http://www.engadget.com/2006/12/09/german-legislation-would-jail-fps-gamers/ Engadget Comments for German legislation would jail FPS gamers http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2006/12/09/german-legislation-would-jail-fps-gamers/http://www.engadget.com/2006/12/09/german-legislation-would-jail-fps-gamers/Dec 9th 2006 5:48AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/12/09/german-legislation-would-jail-fps-gamers/http://www.engadget.com/2006/12/09/german-legislation-would-jail-fps-gamers/Dec 9th 2006 6:00AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/12/09/german-legislation-would-jail-fps-gamers/http://www.engadget.com/2006/12/09/german-legislation-would-jail-fps-gamers/Dec 9th 2006 6:19AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/12/09/german-legislation-would-jail-fps-gamers/http://www.engadget.com/2006/12/09/german-legislation-would-jail-fps-gamers/
I Love it.]]>Dec 9th 2006 1:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/12/09/german-legislation-would-jail-fps-gamers/http://www.engadget.com/2006/12/09/german-legislation-would-jail-fps-gamers/Dec 10th 2006 2:44PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/12/09/german-legislation-would-jail-fps-gamers/http://www.engadget.com/2006/12/09/german-legislation-would-jail-fps-gamers/Im not a friend of violent games, but this is rediculous.


Ps: German Government Sux. b.t.w I'm a German]]>Dec 9th 2006 6:38AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/12/09/german-legislation-would-jail-fps-gamers/http://www.engadget.com/2006/12/09/german-legislation-would-jail-fps-gamers/
I can see it now, underground illegal LAN party and the german equivalent to the SWAT comes busting in to cart off pimped up PCs.

Oh the horrors...]]>Dec 9th 2006 6:40AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/12/09/german-legislation-would-jail-fps-gamers/http://www.engadget.com/2006/12/09/german-legislation-would-jail-fps-gamers/CS has these on the surface, so you know what you're dealing with..

btw I just stopped playing CS after 6 years..
trying to get a life.. anyone?! :D]]>Dec 9th 2006 6:58AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/12/09/german-legislation-would-jail-fps-gamers/http://www.engadget.com/2006/12/09/german-legislation-would-jail-fps-gamers/Dec 9th 2006 7:15AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/12/09/german-legislation-would-jail-fps-gamers/http://www.engadget.com/2006/12/09/german-legislation-would-jail-fps-gamers/Dec 9th 2006 8:38AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/12/09/german-legislation-would-jail-fps-gamers/http://www.engadget.com/2006/12/09/german-legislation-would-jail-fps-gamers/Dec 9th 2006 7:45AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/12/09/german-legislation-would-jail-fps-gamers/http://www.engadget.com/2006/12/09/german-legislation-would-jail-fps-gamers/
This is incredibly unfortunate, because there is absolutely no link between violence, especially in the United States, and violent video games. As Gamerevolution had stated in their famous article, the actual number of "violent crimes" has actually decreased over the years.



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Also, political parties are much better protected against being prohibited than other organisations whose actions are to abolish democracy. This is to make sure that the governing parties can't simply forbid unwelcome competitors.

concerning the computer games: I don't believe they can forbid FPS games. Of course they can try. But our constitution clearly states "Censorship is not to be done." There are exceptions in REALLY extreme cases, but I don't see how they want to try to justify that computer games are being treated differently from books, films where people being killed (also violently) is happening all the time.

I hope they will instead go the more rational way that they persued in the past: Make the laws to protect the youth/children against this kind of material more strict. Actually, children can still buy violent game - they just have to search for a shop where the controls are lax. There are a lot of ways to improve this, while perserving the rights of grown up people.]]>Dec 9th 2006 9:01AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/12/09/german-legislation-would-jail-fps-gamers/http://www.engadget.com/2006/12/09/german-legislation-would-jail-fps-gamers/Dec 10th 2006 10:22AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/12/09/german-legislation-would-jail-fps-gamers/http://www.engadget.com/2006/12/09/german-legislation-would-jail-fps-gamers/
maybe V for Vendetta should have been set in futuristic Germany.]]>Dec 9th 2006 8:14AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/12/09/german-legislation-would-jail-fps-gamers/http://www.engadget.com/2006/12/09/german-legislation-would-jail-fps-gamers/Dec 9th 2006 8:16AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/12/09/german-legislation-would-jail-fps-gamers/http://www.engadget.com/2006/12/09/german-legislation-would-jail-fps-gamers/
That's hilarious.

