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That said, I don't think any third party can get into the financial aspects of any deals Sony have with suppliers. It's all speculation. ]]>Nov 16th 2006 5:50PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/11/16/sony-losing-mad-loot-on-each-ps3/http://www.engadget.com/2006/11/16/sony-losing-mad-loot-on-each-ps3/Nov 16th 2006 5:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/11/16/sony-losing-mad-loot-on-each-ps3/http://www.engadget.com/2006/11/16/sony-losing-mad-loot-on-each-ps3/http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C81MrdLG4Is
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Either way, MS seems to be in a pretty good position (as does Nintendo) to actually make money this generation. It seems Sony will have a hard time making up that deficit without dominating like they did last gen (still possible but seems unlikely).]]>Nov 16th 2006 5:39PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/11/16/sony-losing-mad-loot-on-each-ps3/http://www.engadget.com/2006/11/16/sony-losing-mad-loot-on-each-ps3/Nov 16th 2006 5:10PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/11/16/sony-losing-mad-loot-on-each-ps3/http://www.engadget.com/2006/11/16/sony-losing-mad-loot-on-each-ps3/Nov 16th 2006 6:50PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/11/16/sony-losing-mad-loot-on-each-ps3/http://www.engadget.com/2006/11/16/sony-losing-mad-loot-on-each-ps3/Nov 16th 2006 5:18PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/11/16/sony-losing-mad-loot-on-each-ps3/http://www.engadget.com/2006/11/16/sony-losing-mad-loot-on-each-ps3/Nov 18th 2006 4:23AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/11/16/sony-losing-mad-loot-on-each-ps3/http://www.engadget.com/2006/11/16/sony-losing-mad-loot-on-each-ps3/Nov 16th 2006 5:19PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/11/16/sony-losing-mad-loot-on-each-ps3/http://www.engadget.com/2006/11/16/sony-losing-mad-loot-on-each-ps3/
I'll give you the benefit of the doubt that you were kidding.]]>Nov 16th 2006 7:27PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/11/16/sony-losing-mad-loot-on-each-ps3/http://www.engadget.com/2006/11/16/sony-losing-mad-loot-on-each-ps3/Dec 12th 2006 4:35PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/11/16/sony-losing-mad-loot-on-each-ps3/http://www.engadget.com/2006/11/16/sony-losing-mad-loot-on-each-ps3/http://www.batteries-shop.net
if you want to buy chinese tea,please click here
http://www.topbatteries.co.uk]]>May 13th 2010 10:48PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/11/16/sony-losing-mad-loot-on-each-ps3/http://www.engadget.com/2006/11/16/sony-losing-mad-loot-on-each-ps3/20GB SATA Hard Drive Seagate $43.00

I doubt Sony is paying retail for overstock, unmarketable 20GB SATA HDs.
http://froogle.google.com/froogle?hl=en&q=20GB%20SATA%20Hard%20Drive&btnG=Google+Search&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wf

I say that's a faulty analysis.]]>Nov 16th 2006 5:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/11/16/sony-losing-mad-loot-on-each-ps3/http://www.engadget.com/2006/11/16/sony-losing-mad-loot-on-each-ps3/Nov 16th 2006 5:29PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/11/16/sony-losing-mad-loot-on-each-ps3/http://www.engadget.com/2006/11/16/sony-losing-mad-loot-on-each-ps3/
Nintendo shows love for the consumer by making a console that costs $250 instead of $600 regardless of how much profit they make. Selling at a loss has nothing to do with Sony caring about the consumer, it has to do with them knowing they could never sell an $850 system and maintain market share.]]>Nov 16th 2006 5:34PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/11/16/sony-losing-mad-loot-on-each-ps3/http://www.engadget.com/2006/11/16/sony-losing-mad-loot-on-each-ps3/
Yeah, me either.

