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Why would any one to do that? They showed the label it's Vista Capable.

So that means a nice stable just as secure OS as OSX and it works with all the millions of applications out there?

Why would I want OSX so I can plug my DRM ipod into it and have fun with the very very cheezy attempt to take on media center with the laughable front row?

No thanks I will take the super slick super secure Vista with built in media center anytime there applefanboy]]>Jul 7th 2006 6:46PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/07/07/hands-on-with-sonys-would-be-umpc-killer-the-ux180p/http://www.engadget.com/2006/07/07/hands-on-with-sonys-would-be-umpc-killer-the-ux180p/Jul 7th 2006 6:50PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/07/07/hands-on-with-sonys-would-be-umpc-killer-the-ux180p/http://www.engadget.com/2006/07/07/hands-on-with-sonys-would-be-umpc-killer-the-ux180p/
This seems to be the pot calling the kettle black. How are you so sure Vista is "slick" and "super secure"? It's not even in it's finished stages.]]>Jul 7th 2006 7:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/07/07/hands-on-with-sonys-would-be-umpc-killer-the-ux180p/http://www.engadget.com/2006/07/07/hands-on-with-sonys-would-be-umpc-killer-the-ux180p/
So he likes Mac OS. You don't. Why do you have to be such an ass?

AND why does every thread have to degenerate into a my dick (er, I mean OS) is bigger than yours.

Both systems have pros and cons. So let it rest aleady. ]]>Jul 7th 2006 7:05PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/07/07/hands-on-with-sonys-would-be-umpc-killer-the-ux180p/http://www.engadget.com/2006/07/07/hands-on-with-sonys-would-be-umpc-killer-the-ux180p/Jul 7th 2006 7:13PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/07/07/hands-on-with-sonys-would-be-umpc-killer-the-ux180p/http://www.engadget.com/2006/07/07/hands-on-with-sonys-would-be-umpc-killer-the-ux180p/will it boot off usb?]]>Jul 7th 2006 7:15PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/07/07/hands-on-with-sonys-would-be-umpc-killer-the-ux180p/http://www.engadget.com/2006/07/07/hands-on-with-sonys-would-be-umpc-killer-the-ux180p/Jul 7th 2006 7:19PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/07/07/hands-on-with-sonys-would-be-umpc-killer-the-ux180p/http://www.engadget.com/2006/07/07/hands-on-with-sonys-would-be-umpc-killer-the-ux180p/Jul 7th 2006 7:19PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/07/07/hands-on-with-sonys-would-be-umpc-killer-the-ux180p/http://www.engadget.com/2006/07/07/hands-on-with-sonys-would-be-umpc-killer-the-ux180p/
Personal opinion: Someone PUHLEASE come up with a better OS for these things... A linux distro really does need to be formed to support this/UMPC platform.

Besides OSX on this thing would be fairly cool.

Just my £0.02...]]>Jul 7th 2006 7:29PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/07/07/hands-on-with-sonys-would-be-umpc-killer-the-ux180p/http://www.engadget.com/2006/07/07/hands-on-with-sonys-would-be-umpc-killer-the-ux180p/Jul 7th 2006 7:31PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/07/07/hands-on-with-sonys-would-be-umpc-killer-the-ux180p/http://www.engadget.com/2006/07/07/hands-on-with-sonys-would-be-umpc-killer-the-ux180p/
It reminds me more of the OSX if you ask me... haha]]>Jul 7th 2006 7:43PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/07/07/hands-on-with-sonys-would-be-umpc-killer-the-ux180p/http://www.engadget.com/2006/07/07/hands-on-with-sonys-would-be-umpc-killer-the-ux180p/Jul 7th 2006 7:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/07/07/hands-on-with-sonys-would-be-umpc-killer-the-ux180p/http://www.engadget.com/2006/07/07/hands-on-with-sonys-would-be-umpc-killer-the-ux180p/Jul 7th 2006 7:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/07/07/hands-on-with-sonys-would-be-umpc-killer-the-ux180p/http://www.engadget.com/2006/07/07/hands-on-with-sonys-would-be-umpc-killer-the-ux180p/I thought a realy portable/small laptop would be great.
So i bought a Sony PCG-U101 some years ago. In retro: Fsck'ing expensiv mistake. Hopefully the machine will find a place in a museum or sumsuch.

A 7inch screen is ok. But the keyboard is not. Bought a small Cherry-keyb but it is just not satisfing to lug all that hw around.

