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In any case, despite there being an obvious size differential I don't think it really matters much to most people. It's just going to sit on a shelf in their entertainment center, who cares if it's big or small? Probably the only people that this will affect are the people that want to move their system around to friends houses, etc.

In any case, I thought we had test units out for the PS3. There aren't any news or pictures coming from that?]]>Aug 17th 2006 7:27AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/08/17/ps3-xbox-360-form-truce-for-photo-spread/http://www.engadget.com/2006/08/17/ps3-xbox-360-form-truce-for-photo-spread/heres link http://www.3604free.com/index.php?ref=4101111 when you go to this link u well only have to complete 2 and your done]]>Sep 17th 2007 9:21PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/08/17/ps3-xbox-360-form-truce-for-photo-spread/http://www.engadget.com/2006/08/17/ps3-xbox-360-form-truce-for-photo-spread/Aug 17th 2006 7:30AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/08/17/ps3-xbox-360-form-truce-for-photo-spread/http://www.engadget.com/2006/08/17/ps3-xbox-360-form-truce-for-photo-spread/Aug 17th 2006 7:35AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/08/17/ps3-xbox-360-form-truce-for-photo-spread/http://www.engadget.com/2006/08/17/ps3-xbox-360-form-truce-for-photo-spread/Aug 17th 2006 7:43AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/08/17/ps3-xbox-360-form-truce-for-photo-spread/http://www.engadget.com/2006/08/17/ps3-xbox-360-form-truce-for-photo-spread/
a)I'll bet the folks that had a problem with how big the Xbox was will be curiously silent this time around.
b)If this thing's as expensive as is rumoured, I don't think mom and dad will want it moved around much
c)Sony sure has a bunch of feet to shoot itself in.
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They might as well just release that one, It probably wouldn't matter, cue the fanboys tellin us how wood is next gen, whilst circuit boards and electronic components are so passe.


]]>Aug 17th 2006 8:11AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/08/17/ps3-xbox-360-form-truce-for-photo-spread/http://www.engadget.com/2006/08/17/ps3-xbox-360-form-truce-for-photo-spread/Aug 17th 2006 8:15AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/08/17/ps3-xbox-360-form-truce-for-photo-spread/http://www.engadget.com/2006/08/17/ps3-xbox-360-form-truce-for-photo-spread/Aug 17th 2006 8:16AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/08/17/ps3-xbox-360-form-truce-for-photo-spread/http://www.engadget.com/2006/08/17/ps3-xbox-360-form-truce-for-photo-spread/Aug 17th 2006 8:23AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/08/17/ps3-xbox-360-form-truce-for-photo-spread/http://www.engadget.com/2006/08/17/ps3-xbox-360-form-truce-for-photo-spread/Aug 17th 2006 8:30AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/08/17/ps3-xbox-360-form-truce-for-photo-spread/http://www.engadget.com/2006/08/17/ps3-xbox-360-form-truce-for-photo-spread/is it because you're all a bunch of sony fanboys? I think so.

That out of the way, I'm quite interested to see how the ps3 performs (as a game system, I'll buy a standalone for HD movies). However, right now the Wii higher on my 'to buy' list.]]>Aug 17th 2006 8:35AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/08/17/ps3-xbox-360-form-truce-for-photo-spread/http://www.engadget.com/2006/08/17/ps3-xbox-360-form-truce-for-photo-spread/
Long live the Wiiiii!]]>Aug 17th 2006 8:37AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/08/17/ps3-xbox-360-form-truce-for-photo-spread/http://www.engadget.com/2006/08/17/ps3-xbox-360-form-truce-for-photo-spread/Aug 17th 2006 8:38AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/08/17/ps3-xbox-360-form-truce-for-photo-spread/http://www.engadget.com/2006/08/17/ps3-xbox-360-form-truce-for-photo-spread/
Also the price!?! Sony have definitely shot themselves in the foot this time around.

It's kinda weird how the PS3 has been in development for ages and yet somehow it still seems so rushed?

