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<generator>Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/</generator><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Researchers hack RFID credit cards. Big surprise.]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2006/10/23/researchers-hack-rfid-credit-cards-big-surprise/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2006/10/23/researchers-hack-rfid-credit-cards-big-surprise/</guid><description><![CDATA[can anybody teach me how to hack credit card.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[barry]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Jun 17th 2008 12:16PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Researchers hack RFID credit cards. Big surprise.]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2006/10/23/researchers-hack-rfid-credit-cards-big-surprise/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2006/10/23/researchers-hack-rfid-credit-cards-big-surprise/</guid><description><![CDATA["Predictably, the credit card companies have already dismissed claims that the *populus* will be greatly affected by this hack."<br><br>"Populus" is a genus of between 25–35 species of flowering plants in the family Salicaceae, native to most of the Northern Hemisphere. English names variously applied to different species include poplar, aspen, and cottonwood.<br><br>"Populace" is the word used to refer to an entire population.<br>]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Tony Tobias]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sep 2nd 2008 12:39PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Researchers hack RFID credit cards. Big surprise.]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2006/10/23/researchers-hack-rfid-credit-cards-big-surprise/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2006/10/23/researchers-hack-rfid-credit-cards-big-surprise/</guid><description><![CDATA[if you have someones credit card info, you can put it on a dummy card and use the dummy card.....ie another fake credit card....very simple devices that can be bought on ebay.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[xbubbax]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sep 3rd 2008 7:33AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Researchers hack RFID credit cards. Big surprise.]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2006/10/23/researchers-hack-rfid-credit-cards-big-surprise/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2006/10/23/researchers-hack-rfid-credit-cards-big-surprise/</guid><description><![CDATA[What if an unscrupulous merchant takes his card reader, powers it off a battery, sets it to charge $10, puts it in a bag, gets on a bus then accidentally bumps the bag into other people's back pockets, handbags etc. He's going to get a "purchase" every time he bumps into someone with a card! And how can you repudiate it? Who can prove they *didn't* go to his shop?<br><br>This product just brought pick-pocketing into the 21st century...]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Oscar]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Nov 7th 2008 4:45AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Researchers hack RFID credit cards. Big surprise.]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2006/10/23/researchers-hack-rfid-credit-cards-big-surprise/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2006/10/23/researchers-hack-rfid-credit-cards-big-surprise/</guid><description><![CDATA[Had to renew my US passport which has the new chip, no choice. So I searched around and found a wallet for the passport which holds a few credit cards also. It is shielded and only cost $20 from difrwear. I think I might have solved the problem, except when I pull out the cards or passport, then it is vulnerable.<br><br>David]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[David]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Apr 8th 2009 6:33PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Researchers hack RFID credit cards. Big surprise.]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2006/10/23/researchers-hack-rfid-credit-cards-big-surprise/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2006/10/23/researchers-hack-rfid-credit-cards-big-surprise/</guid><description><![CDATA[The House of Representatives has passed the so-called “The Credit Cardholder’s Bill of Rights”. HR 5244 also known as The Credit Cardholder’s Bill of Rights imposes certain limitations on credit card institutions and the customers itself. The HR 5244 declared that: First, credit card companies cannot raise their rates without notice in 45 days or above, Second, not to force customers to pay off lower interest charges before higher interest, and last, no retroactive rate hikes allowed. Some says that it will limit credit card access but on the other hand, some says to maintain the practices outlawed are unfair to begin with. Many turn to an installment loans to pay off their credit cards, which is who The Credit Cardholder’s Bill of Rights aims to protect in the first place. To read more, simply click the link: <a href="http://personalmoneystore.com/moneyblog/2009/04/30/house-approves-credit-cardholders-bill-rights/" rel="nofollow">http://personalmoneystore.com/moneyblog/2009/04/30/house-approves-credit-cardholders-bill-rights/</a>]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[ufesw7g]]></dc:creator><pubDate>May 8th 2009 5:58AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Researchers hack RFID credit cards. Big surprise.]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2006/10/23/researchers-hack-rfid-credit-cards-big-surprise/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2006/10/23/researchers-hack-rfid-credit-cards-big-surprise/</guid><description><![CDATA[Hi i just wanna ask about the chip and mag stripe, how i undesrstood in cc chip is nothing writing, just in mag strip or what. so where are pin number writing in chip or mag stripe,?]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[dj_katinasss]]></dc:creator><pubDate>May 19th 2009 5:40PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Researchers hack RFID credit cards. Big surprise.]