My advice is to buy a good subnotebook or what goes for that these days. Everything under 2kg is portable. A full keyboard is a must. So widescreen..
There are a lot of systems that fit in that cat, ex for the full keyb.
If Sony wouldn' try to fsck me(/us) so often and not pay for it, i'd list some of their devs but:
SONY YOU HAVE LOST. *wiiiiiii*

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And if you want to go naked.. I like the E61 after i added a MB of python code.]]>Jul 7th 2006 7:59PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/07/07/hands-on-with-sonys-would-be-umpc-killer-the-ux180p/http://www.engadget.com/2006/07/07/hands-on-with-sonys-would-be-umpc-killer-the-ux180p/
And as long as the processor architecture is supported, one could get Linux on there. Ubuntu (my personal distro of choice) is about 700 MB, it would fit nicely. I assume it's an x86. Try it if you're adventurous...]]>Jul 7th 2006 8:01PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/07/07/hands-on-with-sonys-would-be-umpc-killer-the-ux180p/http://www.engadget.com/2006/07/07/hands-on-with-sonys-would-be-umpc-killer-the-ux180p/

Slick as this handheld beast looks (should of been clamshell though), the price kills the deal(same goes with the OQO). Soon as this hotness hit $800-$700 price tag, I'm all on them. If more UMPCs follow this design, and released at a more affordable price.. they can easily become the next must-have tech device (dare I say replacing teh Notebook/Laptop surge).

Eh, I guess I'll just to the *Averatec AHI* is released. Does anyone have any new info on it..

http://www.engadget.com/2006/06/07/averatecs-ahi-umpc-takes-shape/]]>Jul 7th 2006 8:44PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/07/07/hands-on-with-sonys-would-be-umpc-killer-the-ux180p/http://www.engadget.com/2006/07/07/hands-on-with-sonys-would-be-umpc-killer-the-ux180p/
http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=42310

I would be interested in knowing if this resolves your problem.]]>Jul 7th 2006 11:33PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/07/07/hands-on-with-sonys-would-be-umpc-killer-the-ux180p/http://www.engadget.com/2006/07/07/hands-on-with-sonys-would-be-umpc-killer-the-ux180p/Jul 8th 2006 1:08AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/07/07/hands-on-with-sonys-would-be-umpc-killer-the-ux180p/http://www.engadget.com/2006/07/07/hands-on-with-sonys-would-be-umpc-killer-the-ux180p/
My friend has the ux90 its cool but he had to reformat it becuase all the stuff sonty preloads slows that thing down bad. The camera is dumb i dont see the point its like a big ass crappy digital camera.

I would like it alot if it was faster its not worht 1k even when you get like 5 or 8 tabs open in firefox it slows down alot and the 8hr bat seems good but it seems to run out faster on a pc or maby it is becuase you just leave a pc on longer.]]>Jul 8th 2006 1:36AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/07/07/hands-on-with-sonys-would-be-umpc-killer-the-ux180p/http://www.engadget.com/2006/07/07/hands-on-with-sonys-would-be-umpc-killer-the-ux180p/
By the way, Amazon has a $150 rebate right now. It makes the price slightly more palatable.]]>Jul 8th 2006 2:13AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/07/07/hands-on-with-sonys-would-be-umpc-killer-the-ux180p/http://www.engadget.com/2006/07/07/hands-on-with-sonys-would-be-umpc-killer-the-ux180p/Jul 8th 2006 2:57AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/07/07/hands-on-with-sonys-would-be-umpc-killer-the-ux180p/http://www.engadget.com/2006/07/07/hands-on-with-sonys-would-be-umpc-killer-the-ux180p/Jul 8th 2006 3:12AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/07/07/hands-on-with-sonys-would-be-umpc-killer-the-ux180p/http://www.engadget.com/2006/07/07/hands-on-with-sonys-would-be-umpc-killer-the-ux180p/http://www.micropctalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=26 the reason has something to do the with the USB Root Hub for the built in camera. From the post:

1. Right-click on my computer.
2. Click on properties.
3. Go to the Hardware tab and click on the Device Manager button.
4. Expand the Universal Serial Bus Controllers section.
5. Right-click on the 5th USB Root Hub icon and select Properties.
6. Click on the Power Management tab.
7. Uncheck the box next to "Allow computer to turn off this device to save power."
8. Click OK.
9. Close the Device Manager.
10. Click OK on the System Properties window.
11. Restart the computer.

I tried it, and it's worked perfectly for me. All the original drivers worked on my machine as well, though I did have a problem with the Bluetooth drivers, solved by reinstalling the drivers from scratch.]]>Jul 8th 2006 8:57AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/07/07/hands-on-with-sonys-would-be-umpc-killer-the-ux180p/http://www.engadget.com/2006/07/07/hands-on-with-sonys-would-be-umpc-killer-the-ux180p/
http://mozy.org/vaio/]]>Jul 8th 2006 9:03AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/07/07/hands-on-with-sonys-would-be-umpc-killer-the-ux180p/http://www.engadget.com/2006/07/07/hands-on-with-sonys-would-be-umpc-killer-the-ux180p/
I got burned on the hardware when they dropped the Clie line of PalmOS handhelds, then again with software when they went out of their way to interfere with development on the PSP platform.