Anyone else feel that?]]>Aug 17th 2006 8:41AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/08/17/ps3-xbox-360-form-truce-for-photo-spread/http://www.engadget.com/2006/08/17/ps3-xbox-360-form-truce-for-photo-spread/
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Lloyd, I don't know what you're smokin, but even though it is huge, it looks way better than the Bland 360.]]>Aug 17th 2006 9:14AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/08/17/ps3-xbox-360-form-truce-for-photo-spread/http://www.engadget.com/2006/08/17/ps3-xbox-360-form-truce-for-photo-spread/
The form factor that makes me mad is that it has a rounded top so that you can't set anything else on top of it. Since its obviously going to be the widest machine in the deck, I don't want it on top of my receiver looking just like it does on the 360 in that picture. ]]>Aug 17th 2006 9:18AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/08/17/ps3-xbox-360-form-truce-for-photo-spread/http://www.engadget.com/2006/08/17/ps3-xbox-360-form-truce-for-photo-spread/
BTW... I am not a Sony fanboy. However, I believe MS deserves some demerits for their, "oh we'll just create an add-on for it latter." mentality. Props to Sony for trying to get it all in one box.

Should a game system have so many peripherals.

I'm not sure I will be getting a PS3, I think it is marketed to people with HDTV flat panels, not the larger market. That is what the WII is for, they will do well.]]>Aug 17th 2006 9:21AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/08/17/ps3-xbox-360-form-truce-for-photo-spread/http://www.engadget.com/2006/08/17/ps3-xbox-360-form-truce-for-photo-spread/Aug 17th 2006 9:25AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/08/17/ps3-xbox-360-form-truce-for-photo-spread/http://www.engadget.com/2006/08/17/ps3-xbox-360-form-truce-for-photo-spread/
It wouldn't surprise me if the PS3 ends up being the size of a VHS VCR circa 1981.]]>Aug 17th 2006 9:34AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/08/17/ps3-xbox-360-form-truce-for-photo-spread/http://www.engadget.com/2006/08/17/ps3-xbox-360-form-truce-for-photo-spread/if it is,(any links to show dimensions?) then it will fit right at home with the rest of our normal sized a/v equipment and I for one welcome our new sony overlords...

Also, remember a couple of points in size comparrison.
1. power brick (allready noted)
2. BR drive (allready noted)
3. PS2 Remember this guy? they shoved one of these in there as well... I have to wonder how large/smaller the Ps3 would be if it didn't have an entire other console sitting under the hood.]]>Aug 17th 2006 9:34AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/08/17/ps3-xbox-360-form-truce-for-photo-spread/http://www.engadget.com/2006/08/17/ps3-xbox-360-form-truce-for-photo-spread/
If the PS3 hits the streets at this size and becomes successful in Japan it clearly means all that talk about cramped apartments was all bunk.

Even the old talk about the XBOX not selling due to how ugly it was will soon become moot as this PS3 is far from stylish. It may be my American consumer opinion here but that thing is just as ugly.

I can buy the argument about the games. The XBOX didn’t really have a good mix of RPG style games…and the XBOX 360 is in serious need of releasing quality titles overseas. Actually they need to release more titles to all of the market...period!

