http://www.engadget.com/2006/11/27/human-wifi-sniffer-is-every-geeks-dream-woman/ Engadget Comments for Human WiFi sniffer is every geek's dream woman http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2006/11/27/human-wifi-sniffer-is-every-geeks-dream-woman/http://www.engadget.com/2006/11/27/human-wifi-sniffer-is-every-geeks-dream-woman/Nov 27th 2006 8:20PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/11/27/human-wifi-sniffer-is-every-geeks-dream-woman/http://www.engadget.com/2006/11/27/human-wifi-sniffer-is-every-geeks-dream-woman/Sep 7th 2008 11:29AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/11/27/human-wifi-sniffer-is-every-geeks-dream-woman/http://www.engadget.com/2006/11/27/human-wifi-sniffer-is-every-geeks-dream-woman/Nov 27th 2006 6:28PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/11/27/human-wifi-sniffer-is-every-geeks-dream-woman/http://www.engadget.com/2006/11/27/human-wifi-sniffer-is-every-geeks-dream-woman/Nov 27th 2006 6:29PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/11/27/human-wifi-sniffer-is-every-geeks-dream-woman/http://www.engadget.com/2006/11/27/human-wifi-sniffer-is-every-geeks-dream-woman/Nov 27th 2006 6:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/11/27/human-wifi-sniffer-is-every-geeks-dream-woman/http://www.engadget.com/2006/11/27/human-wifi-sniffer-is-every-geeks-dream-woman/What's most depressing is how much money she spent - a good Netgear modem/router shouldn't cost more than about £80, and most shops do a router and dongle bundle.

Plus it's featured on thisislondon.co.uk. Living in the real London, I can tell you thisislondon isn't London. The London Lite is theeee worst freesheet ever. [That they're all crap is another matter!] Pah. Rant over.]]>Nov 27th 2006 6:39PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/11/27/human-wifi-sniffer-is-every-geeks-dream-woman/http://www.engadget.com/2006/11/27/human-wifi-sniffer-is-every-geeks-dream-woman/Nov 28th 2006 5:33AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/11/27/human-wifi-sniffer-is-every-geeks-dream-woman/http://www.engadget.com/2006/11/27/human-wifi-sniffer-is-every-geeks-dream-woman/she can instantly tell whether it is installed in a particular room
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This tells me she is faking it. She seems to think that if she wals outside of a room, with a router, then WiFi stops. Well it doesn't!]]>Nov 27th 2006 6:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/11/27/human-wifi-sniffer-is-every-geeks-dream-woman/http://www.engadget.com/2006/11/27/human-wifi-sniffer-is-every-geeks-dream-woman/Nov 27th 2006 8:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/11/27/human-wifi-sniffer-is-every-geeks-dream-woman/http://www.engadget.com/2006/11/27/human-wifi-sniffer-is-every-geeks-dream-woman/
Then we put her in a mental hospital for a few weeks. When she was done with her treatment and left the hospital, TVs no longer affected her. It's amazing what the mind can do to the body.

