http://www.engadget.com/2006/12/04/bmw-hydrogen-7-is-unveiled-as-first-for-luxury-performance-space/ Engadget Comments for BMW Hydrogen 7 is unveiled as first for luxury performance space http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2006/12/04/bmw-hydrogen-7-is-unveiled-as-first-for-luxury-performance-space/http://www.engadget.com/2006/12/04/bmw-hydrogen-7-is-unveiled-as-first-for-luxury-performance-space/Dec 4th 2006 1:19PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/12/04/bmw-hydrogen-7-is-unveiled-as-first-for-luxury-performance-space/http://www.engadget.com/2006/12/04/bmw-hydrogen-7-is-unveiled-as-first-for-luxury-performance-space/Dec 4th 2006 4:21PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/12/04/bmw-hydrogen-7-is-unveiled-as-first-for-luxury-performance-space/http://www.engadget.com/2006/12/04/bmw-hydrogen-7-is-unveiled-as-first-for-luxury-performance-space/
So is that like.. really automatic?]]>Dec 4th 2006 12:41PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/12/04/bmw-hydrogen-7-is-unveiled-as-first-for-luxury-performance-space/http://www.engadget.com/2006/12/04/bmw-hydrogen-7-is-unveiled-as-first-for-luxury-performance-space/
to generate one kilogram of liquid hydrogen, there's a lot of energy needed to either compress it or to cool it to -250-ish degrees centigrade. And as the BMW only uses the hydrogen like normal gasoline, the added cost in cooling down/compressing the hydrogen results in an effectiv energy consumption of about 25-30 L/100km normal gasoline.

So this all so lovely enviromental friendly car with its "green" engine is in fact worse than every big V8 hemi in american muscle cars.]]>Dec 4th 2006 12:47PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/12/04/bmw-hydrogen-7-is-unveiled-as-first-for-luxury-performance-space/http://www.engadget.com/2006/12/04/bmw-hydrogen-7-is-unveiled-as-first-for-luxury-performance-space/
What's great about this BMW is not that it is *CURRENTLY* more green (which it obviously isn't). What's great is that it paves the way for the H2 economy. It generates demand for future development. More demand equates to more money for better technology in the future. And the technology in the future WILL be MUCH more green than the greenest alternatives today.

Furthermore, H2 can be produced at a single point so emissions can be controlled more easily. It's far more difficult to control emissions on the vehicle.

We can't get to a greener H2 economy without a difficult transitional stage.]]>Dec 4th 2006 1:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/12/04/bmw-hydrogen-7-is-unveiled-as-first-for-luxury-performance-space/http://www.engadget.com/2006/12/04/bmw-hydrogen-7-is-unveiled-as-first-for-luxury-performance-space/Dec 4th 2006 1:06PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/12/04/bmw-hydrogen-7-is-unveiled-as-first-for-luxury-performance-space/http://www.engadget.com/2006/12/04/bmw-hydrogen-7-is-unveiled-as-first-for-luxury-performance-space/
"Hydrogen. What a waste. Just another way for corporations to control your fuel. Stick with electric and electric hybrids that you can plug in at home."

If not, well, I won't explain why it's so damn funny. Anyone with half a brain will know why.

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A big advantage of central hydrogen production over plug-in hybreds is that it is not necessary to distribute the (considerable) power for the vehicle fleet via the already-strained electrical grid. Instead, the power is generated close to where the hydrogen is generated, eliminating the electrical transmission losses and demand on the power grid.

It would be nice to have a hybred vehicle with sufficent battery capacity for short trips (30 miles or so)and a hydrogen fuel cell for longer trips. This would allow many people to use the vehicle as a plug-in hybred for commuting without requiring them to have a hydrogen fuel station nearby.]]>Dec 4th 2006 3:22PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/12/04/bmw-hydrogen-7-is-unveiled-as-first-for-luxury-performance-space/http://www.engadget.com/2006/12/04/bmw-hydrogen-7-is-unveiled-as-first-for-luxury-performance-space/
Hydrogen is practically free, it's the most basic element ffs, and what do you think the compressed hydrogen will cost? How much do you think BMW or the producer, which is probably in co-operation with BMW, will draw money with it?
"It's okay, it's more 'green', there's nothing wrong with few extra bucks."
The reason why we don't have any cars running on tapwater is that extracting hydrogen and compressing it takes more energy than it gives.

Even hybrids fail as concepts, although I give credit for the good intentions. We will not make any progress with making half-ass concepts that draw even more energy. I'm a bit ashamed that this an Europan car company, I thought we'd had better ideas (than Hummer O2).

If I'm wrong at any point, please correct me.]]>Dec 5th 2006 2:27AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/12/04/bmw-hydrogen-7-is-unveiled-as-first-for-luxury-performance-space/http://www.engadget.com/2006/12/04/bmw-hydrogen-7-is-unveiled-as-first-for-luxury-performance-space/Dec 9th 2006 8:57PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/12/04/bmw-hydrogen-7-is-unveiled-as-first-for-luxury-performance-space/http://www.engadget.com/2006/12/04/bmw-hydrogen-7-is-unveiled-as-first-for-luxury-performance-space/
http://www.clubofpioneers.com]]>Dec 20th 2006 9:11AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/12/04/bmw-hydrogen-7-is-unveiled-as-first-for-luxury-performance-space/http://www.engadget.com/2006/12/04/bmw-hydrogen-7-is-unveiled-as-first-for-luxury-performance-space/
The guys from xolo.tv: http://watchme.xolo.tv/index.php?tag=clubofpioneers

and Ben Goldhirsch (from Goodmagazine): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RD02CpflDA

and it really can switch from hydrogen to gasoline at the push of a button... perfect for introducing the H2 infrastructure.]]>Jan 30th 2007 6:30AM