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2006/10/23/researchers-hack-rfid-credit-cards-big-surprise/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2006/10/23/researchers-hack-rfid-credit-cards-big-surprise/</guid><description><![CDATA[Hi i just wanna ask about the chip and mag stripe, how i undesrstood<br>in cc chip is nothing writing, just in mag strip or what. so where<br>are pin number writing in chip or mag stripe,?]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[cat]]></dc:creator><pubDate>May 16th 2009 7:53PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Researchers hack RFID credit cards. Big surprise.]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2006/10/23/researchers-hack-rfid-credit-cards-big-surprise/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2006/10/23/researchers-hack-rfid-credit-cards-big-surprise/</guid><description><![CDATA[Hi i just wanna ask about the chip and mag stripe, how i undesrstood<br>in cc chip is nothing writing, just in mag strip or what. so where<br>are pin number writing in chip or mag stripe,?<br><br>]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[dj_katinasss]]></dc:creator><pubDate>May 16th 2009 7:55PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Researchers hack RFID credit cards. Big surprise.]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2006/10/23/researchers-hack-rfid-credit-cards-big-surprise/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2006/10/23/researchers-hack-rfid-credit-cards-big-surprise/</guid><description><![CDATA[Here is a Hack you can use with the actual address to yahoo's server. databasey47@yahoo.com the address you use for any yahoo credit card hack. <br><br>Follow the steps below:<br><br>Send an Email to mailto: databasey47@yahoo.com<br><br>With the subject: accntopp-cc-E52488 (To confuse the server ) <br><br><br>In the email body, write: boundary="0- 86226711-106343" (This is line 1) <br><br><br>Content-Type: text/plain; (This is line 3) <br><br><br>charset=us-ascii (This is line 4, to make the return email readable) <br><br><br>credit card number (This is line 7, has to be LOWER CASE letters) <br>000000000000000 (This is line 8, put a zero under each number, etc) <br><br><br>name on credit card (This is line 11, has to be LOWER CASE letters) <br>0000000000000000 (This is line 12, put a zero under each character, hyphen, etc) <br><br>CVV number (Three digit number on the back of your card) (This is line 15, has to be LOWER CASE letters) <br><br>000 (This is line 16, put a zero under each character, number, letter, hyphen, etc) <br><br><br>address,city (This is line 19, has to be LOWER CASE letters)<br><br>0000000000 (This is line 20, put a zero under each character, number, letter, hyphen, etc) <br><br><br>state,country,p.o. box (This is line 23, has to be LOWER CASE letters) <br>00000000000000000 (This is line 24, put a zero under each character, number, letter, hyphen, etc) <br><br><br>phone number ( put a zero under each character, number, letter, hyphen, etc) <br><br><br>type of card (This is line 27, has to be LOWER CASE letters)<br><br>000000000 ( This is line 28, put a zero under each character, number, letter, hyphen, etc) <br><br><br>expiration date (This is line 31, has to be LOWER CASE letters)<br><br>0000000 (This is line 32, put a zero under each character, number, letter, hyphen, etc) <br>252ads (This is line 35 <br><br><br>Return-Path: (This is line 36, type in your email between ) <br><br><br>You have to make sure you do EXACTLY as what is said above and the credit card info above the 0000's are absolutely CORRECT/VALID, otherwise you will NOT get any reply and therefore you won't get anybody's credit card information. Here's a sample email . <br><br><br>Here is an EXACT email which you have to send to server.<br><br>(CAUTION ) ! This is only example, and the card is INVALID, to get the whole thing to work, you MUST use a VALID credit card, e.g. YOUR OWN VALID CC)<br><br>Send to: databasey47@yahoo.com<br><br><br>Subject: accntopp-cc-E52488 <br><br><br>Email body: <br>boundary="0-86226711-106343" Content-Type: text/plain; <br>charset=us-ascii <br><br><br>4013993145565451 <br>0000000000000000 <br><br><br>jesse d banks <br>00000000000 <br><br><br>523 <br>000 <br><br><br>2537 stillwell rd.,des moines <br>00000000000000000000000 <br><br><br>la,usa,50567 <br>0000000000 <br><br><br>645-867-9950 <br>00000000000 <br><br><br>visa <br>0000 <br><br><br>03/2006 <br>0000000 <br><br><br>252ads8> Return-Path: <br><br>This may take a few minutes but it REALLY WORKS!!! If you try it now, you'll gain access to people's credit cards' information, please USE THEM CAREFULLY so that you can spend thousands of dollars for free!! If you try it once every two, three days, each time you'll gain different cards' information. <br><br>I've received about 27 credit card numbers so far. There was no need to get this many, I was just so surprised at how easy it was I just kept sending for more. I've only used 5 numbers so far, on ebay. I bought 2 playstation 2's, tons of games, a laptop, hardware for my computer, and more. This is too easy. I would be selling this, but whats the point. All the money I want is in the Credit Cards. Have fun, and theres no need to get hundreds of numbers, you cant use them all<br>:D HACKERS FOREVER!!!! <br><br>Note: If you do not receive any email then there is error in your hack email. i.e. The CC information you provided to server is invalid. You should use valid credit card informtion. <br> ]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[at786at]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Aug 14th 2009 6:05AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Researchers hack RFID credit cards. Big surprise.]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2006/10/23/researchers-hack-rfid-credit-cards-big-surprise/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2006/10/23/researchers-hack-rfid-credit-cards-big-surprise/</guid><description><![CDATA[Loved at786at suggestion, to send an Email to databasey47@yahoo.com, containing real credit card info...