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"Because its from Microsoft" is the same argument used to explain the success the iPod "from Apple" which is also a piece of shit music player, but that doesn't stop everyone and their sister from buying them. You could do better than either product for less money, but most people can only handle comparing two of something. For that reason, it stands a chance.]]>Nov 3rd 2006 11:08AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/11/03/microsoft-zune-player-and-software-hands-on-gallery/http://www.engadget.com/2006/11/03/microsoft-zune-player-and-software-hands-on-gallery/Nov 3rd 2006 11:12AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/11/03/microsoft-zune-player-and-software-hands-on-gallery/http://www.engadget.com/2006/11/03/microsoft-zune-player-and-software-hands-on-gallery/http://www.laptopbatteryclub.com/]]>Dec 2nd 2009 10:51PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/11/03/microsoft-zune-player-and-software-hands-on-gallery/http://www.engadget.com/2006/11/03/microsoft-zune-player-and-software-hands-on-gallery/Nov 3rd 2006 10:30AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/11/03/microsoft-zune-player-and-software-hands-on-gallery/http://www.engadget.com/2006/11/03/microsoft-zune-player-and-software-hands-on-gallery/Nov 3rd 2006 10:36AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/11/03/microsoft-zune-player-and-software-hands-on-gallery/http://www.engadget.com/2006/11/03/microsoft-zune-player-and-software-hands-on-gallery/Nov 3rd 2006 10:36AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/11/03/microsoft-zune-player-and-software-hands-on-gallery/http://www.engadget.com/2006/11/03/microsoft-zune-player-and-software-hands-on-gallery/video on it? Not to nit-pick or anything but I would think with
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is optimal for viewing video. Remember also that the Zune player
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It is designed to be a multimedia player. It would be nice if
it were slimmer in size from a thickness standpoint. I'm one of
those that also bemoans MS's wireless implementation in Zune
it's the one thing that kills it for me..]]>Nov 3rd 2006 11:16AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/11/03/microsoft-zune-player-and-software-hands-on-gallery/http://www.engadget.com/2006/11/03/microsoft-zune-player-and-software-hands-on-gallery/http://www.batteries-shop.net
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I'd love to look into a Zune but only if I'd be able to use it with my existing iPod2Car installation.

TIA.]]>Nov 3rd 2006 10:46AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/11/03/microsoft-zune-player-and-software-hands-on-gallery/http://www.engadget.com/2006/11/03/microsoft-zune-player-and-software-hands-on-gallery/Nov 3rd 2006 9:55PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/11/03/microsoft-zune-player-and-software-hands-on-gallery/http://www.engadget.com/2006/11/03/microsoft-zune-player-and-software-hands-on-gallery/
Yeah, it looks like it's in one of those "iSkin" neoprene gel cases or whatever they're made of. Those things are the quickest way to take an iPod and make it look like trailer trash. MS didn't quite take the right design cues here - those cases may be popular, but they are ugly as sin and while a lot of iPod users have them, a lot of other iPod users wouldn't be caught dead with that look.

Anyway, this thing is just too big and bulky, especially for a 30GB model. As ugly as it is and as reliant on Windows Media Player (which is probably the only jukebox software more bloated than iTunes), I really still don't see how this thing even has a snowball's chance in hell.

btw, what's up with the "Hardware Version: 2.0" on the LCD screen at the top? Did they already go through one revision that they simply junked before it even hit the market? Wouldn't they just reset the clock if that's the case?
]]>Nov 3rd 2006 10:56AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/11/03/microsoft-zune-player-and-software-hands-on-gallery/http://www.engadget.com/2006/11/03/microsoft-zune-player-and-software-hands-on-gallery/
However, I like the Zune. The screen looks really nice and it does one thing well, it makes the iPod screen look outdated.