Wonder if this bans duckhunt]]>Dec 9th 2006 7:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/12/09/german-legislation-would-jail-fps-gamers/http://www.engadget.com/2006/12/09/german-legislation-would-jail-fps-gamers/http://www.out-law.com/page-5009

Basically, the operator was trying to get the game allowed on free movement of goods and free provision of services legislation, but the ECJ allowed derogation from articles 28/29, 49/50 on grounds of public policy: the German constitution provides for "protection of human dignity", and apparently laser-quest doesn't fall in line with that.

I knew studying European Law would come in useful.]]>Dec 9th 2006 8:16AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/12/09/german-legislation-would-jail-fps-gamers/http://www.engadget.com/2006/12/09/german-legislation-would-jail-fps-gamers/
Now I know why he did this, he was talking crap to me on Xfire and said that he wanted to vs me in CS:S, so I said shure, then kicked his ass in it, and he went into a fit and killed himself, but he sucks so bad he shot 11 other people before actually getting himself.

I wonder if they're really doing this because they're tired of seeing germans killing Germans, in other words, germans playing Call of duty!]]>Dec 9th 2006 8:49AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/12/09/german-legislation-would-jail-fps-gamers/http://www.engadget.com/2006/12/09/german-legislation-would-jail-fps-gamers/Dec 10th 2006 7:59PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/12/09/german-legislation-would-jail-fps-gamers/http://www.engadget.com/2006/12/09/german-legislation-would-jail-fps-gamers/
sorry, missed the punchline.

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The whole thing is incredibly annoying. First, the usual politicians (all prime examples of the reflected human *cough*) start screaming murder. These people have never in their life played CS. Then the media is all over it and you have to endure their both endless and mindless repetitions of the eversame nonsense. Then, due to all the attention, the next round of low-lifes feels duly called upon to pull even more crap, and once caught they too blame the games. Back in the day, if you wanted to plead for unsoundness of mind, you'd say "the voices made me do it". Not it's "the games made me do it". It is nauseating.

Here in Germany, even adults sometimes have to jump through hoops in order to aquire adult content, which can be a real PITA if you are into movies. Yet it is accepted on the grounds that we do not wish little Anna or Peter to see The Texas Chain Saw Massacre on their own. It is established though that people here by the age of 18 can decide for themselves. We will not have that taken away, as certain politicians will likely notice.]]>Dec 9th 2006 12:08PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/12/09/german-legislation-would-jail-fps-gamers/http://www.engadget.com/2006/12/09/german-legislation-would-jail-fps-gamers/
And on the silly thing about this is, is that CS has been around for a long ass time now. Whether or not the law gets passed, if it gets passed there will always be another online game to flock too. I for one do not hope such a frivolous law ever gets passed.]]>Dec 9th 2006 12:31PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/12/09/german-legislation-would-jail-fps-gamers/http://www.engadget.com/2006/12/09/german-legislation-would-jail-fps-gamers/Dec 9th 2006 12:51PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/12/09/german-legislation-would-jail-fps-gamers/http://www.engadget.com/2006/12/09/german-legislation-would-jail-fps-gamers/
We just need to make an FPS where people "inflict cruel violence" on non-human-looking characters, like carrots.

