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offtopic: TDK is working on 100GB disc ;)]]>Aug 16th 2006 10:23AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/08/16/sony-gets-their-50gb-dual-layer-blu-ray-discs-out-the-door/http://www.engadget.com/2006/08/16/sony-gets-their-50gb-dual-layer-blu-ray-discs-out-the-door/Aug 16th 2006 10:29AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/08/16/sony-gets-their-50gb-dual-layer-blu-ray-discs-out-the-door/http://www.engadget.com/2006/08/16/sony-gets-their-50gb-dual-layer-blu-ray-discs-out-the-door/Aug 16th 2006 10:32AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/08/16/sony-gets-their-50gb-dual-layer-blu-ray-discs-out-the-door/http://www.engadget.com/2006/08/16/sony-gets-their-50gb-dual-layer-blu-ray-discs-out-the-door/I wanted a quad layer 100GB disc so I could put my friends new laptop to shame. Aw well at least Sony appears to be doing Blu-Ray to help the customer for a change, or maybe they'l put a rootkit on the DVDs so it counts how many times you play it in a PC when you actually can!]]>Aug 16th 2006 10:34AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/08/16/sony-gets-their-50gb-dual-layer-blu-ray-discs-out-the-door/http://www.engadget.com/2006/08/16/sony-gets-their-50gb-dual-layer-blu-ray-discs-out-the-door/
I'd rather have 10 200GB HDs than 40 BR-DVDs. Faster access, no $1000 drive, and Cheaper too.]]>Aug 16th 2006 10:43AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/08/16/sony-gets-their-50gb-dual-layer-blu-ray-discs-out-the-door/http://www.engadget.com/2006/08/16/sony-gets-their-50gb-dual-layer-blu-ray-discs-out-the-door/
I seriously doubt there is a line of nerds waiting at Circuit City to buy this. 3 disks and you can buy a big external hard drive...]]>Aug 16th 2006 10:51AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/08/16/sony-gets-their-50gb-dual-layer-blu-ray-discs-out-the-door/http://www.engadget.com/2006/08/16/sony-gets-their-50gb-dual-layer-blu-ray-discs-out-the-door/http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16822144701

Sata external enclosure: 22.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16817146318

Total cost? $90.98
For less than the cost of two of these, you get 2.5x more space.

Not to mention it's much faster, re-writable, and you don't need an expensive blu-ray drive.]]>Aug 16th 2006 10:53AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/08/16/sony-gets-their-50gb-dual-layer-blu-ray-discs-out-the-door/http://www.engadget.com/2006/08/16/sony-gets-their-50gb-dual-layer-blu-ray-discs-out-the-door/Aug 16th 2006 10:53AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/08/16/sony-gets-their-50gb-dual-layer-blu-ray-discs-out-the-door/http://www.engadget.com/2006/08/16/sony-gets-their-50gb-dual-layer-blu-ray-discs-out-the-door/The price difference here is portibility and new technology. If these things do catch on then they will be easier to transport (mail/carry/kick) and dispose of than a hard drive.

Also you know it's Sony and it's proprietary so it'll be expensive. See Memory Stick (in all of it's infinite formats)]]>Aug 16th 2006 10:57AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/08/16/sony-gets-their-50gb-dual-layer-blu-ray-discs-out-the-door/http://www.engadget.com/2006/08/16/sony-gets-their-50gb-dual-layer-blu-ray-discs-out-the-door/Aug 16th 2006 10:59AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/08/16/sony-gets-their-50gb-dual-layer-blu-ray-discs-out-the-door/http://www.engadget.com/2006/08/16/sony-gets-their-50gb-dual-layer-blu-ray-discs-out-the-door/
If hard drives were the way to go, then I would be walking around with about 3 right now. Putting then into a hard drive player. Oh and my shelf would be full of about 50 hard drives too.

Optical media obviously still has a place in the market, otherwise we be carrying hard drives around.]]>Aug 16th 2006 11:02AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/08/16/sony-gets-their-50gb-dual-layer-blu-ray-discs-out-the-door/http://www.engadget.com/2006/08/16/sony-gets-their-50gb-dual-layer-blu-ray-discs-out-the-door/Aug 16th 2006 11:10AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/08/16/sony-gets-their-50gb-dual-layer-blu-ray-discs-out-the-door/http://www.engadget.com/2006/08/16/sony-gets-their-50gb-dual-layer-blu-ray-discs-out-the-door/
On a side note. I hate to be Johnny NaySayer But, I would be anyone a shiny nickel that both Blu-Ray AND HD-DVD will fail. With holographic tech coming at the early sometime next year. No, the consumer needs something "special" to jump on a band wagon. I am not debating here. Just bookmark and come back in a year. You will see.]]>Aug 16th 2006 11:14AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/08/16/sony-gets-their-50gb-dual-layer-blu-ray-discs-out-the-door/http://www.engadget.com/2006/08/16/sony-gets-their-50gb-dual-layer-blu-ray-discs-out-the-door/
I carry a hard drive around and so does a few million other people... It's a little thing called an ipod. And while it may be more expensive than this BD it also holds more data (60gb variant) is faster, smaller, and re-writable. Oh and i dont need an expensive ipod player to use it. So factor in the cost of the drive and your well past the cost of an ipod/HDD.

