I've never owned an Apple product for two simple reasons:

1. PC Games - the culture, the hardware, the anticipation, E3, etc, can't beat it, can't experience it on a Mac. Period.

2. Modular PC hardware - love to research parts, build the systems, swap out crap, see how far it can overclock (yep, since my 486dx2-66!). Once again can't experience it on a Mac. Period.

If you aren't into these things, then enjoy your Mac that "just works," but for me... I find it boring. And the worst thing about Macs (honestly) is not the hardware or the OS (which are supposedly very solid), it's the annoying, self-righteous fan boys.]]>Jul 12th 2006 4:43AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/06/04/cringingly-blurry-pics-reveal-microsofts-ipod-killer/http://www.engadget.com/2006/06/04/cringingly-blurry-pics-reveal-microsofts-ipod-killer/
Long live competition!!!!]]>Jul 12th 2006 10:16AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/06/04/cringingly-blurry-pics-reveal-microsofts-ipod-killer/http://www.engadget.com/2006/06/04/cringingly-blurry-pics-reveal-microsofts-ipod-killer/ that this is microsoft doing all this stunts, then you are all kids.. so funny..
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They both work for different lifestyles. Mac users want a sexy, simple interface (a growing trend in computer marketing) multimedia abilities (IE iLife- iTunes, iMovie, etc). Windows users take advantage of the networking features for businesses and gamers. This is probably where a large part of PC user fanbases come in. After all, gaming is the third highest reason for computers.

There is no war between the companies. Microsoft has lent Apple their software time and time again. No wait. Because I'm a PC user, I'm sposed to say Apple stole Microsoft products like Office etc? Grow the fuck up. And Apple, while being trapped in a proprietary market to thrive, has been gracious enough to share some of their software on PCs. iTunes and iPod was originally a Mac only thing.

What ultimately sets them apart are fucks like all of you, who resent anything the companies teach each other. Now currently, I am pissed at both Apple and Microsoft. A) My iPod crashed with full battery life, and B) Yet another exploit in Windows has led to my computer being infected with a backdoor root kit. (Yes, laugh it up you fags. OMFG! mIcRoSuCK is PWNT! APPLE NO VIRUSES!)

But you know what? Part of this is due to my own error, because maybe I should have been more careful in arranging my updates and defragging my hard drive, if you Apple users know what that term means. There are numerous terms you don't know, just as most Windows users don't know what 'OS' or Safari is.

You are both equally retarded as you shame both of you respected companies by arguing. Put aside your emnity and rebuild this playground. We live in a capitalistic country, where no one company is allowed a monopoly in a certain industry. Microsoft and Apple control their respective industries, and in order to survive in the others, must use what worked and improve upon it.

Most of you are looking for invention AND innovation. Alas, this is not so. Microsoft innovated IBM's technology. Apple innovated Rio and other primitive MP3 players. They invented nothing new, so you hypocritical retards immediately say they copied such and such.

Many you have been watching too many movies and tv serials about corporate plots to know how the true business world works. There are giants and there are the little guys. Gee, if you want to fight over copycat business strategies, take it to Wal-Mart, Costco, and Target. Each 'borrowed' something from the other, but maybe you're afraid to go THERE because of the PCs or Ipods you bought there were made in China. They borrowed these concepts because they were already on top and couldn't assimilate each other. Now, let's plug this analogy into Microsoft and Apple.

Grow up, you fucking toddlers. You're equally stupid. You're equally matched.

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2) That thing is gross. What is that, '70s brown on the second one? As if the '70s weren't awful enough the first time.]]>Jul 15th 2006 12:03AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/06/04/cringingly-blurry-pics-reveal-microsofts-ipod-killer/http://www.engadget.com/2006/06/04/cringingly-blurry-pics-reveal-microsofts-ipod-killer/
PICS=FAKE!

blurry pics are the easiest pics to fake. stupid. nobody has learned anything.]]>Jul 15th 2006 1:09AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/06/04/cringingly-blurry-pics-reveal-microsofts-ipod-killer/http://www.engadget.com/2006/06/04/cringingly-blurry-pics-reveal-microsofts-ipod-killer/Jul 16th 2006 10:08PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/06/04/cringingly-blurry-pics-reveal-microsofts-ipod-killer/http://www.engadget.com/2006/06/04/cringingly-blurry-pics-reveal-microsofts-ipod-killer/
While, I agree with that statement of PC users not knowing what Safari is - OS, on the other hand is a universal term meaning "Operating System" whether you're a Mac or, PC user.]]>Jul 23rd 2006 7:16PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/06/04/cringingly-blurry-pics-reveal-microsofts-ipod-killer/http://www.engadget.com/2006/06/04/cringingly-blurry-pics-reveal-microsofts-ipod-killer/
As for averages and IQ lets not forget the bottom of the bell curve. Frankly the IQ point is weak. I don't know what the point of trying to figure out which group of users has a higher IQ. Specially based on case study and subjectivity.

