http://www.engadget.com/2006/09/19/sonys-new-hvr-v1u-hdv-cam-does-24p/ Engadget Comments for Sony's new HVR-V1U HDV cam does 24p http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2006/09/19/sonys-new-hvr-v1u-hdv-cam-does-24p/http://www.engadget.com/2006/09/19/sonys-new-hvr-v1u-hdv-cam-does-24p/May 13th 2008 3:16AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/09/19/sonys-new-hvr-v1u-hdv-cam-does-24p/http://www.engadget.com/2006/09/19/sonys-new-hvr-v1u-hdv-cam-does-24p/
I just moved into a new job as a documentary producer/camera operator. We are using 2 HVR-V1U's. I have never used this camera before but am interested in the 24P mode and am wondering if anyone else has shot in 24P in a documentary setting?

Kind of a stupid question, but I'm just trying to get some info from experienced users.

Thanks in advance
Chinch]]>Aug 4th 2008 11:52AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/09/19/sonys-new-hvr-v1u-hdv-cam-does-24p/http://www.engadget.com/2006/09/19/sonys-new-hvr-v1u-hdv-cam-does-24p/
I have also looked at Canon XH A1 and Sony HVR-A1U HDV Camcorder.

I have to stay at this price range.

I welcome all the suggestions.

THanks]]>Sep 30th 2008 12:09PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/09/19/sonys-new-hvr-v1u-hdv-cam-does-24p/http://www.engadget.com/2006/09/19/sonys-new-hvr-v1u-hdv-cam-does-24p/the processing ----------- 1920 x 1080 60p - this is cmos progressive sensor
output-------------------------HDV tape-FireWire(laptop or compact flash drive)-HDMI

For what you are doing, this camera is so wicked,
more than that, it's actually fun to use
it's got more than you'll need,
unless you get into editing and start
doing commercials, documentaries, etc
Then you find out about HDMI capture
and with this camera - your ready! Kinda future-proof if-you-will.
I'm thinking about getting another HVR-V1u for a 2 camera set-up!

Break a leg - sorry hospital humor!

]]>Oct 10th 2008 7:42PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/09/19/sonys-new-hvr-v1u-hdv-cam-does-24p/http://www.engadget.com/2006/09/19/sonys-new-hvr-v1u-hdv-cam-does-24p/
i'm sure there are better cams out there but if i ever get into shooting videos, one of these won't blow my pocket...]]>Sep 19th 2006 3:41PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/09/19/sonys-new-hvr-v1u-hdv-cam-does-24p/http://www.engadget.com/2006/09/19/sonys-new-hvr-v1u-hdv-cam-does-24p/Sep 19th 2006 3:48PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/09/19/sonys-new-hvr-v1u-hdv-cam-does-24p/http://www.engadget.com/2006/09/19/sonys-new-hvr-v1u-hdv-cam-does-24p/
1080p/60 is absolutely NOT an ATSC standard. 720p/60 is. The 1080/60p transmission of 1080/24p material between players and displays is a total waste of bandwidth for pure marketing reasons (oh, cool, each pixel is transmitted 2.5 times, I guess now I can see them better).

Sure being able to shoot my holidays or my shorts in 1080p showscan would be nice... Hell why bother with HD, I'd better shoot it in IMAX, this should appear in home theaters in two years time :D