So there is another comparison to complain about BD to iPod]]>Aug 16th 2006 11:16AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/08/16/sony-gets-their-50gb-dual-layer-blu-ray-discs-out-the-door/http://www.engadget.com/2006/08/16/sony-gets-their-50gb-dual-layer-blu-ray-discs-out-the-door/Aug 16th 2006 11:17AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/08/16/sony-gets-their-50gb-dual-layer-blu-ray-discs-out-the-door/http://www.engadget.com/2006/08/16/sony-gets-their-50gb-dual-layer-blu-ray-discs-out-the-door/
And besides the technology is in its infancy still, once it is started to be used in hi def dvds and the hi-def camdcorders become the norm its usage will emerge.

Give it a break...they will get cheaper, they have spent a large amount of R&D on creating this technology, they need to make some money back, dont you think?]]>Aug 16th 2006 11:18AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/08/16/sony-gets-their-50gb-dual-layer-blu-ray-discs-out-the-door/http://www.engadget.com/2006/08/16/sony-gets-their-50gb-dual-layer-blu-ray-discs-out-the-door/Aug 16th 2006 11:20AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/08/16/sony-gets-their-50gb-dual-layer-blu-ray-discs-out-the-door/http://www.engadget.com/2006/08/16/sony-gets-their-50gb-dual-layer-blu-ray-discs-out-the-door/Sep 27th 2006 6:59PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/08/16/sony-gets-their-50gb-dual-layer-blu-ray-discs-out-the-door/http://www.engadget.com/2006/08/16/sony-gets-their-50gb-dual-layer-blu-ray-discs-out-the-door/
Optical media obviously still has a place in the market, otherwise we be carrying hard drives around.

Well I don't see too many people carrying around a blu ray disc player]]>Aug 16th 2006 11:24AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/08/16/sony-gets-their-50gb-dual-layer-blu-ray-discs-out-the-door/http://www.engadget.com/2006/08/16/sony-gets-their-50gb-dual-layer-blu-ray-discs-out-the-door/
Don't be an ass. Think about what you say. Don't argue for the sake of arguement. It's not a mass-consumer product yet. It's still in it's infancy. Of course you don't see people walking around with it. But, I go back to my point. It will be here for a year or two. Then disappear with the miniDisc. The UMD. The Beta. The ZipDrive. The 2MB diskdrive. Even with the advante of the PS3 to push this thing along. It won't last. ]]>Aug 16th 2006 11:30AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/08/16/sony-gets-their-50gb-dual-layer-blu-ray-discs-out-the-door/http://www.engadget.com/2006/08/16/sony-gets-their-50gb-dual-layer-blu-ray-discs-out-the-door/Aug 16th 2006 11:30AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/08/16/sony-gets-their-50gb-dual-layer-blu-ray-discs-out-the-door/http://www.engadget.com/2006/08/16/sony-gets-their-50gb-dual-layer-blu-ray-discs-out-the-door/Aug 16th 2006 11:31AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/08/16/sony-gets-their-50gb-dual-layer-blu-ray-discs-out-the-door/http://www.engadget.com/2006/08/16/sony-gets-their-50gb-dual-layer-blu-ray-discs-out-the-door/Aug 16th 2006 11:32AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/08/16/sony-gets-their-50gb-dual-layer-blu-ray-discs-out-the-door/http://www.engadget.com/2006/08/16/sony-gets-their-50gb-dual-layer-blu-ray-discs-out-the-door/Aug 16th 2006 11:35AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/08/16/sony-gets-their-50gb-dual-layer-blu-ray-discs-out-the-door/http://www.engadget.com/2006/08/16/sony-gets-their-50gb-dual-layer-blu-ray-discs-out-the-door/Aug 16th 2006 11:41AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/08/16/sony-gets-their-50gb-dual-layer-blu-ray-discs-out-the-door/http://www.engadget.com/2006/08/16/sony-gets-their-50gb-dual-layer-blu-ray-discs-out-the-door/Aug 16th 2006 11:45AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/08/16/sony-gets-their-50gb-dual-layer-blu-ray-discs-out-the-door/http://www.engadget.com/2006/08/16/sony-gets-their-50gb-dual-layer-blu-ray-discs-out-the-door/Aug 16th 2006 11:47AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/08/16/sony-gets-their-50gb-dual-layer-blu-ray-discs-out-the-door/http://www.engadget.com/2006/08/16/sony-gets-their-50gb-dual-layer-blu-ray-discs-out-the-door/Aug 16th 2006 11:54AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/08/16/sony-gets-their-50gb-dual-layer-blu-ray-discs-out-the-door/http://www.engadget.com/2006/08/16/sony-gets-their-50gb-dual-layer-blu-ray-discs-out-the-door/Aug 16th 2006 11:55AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/08/16/sony-gets-their-50gb-dual-layer-blu-ray-discs-out-the-door/http://www.engadget.com/2006/08/16/sony-gets-their-50gb-dual-layer-blu-ray-discs-out-the-door/
reliability.