I don't love Apple and I do dislike Microsoft. Simply because of the their business practices. The reason 90% of computers run is not necessarily because their products don't suck. Correlation does not equal causation. Apple and MS run on a different marketing strategies. Bill Gates and and his brain child MS have always been open about their goal to monopolize. He ran his business accordingly. That is also a scary approach to be trapped in as a consumer. Generally I run open source, because of this monopolistic human nature. My servers run Linux and Solaris, Apache software and PHP parsers not ASP. If you give someone the upper hand 2:1 they will take it. When you sign up with Microsoft it seems they they start to bleed you and make you suffer, locking you out of options to keep you fully invested and not because it is the better choice.
The irony is this was Apple's approach with iPod and iTunes and it worked. I believe that iPod and iTunes are the best products available when used together. They also use standard codecs; MP4 created by the International Organization for Standardization. MS will no doubt use WMA or a cousin. Maybe Steve Jobs insists on 99 cents a song, not because it will make him more money but because he believes it is a better for the customer to own their music; they don't feel like they can get screwed as easily. If he doesn't feel that way then I do. I don't think MS would make that distinction. Of course this is just my opinion, yet I have the feeling someone is going to try to tell me I am wrong. ]]>Jul 24th 2006 10:30AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/06/04/cringingly-blurry-pics-reveal-microsofts-ipod-killer/http://www.engadget.com/2006/06/04/cringingly-blurry-pics-reveal-microsofts-ipod-killer/Apr 15th 2009 9:11AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/06/04/cringingly-blurry-pics-reveal-microsofts-ipod-killer/http://www.engadget.com/2006/06/04/cringingly-blurry-pics-reveal-microsofts-ipod-killer/
Portable player A or B. That's not the main issue I feel. The tale will be "Who can BETTER SERVICE these devices?!" At least Apple has a place, all-be-it frustrating to have to go to, an Apple Retail Store with a device problem and have it serviced or replaced (except if some bonehead does not know how to care for a device-i.e. droppage, liquid damage, or exposure to excessive temperatures), THEIR BUSINESS MODEL WORKS-PERIOD.

If Microsoft is to make thousands to millions of converts from the "i" to the "z", somebody at MS BETTER be thinking of how to service their product. We shall see. Competition is what's great for us consumers, because it makes better and more advanced toys for us! Don't smear the companies. Let the challenges continue. If it weren’t for innovation, you people (myself as well) would be carting around a handbag sized cell phone or still listening to music via a Sony Walkman Cassette Player.

I'm for what works best and has Better Than Average technical service and support behind it. Tell me that you don't get frustrated when your only recourse is to talk to someone on the phone and/or mailing it in, then consider yourself a liar.

On and end note: judging from the blurred photo captures and art renderings, I can already feel the Carpal Tunnel Syndrome on my thumb from selecting the "pause and play" button. Ergonomics needs a little redesign.]]>Sep 10th 2006 10:39PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/06/04/cringingly-blurry-pics-reveal-microsofts-ipod-killer/http://www.engadget.com/2006/06/04/cringingly-blurry-pics-reveal-microsofts-ipod-killer/
Why do some folks have to hate PCs or MACs? People prefer one over the other for many valid reasons. I always get a kick out of MAC folks who think they are better than everyone else; not sure where that comes from (not enough love as a child or something)?

I personally switched from MAC to PC as soon as I had experience with both while working at a computer cafe during the Doom gaming explosion. I had used MAC all through college and contrary to commercials, it crashed fairly regularly at which time I would have to reboot the entire system instead of using Ctrl/Alt/Delete (like on a PC). My brother has a new MAC and that thing crashes regularly while we are multi-track recording music.

I have run a very successful computer marketing business over the last 10 years and it never could have been done with a MAC and its limited software availability.

So MAC users, love your MACs for whatever reason and PC users love your PCs for whatever reason. But Jesus, we don't have to belittle each other for our choices. That IS a bit childish.

Can't we all just get along?

Peace out

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