http://www.engadget.com/2006/08/16/wii-for-november-under-250-and-it-wont-have-hidden-fees-or-c/ Engadget Comments for Wii for November under $250, and it "won't have hidden fees or costs" http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2008 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2006/08/16/wii-for-november-under-250-and-it-wont-have-hidden-fees-or-c/http://www.engadget.com/2006/08/16/wii-for-november-under-250-and-it-wont-have-hidden-fees-or-c/Aug 16th 2006 2:39AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/08/16/wii-for-november-under-250-and-it-wont-have-hidden-fees-or-c/http://www.engadget.com/2006/08/16/wii-for-november-under-250-and-it-wont-have-hidden-fees-or-c/
- Tony R]]>Aug 16th 2006 2:44AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/08/16/wii-for-november-under-250-and-it-wont-have-hidden-fees-or-c/http://www.engadget.com/2006/08/16/wii-for-november-under-250-and-it-wont-have-hidden-fees-or-c/Aug 16th 2006 2:45AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/08/16/wii-for-november-under-250-and-it-wont-have-hidden-fees-or-c/http://www.engadget.com/2006/08/16/wii-for-november-under-250-and-it-wont-have-hidden-fees-or-c/Aug 16th 2006 2:45AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/08/16/wii-for-november-under-250-and-it-wont-have-hidden-fees-or-c/http://www.engadget.com/2006/08/16/wii-for-november-under-250-and-it-wont-have-hidden-fees-or-c/
i wounldn't really call the Wii a "next-gen" system. but i think that it's comfortably priced.]]>Aug 16th 2006 2:51AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/08/16/wii-for-november-under-250-and-it-wont-have-hidden-fees-or-c/http://www.engadget.com/2006/08/16/wii-for-november-under-250-and-it-wont-have-hidden-fees-or-c/
Just because it doesnt have a cell processor doesnt mean it doesnt cost money to make it.]]>Aug 16th 2006 2:59AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/08/16/wii-for-november-under-250-and-it-wont-have-hidden-fees-or-c/http://www.engadget.com/2006/08/16/wii-for-november-under-250-and-it-wont-have-hidden-fees-or-c/]]>Aug 16th 2006 3:03AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/08/16/wii-for-november-under-250-and-it-wont-have-hidden-fees-or-c/http://www.engadget.com/2006/08/16/wii-for-november-under-250-and-it-wont-have-hidden-fees-or-c/Aug 16th 2006 3:05AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/08/16/wii-for-november-under-250-and-it-wont-have-hidden-fees-or-c/http://www.engadget.com/2006/08/16/wii-for-november-under-250-and-it-wont-have-hidden-fees-or-c/
Just because the service is free, does not mean that downloadable content in general will be free.

And that downloadable content may be charged for is certainly not a hidden fee, so it most certainly is not going against calling the general service free.]]>Aug 16th 2006 3:07AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/08/16/wii-for-november-under-250-and-it-wont-have-hidden-fees-or-c/http://www.engadget.com/2006/08/16/wii-for-november-under-250-and-it-wont-have-hidden-fees-or-c/If you consider the difference of tech between the XBox/360, or the PS2/PS3, I'd say the Gamecube/Wii has the largest degree of separation in terms of tech. Maybe the processors inside are similar, but in terms of NEW technology, I think they're pretty high up in next-gen territory. At least to the level of innovation as the Blu-ray, and I personally think the Wiimote is a more innovative, immersive technology.

But yes, the Wii is next-gen, unless you're shallow and think purely in terms of increased graphics capability the vast majority of people either won't see because they don't have an HDTV, or favour gameplay over graphics.]]>Aug 16th 2006 3:14AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/08/16/wii-for-november-under-250-and-it-wont-have-hidden-fees-or-c/http://www.engadget.com/2006/08/16/wii-for-november-under-250-and-it-wont-have-hidden-fees-or-c/
AS it stands, $250 roughly translates to £150, which is a damn fine price for a new games console.

Hoepfully, the extra controllers wont cost too much, and i also hope the games arent much of £35 ($60 approx).