The only interest of 1080p/60 would be for FPS games. 1080p/24 or 30 is quite enough for movies, thank you very much.]]>Sep 19th 2006 4:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/09/19/sonys-new-hvr-v1u-hdv-cam-does-24p/http://www.engadget.com/2006/09/19/sonys-new-hvr-v1u-hdv-cam-does-24p/There isn't an HD workflow currently in existence that needs 1080p at 60fps. HOWEVER, if you need the extra frames for slow-mo effects at a (kinda) budget price, the Panasonic HVX with P2 recording has been out for a while.]]>Sep 19th 2006 3:57PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/09/19/sonys-new-hvr-v1u-hdv-cam-does-24p/http://www.engadget.com/2006/09/19/sonys-new-hvr-v1u-hdv-cam-does-24p/Sep 19th 2006 3:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/09/19/sonys-new-hvr-v1u-hdv-cam-does-24p/http://www.engadget.com/2006/09/19/sonys-new-hvr-v1u-hdv-cam-does-24p/Sep 19th 2006 4:09PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/09/19/sonys-new-hvr-v1u-hdv-cam-does-24p/http://www.engadget.com/2006/09/19/sonys-new-hvr-v1u-hdv-cam-does-24p/Sep 19th 2006 4:05PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/09/19/sonys-new-hvr-v1u-hdv-cam-does-24p/http://www.engadget.com/2006/09/19/sonys-new-hvr-v1u-hdv-cam-does-24p/Sep 19th 2006 5:20PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/09/19/sonys-new-hvr-v1u-hdv-cam-does-24p/http://www.engadget.com/2006/09/19/sonys-new-hvr-v1u-hdv-cam-does-24p/
If it does do 60p, doesn't that mean that every single frame should make a crystal clear still "photo" if used as a frame grab?]]>Sep 19th 2006 4:12PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/09/19/sonys-new-hvr-v1u-hdv-cam-does-24p/http://www.engadget.com/2006/09/19/sonys-new-hvr-v1u-hdv-cam-does-24p/Sep 19th 2006 4:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/09/19/sonys-new-hvr-v1u-hdv-cam-does-24p/http://www.engadget.com/2006/09/19/sonys-new-hvr-v1u-hdv-cam-does-24p/
This is the perfect match for Sony's 70 inch 1920x1080 3 Chip SXRD TV (fall 2006) or their just released 50 inch SXRD TV which comes with a Display Response Time of 2.5 ms. True, the current TV shows are not being broadcast at 60p; but this unit should perform fully on current 1080p TVs now hitting stores, like the two discribed above!

See details: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1080p]]>Sep 19th 2006 5:16PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/09/19/sonys-new-hvr-v1u-hdv-cam-does-24p/http://www.engadget.com/2006/09/19/sonys-new-hvr-v1u-hdv-cam-does-24p/Sep 19th 2006 5:29PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/09/19/sonys-new-hvr-v1u-hdv-cam-does-24p/http://www.engadget.com/2006/09/19/sonys-new-hvr-v1u-hdv-cam-does-24p/Sep 19th 2006 5:32PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/09/19/sonys-new-hvr-v1u-hdv-cam-does-24p/http://www.engadget.com/2006/09/19/sonys-new-hvr-v1u-hdv-cam-does-24p/Sep 19th 2006 5:32PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/09/19/sonys-new-hvr-v1u-hdv-cam-does-24p/http://www.engadget.com/2006/09/19/sonys-new-hvr-v1u-hdv-cam-does-24p/Sep 19th 2006 5:50PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/09/19/sonys-new-hvr-v1u-hdv-cam-does-24p/http://www.engadget.com/2006/09/19/sonys-new-hvr-v1u-hdv-cam-does-24p/But I have to admit Sony they did good with this one, at least from the way it looks afar.
]]>Sep 19th 2006 5:38PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/09/19/sonys-new-hvr-v1u-hdv-cam-does-24p/http://www.engadget.com/2006/09/19/sonys-new-hvr-v1u-hdv-cam-does-24p/Jun 19th 2007 6:58PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/09/19/sonys-new-hvr-v1u-hdv-cam-does-24p/http://www.engadget.com/2006/09/19/sonys-new-hvr-v1u-hdv-cam-does-24p/
But for your information
24f is virtually indistinguishable from 24p. And several editing suites will work with it. And yes the purpose is to make it move like film.
There are several methods for getting that footage out and onto any TV. Just like stuff shot on celluloid at 24fps can appear on your TV with the magic of conversion.