Nowadays I simply don't trust Sony with my large purchase dollars, or even my meduim ones.

20-dollar set of earbuds? -Absolutely

High-Technology tool/toys? -Been fooled twice, shame on me.]]>Jul 8th 2006 9:07AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/07/07/hands-on-with-sonys-would-be-umpc-killer-the-ux180p/http://www.engadget.com/2006/07/07/hands-on-with-sonys-would-be-umpc-killer-the-ux180p/1 Keyboard,
2 mouse,
3 screen (doesn't fill the screen yet).
4 USB is detected (obviously because we booted from it!), as is the
5 CardBus chipset (which houses the Cingular WWAN adapter).

What Doesn't Work:
1 The "VAIO Button",
2 Fingerprint scanner,
3 Intel WiFi card,
4 zoom buttons,
5 touchscreen (this might work if I look into it more..maybe later.), and finally... both the
6 camera's DON'T work.

Obivously drivers are required for ALL of these things to work.
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trying to use linux on a high-tech device eh?]]>Jul 8th 2006 10:03AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/07/07/hands-on-with-sonys-would-be-umpc-killer-the-ux180p/http://www.engadget.com/2006/07/07/hands-on-with-sonys-would-be-umpc-killer-the-ux180p/Jul 8th 2006 10:45AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/07/07/hands-on-with-sonys-would-be-umpc-killer-the-ux180p/http://www.engadget.com/2006/07/07/hands-on-with-sonys-would-be-umpc-killer-the-ux180p/
I'm a Mac guy at heart, but I've got to admit that this PC turned my head - and it's a lot of fun to use. The screen resolution is really amazing. Kind of hard to type on a keyboard of this size, especially with the edges on this model.

All things considered, very cool PC.]]>Jul 8th 2006 11:15AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/07/07/hands-on-with-sonys-would-be-umpc-killer-the-ux180p/http://www.engadget.com/2006/07/07/hands-on-with-sonys-would-be-umpc-killer-the-ux180p/Jul 8th 2006 11:53AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/07/07/hands-on-with-sonys-would-be-umpc-killer-the-ux180p/http://www.engadget.com/2006/07/07/hands-on-with-sonys-would-be-umpc-killer-the-ux180p/Jul 8th 2006 12:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/07/07/hands-on-with-sonys-would-be-umpc-killer-the-ux180p/http://www.engadget.com/2006/07/07/hands-on-with-sonys-would-be-umpc-killer-the-ux180p/How long will the batteries last on continuous video? (Can I use it as a movie player on an airplane for long periods of time?)
What are the dimensions? Is it REALLY unpocketable?
How do you protect the screen when not being used?]]>Jul 8th 2006 1:19PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/07/07/hands-on-with-sonys-would-be-umpc-killer-the-ux180p/http://www.engadget.com/2006/07/07/hands-on-with-sonys-would-be-umpc-killer-the-ux180p/Jul 8th 2006 1:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/07/07/hands-on-with-sonys-would-be-umpc-killer-the-ux180p/http://www.engadget.com/2006/07/07/hands-on-with-sonys-would-be-umpc-killer-the-ux180p/Jul 8th 2006 3:05PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/07/07/hands-on-with-sonys-would-be-umpc-killer-the-ux180p/http://www.engadget.com/2006/07/07/hands-on-with-sonys-would-be-umpc-killer-the-ux180p/Jul 8th 2006 4:10PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/07/07/hands-on-with-sonys-would-be-umpc-killer-the-ux180p/http://www.engadget.com/2006/07/07/hands-on-with-sonys-would-be-umpc-killer-the-ux180p/
And to all those vista guys, just thought you should know I have recieved 3 betas, it looks cool (although very osx ish) but filled with bugs, you can set your watch by the cashes.

