http://www.engadget.com/2006/09/22/another-thinkpad-battery-explodes/ Engadget Comments for http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2006/09/22/another-thinkpad-battery-explodes/http://www.engadget.com/2006/09/22/another-thinkpad-battery-explodes/Feb 28th 2008 10:29PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/09/22/another-thinkpad-battery-explodes/http://www.engadget.com/2006/09/22/another-thinkpad-battery-explodes/I tested this camera for a client. I didn’t have the light running for more than 15 minutes. The battery lasted approximately 6 hours before recharging. The LCD, however, had a few dead pixels - never saw this before. Tried returning for exchange and had to put up quite a fight. Anyone else seen this? http://www.batterylaptoppower.com]]>May 15th 2008 9:39PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/09/22/another-thinkpad-battery-explodes/http://www.engadget.com/2006/09/22/another-thinkpad-battery-explodes/Sep 22nd 2006 3:29PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/09/22/another-thinkpad-battery-explodes/http://www.engadget.com/2006/09/22/another-thinkpad-battery-explodes/Sep 22nd 2006 3:57PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/09/22/another-thinkpad-battery-explodes/http://www.engadget.com/2006/09/22/another-thinkpad-battery-explodes/
Essentially most, if not all, laptops, cell phones, MP3 players, Blackberries, Palms; hell just about any portable device that you can talk on, listen to, view stuff, play on, schedule things, and combinations thereof use the same lithium-ion batteries that these exploding laptops use.

Imagine if Sony had to recall all the batteries it sold in every portable device that it batteries for. That's mighty expensive.

And that expensive part is why we won't get full disclosure on this issue.]]>Sep 22nd 2006 3:38PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/09/22/another-thinkpad-battery-explodes/http://www.engadget.com/2006/09/22/another-thinkpad-battery-explodes/Sep 25th 2006 4:50PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/09/22/another-thinkpad-battery-explodes/http://www.engadget.com/2006/09/22/another-thinkpad-battery-explodes/
/Moving it off my lap...]]>Sep 22nd 2006 3:42PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/09/22/another-thinkpad-battery-explodes/http://www.engadget.com/2006/09/22/another-thinkpad-battery-explodes/Sep 22nd 2006 10:00PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/09/22/another-thinkpad-battery-explodes/http://www.engadget.com/2006/09/22/another-thinkpad-battery-explodes/
"Damn You eBay"]]>Sep 22nd 2006 3:46PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/09/22/another-thinkpad-battery-explodes/http://www.engadget.com/2006/09/22/another-thinkpad-battery-explodes/Sep 22nd 2006 4:48PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/09/22/another-thinkpad-battery-explodes/http://www.engadget.com/2006/09/22/another-thinkpad-battery-explodes/:)

Mark]]>Sep 22nd 2006 3:53PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/09/22/another-thinkpad-battery-explodes/http://www.engadget.com/2006/09/22/another-thinkpad-battery-explodes/
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AHH!! Sell everything!]]>Sep 22nd 2006 4:15PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/09/22/another-thinkpad-battery-explodes/http://www.engadget.com/2006/09/22/another-thinkpad-battery-explodes/
On another note, is it really possible to go by a single day WITHOUT hearing another battery explosion, good god!]]>Sep 22nd 2006 4:16PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/09/22/another-thinkpad-battery-explodes/http://www.engadget.com/2006/09/22/another-thinkpad-battery-explodes/Sep 22nd 2006 4:21PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/09/22/another-thinkpad-battery-explodes/http://www.engadget.com/2006/09/22/another-thinkpad-battery-explodes/Sep 22nd 2006 4:22PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/09/22/another-thinkpad-battery-explodes/http://www.engadget.com/2006/09/22/another-thinkpad-battery-explodes/Sep 22nd 2006 4:24PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/09/22/another-thinkpad-battery-explodes/http://www.engadget.com/2006/09/22/another-thinkpad-battery-explodes/Sep 22nd 2006 4:36PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/09/22/another-thinkpad-battery-explodes/http://www.engadget.com/2006/09/22/another-thinkpad-battery-explodes/
We know the reason for the recent sony cells malfunctioning and this is in no way connected, there is always a risk of li-ion cells rupturing (1 in 10000000 I think), the problem with the sony cells is that the odds are much higher due to the manufacturing error.

]]>Sep 22nd 2006 4:41PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/09/22/another-thinkpad-battery-explodes/http://www.engadget.com/2006/09/22/another-thinkpad-battery-explodes/http://www.batteryrefill.com - no problems yet (crossing fingers).]]>Sep 22nd 2006 4:46PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/09/22/another-thinkpad-battery-explodes/http://www.engadget.com/2006/09/22/another-thinkpad-battery-explodes/Sep 22nd 2006 4:54PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/09/22/another-thinkpad-battery-explodes/http://www.engadget.com/2006/09/22/another-thinkpad-battery-explodes/
So the penalty for trying to save a little money should be a fireball inside your house?