Canons HDV implementation is considered the best on the market at the moment.]]>Jun 19th 2007 7:21PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/09/19/sonys-new-hvr-v1u-hdv-cam-does-24p/http://www.engadget.com/2006/09/19/sonys-new-hvr-v1u-hdv-cam-does-24p/Sep 19th 2006 6:27PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/09/19/sonys-new-hvr-v1u-hdv-cam-does-24p/http://www.engadget.com/2006/09/19/sonys-new-hvr-v1u-hdv-cam-does-24p/Sep 19th 2006 6:46PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/09/19/sonys-new-hvr-v1u-hdv-cam-does-24p/http://www.engadget.com/2006/09/19/sonys-new-hvr-v1u-hdv-cam-does-24p/
HDMI is capable of 1080/60p.
The benefit of 24p, is it is the standard by which major motion pictures are shot. It gives you the "film-look", that digital filmmakers are looking for.
The benefit of 60p is that it is the best format for high-speed sports (note: ESPN is broadcasted in 720/60p).
If motion of the video is really fast, you need a faster framerate to show the video smoothly, otherwise it will look stuttery.]]>Sep 19th 2006 7:22PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/09/19/sonys-new-hvr-v1u-hdv-cam-does-24p/http://www.engadget.com/2006/09/19/sonys-new-hvr-v1u-hdv-cam-does-24p/Oct 16th 2006 2:46AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/09/19/sonys-new-hvr-v1u-hdv-cam-does-24p/http://www.engadget.com/2006/09/19/sonys-new-hvr-v1u-hdv-cam-does-24p/Sep 19th 2006 7:53PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/09/19/sonys-new-hvr-v1u-hdv-cam-does-24p/http://www.engadget.com/2006/09/19/sonys-new-hvr-v1u-hdv-cam-does-24p/Sep 19th 2006 7:57PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/09/19/sonys-new-hvr-v1u-hdv-cam-does-24p/http://www.engadget.com/2006/09/19/sonys-new-hvr-v1u-hdv-cam-does-24p/Sep 19th 2006 8:27PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/09/19/sonys-new-hvr-v1u-hdv-cam-does-24p/http://www.engadget.com/2006/09/19/sonys-new-hvr-v1u-hdv-cam-does-24p/Sep 19th 2006 8:34PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/09/19/sonys-new-hvr-v1u-hdv-cam-does-24p/http://www.engadget.com/2006/09/19/sonys-new-hvr-v1u-hdv-cam-does-24p/
Cinema quality has little to do w/ the camera. This camera will provide the kinetic feel of a film camera. But that's where the similarities end... If you want a real 'film look', focus on your choice of lens selection and lighting, to start. Since this camera has a zoom lens, you've got the entire lens selection gamut covered. You can go wide to cover the entire action. Then you can go long, to get the closeups/reactions and emotions on the kids faces. If you had two of these cameras, you'd be in hog's heaven. You could cover both the wide shots and long shots, in one pass. Then you could cut them together seamlessly. THAT would be quite impactful. For the lighting, it's strange. When we light a movie set -I work as an assistant cameraman-, we light the scene in a way that appears unnatural to the eye. However, when it's capture on film or digital, it appears life-like and almost 3D. We try to avoid flat lighting and instead backlight our subjects, to make them stand out from the background. Typical home movies aren't shot like this. They're shot in available light only -light from the ceiling fan, etc. So they lack that 'cimena quality' that you were talking about. There are some great books out there that cover 3 point lighting techniques. It's a great place to get started.

Hope this helps...