Also, I think Microsoft didn't do what other companies fail at, scrutinizing the product and not the software. If the software works well, I would consider one. Now if I could just unlock my iTunes music.]]>Nov 3rd 2006 12:06PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/11/03/microsoft-zune-player-and-software-hands-on-gallery/http://www.engadget.com/2006/11/03/microsoft-zune-player-and-software-hands-on-gallery/
Does anyone know a good DRM hack? This business is really starting to frustrate me. Imagine if digital cameras worked the same way - all saving your pictures in a proprietary format that could only be viewed using their software. Imagine you trade your Cannon in for a newer model of a Nikon, and voila! - all your pictures are now useless. Can't believe the digital music industry is getting away with this.]]>Nov 3rd 2006 11:00AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/11/03/microsoft-zune-player-and-software-hands-on-gallery/http://www.engadget.com/2006/11/03/microsoft-zune-player-and-software-hands-on-gallery/
i.e. how many computers can you transfer the song to, how many times can you burn it to CD etc.. is it different for 'rented' or purchased music.. i've not seen any of this.. Apple DRM terms are very liberal but what about Zunes?]]>Nov 3rd 2006 12:07PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/11/03/microsoft-zune-player-and-software-hands-on-gallery/http://www.engadget.com/2006/11/03/microsoft-zune-player-and-software-hands-on-gallery/Nov 3rd 2006 1:21PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/11/03/microsoft-zune-player-and-software-hands-on-gallery/http://www.engadget.com/2006/11/03/microsoft-zune-player-and-software-hands-on-gallery/Nov 4th 2006 5:24PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/11/03/microsoft-zune-player-and-software-hands-on-gallery/http://www.engadget.com/2006/11/03/microsoft-zune-player-and-software-hands-on-gallery/Nov 4th 2006 3:04PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/11/03/microsoft-zune-player-and-software-hands-on-gallery/http://www.engadget.com/2006/11/03/microsoft-zune-player-and-software-hands-on-gallery/
I personally think this looks more promising than most wanna-be "iPod Killer" out there. Sure there are other players that have a ton of features that make them more appealing than either the iPod or the Zune, but the difference is in the feel of the product, emotional, visual and physical when it is in your possession. I think very few players have that and I would definitely like to get a zune in my hand to compare it to the competition because it looks very promising.

Of course as with most players you can be assured I would steer away from anything having to do with their music store and DRM infested tracks. I upload my own music to my DAP.]]>Nov 3rd 2006 11:07AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/11/03/microsoft-zune-player-and-software-hands-on-gallery/http://www.engadget.com/2006/11/03/microsoft-zune-player-and-software-hands-on-gallery/Nov 4th 2006 3:23AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/11/03/microsoft-zune-player-and-software-hands-on-gallery/http://www.engadget.com/2006/11/03/microsoft-zune-player-and-software-hands-on-gallery/
I think many people already know how to rip the DRM from Play for Sure and iTUNE purchases to enable these purchased songs to play on any music player as long as that file type is supported. If it isnt supported, rip the DRM off the file then recode it to something that will play on your targeted music player!]]>Nov 3rd 2006 11:12AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/11/03/microsoft-zune-player-and-software-hands-on-gallery/http://www.engadget.com/2006/11/03/microsoft-zune-player-and-software-hands-on-gallery/
Buy CD's. If an artist only has one good song, don't buy it. Maybe labels will start investing more in artists that make albums. Then again, I sometimes think people want albums to be a collection of singles, and very few great albums are made up of songs that were all destined for the radio.]]>Nov 3rd 2006 11:46PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/11/03/microsoft-zune-player-and-software-hands-on-gallery/http://www.engadget.com/2006/11/03/microsoft-zune-player-and-software-hands-on-gallery/
Sorry--as much as you might deny it, the Zune Arts site is pretty damn neat already and has lots of potential. And the regular Zune site is a whole helluva lot more appealing than Apple's. Don't worry hipsters and hipsterettes, you're still and always will be the coolest in the room though. ]]>Nov 3rd 2006 11:15AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/11/03/microsoft-zune-player-and-software-hands-on-gallery/http://www.engadget.com/2006/11/03/microsoft-zune-player-and-software-hands-on-gallery/Nov 3rd 2006 11:34AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/11/03/microsoft-zune-player-and-software-hands-on-gallery/http://www.engadget.com/2006/11/03/microsoft-zune-player-and-software-hands-on-gallery/Nov 3rd 2006 11:17AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/11/03/microsoft-zune-player-and-software-hands-on-gallery/http://www.engadget.com/2006/11/03/microsoft-zune-player-and-software-hands-on-gallery/
LOL. The Ipod guys are really touchy over other players aren't they. You would think Apple pays them or something. Anyway, looks good, has subscription music, and I'm in need for a bigger player anyway... Day one purchase for me. Gotta get two, one for the wife. And, I will get the Brown one. BTW, I don't know if I'm the only one that does this, but anytime I hear a brown/excrement remark, I immediately tag the moron who said it as an ignorant, racist.