I'm very much looking forward to the release!]]>Aug 16th 2006 3:16AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/08/16/wii-for-november-under-250-and-it-wont-have-hidden-fees-or-c/http://www.engadget.com/2006/08/16/wii-for-november-under-250-and-it-wont-have-hidden-fees-or-c/
I remember Phantasy Star Online on the Dreamcast didn't charge for online gameplay either, that was one of the first examples of consoles online (other than Nintendo's Satellaview BS-X broadcast satellite system).]]>Aug 16th 2006 3:19AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/08/16/wii-for-november-under-250-and-it-wont-have-hidden-fees-or-c/http://www.engadget.com/2006/08/16/wii-for-november-under-250-and-it-wont-have-hidden-fees-or-c/Aug 16th 2006 3:22AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/08/16/wii-for-november-under-250-and-it-wont-have-hidden-fees-or-c/http://www.engadget.com/2006/08/16/wii-for-november-under-250-and-it-wont-have-hidden-fees-or-c/http://wii.ign.com/articles/710/710088p1.html]]>Aug 16th 2006 3:35AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/08/16/wii-for-november-under-250-and-it-wont-have-hidden-fees-or-c/http://www.engadget.com/2006/08/16/wii-for-november-under-250-and-it-wont-have-hidden-fees-or-c/
I agree with what most people have said on this thread, just becuase the Wii doesn't have the processing power of an entire render farm doesn't mean it isn't a great console.]]>Aug 16th 2006 3:35AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/08/16/wii-for-november-under-250-and-it-wont-have-hidden-fees-or-c/http://www.engadget.com/2006/08/16/wii-for-november-under-250-and-it-wont-have-hidden-fees-or-c/Aug 16th 2006 4:03AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/08/16/wii-for-november-under-250-and-it-wont-have-hidden-fees-or-c/http://www.engadget.com/2006/08/16/wii-for-november-under-250-and-it-wont-have-hidden-fees-or-c/into an equivalent of $350 for Europe.
It's all about taxes, currency and customs,
sure sure, we believe ya, but
I'm not buying that console here if Nintendo charges
less for it in the US and Japan.]]>Aug 16th 2006 4:06AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/08/16/wii-for-november-under-250-and-it-wont-have-hidden-fees-or-c/http://www.engadget.com/2006/08/16/wii-for-november-under-250-and-it-wont-have-hidden-fees-or-c/
My friend who is obsessed with the Wii says it'll launch HERE for 250 bucks. I've tried to explain the concept of currency exchange to him, but he refuses to accept it.

Me? I'm a PS3 man through and through. I'll get the Wii when it DOES get to 250 bucks, or lower. Like how I got the PS2 before GC]]>Aug 16th 2006 4:17AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/08/16/wii-for-november-under-250-and-it-wont-have-hidden-fees-or-c/http://www.engadget.com/2006/08/16/wii-for-november-under-250-and-it-wont-have-hidden-fees-or-c/Aug 16th 2006 4:32AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/08/16/wii-for-november-under-250-and-it-wont-have-hidden-fees-or-c/http://www.engadget.com/2006/08/16/wii-for-november-under-250-and-it-wont-have-hidden-fees-or-c/Aug 16th 2006 4:37AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/08/16/wii-for-november-under-250-and-it-wont-have-hidden-fees-or-c/http://www.engadget.com/2006/08/16/wii-for-november-under-250-and-it-wont-have-hidden-fees-or-c/into an equivalent of $350 for Europe."
How do you get that idea? I think it's more likely that it will translate to 200 Euros in Europe, maximum 250 (which would still be less than $350). In the past, e.g. the Gamecube price was $150 in the US and 150 Euros in Europe, but that was at a time when the exchange rate was rather close to 1:1. ]]>Aug 16th 2006 6:13AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/08/16/wii-for-november-under-250-and-it-wont-have-hidden-fees-or-c/http://www.engadget.com/2006/08/16/wii-for-november-under-250-and-it-wont-have-hidden-fees-or-c/Aug 16th 2006 6:51AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/08/16/wii-for-november-under-250-and-it-wont-have-hidden-fees-or-c/http://www.engadget.com/2006/08/16/wii-for-november-under-250-and-it-wont-have-hidden-fees-or-c/
i don't know maybe I'm missing something it just seems odd to me.]]>Aug 16th 2006 8:08AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/08/16/wii-for-november-under-250-and-it-wont-have-hidden-fees-or-c/http://www.engadget.com/2006/08/16/wii-for-november-under-250-and-it-wont-have-hidden-fees-or-c/http://www.engadget.com/2006/05/26/uk-to-pay-about-the-same-for-wii-as-us-japan/]]>Aug 16th 2006 8:44AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/08/16/wii-for-november-under-250-and-it-wont-have-hidden-fees-or-c/http://www.engadget.com/2006/08/16/wii-for-november-under-250-and-it-wont-have-hidden-fees-or-c/Aug 16th 2006 8:47AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/08/16/wii-for-november-under-250-and-it-wont-have-hidden-fees-or-c/http://www.engadget.com/2006/08/16/wii-for-november-under-250-and-it-wont-have-hidden-fees-or-c/Aug 16th 2006 9:00AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/08/16/wii-for-november-under-250-and-it-wont-have-hidden-fees-or-c/http://www.engadget.com/2006/08/16/wii-for-november-under-250-and-it-wont-have-hidden-fees-or-c/Processor: 729 MHz IBM Broadway
Graphics card: 243 MHz ATI Hollywood
RAM: 88 MB
Launch date: November 2006
Price: Under $250

