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Anyone know what any iPod costs to make?

Nike has this same problem. They claim it's to keep the shoes cost down, but they're still $80 to $120 for a pair. I've read that these big corporations go over seas not only for cheap labor, but to skirt paying U.S. taxes.]]>Aug 18th 2006 9:37AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/08/18/apple-completes-ipod-city-investigation-into-foxconn/http://www.engadget.com/2006/08/18/apple-completes-ipod-city-investigation-into-foxconn/
See: American cars.]]>Aug 18th 2006 10:18AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/08/18/apple-completes-ipod-city-investigation-into-foxconn/http://www.engadget.com/2006/08/18/apple-completes-ipod-city-investigation-into-foxconn/
American-built cars are some of the finest cars you can own, right up there with Japanese manufactured cars. The problem is American design, and the fact that "American cars" aren't even manufactured in America anymore (Ford, Chevy, Dodge). It's a real shame when most cars manufactured in America are from foreign car companies when America used to be the great automobile giant.

As far as iPods go, you hit the nail on the head when you said "if they could manufacture it for the same cost in America." They can't. Our capitalism is modeled such that companies are always looking for ways to cut costs and meet consumer demand. In a sense, we are our own worst economic enemy. We want the latest gadgets at an incredibly low price, and that is what drives companies like Apple to outsource out of the country.

And Smoke_Dawg_187, if you think iPods are expensive now, I shudder to think of what they would cost if they were manufactured in America. Capitalism is profit-driven, and to move manufacturing to America while keeping the retail price the same would be ludicrous in Apple's eyes.]]>Aug 18th 2006 10:27AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/08/18/apple-completes-ipod-city-investigation-into-foxconn/http://www.engadget.com/2006/08/18/apple-completes-ipod-city-investigation-into-foxconn/
Overseas manufacturing *does* keep the shoe cost down, the iPod cost down. But the market will only bear so much. Nike, Apple, they charge what the market will bear, not a penny less. Then they manufacture the product, usually overseas, for as little cost as possible. Then they take the difference. Individual unit costs from stateside manufacturing, you wouldn't notice so much -- products would cost more but not insurmountably more. But across millions of units, it's a lot of money, a lot savings that you will never see but they corporation will take away in profit.]]>Aug 18th 2006 10:35AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/08/18/apple-completes-ipod-city-investigation-into-foxconn/http://www.engadget.com/2006/08/18/apple-completes-ipod-city-investigation-into-foxconn/Aug 18th 2006 10:38AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/08/18/apple-completes-ipod-city-investigation-into-foxconn/http://www.engadget.com/2006/08/18/apple-completes-ipod-city-investigation-into-foxconn/Aug 18th 2006 10:43AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/08/18/apple-completes-ipod-city-investigation-into-foxconn/http://www.engadget.com/2006/08/18/apple-completes-ipod-city-investigation-into-foxconn/
That's a load of crap, they should do an internal investigation on their own Fifth Avenue store.]]>Aug 18th 2006 10:50AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/08/18/apple-completes-ipod-city-investigation-into-foxconn/http://www.engadget.com/2006/08/18/apple-completes-ipod-city-investigation-into-foxconn/
The last line of your writeup is pretty damned insensitive, considering the working and living conditions of many of the people who assemble much of the crap you use on a day to day basis. May they have mercy on your grandchildren, who will likely be serving fries to theirs at the rate we're going.]]>Aug 18th 2006 10:57AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/08/18/apple-completes-ipod-city-investigation-into-foxconn/http://www.engadget.com/2006/08/18/apple-completes-ipod-city-investigation-into-foxconn/
Wouldn't that be 6,000 "person-hours"? 5*(40*30)]]>Aug 18th 2006 11:03AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/08/18/apple-completes-ipod-city-investigation-into-foxconn/http://www.engadget.com/2006/08/18/apple-completes-ipod-city-investigation-into-foxconn/Aug 18th 2006 11:26AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/08/18/apple-completes-ipod-city-investigation-into-foxconn/http://www.engadget.com/2006/08/18/apple-completes-ipod-city-investigation-into-foxconn/Divide by 5 after all that!]]>Aug 18th 2006 12:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/08/18/apple-completes-ipod-city-investigation-into-foxconn/http://www.engadget.com/2006/08/18/apple-completes-ipod-city-investigation-into-foxconn/Aug 18th 2006 12:20PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/08/18/apple-completes-ipod-city-investigation-into-foxconn/http://www.engadget.com/2006/08/18/apple-completes-ipod-city-investigation-into-foxconn/Aug 18th 2006 12:58PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/08/18/apple-completes-ipod-city-investigation-into-foxconn/http://www.engadget.com/2006/08/18/apple-completes-ipod-city-investigation-into-foxconn/
Chinese slave labor is how you get your cheap clothes at Mervyns and Walmart. Plus, those Chinese workers probably live like kings on their $1/month salary.

This is one of the advantages of doing business in a place with little to no regulations, and where the value of human life is low.]]>Aug 18th 2006 2:36PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/08/18/apple-completes-ipod-city-investigation-into-foxconn/http://www.engadget.com/2006/08/18/apple-completes-ipod-city-investigation-into-foxconn/
...that's just utterly false. The tolerances that Japanese and German manufacturers build to are 100s of times more accurate and specific than american engineered vehicles. It has little-to-nothing to do with WHERE the car is manufactured, domestic cars are ENGINEERED with higher tolerances so that manufacturing (and even repair) can be done with much less accuracy, leading to a serious decline in longevity and efficiency.

saying that they are "the finest" from an engineering standpoint is just false. They may be great, and you may love them, and they might be very expensive and reliable, but when speaking of engineering and manufacturing, they are not by any stretch of the imagination "the Finest" (though they may not be the worst either: Korean and even British are known for poor engineering and build quality.)

Let's just reduce your comment to personal experience: Show me a Domestic engine that can, properly maintained, reliably perform at over 400 thousand miles. i challenge you to do so. :P (...and not just a single example, but an engine design that can repeatably do so.)
Even just anecdotal evidence. For every american engine you can show me that's still alive after even just 300K miles, i'll show you 10 japanese or german engines.
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Heh, give me some of what you're smoking please because it MUST be daaaamn gooood.

Even Nissans and Hondas are not really manufactured in the US rather than assembled.

So if I assemple a PC made of quality goods I can then claim all the glory?

In any case its not even an opinion, rather a fact that cards in oder of quality are made in:

1) Europe
2) Japan
3) Rest of the world.

For a long time, european car manufacturers had agreed not to even put disc-brakes on cars exported to the US for fear of having their technology imitated [read:stolen].

Every country has its areas of expertise and as much as you may wish it were true, cars just isn't one of them.

Computer components however, especially CPUs are something that I would take US/Japanese made over any other pretty much every time.]]>Aug 19th 2006 1:44AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/08/18/apple-completes-ipod-city-investigation-into-foxconn/http://www.engadget.com/2006/08/18/apple-completes-ipod-city-investigation-into-foxconn/Sep 9th 2006 8:32AM