So I would still love to know just how important form factor is to the Japanese consumer?
]]>Aug 17th 2006 9:35AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/08/17/ps3-xbox-360-form-truce-for-photo-spread/http://www.engadget.com/2006/08/17/ps3-xbox-360-form-truce-for-photo-spread/Aug 17th 2006 9:35AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/08/17/ps3-xbox-360-form-truce-for-photo-spread/http://www.engadget.com/2006/08/17/ps3-xbox-360-form-truce-for-photo-spread/Aug 17th 2006 9:43AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/08/17/ps3-xbox-360-form-truce-for-photo-spread/http://www.engadget.com/2006/08/17/ps3-xbox-360-form-truce-for-photo-spread/Aug 17th 2006 9:46AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/08/17/ps3-xbox-360-form-truce-for-photo-spread/http://www.engadget.com/2006/08/17/ps3-xbox-360-form-truce-for-photo-spread/the performance, and the cost. Which I must say at this point,it looks as the scales are tipped in Microsofts favor. I own a 360 it is large iself, so that means the PS3 is Paul Bunyun sized. Also, it lacks any truely great titles (barring Final Fantasy titles). This system will use expensive media, and will require users to fork out more than 20 % higher prices for the games. I have had both PS,PS2 and the Original X Box and if history is any indication the PS3 will fall short of projections and sucumb to the mighty Bill Gates. XBox (as a brand, platform, and gaming library will prevail)]]>Aug 17th 2006 9:48AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/08/17/ps3-xbox-360-form-truce-for-photo-spread/http://www.engadget.com/2006/08/17/ps3-xbox-360-form-truce-for-photo-spread/Aug 17th 2006 9:50AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/08/17/ps3-xbox-360-form-truce-for-photo-spread/http://www.engadget.com/2006/08/17/ps3-xbox-360-form-truce-for-photo-spread/Aug 17th 2006 10:01AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/08/17/ps3-xbox-360-form-truce-for-photo-spread/http://www.engadget.com/2006/08/17/ps3-xbox-360-form-truce-for-photo-spread/Aug 17th 2006 10:19AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/08/17/ps3-xbox-360-form-truce-for-photo-spread/http://www.engadget.com/2006/08/17/ps3-xbox-360-form-truce-for-photo-spread/Aug 17th 2006 10:28AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/08/17/ps3-xbox-360-form-truce-for-photo-spread/http://www.engadget.com/2006/08/17/ps3-xbox-360-form-truce-for-photo-spread/
1st 360
2nd Wii
3rd PS3 (only losing by a small amount)

Like i said this is just my opinion so dont PMS at me for it.]]>Aug 17th 2006 11:06AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/08/17/ps3-xbox-360-form-truce-for-photo-spread/http://www.engadget.com/2006/08/17/ps3-xbox-360-form-truce-for-photo-spread/
The PS3's design may as well be a top-loader for the roundedness of the top surface. I can't see getting one because I don't know where I would put it. Maybe when the slimline version comes out for $150 less in 2008?]]>Aug 17th 2006 11:12AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/08/17/ps3-xbox-360-form-truce-for-photo-spread/http://www.engadget.com/2006/08/17/ps3-xbox-360-form-truce-for-photo-spread/
To argue the power brick is a weak argument because it is actually a much smarter and economical decision to have it attach externally. Not only does it make the 360 fit easier in any space but if it happens to brake you don't have to send in the entire system for repair. "Well if the 360 had an internal power supply it would be just as big," that's exactly why it is external. MS has allowed its consumers the luxury of space efficiency, low cost, and options. They aren't producing a giant system and then jamming HDDVD down our throats. They shouldn't be condemned for that.

Also, with such a huge size why the domed top? Also, with everything built in (especially the power supply) the system is going to really heat up. Let's face it, most shelves in entertainment centers aren't made for such large devices and made of wood. Which means although the PS3 may fit it won't have much breathing room and air circulation. I'm predicting huge overheating problems and system repairs at launch. ]]>Aug 17th 2006 11:42AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/08/17/ps3-xbox-360-form-truce-for-photo-spread/http://www.engadget.com/2006/08/17/ps3-xbox-360-form-truce-for-photo-spread/looking at that top picture, what would the child of a 360 and a ps3 look like? anyone?]]>Aug 17th 2006 11:47AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/08/17/ps3-xbox-360-form-truce-for-photo-spread/http://www.engadget.com/2006/08/17/ps3-xbox-360-form-truce-for-photo-spread/
in Japan:

1st Wii
2nd PS3
3rd xbox 360

America:
1st Wii
2nd 360
3rd PS3

It's all about the games.
Wii is going to have the same success as the DS in Japan.

Oh and there are too many M$ xbox fanboys in this message board.

Wii and Zelda will sell more than 360 and gears of war, count on it.
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It looks like a Bose DVD player, on steroids.

Lloyd, I don't know what you're smokin, but even though it is huge, it looks way better than the Bland 360.
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Exactly my point! Apparently the 360 has a much "sleeker design?". For any of you that have any so much of an idea as to home decor and ESPECIALLY living room design, the PS3 is freaking nice, especially when joined with a set of black amps/receivers/dvdplayers/tv/speakers? The 360 would honestly look like a baby toy.
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Dav said:

Oh god!!! That thing is huge! I'm terribly disapointed in Sony. To me it looks like an oversized breadbin. 'at least it comes in black?' What?? Oh so your saying Microsoft won't ever release a black Xbox 360? I also feel the 360 looks so much better.