Wait - - 88 MB of RAM? 729MHz Processor???? Jesus! Clunkity Clunk.]]>Aug 16th 2006 9:13AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/08/16/wii-for-november-under-250-and-it-wont-have-hidden-fees-or-c/http://www.engadget.com/2006/08/16/wii-for-november-under-250-and-it-wont-have-hidden-fees-or-c/Aug 16th 2006 9:22AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/08/16/wii-for-november-under-250-and-it-wont-have-hidden-fees-or-c/http://www.engadget.com/2006/08/16/wii-for-november-under-250-and-it-wont-have-hidden-fees-or-c/
FFXI for 360 doesn't require Gold. It bypasses all the XBL features and plugs directly into Squeenix's PlayOnline servers. For a fee.



]]>Aug 16th 2006 9:34AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/08/16/wii-for-november-under-250-and-it-wont-have-hidden-fees-or-c/http://www.engadget.com/2006/08/16/wii-for-november-under-250-and-it-wont-have-hidden-fees-or-c/Aug 16th 2006 9:41AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/08/16/wii-for-november-under-250-and-it-wont-have-hidden-fees-or-c/http://www.engadget.com/2006/08/16/wii-for-november-under-250-and-it-wont-have-hidden-fees-or-c/"Classic Corner" =! Free

You will be able to play SSMB with your friends over your the internet for free, but you will not be able to play SMB3 for free. Get it? Good.

The real question you should be asking is, "Will 'classic' games be able to have multiplayer over the internet?" instead of worrying about if the Revolution is Next-gen or not. (I refuse to call it anything but that.)]]>Aug 16th 2006 9:44AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/08/16/wii-for-november-under-250-and-it-wont-have-hidden-fees-or-c/http://www.engadget.com/2006/08/16/wii-for-november-under-250-and-it-wont-have-hidden-fees-or-c/
Pure system power and graphics aren't the only factor to consider when discussing "next-gen". I'd say a new way of interacting with the player is also "next-gen". If you really wanna get picky, then the PS3 I'd say is rather "current-gen" as it will be outdated more quickly then you can imagine by PC technology.