In conclusion, yes... it almost definitely is hypochondria.]]>Nov 27th 2006 6:46PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/11/27/human-wifi-sniffer-is-every-geeks-dream-woman/http://www.engadget.com/2006/11/27/human-wifi-sniffer-is-every-geeks-dream-woman/Jul 21st 2007 3:00PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/11/27/human-wifi-sniffer-is-every-geeks-dream-woman/http://www.engadget.com/2006/11/27/human-wifi-sniffer-is-every-geeks-dream-woman/]]>Nov 27th 2006 6:46PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/11/27/human-wifi-sniffer-is-every-geeks-dream-woman/http://www.engadget.com/2006/11/27/human-wifi-sniffer-is-every-geeks-dream-woman/
It's in your mind!]]>Nov 28th 2006 4:04AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/11/27/human-wifi-sniffer-is-every-geeks-dream-woman/http://www.engadget.com/2006/11/27/human-wifi-sniffer-is-every-geeks-dream-woman/1. Put the woman in a room.
2. In that room have a Cisco Aeronet with the status lights blacked out
3. In another room have a scientist sshed into the router.
4. Have that scientist flip a coin: heads radio is on, tails radio is off
5. Ask the woman if the wifi is on.
6. Repeat until statistically valid. ]]>Nov 27th 2006 6:51PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/11/27/human-wifi-sniffer-is-every-geeks-dream-woman/http://www.engadget.com/2006/11/27/human-wifi-sniffer-is-every-geeks-dream-woman/
I get sick in Wal Mart, and I think they have some radio-wave-brain-overstimulation machine that makes one slower and interested in crappy things. I've felt exhausted from various types of wireless radiation shit, and anyone can confirm this- even if not that sensitive to such things- by going to a secluded area (mountain, beach), free from the radio wave density of the city. One feels free and relaxed! Being in the city stresses, but a lot of people like that, too.]]>Nov 27th 2006 6:54PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/11/27/human-wifi-sniffer-is-every-geeks-dream-woman/http://www.engadget.com/2006/11/27/human-wifi-sniffer-is-every-geeks-dream-woman/Nov 28th 2006 11:12AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/11/27/human-wifi-sniffer-is-every-geeks-dream-woman/http://www.engadget.com/2006/11/27/human-wifi-sniffer-is-every-geeks-dream-woman/Could that be because you're away from the noise and pollution and ugliness and bad smells and annoying people?]]>Jul 21st 2007 3:05PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/11/27/human-wifi-sniffer-is-every-geeks-dream-woman/http://www.engadget.com/2006/11/27/human-wifi-sniffer-is-every-geeks-dream-woman/
That's cuz...
RADIO-WAVE-BRAIN-OVERSTIMULATION MIND CONTROL!!!]]>Nov 27th 2006 6:58PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/11/27/human-wifi-sniffer-is-every-geeks-dream-woman/http://www.engadget.com/2006/11/27/human-wifi-sniffer-is-every-geeks-dream-woman/Nov 27th 2006 7:07PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/11/27/human-wifi-sniffer-is-every-geeks-dream-woman/http://www.engadget.com/2006/11/27/human-wifi-sniffer-is-every-geeks-dream-woman/Nov 27th 2006 8:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/11/27/human-wifi-sniffer-is-every-geeks-dream-woman/http://www.engadget.com/2006/11/27/human-wifi-sniffer-is-every-geeks-dream-woman/Nov 27th 2006 7:19PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/11/27/human-wifi-sniffer-is-every-geeks-dream-woman/http://www.engadget.com/2006/11/27/human-wifi-sniffer-is-every-geeks-dream-woman/
However this woman saying the wifi makes her head hurt...

Does she get headaches walking past mobile phone antenae? does she have trouble being near high voltage power cables? in the same room as her microwave when it's on? I very much doubt it.

Wifi routers and mobile phones emmit pitiful amounts of EM. If you're across the room I imagine you're talking milli-watts, so little energy it would be impossible to make any difference on a short term basis.]]>Nov 28th 2006 5:51AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/11/27/human-wifi-sniffer-is-every-geeks-dream-woman/http://www.engadget.com/2006/11/27/human-wifi-sniffer-is-every-geeks-dream-woman/Nov 27th 2006 7:18PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/11/27/human-wifi-sniffer-is-every-geeks-dream-woman/http://www.engadget.com/2006/11/27/human-wifi-sniffer-is-every-geeks-dream-woman/Nov 27th 2006 9:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/11/27/human-wifi-sniffer-is-every-geeks-dream-woman/http://www.engadget.com/2006/11/27/human-wifi-sniffer-is-every-geeks-dream-woman/May 5th 2008 4:22PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/11/27/human-wifi-sniffer-is-every-geeks-dream-woman/http://www.engadget.com/2006/11/27/human-wifi-sniffer-is-every-geeks-dream-woman/
My point is, yeah, maybe you can "sense" certain things like a television or a microwave from the sounds they give off, but radio waves themselves? Right.]]>Nov 27th 2006 7:26PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/11/27/human-wifi-sniffer-is-every-geeks-dream-woman/http://www.engadget.com/2006/11/27/human-wifi-sniffer-is-every-geeks-dream-woman/Nov 27th 2006 7:44PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/11/27/human-wifi-sniffer-is-every-geeks-dream-woman/http://www.engadget.com/2006/11/27/human-wifi-sniffer-is-every-geeks-dream-woman/
There was actually a New York Times article about someone who wanted to market this phenomenon using cell phone rings. The kids could receive calls without their parents or teachers knowing. There is also an MP3 on the article below in case you want to try it out.

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/06/12/technology/12ring.html?ex=1307764800&en=2a80d150770df0df&ei=5090]]>Nov 27th 2006 9:45PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/11/27/human-wifi-sniffer-is-every-geeks-dream-woman/http://www.engadget.com/2006/11/27/human-wifi-sniffer-is-every-geeks-dream-woman/
Ive been able to hear TV's and other electronics being turned on for years, its not radiation but the high pitched sound of the CRT or other capacitors being charged. But being able to hear or feel LCD's is a crock.