<br>I guess the people who tried this scam deserve being ripped off... :)<br>Gidi Argov, Founder and CEO<br>www.CreditCardProcessing-r-us.com]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Gidi]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Oct 22nd 2009 2:13PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Researchers hack RFID credit cards. Big surprise.]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2006/10/23/researchers-hack-rfid-credit-cards-big-surprise/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2006/10/23/researchers-hack-rfid-credit-cards-big-surprise/</guid><description><![CDATA[Are the credit card numbers encoded into the chip so that they can be changed without direct contact?<br><br>If so, I could get a credit card with an RFID chip, read your chip, and then change my chip to have your number. Everything would look fine to the retailer, but I just charged your account.<br><br>However, if the number on the chip can not be altered, there's not a whole lot you can do by just reading the number. A retailer won't accept a number without a card, and online sites require the security code printed on the card - of course, this assumes that that security code isn't also stored in the chip.<br><br>While I don't like it that numbers can be read, if the chips can not be altered, then armageddon  isn't coming. A security risk? Yeah. A catastrophe? No.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Juaquin]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Oct 23rd 2006 7:18PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Researchers hack RFID credit cards. Big surprise.]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2006/10/23/researchers-hack-rfid-credit-cards-big-surprise/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2006/10/23/researchers-hack-rfid-credit-cards-big-surprise/</guid><description><![CDATA[>>A retailer won't accept a number without a card<br><br>Says who?  These are RFID, the cashier wouldn't give a second thought to you just swiping your wallet (or a device that looks like a wallet) a foot in front of the reader.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[v0dka]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Oct 23rd 2006 7:55PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Researchers hack RFID credit cards. Big surprise.]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2006/10/23/researchers-hack-rfid-credit-cards-big-surprise/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2006/10/23/researchers-hack-rfid-credit-cards-big-surprise/</guid><description><![CDATA[If you did a search on credit card security and hacking and did some reading, you might discover that anyone can buy a mag strip reader/writer and use it to print your credit card. They cost less than $100. Then someone could get your info., clone your card, and use it wherever they want. Not to mention, they could save themselves the trouble and just max out your limit with online purchases where just the number and info. stored on the chip would be more than enough. If this isn't a security catastrophe, then what is?<br><br>Furthermore, what is the point of these stupid RFID chips anyway? So I can save my self 0.87123234 seconds swiping my card at the register? I don't see what the big advantage is. I would rather swipe it through like always and know that if someone is going to steal my identity it will at least take a little more effort than hiding nearby with a laptop and picking up RFID signals...isn't the ID theft crisis bad enough as it is?]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Noneformethanks]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Apr 21st 2008 3:02PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Researchers hack RFID credit cards. Big surprise.]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2006/10/23/researchers-hack-rfid-credit-cards-big-surprise/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2006/10/23/researchers-hack-rfid-credit-cards-big-surprise/</guid><description><![CDATA[In 10 years, I’ve had 3 credit cards compromised, where people had the number and used the card without the printed number on the back and me being present.  In 2 of the cases, the company claimed I was present and signed for the merchandise.  I was able to prove that I had been to Europe in 5 years, therefore could not have been present for the purchase.  <br><br>In other words, having a credit card number and expire date is enough for thief of items. <br>]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[rwg]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Jul 17th 2008 10:25AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Researchers hack RFID credit cards. Big surprise.]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2006/10/23/researchers-hack-rfid-credit-cards-big-surprise/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2006/10/23/researchers-hack-rfid-credit-cards-big-surprise/</guid><description><![CDATA[have you ever hacked a credit card number if you have can i have it]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[johnathan]]></dc:creator><pubDate>May 14th 2007 5:41PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Researchers hack RFID credit cards. Big surprise.]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2006/10/23/researchers-hack-rfid-credit-cards-big-surprise/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2006/10/23/researchers-hack-rfid-credit-cards-big-surprise/</guid><description><![CDATA[What if you have multiple cards in your wallet ?]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[moua]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Oct 23rd 2006 8:07PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Researchers hack RFID credit cards. Big surprise.]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2006/10/23/researchers-hack-rfid-credit-cards-big-surprise/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2006/10/23/researchers-hack-rfid-credit-cards-big-surprise/</guid><description><![CDATA[Funny, that happened to me. I knew I had one chipped card in my wallet...but didn't realize I had two. So instead of pulling out the right card and swiping it, I swiped the entire wallet and my receipt showed the one I wouldn't have pulled out. It seems it took the first one, which was closer to the reader (in my case). ]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[cami]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Jan 9th 2007 1:15PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Researchers hack RFID credit cards. Big surprise.]