I just don't have this deep Microsoft hate that the Ipod Lemmings have. If it looks good, I'm getting it. And, that it does. It'll go nice right alongside my 360 and flat panel in the living room.]]>Nov 3rd 2006 11:40AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/11/03/microsoft-zune-player-and-software-hands-on-gallery/http://www.engadget.com/2006/11/03/microsoft-zune-player-and-software-hands-on-gallery/Looks like someone had God-complex for breakfast. Do you need to be burped? GTFU, dude. Stop cutting your English class...it shows. If you don't like the spot, why come here in the first place? Asscrack.]]>Nov 4th 2006 3:38AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/11/03/microsoft-zune-player-and-software-hands-on-gallery/http://www.engadget.com/2006/11/03/microsoft-zune-player-and-software-hands-on-gallery/Nov 3rd 2006 11:47AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/11/03/microsoft-zune-player-and-software-hands-on-gallery/http://www.engadget.com/2006/11/03/microsoft-zune-player-and-software-hands-on-gallery/Nov 3rd 2006 11:22AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/11/03/microsoft-zune-player-and-software-hands-on-gallery/http://www.engadget.com/2006/11/03/microsoft-zune-player-and-software-hands-on-gallery/
2006: Zune. Brown.]]>Nov 3rd 2006 11:22AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/11/03/microsoft-zune-player-and-software-hands-on-gallery/http://www.engadget.com/2006/11/03/microsoft-zune-player-and-software-hands-on-gallery/
- I'm pretty sure that Apple has an unused patent for this idea that was supposedly going to be added the the Finder. In any case, it's certainly not a new idea and if you google hard enough, i'm sure you'll find out its history]]>Nov 3rd 2006 1:08PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/11/03/microsoft-zune-player-and-software-hands-on-gallery/http://www.engadget.com/2006/11/03/microsoft-zune-player-and-software-hands-on-gallery/
- I'm pretty sure that Apple has an unused patent for this idea that was supposedly going to be added the the Finder. In any case, it's certainly not a new idea and if you google hard enough, i'm sure you'll find out its history"

hey Jay Tyler,

i do remember seeing Apple's "piles" patent application... last year or the year before... a lawsuit may be in the near future for MS Zune...]]>Nov 3rd 2006 12:16PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/11/03/microsoft-zune-player-and-software-hands-on-gallery/http://www.engadget.com/2006/11/03/microsoft-zune-player-and-software-hands-on-gallery/
The best way to deDRM (you can have so much fun with a two letter pre/suffix) is to either burn them, but the audiophiles out there don't like that solution. They usually cry 'lossy', but I don't notice it at all.

The other way is to record the output from your iPod. If you have an input on your PC and some audio recording software (ala, Audacity) you can just record them through the input, but that could be mighty impractical as they will arrive with not ID tags at all.