Anybody that complains about radio waves effecting them recently should really take a look at how long we've been using radio in general... they'll find that humans have been literally bathed in them for the better part of the last century.]]>Nov 28th 2006 1:01PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/11/27/human-wifi-sniffer-is-every-geeks-dream-woman/http://www.engadget.com/2006/11/27/human-wifi-sniffer-is-every-geeks-dream-woman/Nov 28th 2006 1:28PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/11/27/human-wifi-sniffer-is-every-geeks-dream-woman/http://www.engadget.com/2006/11/27/human-wifi-sniffer-is-every-geeks-dream-woman/Nov 27th 2006 8:20PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/11/27/human-wifi-sniffer-is-every-geeks-dream-woman/http://www.engadget.com/2006/11/27/human-wifi-sniffer-is-every-geeks-dream-woman/That's more like a geek's antithesis.]]>Nov 27th 2006 7:29PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/11/27/human-wifi-sniffer-is-every-geeks-dream-woman/http://www.engadget.com/2006/11/27/human-wifi-sniffer-is-every-geeks-dream-woman/
Wifi? Wouldn't that be pretty much like "feeling" light outside the visible spectrem? I don't think thats possible (besides like high energy radiation of course). I mean with sensing TV's it's basically like hearing a really high pitched sound.]]>Nov 28th 2006 4:49PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/11/27/human-wifi-sniffer-is-every-geeks-dream-woman/http://www.engadget.com/2006/11/27/human-wifi-sniffer-is-every-geeks-dream-woman/Nov 27th 2006 7:35PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/11/27/human-wifi-sniffer-is-every-geeks-dream-woman/http://www.engadget.com/2006/11/27/human-wifi-sniffer-is-every-geeks-dream-woman/
When I first used a wireless PCMCIA card in a work laptop, I almost dropped the laptop on the floor because the effect startled me so much. Now I'm used to it and can generally ignore it, but it's definitely a real sensation.

At first no one believed it, until my coworkers and I did a little test - hide one wireless laptop in a random cube without me knowing which one, and I could find it 100% of the time be walking around until I could feel it.]]>Nov 27th 2006 7:37PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/11/27/human-wifi-sniffer-is-every-geeks-dream-woman/http://www.engadget.com/2006/11/27/human-wifi-sniffer-is-every-geeks-dream-woman/Nov 27th 2006 7:41PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/11/27/human-wifi-sniffer-is-every-geeks-dream-woman/http://www.engadget.com/2006/11/27/human-wifi-sniffer-is-every-geeks-dream-woman/Nov 27th 2006 10:55PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/11/27/human-wifi-sniffer-is-every-geeks-dream-woman/http://www.engadget.com/2006/11/27/human-wifi-sniffer-is-every-geeks-dream-woman/Nov 27th 2006 7:43PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/11/27/human-wifi-sniffer-is-every-geeks-dream-woman/http://www.engadget.com/2006/11/27/human-wifi-sniffer-is-every-geeks-dream-woman/
If this quack is so affected by radio waves, she would surely pass out from the feeling of billions of "fingers prodding her" everytime she immerses herself in sunlight. Or what about all the wiring in her house? While I've never been to her home, I think it is safe to assume that she does have electricity coursing through her walls, emitting radiation all the time...

And for anybody who says they can "feel" a TV on (or any other electronic device), are you *sure* that you just can't *hear* it on?

]]>Nov 27th 2006 7:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/11/27/human-wifi-sniffer-is-every-geeks-dream-woman/http://www.engadget.com/2006/11/27/human-wifi-sniffer-is-every-geeks-dream-woman/
This person is a hypochondriac.



]]>Nov 28th 2006 7:31AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/11/27/human-wifi-sniffer-is-every-geeks-dream-woman/http://www.engadget.com/2006/11/27/human-wifi-sniffer-is-every-geeks-dream-woman/
(to the genius who made the comment about rays of sunlight, all EM waves are not the same -- are you going to argue that x-rays aren't harmful now? they're just EM waves, after all -- people didn't used to think they were until they observed the long-term effects, by the way...)

Certain other animals have shown more pronounced responses to EM interference. Cell phone signals throw off a carrier pigeon's sense of direction, for example.