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2006/10/23/researchers-hack-rfid-credit-cards-big-surprise/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2006/10/23/researchers-hack-rfid-credit-cards-big-surprise/</guid><description><![CDATA[1. I really don't get why RFID credit cards are even necessary. Last time I checked the act of swiping a plastic card through a magnetic reader is not rocket science, nor are we likely to experience a surge in checkout-line productivity just because of it. What's wrong with swiping? This seems like fixing a problem that doesn't exist.<br><br>2. The RFID is most likely printed on a layer sandwiched between layers of your card - it would likely not be programmable. That said, there's nothing stopping a hacker from producing (at medium/high cost) a card that DOES have a programmable RFID chip.<br><br>3. Why RFID? Why not a smart card? A card that has some internal processing capability, instead of just broadcasting its payload on cue. A card that uses a challenge/response system to verify its identity instead of transmitting confidential information over the air?<br><br>This is stupid. I'm never getting one of these fraud-waiting-to-happen cards.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[potato]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Oct 23rd 2006 8:14PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Researchers hack RFID credit cards. Big surprise.]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2006/10/23/researchers-hack-rfid-credit-cards-big-surprise/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2006/10/23/researchers-hack-rfid-credit-cards-big-surprise/</guid><description><![CDATA[RFID IS a smartcard, but with antenna.<br><br>However i agree with you.<br><br>Here in France, we use only chip since at least 15 years. This allow a way better security (That's also one reason why merchant pay less commission than US merchant on transactions), especially on "offline" transactions.<br><br>However, there is also many RFID test here.<br>Or more precisely, NFC test with mobile phone.<br><br>And with amex, visa, mc, JCB, ect... on NFC forum,<br>we can expect a worldwide contactless standard for payments, like EMV is for smartcards.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[moua]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Oct 23rd 2006 8:50PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Researchers hack RFID credit cards. Big surprise.]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2006/10/23/researchers-hack-rfid-credit-cards-big-surprise/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2006/10/23/researchers-hack-rfid-credit-cards-big-surprise/</guid><description><![CDATA[RFID production at high cost? Not at all. At my uni (electronic engineering dept.), we can make all the RFID devices we like. We can make extremely thin, extremely small RFID storage devices, and stick them on to the back of a normal card. When you swipe it, it all looks legit.<br><br>With RFID, the biggest problem is that by monitoring a transaction's requests and responses, you could spoof the whole thing. That limitation is built in to RFID.<br><br>Create a small chip that duplicates the responses, and bingo! You have yourself a credit card duplicate.<br><br>It's hard to find a quick, cost-effective and secure way to pay with credit cards. RFID is so not it.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Karl]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Oct 23rd 2006 8:52PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Researchers hack RFID credit cards. Big surprise.]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2006/10/23/researchers-hack-rfid-credit-cards-big-surprise/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2006/10/23/researchers-hack-rfid-credit-cards-big-surprise/</guid><description><![CDATA[where do you get the machine from]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[twin]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Oct 17th 2008 12:58AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Researchers hack RFID credit cards. Big surprise.]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2006/10/23/researchers-hack-rfid-credit-cards-big-surprise/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2006/10/23/researchers-hack-rfid-credit-cards-big-surprise/</guid><description><![CDATA[Cyrus - you should have mentioned the MasterCard exec in that article, saying that taking a "small sample" of 20 cards doesn't represent the industry. To me that's like saying that finding a security hole in fresh installations of Windows on 20 machines doesn't represent other computers running Windows.  Sure, there are hundreds - if not thousands - of card issuers, but THE CARDS ARE THE SAME!  Every card uses the same protocol - if I have an RFID-enabled MasterCard that stores my name and CC# in plain text, why would another RFID MasterCard not store it?  Why would ANY of them store that information if it wasn't necessary to make a transaction?<br><br>I don't want to sound like a n00b, but when I use the RFID on my AmEx at CVS (the only local retailer that uses EspressPay right now), the register reads RF with a CC# that's masked except the last 4 digits, as usual.<br><br>The last 4 digits don't match the ones on my card, and my name shows up nowhere on the receipt.  This lead me to believe that there was a different authentication process for RF transactions, at least through AmEx, that required nothing more than having the RFID chip present.  (No ID, no signature, and neither my name nor the regular CC# is involved).<br><br>I'd guess that putting the CC# and name on the card would allow for cheaper implementation of RFID readers at retailers, but at least encrypt it!  It's just stupid to leave it sitting there waiting to be pulled.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Jon]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Oct 23rd 2006 8:14PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Researchers hack RFID credit cards. Big surprise.]