I, for one, welcome our new vegetable shooting game genre.
-Taylor]]>Dec 9th 2006 1:10PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/12/09/german-legislation-would-jail-fps-gamers/http://www.engadget.com/2006/12/09/german-legislation-would-jail-fps-gamers/Dec 9th 2006 1:22PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/12/09/german-legislation-would-jail-fps-gamers/http://www.engadget.com/2006/12/09/german-legislation-would-jail-fps-gamers/
It creeps me out that remotely intelligent people have such a hard time assigning responsibility to individuals.]]>Dec 9th 2006 1:33PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/12/09/german-legislation-would-jail-fps-gamers/http://www.engadget.com/2006/12/09/german-legislation-would-jail-fps-gamers/BTW, does Rammstein have violent lyrics? I don't understand German, so I wouldn't know.]]>Dec 10th 2006 12:09AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/12/09/german-legislation-would-jail-fps-gamers/http://www.engadget.com/2006/12/09/german-legislation-would-jail-fps-gamers/Dec 9th 2006 1:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/12/09/german-legislation-would-jail-fps-gamers/http://www.engadget.com/2006/12/09/german-legislation-would-jail-fps-gamers/Dec 9th 2006 1:49PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/12/09/german-legislation-would-jail-fps-gamers/http://www.engadget.com/2006/12/09/german-legislation-would-jail-fps-gamers/
Frankly, whenever I hear about governments/ protest groups/ people who should be raising their kids instead of bitching about why 'others' have failed them, I just want to get a high powered rifle and kill every mother-f*#!~** one of them! Maybe launch an anti-tank missile into the sides of their heads!! Ya Ya!! Die bitch die!!! Maybe if I had an APC or a tank, I could change their pointless arguments to help support the need for violent games. Ya, then they would understand. Then everyone would understand... ]]>Dec 9th 2006 1:55PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/12/09/german-legislation-would-jail-fps-gamers/http://www.engadget.com/2006/12/09/german-legislation-would-jail-fps-gamers/Dec 9th 2006 2:12PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/12/09/german-legislation-would-jail-fps-gamers/http://www.engadget.com/2006/12/09/german-legislation-would-jail-fps-gamers/http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KZ_Manager

Sorry, I just _had_ to post this.]]>Dec 9th 2006 2:26PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/12/09/german-legislation-would-jail-fps-gamers/http://www.engadget.com/2006/12/09/german-legislation-would-jail-fps-gamers/Dec 9th 2006 2:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/12/09/german-legislation-would-jail-fps-gamers/http://www.engadget.com/2006/12/09/german-legislation-would-jail-fps-gamers/Dec 9th 2006 4:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/12/09/german-legislation-would-jail-fps-gamers/http://www.engadget.com/2006/12/09/german-legislation-would-jail-fps-gamers/Dec 9th 2006 3:41PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/12/09/german-legislation-would-jail-fps-gamers/http://www.engadget.com/2006/12/09/german-legislation-would-jail-fps-gamers/Dec 9th 2006 3:53PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/12/09/german-legislation-would-jail-fps-gamers/http://www.engadget.com/2006/12/09/german-legislation-would-jail-fps-gamers/http://www.bmj.de/enid/58.html?presseartikel_id=2624

Our federal minister of justice declares that a change of laws is unnecessary, and that the propositions of the regional ministers don't have any additional use.]]>Dec 9th 2006 4:09PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/12/09/german-legislation-would-jail-fps-gamers/http://www.engadget.com/2006/12/09/german-legislation-would-jail-fps-gamers/How many people told jack thompson to shut up and he's still around yelling and screaming.
Ah isn't it gread to life in the free democratic world where everyone can lie around?]]>Dec 10th 2006 10:42AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/12/09/german-legislation-would-jail-fps-gamers/http://www.engadget.com/2006/12/09/german-legislation-would-jail-fps-gamers/Dec 9th 2006 5:45PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/12/09/german-legislation-would-jail-fps-gamers/http://www.engadget.com/2006/12/09/german-legislation-would-jail-fps-gamers/Dec 9th 2006 10:34PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/12/09/german-legislation-would-jail-fps-gamers/http://www.engadget.com/2006/12/09/german-legislation-would-jail-fps-gamers/
games aren't the reason, the ppl who play it are… if a defective play the games he will dive into an other world far from all problems others made to him.

the problem is the society looking away from problems others have. look at teachers… they aren't interested in solving problems cause they aren't payed for.

as long ppl threating others like shit these will return and pay back. violence generates counter-violence that's a fact and our government have to prevent and act and not react after something happens.

the bavarian idiot stoiber and his following talking about things they never will understand.

how many ppl play counterstrike, world of warcraft or other games? millions over millions but "only" 0,0001 percent drives crazy? to drive cars is more violent… let's forbid cars.

i'm waiting for the day the media coverage spreading the headline: "kid drives crazy after playing super mario”.]]>Dec 10th 2006 6:04AM