-M

PS. One way to make your videos not look so 'video' is to try to shoot on a long lens w/ the iris wide open. The Sony has 2 neutral density filters built-in, to compensate for the increased light. Shooting like this will allow the camera, or you, to focus the lens only on your subject, while the rest of the image goes into soft focus. This directs your audiences attention to what you want. The soft background will make your subject stand out and help to achieve that 3D look that I was talking about.]]>Oct 16th 2006 3:39AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/09/19/sonys-new-hvr-v1u-hdv-cam-does-24p/http://www.engadget.com/2006/09/19/sonys-new-hvr-v1u-hdv-cam-does-24p/Sep 20th 2006 1:38AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/09/19/sonys-new-hvr-v1u-hdv-cam-does-24p/http://www.engadget.com/2006/09/19/sonys-new-hvr-v1u-hdv-cam-does-24p/Oct 30th 2006 5:43PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/09/19/sonys-new-hvr-v1u-hdv-cam-does-24p/http://www.engadget.com/2006/09/19/sonys-new-hvr-v1u-hdv-cam-does-24p/
It depends on the looks that you're going for. To be able to shoot at true 24fps -the Z model does a gimmicky version that is not true- gives you the kinetic look of a film camera. But your results will depend on a variety of conditions. For the wedding videos, you'll most likely be shooting in available light only. This means that you won't be able to purposefully light the alter, bride and groom, and etc. Most churches do provide for very flat light though. And depending on the deal that you strike up, you may be able to work a couple of 650 watt lights that are placed behind and to the sides of the couple. Mind you that they should be far out of the way, so as not to distract anyone. With nice, flat lighting and a decent backlight, your clients should be very happy w/ the look you've achieved. However, it should be stressed that 24fps will not make your project look like it was shot cinematically. Case in point, take an 35mm movie camera and stick it in your living room on Christmas day to shoot the kids and it won't look much better than Hi8. It'll have 4000 lines of resolution. And it will have all of the abilities and characteristics of film. But the picture won't jump. And in the end, you'll be scratching your head and wondering why you spent $2000 to rent the body, lenses, etc for one day, $1000 per 11 minutes of footage, and all the costs associated w/ processing, transfer, DI, and a laser print out:) So lighting, not the camera, is what should be stressed.

Either camera would probably do fine. I would go w/ this model, over the Z. Low light situations will be a factor for you. So take that into consideration. But video tends to do pretty well in low light. So I wouldn't fret too much over it. If you plan on shooting some shorts or commercials, later on, I would highly recommend this one.

Cheers!]]>Nov 2nd 2006 11:32PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/09/19/sonys-new-hvr-v1u-hdv-cam-does-24p/http://www.engadget.com/2006/09/19/sonys-new-hvr-v1u-hdv-cam-does-24p/Jun 19th 2007 6:58PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/09/19/sonys-new-hvr-v1u-hdv-cam-does-24p/http://www.engadget.com/2006/09/19/sonys-new-hvr-v1u-hdv-cam-does-24p/
To my knowledge, there is no format that PLAYS BACK at 60 frames per second...

I think that, unfortunately, a lot of companies are twisting the 'fps' acronym in the consumer and even prosumer market. I've seen some marketing that is very misleading, in this regard. Clearly, they want you to believe that you're getting 'frames per second', while the hardware is only capable of providing 60 fields per second. The HVX, Varicam, D20, etc. are the exceptions -w/ the first one only really affordable for most of us. They will record a true 60, progressive frames every second. Sony's lit states that this model shoots at 60i, not progressive. And to those who not in the know, there is a difference.

Anyway, all of this is tech garble. And are we doomed to become 'pixel fairies'? Getting over the hurdles, one can know that this model will shoot at 24 and 30 progressive frames per second at 1920x1080 resolution. It will shoot 60 1920x540 resolution interlaced fields per second. It's got a terrific lens. If it has the same build quality as my old PD-150, you can bounce it off a wall. And IT'S A SONY. I wonder if they still put those stickers on their products! December may be time for a nice, new tax write off:)

Cheers...]]>Oct 16th 2006 3:15AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/09/19/sonys-new-hvr-v1u-hdv-cam-does-24p/http://www.engadget.com/2006/09/19/sonys-new-hvr-v1u-hdv-cam-does-24p/My sister (a professional surfer)and I are off on a world wide shoot (www.karinapetroni.com) and we are going to buy two of the Sony V1U's.
I would love to take some classes on shooting HD Video. I am a still photographer and shot the majority of what you will find on her web site but when i read your letters, i feel like such a novice in how to pull off the HD side of things.

I would love to capture that film like feel, and you really focus on lighting.

Are you a 2nd A.D. in Calif by chance? I live in Florida but am in Calif (Santa Monica) every month to see my girlfriend.

Any advice on HD Video and HD Video lighting classes would be great. Or perhaps you could be hired for some.