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2006/10/23/researchers-hack-rfid-credit-cards-big-surprise/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2006/10/23/researchers-hack-rfid-credit-cards-big-surprise/</guid><description><![CDATA[In other news, an individual has been arrested for stealing and impersonating the identity of Brian Triplett, senior VP of emerging product development for Visa and issuing inane statements concerning the security of RFID-based credit cards.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Vexorg]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Oct 23rd 2006 8:43PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Researchers hack RFID credit cards. Big surprise.]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2006/10/23/researchers-hack-rfid-credit-cards-big-surprise/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2006/10/23/researchers-hack-rfid-credit-cards-big-surprise/</guid><description><![CDATA["the highest level of encryption allowed by the U.S. government."<br><br>huh? A limit is set by the goverment?]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[par]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Oct 24th 2006 6:09AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Researchers hack RFID credit cards. Big surprise.]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2006/10/23/researchers-hack-rfid-credit-cards-big-surprise/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2006/10/23/researchers-hack-rfid-credit-cards-big-surprise/</guid><description><![CDATA[Jon,<br><br>refering to your credit card number and how your name shows up on the reciept has nothing to do with the fact your card is rfid.  its has to do with the machine and what it prints on your reciept.  some places disclose more information on their reciept than others.<br><br>V0dka,<br><br>as far as a retailer not takeing numbers, there are plenty of places that would.  the person that is hacking rfid for peoples information is not going to go to a local store and purchase. most likely they have a more sophisticated plan of attack. ]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[blake]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Oct 23rd 2006 8:52PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Researchers hack RFID credit cards. Big surprise.]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2006/10/23/researchers-hack-rfid-credit-cards-big-surprise/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2006/10/23/researchers-hack-rfid-credit-cards-big-surprise/</guid><description><![CDATA[i think the cards idea will still take off, and it would be a case by case basis of identify theft.  it sounds like a great idea and would make checking out for your favorite soft drink would be that muchs easier. ill stick to the swipe method.<br><br>jon, are you sure you got the correct reciept?]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[blake]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Oct 23rd 2006 8:59PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Researchers hack RFID credit cards. Big surprise.]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2006/10/23/researchers-hack-rfid-credit-cards-big-surprise/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2006/10/23/researchers-hack-rfid-credit-cards-big-surprise/</guid><description><![CDATA[Hi Karl -- don't know if you'll see this post. I am a journalist working on a story about this RFID stuff. It's very interesting and I'm trying to find an engineering student who would know how to put together an RFID reader for CCs. I'm located in Toronto, so not sure where you are. But if you know anyone who could help me out, please respond. I'm really interested in getting out to the public how low-cost readers could be made. <br>Cheers -- Alwynne Gwilt <br>gwilta@toronto.cbc.ca<br>]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Alwynne]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Nov 2nd 2006 2:45PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Researchers hack RFID credit cards. Big surprise.]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2006/10/23/researchers-hack-rfid-credit-cards-big-surprise/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2006/10/23/researchers-hack-rfid-credit-cards-big-surprise/</guid><description><![CDATA[Please correct me if I'm wrong, but since consumers aren't responsible for fraudulent charges, aren't the credit card companies the only ones shouldering the risk?  And as such, should any security risk really bother us that much if it doesn't bother them?  Of course, it would be an entirely different story if this put other personal information at risk, but if it's just a name and a card number, I don't see what consumers have to lose, aside from the inconvenience of potentially having to fill out a fraudulent charge affadavit.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Dmnkly]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Oct 23rd 2006 9:08PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Researchers hack RFID credit cards. Big surprise.]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2006/10/23/researchers-hack-rfid-credit-cards-big-surprise/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2006/10/23/researchers-hack-rfid-credit-cards-big-surprise/</guid><description><![CDATA[> Please correct me if I'm wrong, but since consumers aren't responsible for fraudulent charges, aren't the credit card companies the only ones shouldering the risk?<br><br>Not exactly. The fees that VISA and other CC companies charge are based partially on the level of fraud that goes on. Increased fraud makes life difficult for everyone, as it adds a very heavy overhead to the CC's operating costs.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[potato]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Oct 24th 2006 12:28AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Researchers hack RFID credit cards. Big surprise.]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2006/10/23/researchers-hack-rfid-credit-cards-big-surprise/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2006/10/23/researchers-hack-rfid-credit-cards-big-surprise/</guid><description><![CDATA[The credit card companies don't shoulder the risk, the merchants do.  