You shouldn't "expect" an explosion no matter what product you buy. Unless it's a case of TNT. Regular consumer products should not explode under any circumstances and there are strict regulations governing this type of thing. The producers of batteries with known defects that could lead to fire or explosion could be held criminally liable, not just liable for damages in civil court.
]]>Sep 22nd 2006 5:13PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/09/22/another-thinkpad-battery-explodes/http://www.engadget.com/2006/09/22/another-thinkpad-battery-explodes/Sep 22nd 2006 5:36PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/09/22/another-thinkpad-battery-explodes/http://www.engadget.com/2006/09/22/another-thinkpad-battery-explodes/Sep 22nd 2006 5:54PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/09/22/another-thinkpad-battery-explodes/http://www.engadget.com/2006/09/22/another-thinkpad-battery-explodes/Sep 22nd 2006 6:14PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/09/22/another-thinkpad-battery-explodes/http://www.engadget.com/2006/09/22/another-thinkpad-battery-explodes/Hmmm are all these batteries from the same manufacturer. It seems strange that all these batteries are blowing up now. Either this has happened before and we just didn't hear about it. Or major batteries are copying each other's designs and not changing anything.
Or someone is intentionally suppling bad parts to battery manufacturers or sabotaging the production lines.
We're doooooomed
Removing tin foil hat...

Seriously though, my mom was using her Powerbook that is part of the Apple recall and she dozed off with it on the bed. I had to show her some of the pics of what these things can do. ]]>Sep 22nd 2006 6:29PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/09/22/another-thinkpad-battery-explodes/http://www.engadget.com/2006/09/22/another-thinkpad-battery-explodes/Sep 22nd 2006 6:41PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/09/22/another-thinkpad-battery-explodes/http://www.engadget.com/2006/09/22/another-thinkpad-battery-explodes/Sep 22nd 2006 7:31PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/09/22/another-thinkpad-battery-explodes/http://www.engadget.com/2006/09/22/another-thinkpad-battery-explodes/Sep 22nd 2006 7:32PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/09/22/another-thinkpad-battery-explodes/http://www.engadget.com/2006/09/22/another-thinkpad-battery-explodes/Sep 22nd 2006 7:54PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/09/22/another-thinkpad-battery-explodes/http://www.engadget.com/2006/09/22/another-thinkpad-battery-explodes/Sep 22nd 2006 8:05PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/09/22/another-thinkpad-battery-explodes/http://www.engadget.com/2006/09/22/another-thinkpad-battery-explodes/Sep 22nd 2006 8:23PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/09/22/another-thinkpad-battery-explodes/http://www.engadget.com/2006/09/22/another-thinkpad-battery-explodes/Sep 22nd 2006 8:24PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/09/22/another-thinkpad-battery-explodes/http://www.engadget.com/2006/09/22/another-thinkpad-battery-explodes/
.. my ThinkPad is pre-Lenovo too. A glorious T42 :)

... with a SONY primary system battery.. which was replaced 3 times in the first year of ownership because the capacity kept dropping drastically.]]>Sep 22nd 2006 8:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/09/22/another-thinkpad-battery-explodes/http://www.engadget.com/2006/09/22/another-thinkpad-battery-explodes/Sep 23rd 2006 9:53AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/09/22/another-thinkpad-battery-explodes/http://www.engadget.com/2006/09/22/another-thinkpad-battery-explodes/Sep 22nd 2006 9:51PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/09/22/another-thinkpad-battery-explodes/http://www.engadget.com/2006/09/22/another-thinkpad-battery-explodes/Sep 22nd 2006 10:05PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/09/22/another-thinkpad-battery-explodes/http://www.engadget.com/2006/09/22/another-thinkpad-battery-explodes/
No, I expect these are simply copy-cat hoaxes by people going out of there way to blow up their old computers...hey, maybe they will get a fancy new laptop as a result of some kind of spuriously induced 'class-action' suit.]]>Sep 22nd 2006 10:19PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/09/22/another-thinkpad-battery-explodes/http://www.engadget.com/2006/09/22/another-thinkpad-battery-explodes/Sep 22nd 2006 10:20PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/09/22/another-thinkpad-battery-explodes/http://www.engadget.com/2006/09/22/another-thinkpad-battery-explodes/
Mark]]>Sep 22nd 2006 11:29PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/09/22/another-thinkpad-battery-explodes/http://www.engadget.com/2006/09/22/another-thinkpad-battery-explodes/http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energies_per_unit_mass

The above URL has the energy densities per mass of many noteworthy chemicals. It lists TNT as having 6 times the energy density of Li batteries. Think about the active part of your battery (IE the part that's inside the hard plastic case and which doesn't count the electronics) as being 1/6 TNT.