I didn't bother reading the original post. I will after writing this, and I might have something else to add. Probably not, though.
]]>Mar 28th 2007 6:54PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/11/27/human-wifi-sniffer-is-every-geeks-dream-woman/http://www.engadget.com/2006/11/27/human-wifi-sniffer-is-every-geeks-dream-woman/Nov 27th 2006 11:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/11/27/human-wifi-sniffer-is-every-geeks-dream-woman/http://www.engadget.com/2006/11/27/human-wifi-sniffer-is-every-geeks-dream-woman/Nov 27th 2006 7:50PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/11/27/human-wifi-sniffer-is-every-geeks-dream-woman/http://www.engadget.com/2006/11/27/human-wifi-sniffer-is-every-geeks-dream-woman/TVs emit a high pitched noise that younger people can usually hear but older adults cannot. The principle is used in the Mosquito teen repellent device and the cell phone ring tones that teens are starting to use.

As far as feeling wifi, I'm feeling a bit skeptical. FCC approved as safe?]]>Nov 27th 2006 7:50PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/11/27/human-wifi-sniffer-is-every-geeks-dream-woman/http://www.engadget.com/2006/11/27/human-wifi-sniffer-is-every-geeks-dream-woman/Nov 27th 2006 8:46PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/11/27/human-wifi-sniffer-is-every-geeks-dream-woman/http://www.engadget.com/2006/11/27/human-wifi-sniffer-is-every-geeks-dream-woman/Nov 27th 2006 8:05PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/11/27/human-wifi-sniffer-is-every-geeks-dream-woman/http://www.engadget.com/2006/11/27/human-wifi-sniffer-is-every-geeks-dream-woman/
"ok. I'm 19, when i was 8 or something, i started to hear weird noises... when i was at school,"

Yes...you did hear something. No it did not have anything to do with radio interference. What you heard was the beam resyncing on the TV. I can still hear it to this day with older TV's. IT's very high pitch and younger people are better at perceiving it. If you hear a sound coming from a wall block transformer or a piece of electronics with transistors in it, that could also be caused by the electronics. However, if the transformer whissles a real lot, then it might be time to get a new transformer.

And yes...certain lighting and stuff can make you feel sick....or depressed or something. It's due to the spectoral distribution and the pulsations of AC current...not because of some EM fields.

If this woman is really that sensitive, and unless she is notch-tuned to only certain wifi channels, then I would recommend she stay away from the following: cell towers, cell phones, radar guns, cordless phones, wireless video cameras, remote car alarms, garage door openers, airports, police cars, fire trucks, tv stations, video relays, wireless intercoms, stud finders, microwave ovens....and many many many other things.

Or...she could be faking it


ANd before you go and quote something like "studies show that electromagnetic radiation effects cells..." Go reading the freaking studies! There's a huge difference between owning a wifi router and putting a massive inductor on somebody's head and sending several kilowatts through it.]]>Nov 27th 2006 8:48PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/11/27/human-wifi-sniffer-is-every-geeks-dream-woman/http://www.engadget.com/2006/11/27/human-wifi-sniffer-is-every-geeks-dream-woman/In this digital era, if you can't adapt to EM waves, you are eliminated :)]]>Nov 27th 2006 8:48PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/11/27/human-wifi-sniffer-is-every-geeks-dream-woman/http://www.engadget.com/2006/11/27/human-wifi-sniffer-is-every-geeks-dream-woman/
There have been many many many studies. No well-controlled, reviewed study has ever found conclusive evidence of any health effects from low power microwave devices. EVER. Some poorly studies have shown some non-conclusive suspect stuff. But of all the studies done..NO real evidence..... EVER

Case closed. End of story. It's over. Stop beating the dead horse..it's starting to decompose. OVER


http://www.hps.org/publicinformation/ate/faqs/radiofrequencyqa.html


Excellent article:
http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg17924125.400-its-good-to-talk.html

Repost of full article:
http://www.cdc.gov/niosh/pgms/worknotify/heatSealerRF.html]]>Nov 27th 2006 8:55PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/11/27/human-wifi-sniffer-is-every-geeks-dream-woman/http://www.engadget.com/2006/11/27/human-wifi-sniffer-is-every-geeks-dream-woman/
And about any health concerns, psychology is a huge health concern, if there are in fact no physical health concerns. If my sunglasses pose no physical health concern but have a feather sticking out of it that constantly tickles my eyelids, that is a serious psychological health concern, if I wear those glasses all day. Likewise, if the wireless networks are poking me everywhere I go, that would be a serious psychological health concern.]]>Nov 27th 2006 9:13PM