If there is some important data you aboslutely HAVE to have, I would feel safer having it burned onto a BD disc, and stored away for safe-keeping.

I've always been a bit paranoid about hard drives, since they are very prone to failure.

All this, even though I have never had a drive fail on me personally (knock knock)]]>Aug 16th 2006 11:58AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/08/16/sony-gets-their-50gb-dual-layer-blu-ray-discs-out-the-door/http://www.engadget.com/2006/08/16/sony-gets-their-50gb-dual-layer-blu-ray-discs-out-the-door/
...and ofcourse $48 is high, new media formats are always priced that way for the first year. No one is going to be buying these guys for some time. I'm sure quantities are very small too.]]>Aug 16th 2006 11:58AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/08/16/sony-gets-their-50gb-dual-layer-blu-ray-discs-out-the-door/http://www.engadget.com/2006/08/16/sony-gets-their-50gb-dual-layer-blu-ray-discs-out-the-door/
Are you f@#king serious? Comparing your 60GB, $400 iPod to a 50GB, $48 Blu Ray disc? Seriously, I don't think I've ever seen a less apt comparison. Of course the BD doesn't include a player, but you only need ONE player, to have unlimited media. There are many people who are benefiting from the much higher capacity of BDs.]]>Aug 16th 2006 12:00PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/08/16/sony-gets-their-50gb-dual-layer-blu-ray-discs-out-the-door/http://www.engadget.com/2006/08/16/sony-gets-their-50gb-dual-layer-blu-ray-discs-out-the-door/
The thing that's really troubling is that Sony is nowhere near capable of mass-producing 50gig BD-ROM's for movies. Say what you will about PC compatibility and the writable format, but the lack of 50gig BD-ROM's is not a good sign. If they don't remedy the situation, BD could end up being a niche writable format like DVD-RAM.

Yes, DVD-RAM is vastly superior to -R and +R, but it's still a niche within a niche.]]>Aug 16th 2006 12:08PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/08/16/sony-gets-their-50gb-dual-layer-blu-ray-discs-out-the-door/http://www.engadget.com/2006/08/16/sony-gets-their-50gb-dual-layer-blu-ray-discs-out-the-door/
BTW, the company that should be sweating right now is Iomega. I can't imagine someone buying their REV drives about 6 months from now. Smaller, more expensive, and probably less error proof.]]>Aug 16th 2006 12:18PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/08/16/sony-gets-their-50gb-dual-layer-blu-ray-discs-out-the-door/http://www.engadget.com/2006/08/16/sony-gets-their-50gb-dual-layer-blu-ray-discs-out-the-door/Aug 16th 2006 12:18PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/08/16/sony-gets-their-50gb-dual-layer-blu-ray-discs-out-the-door/http://www.engadget.com/2006/08/16/sony-gets-their-50gb-dual-layer-blu-ray-discs-out-the-door/
/I/ think its cool at least.]]>Aug 16th 2006 12:28PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/08/16/sony-gets-their-50gb-dual-layer-blu-ray-discs-out-the-door/http://www.engadget.com/2006/08/16/sony-gets-their-50gb-dual-layer-blu-ray-discs-out-the-door/Aug 16th 2006 12:50PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/08/16/sony-gets-their-50gb-dual-layer-blu-ray-discs-out-the-door/http://www.engadget.com/2006/08/16/sony-gets-their-50gb-dual-layer-blu-ray-discs-out-the-door/Aug 16th 2006 1:01PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/08/16/sony-gets-their-50gb-dual-layer-blu-ray-discs-out-the-door/http://www.engadget.com/2006/08/16/sony-gets-their-50gb-dual-layer-blu-ray-discs-out-the-door/
The ipod was a great example...it makes our media/data portable. Just like what the blu-ray disk is attempting to do. I realize cost will come down, but these are not even RW media..One burn and bye-bye, go buy another...and the talk about hard drives failing? What about when you burn that 48 dollar coaster (which we all have done...)...If these are RW then I'm sure someone will correct me... ]]>Aug 16th 2006 1:06PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/08/16/sony-gets-their-50gb-dual-layer-blu-ray-discs-out-the-door/http://www.engadget.com/2006/08/16/sony-gets-their-50gb-dual-layer-blu-ray-discs-out-the-door/
lol, i didnt pay for my ipod so the cost (for me anyhow) is a moot point. But since you brought it up good luck getting your Blu-Ray Disc to do anything without an expensive drive.