I can't wait for it to launch, and the sell for thousands, and then for the hype to die off, so engadget can report on the important things, like USB thumb drives, and gadgets for Korea that are useless. ]]>Nov 16th 2006 5:39PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/11/16/sony-losing-mad-loot-on-each-ps3/http://www.engadget.com/2006/11/16/sony-losing-mad-loot-on-each-ps3/Nov 16th 2006 5:47PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/11/16/sony-losing-mad-loot-on-each-ps3/http://www.engadget.com/2006/11/16/sony-losing-mad-loot-on-each-ps3/Nov 17th 2006 11:09AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/11/16/sony-losing-mad-loot-on-each-ps3/http://www.engadget.com/2006/11/16/sony-losing-mad-loot-on-each-ps3/Nov 16th 2006 5:53PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/11/16/sony-losing-mad-loot-on-each-ps3/http://www.engadget.com/2006/11/16/sony-losing-mad-loot-on-each-ps3/
If this is a BOM cost the real yielded cost will be higher. Some of the ammounts seem a bit high so this may be yielded cost.]]>Nov 16th 2006 6:07PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/11/16/sony-losing-mad-loot-on-each-ps3/http://www.engadget.com/2006/11/16/sony-losing-mad-loot-on-each-ps3/Nov 16th 2006 6:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/11/16/sony-losing-mad-loot-on-each-ps3/http://www.engadget.com/2006/11/16/sony-losing-mad-loot-on-each-ps3/
Sure, a new Apple rumor every 5 minutes and sushi shaped USB flash drives.]]>Nov 16th 2006 6:13PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/11/16/sony-losing-mad-loot-on-each-ps3/http://www.engadget.com/2006/11/16/sony-losing-mad-loot-on-each-ps3/Nov 16th 2006 6:14PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/11/16/sony-losing-mad-loot-on-each-ps3/http://www.engadget.com/2006/11/16/sony-losing-mad-loot-on-each-ps3/
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If they charged that much, a) you wouldn't have retards freezing their asses off in front of Best Buy for a week; b) Ebay wouldn't be in the position of trying to keep its customers from spending two grand on somebody's preorder that *might* get them a PS3 before Christmas; c) the whole damn blogosphere wouldn't waste 6 out of every 10 articles on "Will they? Won't they?" horseshit. They could price each succesive shipment $100 lower until it reaches the break-even point, turn a profit, and still sell them as fast as they can make them for at least 6 months. The current system is pretty much the same as playing the lottery -- I wonder if Amazon's web servers actually caught fire during the 2.5 minutes they had PS3s in stock? -- but it doesn't have to be.]]>Nov 16th 2006 6:27PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/11/16/sony-losing-mad-loot-on-each-ps3/http://www.engadget.com/2006/11/16/sony-losing-mad-loot-on-each-ps3/Nov 18th 2006 12:40AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/11/16/sony-losing-mad-loot-on-each-ps3/http://www.engadget.com/2006/11/16/sony-losing-mad-loot-on-each-ps3/Nov 16th 2006 7:42PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/11/16/sony-losing-mad-loot-on-each-ps3/http://www.engadget.com/2006/11/16/sony-losing-mad-loot-on-each-ps3/? doesnt make sense if
it is between 200-300 bucks they lose per sale of ps3
i dont think this makes sense.
some people can will think oh sony is making profit in their accessories and shyt but guess what not the average gamer at least not most people will spend 300 bucks on accessoires this is totally false.
if sony is losing money it is not in this range i doubt they even lose anything.
they prolly get huge discounts for buying their equipment in bulk first off, it doesnt make sense to sell something and lose money, sony is not that dumb(atleast i hope)
from the looks of it I feel that the PS 3 will be a make or break of sony,look at the whole battery scandals, look at their marketshare of tvs and such it has gone down in the past couple of years this is a huge gamble for them
i do not play consoles much i am a pc person and will stay one, cause at the end of the day all these new consoles are derived from pc"s thats why Pc's will alaways be better regardless of specs and such
i fully support the Wii and xbox 360 the ps3 itself is a victim of those who make it. ]]>Nov 18th 2006 12:03AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/11/16/sony-losing-mad-loot-on-each-ps3/http://www.engadget.com/2006/11/16/sony-losing-mad-loot-on-each-ps3/
1. Installed rootkits on peoples computers that resulted in damage to peoples computers.
2. Actually STOLE code to make a rootkit that protected their own property
3. Told customers they shouldn't care because they don't even know what a root kit is.
4. Patented technology so they could bind games to consoles, so that if implimented, wouldn't let people lend their games. (they haven't used it yet.. but what a bitch ass thing to patent.)
5. Had an ad campaign with a white person assaulting a black person with the slogan "White is coming."
6. Released useless firmware upgrade after firmware upgrade for the psp, that added no functions, and took away some.
7. Forced those upgrades.
8. Cut europe and austrailia from the ps3 launch and told them that "they don't mind waiting"
9. Killed small import companys who's only crime was MAKING SONY MONEY, by SELLING SONY PRODUCTS, to those european and australlian fanboys that "Didn't mind waiting" for games.
10. Pushed back their reader product a dozen times, and when it finally came out there was a whopping under 500 actual units ready for launch.
11. Took the rumble off of the ps3 controllers to "Save fans money" thank you for saving me 5 bucks on a 600 dollar console.

not a week go's by that i don't hear something retarded come out of a sony execs mouth. The company is run by asshats that hate their customers.
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Though I don't see the cost of the XDR memory coming down by much within the first 18 months, EoS should help to lower per unit cost of producing the RSX and CELL BE chips. IBM/SONY may also move to smaller feature size for said chips, which will drastically reduce cost.