For now osx has the uper hand, but well see......]]>Jul 9th 2006 4:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/07/07/hands-on-with-sonys-would-be-umpc-killer-the-ux180p/http://www.engadget.com/2006/07/07/hands-on-with-sonys-would-be-umpc-killer-the-ux180p/
Bob]]>Jul 10th 2006 9:24AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/07/07/hands-on-with-sonys-would-be-umpc-killer-the-ux180p/http://www.engadget.com/2006/07/07/hands-on-with-sonys-would-be-umpc-killer-the-ux180p/Jul 11th 2006 3:02AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/07/07/hands-on-with-sonys-would-be-umpc-killer-the-ux180p/http://www.engadget.com/2006/07/07/hands-on-with-sonys-would-be-umpc-killer-the-ux180p/Jul 11th 2006 3:28PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/07/07/hands-on-with-sonys-would-be-umpc-killer-the-ux180p/http://www.engadget.com/2006/07/07/hands-on-with-sonys-would-be-umpc-killer-the-ux180p/Jul 12th 2006 12:29AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/07/07/hands-on-with-sonys-would-be-umpc-killer-the-ux180p/http://www.engadget.com/2006/07/07/hands-on-with-sonys-would-be-umpc-killer-the-ux180p/http://pocketables.blogspot.com for continuing coverage of the UX180P. Great, friendly forum community at http://www.handtops.com and lots of info at http://www.micropctalk.com.]]>Jul 13th 2006 5:30AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/07/07/hands-on-with-sonys-would-be-umpc-killer-the-ux180p/http://www.engadget.com/2006/07/07/hands-on-with-sonys-would-be-umpc-killer-the-ux180p/Jul 19th 2006 8:01PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/07/07/hands-on-with-sonys-would-be-umpc-killer-the-ux180p/http://www.engadget.com/2006/07/07/hands-on-with-sonys-would-be-umpc-killer-the-ux180p/
does anyone knows this model ???
It seems that it is lighter 492g instead of 520g and it is BLACK

http://www.jp.sonystyle.com/Style-a/Product/U/index.html

But is it available in US ?
Are there other differences ?
It is not my language ;)
]]>Jul 27th 2006 8:41AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/07/07/hands-on-with-sonys-would-be-umpc-killer-the-ux180p/http://www.engadget.com/2006/07/07/hands-on-with-sonys-would-be-umpc-killer-the-ux180p/The black model is a flash memory version. It has a 16GB flash memory instead of a hard drive. That is the major difference in the two. Everything else is pretty much the same. That may explain the difference in weight. As of right now this version in not available in the U.S., nor do I think it will be. ]]>Aug 7th 2006 4:58AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/07/07/hands-on-with-sonys-would-be-umpc-killer-the-ux180p/http://www.engadget.com/2006/07/07/hands-on-with-sonys-would-be-umpc-killer-the-ux180p/Aug 8th 2006 12:32PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/07/07/hands-on-with-sonys-would-be-umpc-killer-the-ux180p/http://www.engadget.com/2006/07/07/hands-on-with-sonys-would-be-umpc-killer-the-ux180p/
When everyon had that kissing bug virus years ago, windows system crashed and thank GOD I had dumped my Pocket PC when a few of my files were lost, mostly MS things.

My palm, while everyone lost their OutLook contacts, my computer was lost, but a quick format and reinstall, then a hotsync and voila! I'm up and running like nothing ever happened.

The palm os Palm Desktop rules in my book, I do not just use it for addresses, I use it for:

notes, recipes, game descriptions, codes, website urls, books I want to buy, html and flash codes (not compiled and editable).

Other Palm Os features include: video playback and mp3 playback.

True it is dated technology, but once your windows device crashes or COMPLETELY FAILS on you, you will appreciate Palm Os, though it is slowly being pushed out by jack-of-all-too-many-trades Windows.

That's my two cents. The PSP should be upgraded to the PSP2 and be VERY similar to the Muylo with a qwerty keyboard and THEN you gots me.

]]>Aug 10th 2006 11:31AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/07/07/hands-on-with-sonys-would-be-umpc-killer-the-ux180p/http://www.engadget.com/2006/07/07/hands-on-with-sonys-would-be-umpc-killer-the-ux180p/Aug 26th 2006 7:20PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/07/07/hands-on-with-sonys-would-be-umpc-killer-the-ux180p/http://www.engadget.com/2006/07/07/hands-on-with-sonys-would-be-umpc-killer-the-ux180p/
Sony needs to focus on battery life and dropping the crap-ware that is sent with every OS. If they want these to sell they need to work without special programs and for longer than 2 hours without reverting back to power sockets. The average plane flight lasts for between 4 and 6 hours and a second battery is too expensive to justify over the machine. Come on Sony - if you are "Like no other" start to prove it beyond your overpaid marketeers!]]>Aug 28th 2006 4:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/07/07/hands-on-with-sonys-would-be-umpc-killer-the-ux180p/http://www.engadget.com/2006/07/07/hands-on-with-sonys-would-be-umpc-killer-the-ux180p/
ok, I'm an OS X / AMD / CDMA fanboy, but those are my opinions on how to make this ditty better. If it was thinner, I'd look into it, the other dimensions I don't mind because my clie(coincidentially also a UX series, sony must be implying something to former customers, "this device is too expensive and doesnt have great battery, but its feature set and uniqueness are unmatched") gets swallowed by most of my pockets.

As with my clie and my psp, if this device ever makes it into my collection of "good idea, bad execution" sony portables, it will be well after the device is released, when its available on ebay, or stolen from the store and put on the black market, for cheap.]]>Sep 3rd 2006 3:30AM