And since you apparently missed the sarcasm in my post, I was just kidding.]]>Aug 16th 2006 1:06PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/08/16/sony-gets-their-50gb-dual-layer-blu-ray-discs-out-the-door/http://www.engadget.com/2006/08/16/sony-gets-their-50gb-dual-layer-blu-ray-discs-out-the-door/Aug 16th 2006 1:27PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/08/16/sony-gets-their-50gb-dual-layer-blu-ray-discs-out-the-door/http://www.engadget.com/2006/08/16/sony-gets-their-50gb-dual-layer-blu-ray-discs-out-the-door/
Blu-ray 2x is roughly equivelent to 7x DVD. So it isn't that slow. If you think 2x is akin to the CD-ROM days you need a refresher course.]]>Aug 16th 2006 1:38PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/08/16/sony-gets-their-50gb-dual-layer-blu-ray-discs-out-the-door/http://www.engadget.com/2006/08/16/sony-gets-their-50gb-dual-layer-blu-ray-discs-out-the-door/
Looks like it'll be back to the infancy days of burning writable optical media....

Close all your apps except for the disc mastering software, disable your screen saver, defrag your hard drive, etc...

At $50 a shot I don't want to get 16GB into a burn and get "Burn Process Failed!: Buffer Underrun. Please try again"

]]>Aug 16th 2006 1:47PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/08/16/sony-gets-their-50gb-dual-layer-blu-ray-discs-out-the-door/http://www.engadget.com/2006/08/16/sony-gets-their-50gb-dual-layer-blu-ray-discs-out-the-door/Aug 16th 2006 1:53PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/08/16/sony-gets-their-50gb-dual-layer-blu-ray-discs-out-the-door/http://www.engadget.com/2006/08/16/sony-gets-their-50gb-dual-layer-blu-ray-discs-out-the-door/
Thanks for clarifying. I suppose I do need a refresher course. Perhaps you can enlighten me as to what this 2x means? 2x of what?]]>Aug 16th 2006 1:55PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/08/16/sony-gets-their-50gb-dual-layer-blu-ray-discs-out-the-door/http://www.engadget.com/2006/08/16/sony-gets-their-50gb-dual-layer-blu-ray-discs-out-the-door/
Ha Ha Ha Ha.

You go Sony, seriously girl, one more screwup and you're finished.]]>Aug 16th 2006 1:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/08/16/sony-gets-their-50gb-dual-layer-blu-ray-discs-out-the-door/http://www.engadget.com/2006/08/16/sony-gets-their-50gb-dual-layer-blu-ray-discs-out-the-door/
I realize that the cost for 400 discs is alot now, but you could start small, maybe 10-20 to backup the 1-2 TB RAID. Then you have tons of room for expansion, complete data portability, corruption protection, and low power consumption all while having 100% availability.

This would be great for those with the new TiVo S3, too. You could go on vacation for a year or two and still catch all your shows. :)]]>Aug 16th 2006 1:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/08/16/sony-gets-their-50gb-dual-layer-blu-ray-discs-out-the-door/http://www.engadget.com/2006/08/16/sony-gets-their-50gb-dual-layer-blu-ray-discs-out-the-door/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blu_ray]]>Aug 16th 2006 2:00PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/08/16/sony-gets-their-50gb-dual-layer-blu-ray-discs-out-the-door/http://www.engadget.com/2006/08/16/sony-gets-their-50gb-dual-layer-blu-ray-discs-out-the-door/Aug 16th 2006 3:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/08/16/sony-gets-their-50gb-dual-layer-blu-ray-discs-out-the-door/http://www.engadget.com/2006/08/16/sony-gets-their-50gb-dual-layer-blu-ray-discs-out-the-door/
"Oh yes, 50Gb on a blu-ray disk is much safer then on the HD where one single scratch won't render it useless."

How would you know that? Do you have a BluRay recorder and blanks? The recording layer of BluRay is so close to the surface that it needs the extra coating for scratch resistence. How scratch resistent is it? How are you going to scratch a HD disk? By opening it up? By throwing it around?]]>Aug 16th 2006 3:26PM