Also the price!?! Sony have definitely shot themselves in the foot this time around.

It's kinda weird how the PS3 has been in development for ages and yet somehow it still seems so rushed?

Anyone else feel that?
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First of all, I don't think I've even seen rumors of a black 360? Someone correct me on that. Next.
I believe the 360 was the RUSHED one. It came in way too early without something for the next gen TV's/console equipment (ie. HDDVD is not even out yet and with the 360, will probably cost much as the ps3).
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Won't being made out of wood just make the PS3 more expensive? Don't get me wrong, I think a wooden video game system would be classy, but I don't understand how it would help gameplay.
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What are you smoking! the REPLICA is made out of wood. Who ever said that the ps3 is going to be made out of wood!

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Though if it WAS made out of wood.... that'd be kinda awesome. Matches my black piano wood finish to the entire home theatre system. And that would explain for quite a bit of the cost =)

See at least then, even the Wii would look nice. But to be honest, the 360 just looks like a toy trying to be 'futuristic' and what not.
Probably owners of the Ps3 don't give a crap about that. They just want something nice with their new HDTVs. They don't care about bringing it to other people's homes. If other people want to play with it. THEY'RE the ones with HDTV. THEY'RE the ones with the PS3.

I don't think any of my arguments here are not legit. So if your arguing, please support.]]>Aug 17th 2006 12:07PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/08/17/ps3-xbox-360-form-truce-for-photo-spread/http://www.engadget.com/2006/08/17/ps3-xbox-360-form-truce-for-photo-spread/Aug 17th 2006 12:26PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/08/17/ps3-xbox-360-form-truce-for-photo-spread/http://www.engadget.com/2006/08/17/ps3-xbox-360-form-truce-for-photo-spread/Looks sleek...

I like the idea of the slot loading mechanism over that flimsy tray of the 360.

I was hoping that they would bring out a white one though to the states]]>Aug 17th 2006 12:26PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/08/17/ps3-xbox-360-form-truce-for-photo-spread/http://www.engadget.com/2006/08/17/ps3-xbox-360-form-truce-for-photo-spread/
"it looks way better than the Bland 360."

That's not a legit arguement, that's an opinion. So anyone who's opinion that that the 360 looks good is just as valid as your arguement that the PS3 looks good. Also, I have silver AV components, how does the PS3 black case help me out?

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"it's kinda weird how the PS3 has been in development for ages and yet somehow it still seems so rushed?"


Rushed because they're well behind their original deadlines but can't seem delay it all the time to throw in one more useless thing. The PS3 will soon come with its own kitchen sink.

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"First of all, I don't think I've even seen rumors of a black 360? Someone correct me on that."

They're called faceplates. Black faceplates, wood faceplated, etc. If you're putting the 360 in an AV rack, all you'll be seeing is the faceplate.

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"What are you smoking! the REPLICA is made out of wood."

Google the word "sarcasm" and you may understand what the original poster meant.

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"Probably owners of the Ps3 don't give a crap about that. They just want something nice with their new HDTVs. They don't care about bringing it to other people's house"

D@mn right at $300-$600 (price range of 360/PS3) I won't be bringing it to anyone else's house. They can get their own or come to me. That's an arguement for any system.]]>Aug 17th 2006 12:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/08/17/ps3-xbox-360-form-truce-for-photo-spread/http://www.engadget.com/2006/08/17/ps3-xbox-360-form-truce-for-photo-spread/"Size, Appearance, none of this matters. What matters is
the performance, and the cost. Which I must say at this point,it looks as the scales are tipped in Microsofts favor. I own a 360 it is large iself, so that means the PS3 is Paul Bunyun sized. Also, it lacks any truely great titles (barring Final Fantasy titles). This system will use expensive media, and will require users to fork out more than 20 % higher prices for the games. I have had both PS,PS2 and the Original X Box and if history is any indication the PS3 will fall short of projections and sucumb to the mighty Bill Gates. XBox (as a brand, platform, and gaming library will prevail)"

*double take* urm, I'm sorry, what? the Gran Turismo series? Tekken series? MGS series? All PS-exclusive. what in the world are you talking about, no great titles?

but I guess that's my opinion and you have your opinion. Sadly, like most of the fanboys on this thread, you seem to think that your opinion = everyone's opinion.