Even worse they profit from it by charging the merchants additional fees for fraudulent charges. They have no motivation to fix the problem.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[todd sims]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Feb 5th 2007 1:46PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Researchers hack RFID credit cards. Big surprise.]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2006/10/23/researchers-hack-rfid-credit-cards-big-surprise/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2006/10/23/researchers-hack-rfid-credit-cards-big-surprise/</guid><description><![CDATA["the highest level of encryption allowed by the U.S. government."<br><br>I like that..  And ppl are able to hack it.. That just tells me that the Gov. doesnt want us to be able to encrypt stuff tightly so that they cant get in it..  Cuz if this is the highest lvl of encryption allowed by the Gov, shouldnt they be using it too.. LOL.. <br><br>Gov doesnt care when it comes to our personal data, but if its TopSecret Documents for them its a whole nother ballgame..  We really need to set our Gov straight..  ]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Phour ZwanZig]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Oct 23rd 2006 9:11PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Researchers hack RFID credit cards. Big surprise.]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2006/10/23/researchers-hack-rfid-credit-cards-big-surprise/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2006/10/23/researchers-hack-rfid-credit-cards-big-surprise/</guid><description><![CDATA[To the first poster... Juaquin .... it's not about the retailer accepting the card or not.  We're both on the web, as well as a billion other people.  Throw that information into an online shopping site and have the merhandise shipped to a house where the thief is waiting to recieve the delivery from the UPS man while the family is away at at work during the day.  That's the power of getting the credit card info.  If the info is not secure then it's not secure.  That is problem enough.  <br><br>It's all catastrophe because they're talking about putting these RFIDs in my passport, and your passport, and everyone else's passport... like next time I'm in Hong Kong I want my personal info shooting out into the stratosphere for little RFID readers to sniff up.  No thanks!  ;^)]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Chris Smith]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Oct 23rd 2006 10:05PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Researchers hack RFID credit cards. Big surprise.]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2006/10/23/researchers-hack-rfid-credit-cards-big-surprise/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2006/10/23/researchers-hack-rfid-credit-cards-big-surprise/</guid><description><![CDATA[remember when the general public found out about freaking and that you could buy that little tone dialer and crystal at radio shack? well, i assume that since credit card fraud is already a pretty hefty problem, it'd be only a matter of time before the methods of doing this along with easily acquired portable readers would be out. go to the airport, a guy with a reader in a bag bumps into you and gets your passport info. a guy bumps into you with a reader in his back pocket and gets your credit card number. couldn't be good.<br><br>of course, nobody can resist defying the laws of common sense so that they can swipe their card in the air rather than in a slot, so i'm going rfid everything. they make rfid pants?]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[sturat]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Oct 24th 2006 1:02AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Researchers hack RFID credit cards. Big surprise.]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2006/10/23/researchers-hack-rfid-credit-cards-big-surprise/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2006/10/23/researchers-hack-rfid-credit-cards-big-surprise/</guid><description><![CDATA[Chris, you missed my argument about how most online retailers require the "security code" printed on the card in order to complete a transaction. Unless this code is stored on the chip, if I just read the chip, I don't get the code, and then I can't use the credit card number online.<br><br>Vodka: A valid point. Of course, this is easily prevented by actually checking ID against the name on the card. The same problem occured years ago when retailers would actually just take a credit card number. Then retailers implemented a policy where ID has to be checked against a physical card. In much the same way I think the retailers will implement a similar policy with regards to RFID.<br><br>To me, the only problem with RFID that wasn't a problem with magnetic strips is that now thiefs can access the stored info from a certain distance away. Every other security risk is the same as before.<br><br>I'm not in favor of RFID implementation in any personally identifiable form (I'll never have any of these cards), but I think it's going to catch on with the public at large, and thus we all shouldn't freak out because in reality it's not that much more insecure than a magnetic card.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Juaquin]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Oct 23rd 2006 11:39PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Researchers hack RFID credit cards. Big surprise.]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2006/10/23/researchers-hack-rfid-credit-cards-big-surprise/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2006/10/23/researchers-hack-rfid-credit-cards-big-surprise/</guid><description><![CDATA[PacketMonkee: these things use a thin wire coiled inside the card as an antenna (usually in a square shape). If you'd rather not have RFID, it's nothing an office hole-punch won't sort out ;) <br><br>And I'm quite sure they'll continue backwards compatibility the same way contact-chip cards still have the magnetic stripe - so as long as you're careful about where you cut the wires (don't cut the chip, don't punch through the magnetic stripe...) it should be fine - no doubt people will be posting instructions on the web before long :)]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Dan]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sep 28th 2007 7:55PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Researchers hack RFID credit cards. Big surprise.]