To me: Xbox 360 and PS3 = last-gen and Wii = next-gen. The PS3 is just a PS2 with fancier graphics, how is that next-gen? If I take a Porsche and make it prettier but essentially change nothing about how it drives and double the price, do you consider it a great leap in technology? I don't think so.]]>Aug 16th 2006 9:46AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/08/16/wii-for-november-under-250-and-it-wont-have-hidden-fees-or-c/http://www.engadget.com/2006/08/16/wii-for-november-under-250-and-it-wont-have-hidden-fees-or-c/
Well, version 1 didn't, but version 2 required a "hunter's license" for online play, at $8.95 a month.]]>Aug 16th 2006 10:10AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/08/16/wii-for-november-under-250-and-it-wont-have-hidden-fees-or-c/http://www.engadget.com/2006/08/16/wii-for-november-under-250-and-it-wont-have-hidden-fees-or-c/
I understand your concern, AUA, but you are talking about things Nintendo released almost 20 years ago. Not really a fair comparison, I don't think. Plus, those were all add-ons to the original NES. Nintendo seems confident enough about this controller, or they wouldn't design their entire console around it. Sure, Nintendo has made it's share of mistakes in the past, but we're talking about a company that's been around since 1889. I seriously doubt they would make such a fatal mistake as launching with a controller that simply doesn't work. It's not like they are claiming that the Wii uses mind control.]]>Aug 16th 2006 10:17AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/08/16/wii-for-november-under-250-and-it-wont-have-hidden-fees-or-c/http://www.engadget.com/2006/08/16/wii-for-november-under-250-and-it-wont-have-hidden-fees-or-c/
No credit card, no registration, no promising to pay fees later. Just a system, a game, an existing Wi-Fi connection, and I'm playing online. It's very, very smart for Nintendo to continue this offering with the Wii.]]>Aug 16th 2006 10:24AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/08/16/wii-for-november-under-250-and-it-wont-have-hidden-fees-or-c/http://www.engadget.com/2006/08/16/wii-for-november-under-250-and-it-wont-have-hidden-fees-or-c/
I hear that's in an add-on.
]]>Aug 16th 2006 10:25AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/08/16/wii-for-november-under-250-and-it-wont-have-hidden-fees-or-c/http://www.engadget.com/2006/08/16/wii-for-november-under-250-and-it-wont-have-hidden-fees-or-c/
With that said, let me now welcome Engadget to several months ago, since the rest of us living outside our caves have known this "news" for quite a long time. More recent information from up-to-date sources (like IGN) report a Japanese price of 19,800 yen ($170 in the US), though the US price would likely be $200.]]>Aug 16th 2006 10:45AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/08/16/wii-for-november-under-250-and-it-wont-have-hidden-fees-or-c/http://www.engadget.com/2006/08/16/wii-for-november-under-250-and-it-wont-have-hidden-fees-or-c/Oops, this isn't Sony, we do not have to worry about what sort of things are done to fuck us over with Nintendo, that is only a Sony issue... ]]>Aug 16th 2006 10:56AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/08/16/wii-for-november-under-250-and-it-wont-have-hidden-fees-or-c/http://www.engadget.com/2006/08/16/wii-for-november-under-250-and-it-wont-have-hidden-fees-or-c/
It certainly wasn't intended as a one-for-one comparison. I'm positive that the technology in these will be far superior to the sad-sack power glove.

BUT, Nintendo does have a history of making some pretty outrageous claims WRT product performance. They had always been very shrewd with marketing their gimmicky notions.

This time around, they've built an entire system around a gimmicky idea. Will that stop me from buying it?? No way. I'm really interested in this system and I have a fair amount of faith ($200) that they'll deliver.

While I plan on picking one up, I do have some pretty strong reservations due to their past performance.]]>Aug 16th 2006 10:57AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/08/16/wii-for-november-under-250-and-it-wont-have-hidden-fees-or-c/http://www.engadget.com/2006/08/16/wii-for-november-under-250-and-it-wont-have-hidden-fees-or-c/Aug 16th 2006 11:21AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/08/16/wii-for-november-under-250-and-it-wont-have-hidden-fees-or-c/http://www.engadget.com/2006/08/16/wii-for-november-under-250-and-it-wont-have-hidden-fees-or-c/
794MHZ processor. Yes. But, in a dedicated system. It's most likely equivelent to your home computer in processing power. Which I KNOW you paid more then 250 dollars for. Plus, most of you complain about CPU power. Then you all download emulators of SNES, and NES. and giggle and laugh as you play "Super Mario World". GAMEPLAY people GAMEPLAY. I realize that a lot of you are consumer level. But, please do some reasearch.

THOUGH THOUGH. A little HD love would have been nice. Sigh.]]>Aug 16th 2006 11:40AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/08/16/wii-for-november-under-250-and-it-wont-have-hidden-fees-or-c/http://www.engadget.com/2006/08/16/wii-for-november-under-250-and-it-wont-have-hidden-fees-or-c/Aug 16th 2006 11:47AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/08/16/wii-for-november-under-250-and-it-wont-have-hidden-fees-or-c/http://www.engadget.com/2006/08/16/wii-for-november-under-250-and-it-wont-have-hidden-fees-or-c/
Wii is just a Gamecube with a new controller. How is that next-gen?

