http://www.engadget.com/2006/07/19/cinemanow-launches-burn-to-dvd-service-for-select-films/ Engadget Comments for CinemaNow launches "Burn to DVD" service for select films http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2006/07/19/cinemanow-launches-burn-to-dvd-service-for-select-films/http://www.engadget.com/2006/07/19/cinemanow-launches-burn-to-dvd-service-for-select-films/
I'll go to walmart and pick up the same movie on DVD, professionally made, for $4.50

Or i'll just rent it from Netflix for about a dollar assuming i pay $15 and rent 15 movies a month.

Maybe for like 1.99 it would be worth considering, but for a CENT over $5 this is a worthless service.

damn greedy movie companies... they gouge prices and wonder why their crappy new "services" never work.

what we need is the iTMS to allow burning to DVD. ...and fixed prices, and wide selections, damnit.]]>Jul 19th 2006 4:09PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/07/19/cinemanow-launches-burn-to-dvd-service-for-select-films/http://www.engadget.com/2006/07/19/cinemanow-launches-burn-to-dvd-service-for-select-films/Jul 19th 2006 4:23PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/07/19/cinemanow-launches-burn-to-dvd-service-for-select-films/http://www.engadget.com/2006/07/19/cinemanow-launches-burn-to-dvd-service-for-select-films/Jul 19th 2006 4:45PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/07/19/cinemanow-launches-burn-to-dvd-service-for-select-films/http://www.engadget.com/2006/07/19/cinemanow-launches-burn-to-dvd-service-for-select-films/
I think $9 for some of the titles is more than a reasonable and as any person with a sizable DVD collection knows, eventually those boxes take up too much space. ]]>Jul 19th 2006 4:54PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/07/19/cinemanow-launches-burn-to-dvd-service-for-select-films/http://www.engadget.com/2006/07/19/cinemanow-launches-burn-to-dvd-service-for-select-films/
Seriously, a download should be much cheaper than the original title. The movie companies are saving on packaging (which is cheap), shipping (cheap), and retail mark-up (not so cheap). They should figure out how much it costs to sell a DVD, then subtract the materials/shipping/mark-up costs, then sell the download for that price.

But hey, logic never did seem to be popular with the masses.]]>Jul 19th 2006 5:28PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/07/19/cinemanow-launches-burn-to-dvd-service-for-select-films/http://www.engadget.com/2006/07/19/cinemanow-launches-burn-to-dvd-service-for-select-films/
The problem is that it's the consumer that needs to actually buy these things. Your way of thinking is exactly how these sorts of plans go down in board meetings - "screw the consumer, we think $9 is totally reasonable!" Yeah, well, that's not exactly how successful plans are made.

If consumers are "greedy", you need to cater to that greed. It doesn't matter what your judgment of consumer tastes is; you can't dictate what a consumer is willing to spend on a product. Consumers are willing to spend what consumers are willing to spend.

And Jeff gave you a whole lot of reasons why he doesn't think consumers will be willing to spend $9 per title. For myself, as a Netflix renter, I see no reason to spend $9 on a DVD I can rent for what amounts to nothing (I'm on an unlimited plan). I do still buy DVD's but the DVD's I buy are those special movies that I want to keep for archival purposes - and I'm not going to be replacing those with downloaded and burned copies I've made myself, because the whole *point* is having a nice package that I own.

I think the bottom line is that it's Netflix's model that works for movies and if anyone's going to be successful in movie downloads, it'll be them. I'm just waiting to see what they do.

Movielink and CinemaNow were DOA long ago, and no amount of CPR is going to bring them back from the dead. Certainly not charging $9 for a data file you've got to burn on your own disc.]]>Jul 19th 2006 5:33PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/07/19/cinemanow-launches-burn-to-dvd-service-for-select-films/http://www.engadget.com/2006/07/19/cinemanow-launches-burn-to-dvd-service-for-select-films/
First of all, yes, we all enjoy the cover art of DVD's. Some people even like to show them off. But, I am in college and my tiny apartment dosen't seem to have enough space for 200+ DVD cases.

So here is what I did. I went out and got the 64 CD holders (reasonable size i think) and put all my movies in there in ABC order. Then went to IMDB and got the image of each DVD cover art and put that in an excel file.

Now when friends come over and want to watch something all I do is hand them 5 sheets of paper with all the cover art and then a printed list (for those youngins who still enjoy reading). It works great.

I would love to be able to just buy the movie and not have to mess with storing all the cases.

Bob]]>Jul 19th 2006 6:04PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/07/19/cinemanow-launches-burn-to-dvd-service-for-select-films/http://www.engadget.com/2006/07/19/cinemanow-launches-burn-to-dvd-service-for-select-films/
But the studios should not be taking existing prices and subtracting all costs they eliminate. There are additional costs ultimately for the distributors (bandwidth and others). But more importantly, the entire goal of moving towards new digital formats is that there is greater convenience for the consumer as well.