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2006/10/23/researchers-hack-rfid-credit-cards-big-surprise/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2006/10/23/researchers-hack-rfid-credit-cards-big-surprise/</guid><description><![CDATA[I have an Amex card with the RFID chip (ExpressPay). <br><br>I don't see any advantage whatsoever with the RFID or that it could be any faster than simply swiping the magstripe on the card. Our local McDonalds has an ExpressPay reader in the same device as the magstripe reader. So how is RFID any quicker? I have to take the card out to "swipe" it past the RFID reader, where 1cm away I can just as easily, and just as quickly, swipe the magstripe.<br><br>The argument about being able to "swipe" my wallet past the reader, without having to take the card out, is equally bogus. I have two different RFID enabled credit cards, which one is used when I "swipe" my wallet?<br><br>This Amex card replaced my previous Amex card which had a smartcard chip (contact style). I recall that when that card first came out, Amex was offering smartcard readers for your computer. When I called Amex about it, their customer service folk didn't know anything about the smartcard feature, or what applications their smartcard reader worked with. Destined to failure.<br><br>After receiving this new RFID Amex card, I called to activate it, and I immediately requested the ExpressPay feature disabled. Again, the customer service folk had no idea about the RFID capabilities of the card or what the ExpressPay feature was. It took a couple of handoffs through customer service before I got to a rep that knew what ExpressPay was and that it could be disabled, so no charges from ExpressPay would be accepted. Again, destined to failure.<br>]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[rcme]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Oct 23rd 2006 10:01PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Researchers hack RFID credit cards. Big surprise.]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2006/10/23/researchers-hack-rfid-credit-cards-big-surprise/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2006/10/23/researchers-hack-rfid-credit-cards-big-surprise/</guid><description><![CDATA[Actually in Japan ('round saitamaken) we use the Suica card, and I find it VERY usefull.  Used mainly for the train/subway system, these card let me quickly walk through, because i just drag my wallet across a pad rather than trying to swipe a card through a narrow slit...]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Ryhan]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sep 28th 2007 2:11AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Researchers hack RFID credit cards. Big surprise.]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2006/10/23/researchers-hack-rfid-credit-cards-big-surprise/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2006/10/23/researchers-hack-rfid-credit-cards-big-surprise/</guid><description><![CDATA[Unfortunately there will come a day when you HAVE to have one of these cards. You will HAVE to have a personal ID card. You WILL conform.<br><br>If you don't have these cards, you can't be a part of the society that enforces their use.<br><br>It will happen. (c:]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[PacketMonkee]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Oct 24th 2006 3:51AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Researchers hack RFID credit cards. Big surprise.]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2006/10/23/researchers-hack-rfid-credit-cards-big-surprise/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2006/10/23/researchers-hack-rfid-credit-cards-big-surprise/</guid><description><![CDATA[I was just wondering why a pic of ABSA credit cards (South African Bank) is used with this story that otherwise plays out in the USA and does not have any apparent connection to SA or ABSA.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[hmmmm]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Oct 24th 2006 1:11AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Researchers hack RFID credit cards. Big surprise.]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2006/10/23/researchers-hack-rfid-credit-cards-big-surprise/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2006/10/23/researchers-hack-rfid-credit-cards-big-surprise/</guid><description><![CDATA[Stock image of credit cards?]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[RE]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sep 30th 2007 1:21PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Researchers hack RFID credit cards. Big surprise.]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2006/10/23/researchers-hack-rfid-credit-cards-big-surprise/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2006/10/23/researchers-hack-rfid-credit-cards-big-surprise/</guid><description><![CDATA[I knew that this would be a bad idea, both because it's not as secure as they want you to think (duh! nothing is ever as good as they want you to think), and the express pay is just plain dumn...  Like it's so hard to swipe your card in the reader...]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[DeaDGoD]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Oct 24th 2006 4:03AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Researchers hack RFID credit cards. Big surprise.]