Somebody said in a previous post that Wii is definitely next-gen unless you are "shallow" and prefer great graphics over gameplay.

Well, I enjoy both, great graphics AND great gameplay. They are not mutually exclusive. Many people who talk about "innovation" (as an excuse for Wii's relatively weak specs) forget that pure performance is also an enabler for potentially greater games.

There is no way you could've had something like Shadow of the Colossus, Grand Theft Auto 3 or God of War on a PS1. PS2 made it possible even though PS2 really was "just" a PS1 with fancier graphics. Who knows what will come next.]]>Aug 16th 2006 11:58AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/08/16/wii-for-november-under-250-and-it-wont-have-hidden-fees-or-c/http://www.engadget.com/2006/08/16/wii-for-november-under-250-and-it-wont-have-hidden-fees-or-c/

TRANSLATION

the console will cost $249.99

Not that cheap if u ask me.....
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Tense said:

"794MHZ processor. Yes."

No.

"I realize that a lot of you are consumer level. But, please do some reasearch."

Whereas you're cranking out consoles, right? We understand. What the consumer wants isn't important. But people like you don't need to do "reasearch." Just run your trap spouting off incorrect information, like a 794MHz processor.

"THOUGH THOUGH. A little HD love would have been nice."

GAMEPLAY, Tense, GAMEPLAY!]]>Aug 16th 2006 12:35PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/08/16/wii-for-november-under-250-and-it-wont-have-hidden-fees-or-c/http://www.engadget.com/2006/08/16/wii-for-november-under-250-and-it-wont-have-hidden-fees-or-c/Aug 16th 2006 12:39PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/08/16/wii-for-november-under-250-and-it-wont-have-hidden-fees-or-c/http://www.engadget.com/2006/08/16/wii-for-november-under-250-and-it-wont-have-hidden-fees-or-c/
Taken from wii.ign.com:
"Nintendo's new Wii console could be yours later this year for less than expected. Tokyo-based Nikko Citigroup has issued a report on Nintendo's rising stock price, and between all the jargon is the financial institution's forecast that the Wii will carry a Japanese price point of 19,800 yen.

Current exchange rates would put an equivalent US price at $170.00. However, console prices rarely convert according to exchange rates. At most, we can probable take this report to indicate an anticipated US price of under $200."

The whole story can be read here: http://wii.ign.com/articles/725/725645p1.html

$170 sounds all right with me!!! But, I'd buy it for $250 anyway...]]>Aug 16th 2006 1:10PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/08/16/wii-for-november-under-250-and-it-wont-have-hidden-fees-or-c/http://www.engadget.com/2006/08/16/wii-for-november-under-250-and-it-wont-have-hidden-fees-or-c/
Cant wait for a raking game so I can rake all those virtual leaves.]]>Aug 16th 2006 1:58PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/08/16/wii-for-november-under-250-and-it-wont-have-hidden-fees-or-c/http://www.engadget.com/2006/08/16/wii-for-november-under-250-and-it-wont-have-hidden-fees-or-c/
Why would you play (as ouj said) Shadow of the Colossus, Grand Theft Auto 3 or God of War if the graphics suck so much?

The answer is they aren't that bad and the Wii will be better then that so STFU.]]>Aug 16th 2006 2:08PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/08/16/wii-for-november-under-250-and-it-wont-have-hidden-fees-or-c/http://www.engadget.com/2006/08/16/wii-for-november-under-250-and-it-wont-have-hidden-fees-or-c/
Just because the service is free, does not mean that downloadable content in general will be free.

And that downloadable content may be charged for is certainly not a hidden fee, so it most certainly is not going against calling the general service free."

Obviously, game downloads will not be free. I don't know what got people thinking that, even in spite of all the talk CONTRARY to what you just said about it. Online play = free, extra services ~ free/pay. It was assumed from the beginning (and not just for game downloads).]]>Aug 16th 2006 2:48PM