So... what you do is this: try to establish a price you think the consumer will pay while still ensuring some profit.

That's fair. I don't think all the conveniences are here yet, and I don't think they've got it right yet. But Apple did a pretty good job with music. Maybe slightly more expensive, maybe slightly less, but worth it for the convenience, simplicity, and ability to grab singles.

Presumably the same can be done with movies in some form. It's not just a matter of: it's got to be much, much cheaper.]]>Jul 19th 2006 6:14PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/07/19/cinemanow-launches-burn-to-dvd-service-for-select-films/http://www.engadget.com/2006/07/19/cinemanow-launches-burn-to-dvd-service-for-select-films/
I have bookshelves full of books, and another full of DVDs (and videotapes, and even about 30 laserdiscs, haha) ...Space is not an issue at all.

and i'm exactly the type of fool that RE-buys in new formats (the movie studio's prime customer) ...i have The Fifth Element on VHS, Laserdisc, DVD, Superbit DVD, and in about 6 months, BluRay.

Even though 18-24 year olds are a great market demographic, i somehow doubt the space-saving college dorm market is really where the DVD money comes from . (in fact i think that a majority of pirating comes from there.)
The way to get into that market, where physical space is an issue, is to stay all digital. What use do you have, really, for a DVD collection, when theoretically you could have a single xbox-sized device with a digital catalogue of thousands of movies? How about an iPod sized devices?]]>Jul 19th 2006 6:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/07/19/cinemanow-launches-burn-to-dvd-service-for-select-films/http://www.engadget.com/2006/07/19/cinemanow-launches-burn-to-dvd-service-for-select-films/
Now if these movies were a flat-rate $9, and their catalogue of movies was ENORMOUS, along with new releases being available 0-day, with VERY fast connection speeds, we might have something.

...but starting it out with back-catalogue bargain movies at (what i consider, for the market) premium pricing, this thing is just destined to flop.

also: "Burnable titles start at $8.99" ....Starting? what do you think they'll charge for New Releases that WEREN'T boxoffice flops?

how about this: "as of May 2, 2005, Movielink no longer supports Windows 98 and ME operating systems. Movielink also does not support Mac or Linux."

that's pathetic - give me a break.]]>Jul 19th 2006 6:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/07/19/cinemanow-launches-burn-to-dvd-service-for-select-films/http://www.engadget.com/2006/07/19/cinemanow-launches-burn-to-dvd-service-for-select-films/
Sounds a lot like gougeing to me also.

(BTW I don't think ANY website should support Windows ME, let alone that anyone should own it)]]>Jul 19th 2006 7:04PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/07/19/cinemanow-launches-burn-to-dvd-service-for-select-films/http://www.engadget.com/2006/07/19/cinemanow-launches-burn-to-dvd-service-for-select-films/
They say it will take 3 hours to download!!!

Best buy and Blockbuster are 10mins away.]]>Jul 19th 2006 8:33PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/07/19/cinemanow-launches-burn-to-dvd-service-for-select-films/http://www.engadget.com/2006/07/19/cinemanow-launches-burn-to-dvd-service-for-select-films/Jul 19th 2006 11:14PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/07/19/cinemanow-launches-burn-to-dvd-service-for-select-films/http://www.engadget.com/2006/07/19/cinemanow-launches-burn-to-dvd-service-for-select-films/
For the film only, many of the other posters have it right: why pay $9 plus however many hours it takes to download, when you can pop over to your local store and get even more for less than half price in a matter of minutes?

Sure, some people may go for this, but, isn't there an expression "another sucker is born every minute" or something like that?]]>Jul 20th 2006 5:01AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/07/19/cinemanow-launches-burn-to-dvd-service-for-select-films/http://www.engadget.com/2006/07/19/cinemanow-launches-burn-to-dvd-service-for-select-films/Jul 20th 2006 9:30AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/07/19/cinemanow-launches-burn-to-dvd-service-for-select-films/http://www.engadget.com/2006/07/19/cinemanow-launches-burn-to-dvd-service-for-select-films/http://youtube.com/watch?v=RZ6HZtq3GXY). So much for their great copy protection.]]>Jul 21st 2006 12:44AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/07/19/cinemanow-launches-burn-to-dvd-service-for-select-films/http://www.engadget.com/2006/07/19/cinemanow-launches-burn-to-dvd-service-for-select-films/The industry is just now trying to recover money spent to illegal movie exchange and dl thru P2P clients.

If these same companies weren't so greedy and had offered movies for legal dl in the first place maybe they could have set a precidence instead of being followers.]]>Jul 28th 2006 11:20AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/07/19/cinemanow-launches-burn-to-dvd-service-for-select-films/http://www.engadget.com/2006/07/19/cinemanow-launches-burn-to-dvd-service-for-select-films/Aug 2nd 2006 4:45PM