I don't see the PS3 being a money loser for very long.]]>Nov 16th 2006 8:12PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/11/16/sony-losing-mad-loot-on-each-ps3/http://www.engadget.com/2006/11/16/sony-losing-mad-loot-on-each-ps3/
I used to live there, boy am I glad I got out of that S***hole.

-Bob
Go Hokies, GOBBLE GOBBLE]]>Nov 16th 2006 8:53PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/11/16/sony-losing-mad-loot-on-each-ps3/http://www.engadget.com/2006/11/16/sony-losing-mad-loot-on-each-ps3/ That is hilarious. Just think about it. Nintendo could literally GIVE THE WII CONSOLE AWAY FOR FREE and still have a competative advantage over the PS3.

That's either very gutsy, or just plain insane on Sony's part.

Time will tell...]]>Nov 16th 2006 10:31PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/11/16/sony-losing-mad-loot-on-each-ps3/http://www.engadget.com/2006/11/16/sony-losing-mad-loot-on-each-ps3/Nov 17th 2006 2:36AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/11/16/sony-losing-mad-loot-on-each-ps3/http://www.engadget.com/2006/11/16/sony-losing-mad-loot-on-each-ps3/
They choked, they got scared by xbox, overreached and blew it. ]]>Nov 17th 2006 3:55AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/11/16/sony-losing-mad-loot-on-each-ps3/http://www.engadget.com/2006/11/16/sony-losing-mad-loot-on-each-ps3/
Agreed that Sony will loose $x per console till it reaches threshold level in mass production post which the manufacturing cost will start falling.

But till then, i am sure Sony will compensate loss through profit generated by Software (PS3 games).

A person would buy atleast 2-3 games in a span of first 2-3 months.

The profit generated through same should compensate for loss.
Not to mention royalty generated by accessories certified for Sony PS3.

I am sure, every company has its route to profit all figured out :-)

Regards,

Bharat]]>Nov 17th 2006 5:39AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/11/16/sony-losing-mad-loot-on-each-ps3/http://www.engadget.com/2006/11/16/sony-losing-mad-loot-on-each-ps3/Nov 17th 2006 7:07AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/11/16/sony-losing-mad-loot-on-each-ps3/http://www.engadget.com/2006/11/16/sony-losing-mad-loot-on-each-ps3/
Editors of engaged take note of this you might have the numbers wrong there.
]]>Nov 17th 2006 7:18AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/11/16/sony-losing-mad-loot-on-each-ps3/http://www.engadget.com/2006/11/16/sony-losing-mad-loot-on-each-ps3/Dec 17th 2006 8:06PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/11/16/sony-losing-mad-loot-on-each-ps3/http://www.engadget.com/2006/11/16/sony-losing-mad-loot-on-each-ps3/They want Blu-ray, PSP integration & Cell to succeed but are doing the mistake of putting them in one (PS3) basket all at one at a high price. It's a form of gambling that is insan in business terms, no matter how many brand loyal customers you may have. I wonder how many of those (apparently) loyal fans are willing to buy an expensive machine on which software is more expensive than that of the competition. Not until some half genuis figures out a way to play backups, in which case Sony won't be selling those 9 games/unit needed to breakeven.
Traders out there already expect Sony Shares to fall.]]>Jan 5th 2007 7:43AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/11/16/sony-losing-mad-loot-on-each-ps3/http://www.engadget.com/2006/11/16/sony-losing-mad-loot-on-each-ps3/
reap the awards eventually from the massive profits they make on their games and software. They also need the ps3 out there in everyhome, thats when the real game begins.]]>Jul 4th 2007 10:30AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/11/16/sony-losing-mad-loot-on-each-ps3/http://www.engadget.com/2006/11/16/sony-losing-mad-loot-on-each-ps3/
Right now as of OCT of 2007 every 20gb PS3 is losing $306.85 per unit

Hardware cost: $808.85

Selling price: $499.00

Heavenly Sword is considered another loss by the gaming board, although it received fair reviews it was bashed by both gamers and critics alike for being way too short, some gamers have even went so far as to trade in the PS3 because of it.

Developers of today and not the same we had 20 years ago, there able to pick and choose where to go, many have already stated going multi-platform (Square-Enix for example).

So when the smoke clears, what do you have? an overpriced piece of hardware losing money faster than it can bring it in.

]]>Oct 18th 2007 12:20AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/11/16/sony-losing-mad-loot-on-each-ps3/http://www.engadget.com/2006/11/16/sony-losing-mad-loot-on-each-ps3/
Give it another year and we'll see what's up.]]>Jan 8th 2008 2:52PM