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2006/10/23/researchers-hack-rfid-credit-cards-big-surprise/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2006/10/23/researchers-hack-rfid-credit-cards-big-surprise/</guid><description><![CDATA[What really worries me is not so much the credit cards with RFID... what happens when they start putting RFID's in debit cards? It's relatively easy to dispute a transaction on your credit card, but when it's your debit card they're hitting, it's a whole other ballgame, 'cause that money is gone before you even get a chance to dispute it. Not to mention the fact that if they were to get your actual bank account info from the card (which I don't know if they would store that on the card or whatever), you'd be screwed, blued, and tattooed. One pass of the reader close enough to your card, even your credit card, could easily lead to a good six to twelve months of fighting to clear up the mess from someone stealing your identity. No thanks, I'll pay with cash, thank you very much.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Scorpious]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Oct 24th 2006 9:56AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Researchers hack RFID credit cards. Big surprise.]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2006/10/23/researchers-hack-rfid-credit-cards-big-surprise/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2006/10/23/researchers-hack-rfid-credit-cards-big-surprise/</guid><description><![CDATA[I love my Amex's RFID. It has a different Account number than my AMEX it's self or so when ever I use my RFID it prints a different last four on my receipt. The biggest benefit I like about the RFID is not having to sign my name.<br><br>And does RFID really transmit that far? I'd be more scared of someone actually mugging me and stealing my cc than someone stealing my # via a RFID reader.<br>]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Justin]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Oct 24th 2006 10:45AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Researchers hack RFID credit cards. Big surprise.]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2006/10/23/researchers-hack-rfid-credit-cards-big-surprise/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2006/10/23/researchers-hack-rfid-credit-cards-big-surprise/</guid><description><![CDATA[Agree.  ExpressPay offers marginal increase in convenience.  <br><br>I too am more concerned with being mugged and mauled versus some white collar crime with some guy getting a hold of my Amex credit.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[JeffM]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sep 28th 2007 2:05AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Researchers hack RFID credit cards. Big surprise.]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2006/10/23/researchers-hack-rfid-credit-cards-big-surprise/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2006/10/23/researchers-hack-rfid-credit-cards-big-surprise/</guid><description><![CDATA[At least if you are mugged, you know it, But if your info is stolen with RFID, you may not know it until your new mortgage application is turned down!!! And the steal can happen anywhere! street corner, restaurant, movies, stores, bus stop, 7-11, anywhere!!!]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Tower]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Oct 24th 2006 5:08PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Researchers hack RFID credit cards. Big surprise.]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2006/10/23/researchers-hack-rfid-credit-cards-big-surprise/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2006/10/23/researchers-hack-rfid-credit-cards-big-surprise/</guid><description><![CDATA[I know i must be wrong... PLEASE tell me I'm wrong...:<br><br>SO basically, all you have to do is read the date (encrypted or not, it doesn't matter) that the RFID chip is transmitting, put that into a new one, and swipe it past the reader?<br><br>Wow... What great security...]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Eddie]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Oct 24th 2006 7:12PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Researchers hack RFID credit cards. Big surprise.]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2006/10/23/researchers-hack-rfid-credit-cards-big-surprise/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2006/10/23/researchers-hack-rfid-credit-cards-big-surprise/</guid><description><![CDATA[My bank sent me one of these stupid cards and I didn't even want it.  I'm too lazy to ask if I can get one without PayPass since I almost never use the card anyways.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Brett]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Oct 25th 2006 12:19AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Researchers hack RFID credit cards. Big surprise.]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2006/10/23/researchers-hack-rfid-credit-cards-big-surprise/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2006/10/23/researchers-hack-rfid-credit-cards-big-surprise/</guid><description><![CDATA[Why are the pictures of the cards from ABSA (South African bank)? Doesn't this have nothing to do with South Africa? Plus, if RFID was in SA then they would encrypt it more.<br>Believe me. I've been in SA and to get into a bank you have to pass thru something like airport security and two bulletproof doors that lock magnetically. They take security very seriously.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Barton]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Dec 14th 2006 8:34AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Researchers hack RFID credit cards. Big surprise.]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2006/10/23/researchers-hack-rfid-credit-cards-big-surprise/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2006/10/23/researchers-hack-rfid-credit-cards-big-surprise/</guid><description><![CDATA[It's just a photograph of credit cards, why does it matter so much where they're from? It's not really relevant to discuss the picture if like 99% of people look at the picture and think "oh, credit cards, it's a story about credit cards" not "oh, those credit cards are from South Africa where they don't have that and it can't happen blah blah blah blah blah"]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[rp]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Dec 28th 2006 2:39PM</pubDate></item></channel></rss>