New technological developments in Li battery design are continually increasing the energy density, this of course means that the potential result of things going wrong will be more spectacular.]]>Sep 22nd 2006 11:32PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/09/22/another-thinkpad-battery-explodes/http://www.engadget.com/2006/09/22/another-thinkpad-battery-explodes/Sep 23rd 2006 4:52AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/09/22/another-thinkpad-battery-explodes/http://www.engadget.com/2006/09/22/another-thinkpad-battery-explodes/
What are the odds, I ask you, of this 'just happening' to a lead Linux kernel developer?

This battery came from Redmond, no doubt about it.]]>Sep 23rd 2006 9:10AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/09/22/another-thinkpad-battery-explodes/http://www.engadget.com/2006/09/22/another-thinkpad-battery-explodes/
I have tried to sell legitimate product on eBay at a TINY markup and you can not do it successfully. Batteries that COST $15.00 from the OEM are on eBAY for $.01.

And you complain about exploding batteries? PEOPLE ARE SO CHEAP AND SO GREEDY THAT THEY DESERVE TO LEARN WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU BRING IN CRAP.

I try to offer NEW, OEM product for $1.99 and sales are slow, becuase my customer can buy JUNK from Asia for $.40.

BLAME YOURSELF. GET USED TO IT.

90% of the "Motorola" batteries on eBAY are FAKE.

A large percentage of the batteries you received from Verizon under their warranty (Assurion) are FAKE.

No one wants to pay for anything that is original, new and high quality.

If you would like I will post the results of a CHEAP aftermarket charger battery explosion that happened in my home.

1 Lithium Battery in your cell phone can EXPLODE and hurt you very badly (or your loved one, CHEAPO) or can start a fire in your home or car.

The public has no one to blame but themselves. The manufacturers know who and where the FAKES are sold and where they are coming from, but no one really cares.

Think about it:

Verizon orders 10,000 replacement phones from Assurion at $100.00

The battery normally costs $15.00 each from the manufacturer, for a new OEM unit.

Put a FAKE in that costs $2.00.

$13.00 * 10,000 = $130,000 PROFIT on that little order.

Assurion replaces more like 100,000 or more phones per month.

Now take that and mulitply by Cingular, Nextel, etc and so on....

No need to rob a bank when you can make MILLIONS selling FAKE batteries.

Now imagine, laptop batteries cost $100 retail... The cells themself (usually 6 @ $4.50 each) cost $25 to $45. Substitute in JUNK and you get the picture.

The legitimate vendors go out of business, they can not compete. You are left with, well, what you have....

Exploding batteries.

Stop complaining, buy something from a legitimate vendor, sealed in an original package, or support legitimate dealers.

When I was in first grade my Dad told me, "if it seems to good to be true, it probably is."

Get it?

Steve]]>Sep 23rd 2006 11:13AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/09/22/another-thinkpad-battery-explodes/http://www.engadget.com/2006/09/22/another-thinkpad-battery-explodes/]]>Sep 23rd 2006 5:51PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/09/22/another-thinkpad-battery-explodes/http://www.engadget.com/2006/09/22/another-thinkpad-battery-explodes/
And shame on the major companies for ordering these low quality batteries, in particular.

Stephen was also correct when he quoted: "If it seems too good to be true, it probably is."]]>Sep 24th 2006 12:11AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/09/22/another-thinkpad-battery-explodes/http://www.engadget.com/2006/09/22/another-thinkpad-battery-explodes/
Mulder]]>Sep 25th 2006 11:53AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/09/22/another-thinkpad-battery-explodes/http://www.engadget.com/2006/09/22/another-thinkpad-battery-explodes/I just heard that the IBM think pad has a battery recall. where can i find out what think pad it was. and where I can go to replace it.
Please respond. becouse I own one. Thanks for your help]]>Sep 29th 2006 6:44AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/09/22/another-thinkpad-battery-explodes/http://www.engadget.com/2006/09/22/another-thinkpad-battery-explodes/I just heard that the IBM think pad has a battery recall. where can i find out what think pad it was. and where I can go to replace it.
Please respond. becouse I own one. Thanks for your help.
My think pad heats up to quit a temp, when I'm using it. and I have avoided using it. becouse of this heated thing going on.]]>Sep 28th 2006 9:29PM