Oh, and what history are you referring to? The one where the PS launched about 6 mos after the Saturn and demolished it in 3 days? Oh, or are you referring to the part where Sony dominated this current generation of consoles (PS2) worldwide from beginning to end? Seriously, what rock have you been living under? If "history" is an indication of anything, it indicates that the PS3 is going to smash the Xbox360 and Wii in any metric you can think of. I don't think that's the case for the next gen stuff for a variety of reasons (it's going to be a lot closer and competitive this time around, I think, but I still predict PS3 ahead of the other two systems), but you really need to get your facts straight, dude.]]>Aug 17th 2006 12:51PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/08/17/ps3-xbox-360-form-truce-for-photo-spread/http://www.engadget.com/2006/08/17/ps3-xbox-360-form-truce-for-photo-spread/
"Out of sight out of mind"
I keep the "brick" behind the shelf, leaving only a slim cord trail from the 360.
If I had the PS3, you can't hide that mammoth behind the shelf.
I could care less about the color, most of my stuff is silver/gray anyway. If color is that big to you, buy some glossy spray paint, and do away with the white, plus you can just buy a faceplate, if it's just the front you see.

Only thing I worry about is the adapter catching fire, but I got it replaced a while back at Walmart. As for the PS3, i'd be afraid that it would eat my house.
The Wii is next on the list, bring em out!
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Here is a spin on you history arguement. Let's see what else history has taught us.

- An inexperienced yet powerful electronics company can come out of nowhere to become the market leader. I am of course talking about Sony over Nintendo.

- After 2 great systems (NES and Super Nintendo) Nintendo lost it's lead to Sony

- After 2 great systems, PS and PS2, will Sony lose it's lead?

There's some historical trends for ya.

** Disclaimer, I don't own a 360. I do own an xbox, ps2, and GC, but have touched none of them in the last year. So I don't think I'm much of a fanboy, just an equal opportunity critic of all you fanboys.]]>Aug 17th 2006 1:06PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/08/17/ps3-xbox-360-form-truce-for-photo-spread/http://www.engadget.com/2006/08/17/ps3-xbox-360-form-truce-for-photo-spread/Aug 17th 2006 1:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/08/17/ps3-xbox-360-form-truce-for-photo-spread/http://www.engadget.com/2006/08/17/ps3-xbox-360-form-truce-for-photo-spread/
- An inexperienced yet powerful electronics company can come out of nowhere to become the market leader. I am of course talking about Sony over Nintendo.

- And possibly, Microsoft over Sony.]]>Aug 17th 2006 1:12PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/08/17/ps3-xbox-360-form-truce-for-photo-spread/http://www.engadget.com/2006/08/17/ps3-xbox-360-form-truce-for-photo-spread/
Who cares what the hell it looks like? My PS2 sits behind a closed cabinet door when I'm not playing it. And when I am playing it, I'm looking at my 40 inch LCD HDTV, not the console. Have you seen the screenshots for the PS3? No comparison to anything else! And what about the price? People will dish out $400 for a stupid iPod like they're going out of style, so what's a couple hundred more for something that does 10 times as much?

And I'm not bashing other consoles, they're a fine and good, I'll probably get a Wii also, but there simply is no comparison to the PS3, it's well worth the money. Try playing games that look like that on a $600 computer.]]>Aug 17th 2006 1:13PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/08/17/ps3-xbox-360-form-truce-for-photo-spread/http://www.engadget.com/2006/08/17/ps3-xbox-360-form-truce-for-photo-spread/
For all I know there may be laserdisc size bluray discs though.]]>Aug 17th 2006 1:23PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/08/17/ps3-xbox-360-form-truce-for-photo-spread/http://www.engadget.com/2006/08/17/ps3-xbox-360-form-truce-for-photo-spread/Aug 17th 2006 1:36PM