http://www.engadget.com/2006/09/11/toshibas-triple-layer-hd-dvd-dvd-discs/ Engadget Comments for http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2008 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2006/09/11/toshibas-triple-layer-hd-dvd-dvd-discs/http://www.engadget.com/2006/09/11/toshibas-triple-layer-hd-dvd-dvd-discs/Its usually a years wait before average consumers can afford stuff like this.]]>Sep 11th 2006 9:38AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/09/11/toshibas-triple-layer-hd-dvd-dvd-discs/http://www.engadget.com/2006/09/11/toshibas-triple-layer-hd-dvd-dvd-discs/
But like I said, I'm still rooting for the superior tech/capacity of Blu-Ray.]]>Sep 11th 2006 9:38AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/09/11/toshibas-triple-layer-hd-dvd-dvd-discs/http://www.engadget.com/2006/09/11/toshibas-triple-layer-hd-dvd-dvd-discs/Sep 11th 2006 9:41AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/09/11/toshibas-triple-layer-hd-dvd-dvd-discs/http://www.engadget.com/2006/09/11/toshibas-triple-layer-hd-dvd-dvd-discs/Sep 11th 2006 10:00AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/09/11/toshibas-triple-layer-hd-dvd-dvd-discs/http://www.engadget.com/2006/09/11/toshibas-triple-layer-hd-dvd-dvd-discs/
http://www.jvc-victor.co.jp/english/press/2004/bd-dvd.html

HD-DVD will have no advantages over Blu-ray in the end, not even price.]]>Sep 11th 2006 10:22AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/09/11/toshibas-triple-layer-hd-dvd-dvd-discs/http://www.engadget.com/2006/09/11/toshibas-triple-layer-hd-dvd-dvd-discs/Sep 11th 2006 10:42AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/09/11/toshibas-triple-layer-hd-dvd-dvd-discs/http://www.engadget.com/2006/09/11/toshibas-triple-layer-hd-dvd-dvd-discs/Sep 11th 2006 10:49AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/09/11/toshibas-triple-layer-hd-dvd-dvd-discs/http://www.engadget.com/2006/09/11/toshibas-triple-layer-hd-dvd-dvd-discs/Sep 11th 2006 11:39AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/09/11/toshibas-triple-layer-hd-dvd-dvd-discs/http://www.engadget.com/2006/09/11/toshibas-triple-layer-hd-dvd-dvd-discs/
Blu-ray was the first to demonstrate the Blu-laser/DVD Hybrid in test, in fact, they can do a full 8.5GB DVD plus a full 50GB BD on ONE disc, unlike the limited either-or situation of HD-DVD.

HD-DVD shares at least one layer with DVD. Its dead center, and that is why it can't have both HD DVD and DVD double layer. Meaning if you're into quality (seeing as you have high def setup) then you'd want a superbit DVD plus high def disc hybrid. You can't do that with HD-DVD, because you'll either have a low quality DVD version(4.7GB for DVD, leaving 30GB for HD movie), or a low quality HD version (only allowing 15GB for a movie is NOT enough for any kind of quality video, but you get the full 8.5GB DVD movie).

So sad to see them try this when it just doesn't have the room to have the best of both worlds.]]>Sep 11th 2006 1:29PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/09/11/toshibas-triple-layer-hd-dvd-dvd-discs/http://www.engadget.com/2006/09/11/toshibas-triple-layer-hd-dvd-dvd-discs/
This just gives the ability to market one disc to both HD-DVD and DVD adopters. But even that's problematic, since you sacrifice cpacity at one end or the other: either 8GB DVD / 15GB HD-DVD or 4GB DVD / 30GB HD-DVD. Someone gets short-changed with these. Either the guy who wants it for DVD (4GB is tight) or the guy who wants it for HD (15GB is VERY tight).

Given that issue, I'm not sure there's a market for these -- until they allow 8GB/30GB anyway.

-Pie]]>Sep 11th 2006 2:36PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/09/11/toshibas-triple-layer-hd-dvd-dvd-discs/http://www.engadget.com/2006/09/11/toshibas-triple-layer-hd-dvd-dvd-discs/
"And just how much more vulnerable to scratches will this be? It's already a *big* problem with normal DVD's..."

I guess when you toss your movies around like frizbees, you'll have big problems. DVD/HD-DVD spec puts the data layer much deeper than BD thus not requiring a hard coating to prevent scratches. Personally, I would still prefer a scratch resistant coating on DVD/HD-DVD like the Verbatim Videoguard line of DVD+-R blanks. But I also don't handle the discs by holding on the flat surfaces. Edge/center only for me.]]>Sep 11th 2006 2:41PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/09/11/toshibas-triple-layer-hd-dvd-dvd-discs/http://www.engadget.com/2006/09/11/toshibas-triple-layer-hd-dvd-dvd-discs/Single layer Blu-Ray = 25 GB

The fight is over, may HD DVD rest in peace. HD DVD was doomed from the begining. Without Microsoft support HD DVD would be even less the nothing.]]>Sep 11th 2006 3:06PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/09/11/toshibas-triple-layer-hd-dvd-dvd-discs/http://www.engadget.com/2006/09/11/toshibas-triple-layer-hd-dvd-dvd-discs/Sep 11th 2006 6:46PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/09/11/toshibas-triple-layer-hd-dvd-dvd-discs/http://www.engadget.com/2006/09/11/toshibas-triple-layer-hd-dvd-dvd-discs/Sep 11th 2006 6:58PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/09/11/toshibas-triple-layer-hd-dvd-dvd-discs/http://www.engadget.com/2006/09/11/toshibas-triple-layer-hd-dvd-dvd-discs/
After realising the limitation of

4.7/30 or 8.5/15 GB, I think HD-DVD has sealed its fate.

All hail the new king of HD video, blah, blah, blah, his royal heineyness Blue-Ray HD. [sigh] Yea.

Guess I gotta go spec out a Blue Ray ROM for my HTPC now.

:-(]]>Sep 11th 2006 11:39PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/09/11/toshibas-triple-layer-hd-dvd-dvd-discs/http://www.engadget.com/2006/09/11/toshibas-triple-layer-hd-dvd-dvd-discs/ Interesting. I know MS has stated that the HD-DVD sttachment for the 360 is not intended for gaming, but down the road a ways, this might change things. I mean it's not like MS has never broken their word...it probably wouldn't even be the first time they did so concerning the 360, but this way, if they do no one should have any reason to complain.

With discs like these MS could create standard and high def versions of games and sell them as ONE sku# for one price. People could play the game whether or not they have the HD-DVD attachment (albeit at lower res and probably with less features). And if they ever pick up the HD-DVD add on, they don't have to re-buy any software to start reaping the benefits.

Again, no specific reason to think MS will do this, but it's an interesting possibility...]]>Sep 12th 2006 1:44AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/09/11/toshibas-triple-layer-hd-dvd-dvd-discs/http://www.engadget.com/2006/09/11/toshibas-triple-layer-hd-dvd-dvd-discs/Single layer Blu-Ray = 25 GB

The fight is over, may HD DVD rest in peace. HD DVD was doomed from the begining. Without Microsoft support HD DVD would be even less the nothing."

This has nothing to do with the article. Stop trolling please.]]>Sep 13th 2006 6:38AM