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<generator>Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/</generator><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Dutch voting machines hacked to play chess]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2006/10/06/dutch-voting-machines-hacked-to-play-chess/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2006/10/06/dutch-voting-machines-hacked-to-play-chess/</guid><description><![CDATA[its great when people break  into  your system before you put it  in  serious use.before  you  launch the system  trying  hacking it if  you  cant or  hire hackers to test the system]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[nymph]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Oct 5th 2008 1:04PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Dutch voting machines hacked to play chess]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2006/10/06/dutch-voting-machines-hacked-to-play-chess/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2006/10/06/dutch-voting-machines-hacked-to-play-chess/</guid><description><![CDATA[Gee... and we thought people had trouble with the butterfly ballot!  <br><br><a href="http://www.averagebetty.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.averagebetty.com</a>]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Average Betty]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Oct 6th 2006 6:35PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Dutch voting machines hacked to play chess]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2006/10/06/dutch-voting-machines-hacked-to-play-chess/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2006/10/06/dutch-voting-machines-hacked-to-play-chess/</guid><description><![CDATA[what a bul it is not about the tools it is about the people that us them end need to prses the info thats what is bad in this cont end how they do it in holand. maybe is a lott bether end evry bod can do what the did if you have the masch<br>abraham]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[mc]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Oct 6th 2006 6:40PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Dutch voting machines hacked to play chess]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2006/10/06/dutch-voting-machines-hacked-to-play-chess/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2006/10/06/dutch-voting-machines-hacked-to-play-chess/</guid><description><![CDATA[wut he said ^^]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Nick]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Oct 6th 2006 6:58PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Dutch voting machines hacked to play chess]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2006/10/06/dutch-voting-machines-hacked-to-play-chess/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2006/10/06/dutch-voting-machines-hacked-to-play-chess/</guid><description><![CDATA[What *did* he say?]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[crzy]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Oct 6th 2006 8:16PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Dutch voting machines hacked to play chess]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2006/10/06/dutch-voting-machines-hacked-to-play-chess/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2006/10/06/dutch-voting-machines-hacked-to-play-chess/</guid><description><![CDATA[MC, I have no idea what you just said, therefore I'm going to assume it was either <br><br>1. Stupid<br>2. Ignorant<br>3. Useless<br><br><br>That is All]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Scott]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Oct 6th 2006 7:40PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Dutch voting machines hacked to play chess]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2006/10/06/dutch-voting-machines-hacked-to-play-chess/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2006/10/06/dutch-voting-machines-hacked-to-play-chess/</guid><description><![CDATA[Ballots have a pivotal role in republic nations around the world.  And the speed with which ballots are counted and gathered does not and cannot out-weigh the value of an uncontestably accurate ballot.  Governments must embrace efficiency, it's true.  But their citizenry must have full confidence is the efficient manner in which a government conducts itself, otherwise government is wholely useless as a head cut off from the body.  The head senses the environment around the body but gathers little of what goes on inside the body.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[JGL]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Oct 7th 2006 5:14PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Dutch voting machines hacked to play chess]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2006/10/06/dutch-voting-machines-hacked-to-play-chess/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2006/10/06/dutch-voting-machines-hacked-to-play-chess/</guid><description><![CDATA[i trhink he wrote that in dutch and then translated like this<br>dutch->french->spanish->italian->chinese->dutch->english]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Igor]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Oct 6th 2006 9:07PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Dutch voting machines hacked to play chess]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2006/10/06/dutch-voting-machines-hacked-to-play-chess/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2006/10/06/dutch-voting-machines-hacked-to-play-chess/</guid><description><![CDATA[Maybe more people will be attracted to come out and vote if after they punch in their vote for their favorite candidate, they can follow it up with a round of Halo capture the flag with the other voters.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[NeoteriX]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Oct 6th 2006 9:52PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Dutch voting machines hacked to play chess]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2006/10/06/dutch-voting-machines-hacked-to-play-chess/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2006/10/06/dutch-voting-machines-hacked-to-play-chess/</guid><description><![CDATA[This is inaccurate. A Dutch group of hackers did this to a Diebold machine that's used in Ireland not the Netherlands. I think someone misconnected the dots here<br><br>see:<a href="http://www.theregister.com/2006/10/05/e-voting/" rel="nofollow">http://www.theregister.com/2006/10/05/e-voting/</a>]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Spinchange]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Oct 7th 2006 6:19PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Dutch voting machines hacked to play chess]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2006/10/06/dutch-voting-machines-hacked-to-play-chess/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2006/10/06/dutch-voting-machines-hacked-to-play-chess/</guid><description><![CDATA[It was a Nedap/Groenendaal ES3B machine, not a Diebold one. Even your own link says Nedap.