Hope some of that has been helpfull, just reply back if you want anything else.]]>Nov 3rd 2006 11:24AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/11/03/microsoft-zune-player-and-software-hands-on-gallery/http://www.engadget.com/2006/11/03/microsoft-zune-player-and-software-hands-on-gallery/
Has anyone gone over the compatibility of the Zune player/store with a Mac?

I'm open to either player, but I hesitate on the Zune as I use a Mac and fear it being like iTunes on a PC.]]>Nov 3rd 2006 11:25AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/11/03/microsoft-zune-player-and-software-hands-on-gallery/http://www.engadget.com/2006/11/03/microsoft-zune-player-and-software-hands-on-gallery/Nov 3rd 2006 11:31AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/11/03/microsoft-zune-player-and-software-hands-on-gallery/http://www.engadget.com/2006/11/03/microsoft-zune-player-and-software-hands-on-gallery/
Engadget, thanks for posting all the pictures.

- Kiteless
2Ghz MacBook - 5.0Gen iPod
AMD 64bit Tower.]]>Nov 3rd 2006 11:35AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/11/03/microsoft-zune-player-and-software-hands-on-gallery/http://www.engadget.com/2006/11/03/microsoft-zune-player-and-software-hands-on-gallery/
Yeah I know what the compatibility is like. There won't be any. Which means I won't be buying since I have a Mac.]]>Nov 3rd 2006 11:36AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/11/03/microsoft-zune-player-and-software-hands-on-gallery/http://www.engadget.com/2006/11/03/microsoft-zune-player-and-software-hands-on-gallery/Nov 3rd 2006 11:42AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/11/03/microsoft-zune-player-and-software-hands-on-gallery/http://www.engadget.com/2006/11/03/microsoft-zune-player-and-software-hands-on-gallery/
if the satellite providers were smart they would just create an iPod add-on that would let you pipe satellite radio into an iPod... if Apple was smart they would assist the satellite providers all they can... just to satisfy anyone who was so inclined.]]>Nov 3rd 2006 12:24PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/11/03/microsoft-zune-player-and-software-hands-on-gallery/http://www.engadget.com/2006/11/03/microsoft-zune-player-and-software-hands-on-gallery/pls click http://www.embatteries.com
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i do love it's look, the entire marketing campaign has been visually brilliant and countered the clean, almost sterile ipod with this rugged urban look that has been awesome.

i also think the interface is going to be far superior.]]>Nov 3rd 2006 11:53AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/11/03/microsoft-zune-player-and-software-hands-on-gallery/http://www.engadget.com/2006/11/03/microsoft-zune-player-and-software-hands-on-gallery/
Too bad though that I wouldn't consider it because: 1.) a bit too big, 2.) It would be a pain in the ass to have to convert all of my lossless music over to work with the Zune, 3.) I'm happy with my 5G iPod.

So is Microsoft a little bit too late to join the party? Will they succeed with the Zune? They may still get some of my hard-earned cash if they release a competitor for the nano with 8gb or even 10gb. I have considered buying a Meizu M6 but I'm not too sure. I need a small DAP for workouts and also for when I don't want to carry my 5G but I'm not too convinced with the nano at this time. Has any of you used the Meizu M6 and how do you like it?]]>Nov 3rd 2006 11:56AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/11/03/microsoft-zune-player-and-software-hands-on-gallery/http://www.engadget.com/2006/11/03/microsoft-zune-player-and-software-hands-on-gallery/
The iPod has had years of development and refining, I hardly want to start all over with that brick of a ZUNE.

Also the iTunes music store has audio books, TV shows, movies, a huge collection of free podcast... come on its not even a contest.

Its just Microsoft recycling the Gigabeat S player and branding it as their own.

If Microsoft was serious about going up against the iPod they would have done it right and started from the ground up just like Apple did 5 years ago. Then we would have something to talk about, instead we are trying to give credit to Microsoft for rebranding someone elses MP3 player and recycling their failed URGE/PlayForSure music software.

lame

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