Thank you.
Erik Petroni. erikpetroni@hotmail.com
]]>Dec 19th 2006 1:29AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/09/19/sonys-new-hvr-v1u-hdv-cam-does-24p/http://www.engadget.com/2006/09/19/sonys-new-hvr-v1u-hdv-cam-does-24p/Oct 20th 2006 12:29AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/09/19/sonys-new-hvr-v1u-hdv-cam-does-24p/http://www.engadget.com/2006/09/19/sonys-new-hvr-v1u-hdv-cam-does-24p/
Most every prosumer video camera will have manual white balance. To call a camera 'prosumer' and not have this feature would be a sin:) If you point your browser to filmtools.com, you'll find a nice kit that I use on every HD job. It provides laminated cards that have white on one side of every card and a variety of shades of blue on the others. I can't tell you how much this has come in handy. Just about every DP that I work with loves the blue cards -when you white balance to them, it gives the image a nice, warm look. They go nuts for these.

Best...]]>Nov 2nd 2006 11:45PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/09/19/sonys-new-hvr-v1u-hdv-cam-does-24p/http://www.engadget.com/2006/09/19/sonys-new-hvr-v1u-hdv-cam-does-24p/Dec 22nd 2006 6:24PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/09/19/sonys-new-hvr-v1u-hdv-cam-does-24p/http://www.engadget.com/2006/09/19/sonys-new-hvr-v1u-hdv-cam-does-24p/Dec 31st 2006 5:49PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/09/19/sonys-new-hvr-v1u-hdv-cam-does-24p/http://www.engadget.com/2006/09/19/sonys-new-hvr-v1u-hdv-cam-does-24p/Jan 5th 2007 3:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/09/19/sonys-new-hvr-v1u-hdv-cam-does-24p/http://www.engadget.com/2006/09/19/sonys-new-hvr-v1u-hdv-cam-does-24p/But this new Sony camera with its 1080 60 p will be blowing all the others out of the water.
Unfortunatly the Panasonic has one problem, solid state memory, P2 Cards. They are way to expensive to purchase, and they are a real pain in the ass to back up with. With out the cards you cant even use the interpolometer feture on the Panasonic.

Now Im wondering if this new Sony has a built in interpolometer for shooting timelapes?
One thing that also makes me question, the size of there Cmos chips, why did they make them smaller? Sony's Cmos chips are horible in higher and lower lighing levels. The images are almost unusable for most pro productions. High levels, you must use gradiant filters etc!
Befor I get to excited about this cheepy cam, Ill have to test drive it in both high and low lighting samples in a studio.

However the Canon A1 probably will do much better in all lighting conditions.
Make sure you try them out first before purchasing one over the other.
]]>Jan 5th 2007 9:23PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/09/19/sonys-new-hvr-v1u-hdv-cam-does-24p/http://www.engadget.com/2006/09/19/sonys-new-hvr-v1u-hdv-cam-does-24p/Jan 6th 2007 1:39AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/09/19/sonys-new-hvr-v1u-hdv-cam-does-24p/http://www.engadget.com/2006/09/19/sonys-new-hvr-v1u-hdv-cam-does-24p/
I hope this cleared up some misconceptions.

John]]>Jan 19th 2007 7:00PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/09/19/sonys-new-hvr-v1u-hdv-cam-does-24p/http://www.engadget.com/2006/09/19/sonys-new-hvr-v1u-hdv-cam-does-24p/
I hope this cleared up some misconceptions.

John
]]>Jan 20th 2007 10:32AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/09/19/sonys-new-hvr-v1u-hdv-cam-does-24p/http://www.engadget.com/2006/09/19/sonys-new-hvr-v1u-hdv-cam-does-24p/
Thanks! David]]>Jan 26th 2007 9:17AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/09/19/sonys-new-hvr-v1u-hdv-cam-does-24p/http://www.engadget.com/2006/09/19/sonys-new-hvr-v1u-hdv-cam-does-24p/Thanks - ]]>Mar 24th 2007 1:39AM