<br><br>The 'few hackers' mentioned in the article are actually  a "coalition of concerned citizens"  calling themselves "We don't trust voting computers" and they were able to BUY two machines off an unnamed municipality in The Netherlands to test the manufacturer's claim it was "hack proof". <br><br>The group even give {some of) their names and cell phone numbers on their website. One of them, Rop Gonggrijp, is a very well known 'white hat' hacker in The Netherlands.<br><br><a href="http://www.wijvertrouwenstemcomputersniet.nl/English" rel="nofollow">http://www.wijvertrouwenstemcomputersniet.nl/English</a><br><br><a href="http://www.wijvertrouwenstemcomputersniet.nl/Nedap-en" rel="nofollow">http://www.wijvertrouwenstemcomputersniet.nl/Nedap-en</a><br><br><a href="http://www.wijvertrouwenstemcomputersniet.nl/images/9/91/Es3b-en.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.wijvertrouwenstemcomputersniet.nl/images/9/91/Es3b-en.pdf</a><br>]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Juicebeetle]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Oct 7th 2006 7:05PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Dutch voting machines hacked to play chess]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2006/10/06/dutch-voting-machines-hacked-to-play-chess/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2006/10/06/dutch-voting-machines-hacked-to-play-chess/</guid><description><![CDATA[No matter who plays, it always says "Bush won"]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Boris714]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Oct 6th 2006 11:36PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Dutch voting machines hacked to play chess]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2006/10/06/dutch-voting-machines-hacked-to-play-chess/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2006/10/06/dutch-voting-machines-hacked-to-play-chess/</guid><description><![CDATA[I propose a Deep Blue vs. Dutch Voting Machine in chess match!]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Dp462090]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Oct 7th 2006 1:10AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Dutch voting machines hacked to play chess]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2006/10/06/dutch-voting-machines-hacked-to-play-chess/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2006/10/06/dutch-voting-machines-hacked-to-play-chess/</guid><description><![CDATA[Delicate is also the way the hackers got hold of a voting machine: Supposedly they simply called a local goverment and asked for a voting machine for an article about the upcoming elections, pretending to be journalists. This was okay!<br><br>Another group in Holland (<a href="http://www.wijvertrouwenstemcomputersniet.nl/" rel="nofollow">http://www.wijvertrouwenstemcomputersniet.nl/</a> (we do not trust voting machines); probalby affiliated with the hackers) is organising busttrips to the ten voting districts still using the old red pencil voting method.<br><br>I won;t use that, but I'm seriously thinking about filing an official complaint during voting about 'me unable to verify the registration of my vote']]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Marc]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Oct 7th 2006 3:56AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Dutch voting machines hacked to play chess]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2006/10/06/dutch-voting-machines-hacked-to-play-chess/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2006/10/06/dutch-voting-machines-hacked-to-play-chess/</guid><description><![CDATA[Using simplified, 'ancient', technology is actually a bonus for some high-security applications. The Diebold machines run on windows, you can link up to them using a standard modem connection (even during election) and access the content of the voting files and the voting application. Using MS Access, you may change the voting files without leaving a trace.<br>Not so with the Nedap computers: the Dutch hackers physically opened the device and replaced the EPROMs that contained the voting software. How fair is that? And how far is it from replacing the mainboard?<br>To be sure, the security of the Nedap machines leaves a lot to be desired (paper trail, verifiable software, authentification of parts). But they are definitely not going to be improved by upgrading them to a pentium and installing MS Windows.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Joscha]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Oct 7th 2006 5:39AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Dutch voting machines hacked to play chess]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2006/10/06/dutch-voting-machines-hacked-to-play-chess/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2006/10/06/dutch-voting-machines-hacked-to-play-chess/</guid><description><![CDATA[STUPID?<br><br>USELESS?<br><br>WOW!!!!!<br><br><br>THIS WOULD HAVE BEEN ALLOT NICER THEN VOTING FOR BUSH!!!!<br><br><br>i would have liked to play some chess instead of voting for that tupe wearing jackass..... now that im 18 i can vote... and guide this country to it's  rightfull place..... instead of voting for jackasses that only do stuff for he rich.... lets play chess....]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Baby-G]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Oct 7th 2006 9:42AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Dutch voting machines hacked to play chess]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2006/10/06/dutch-voting-machines-hacked-to-play-chess/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2006/10/06/dutch-voting-machines-hacked-to-play-chess/</guid><description><![CDATA[That's funny.  Fully electronic voting is going to take a really long time to get implemented if this is the kind of technology people are aiming for right now.<br><br><a href="http://www.lunareclipse.com/?diebold-tries-again" rel="nofollow">http://www.lunareclipse.com/?diebold-tries-again</a><br>]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[umopapisdn]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Oct 9th 2006 12:26PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Dutch voting machines hacked to play chess]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2006/10/06/dutch-voting-machines-hacked-to-play-chess/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2006/10/06/dutch-voting-machines-hacked-to-play-chess/</guid><description><![CDATA[In before obligatory Bush jok- Oh wait.<br><br>This is pretty interesting stuff.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[HB]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Oct 7th 2006 4:57PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Dutch voting machines hacked to play chess]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2006/10/06/dutch-voting-machines-hacked-to-play-chess/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2006/10/06/dutch-voting-machines-hacked-to-play-chess/</guid><description><![CDATA[What happened was that in 2004 these machines were used in ireland, dublin only. It was later discovered that these machines were found to give out inaccurate results. a report was commisioned and it was from the findings in this report that the dutch hackers used to hack into the e-voting machines.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[col]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Oct 7th 2006 8:52PM</pubDate></item></channel></rss>
