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<generator>Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/</generator><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Microsoft's CableCARD DRM]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/12/microsofts-cablecard-drm/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/12/microsofts-cablecard-drm/</guid><description><![CDATA[wow, they couldn't have made all of this any simpler if they really tried.  Never.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Frode]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Jan 12th 2007 7:53AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Microsoft's CableCARD DRM]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/12/microsofts-cablecard-drm/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/12/microsofts-cablecard-drm/</guid><description><![CDATA[One more reason to be a pirate.  It's a sad day when companies turn customers that pay over $1000 a year for their cable service into legal enemies.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[David S]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Jan 12th 2007 8:42AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Microsoft's CableCARD DRM]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/12/microsofts-cablecard-drm/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/12/microsofts-cablecard-drm/</guid><description><![CDATA[Hello again, Jenna Fischer :)]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Jeff]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Jan 12th 2007 8:16AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Microsoft's CableCARD DRM]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/12/microsofts-cablecard-drm/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/12/microsofts-cablecard-drm/</guid><description><![CDATA[Zune= a sad attempt at copying Apple once again. <br><br>They should have called it the Dupe]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Frank]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Jan 12th 2007 8:35AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Microsoft's CableCARD DRM]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/12/microsofts-cablecard-drm/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/12/microsofts-cablecard-drm/</guid><description><![CDATA["Zune= a sad attempt at copying Apple once again. "<br><br><br>I suppose it goes both ways. <br><br>Apple iTV (or whatever it's currently called) is a sad attempt at copying MCE/Extender.<br><br>By the way, I'm not sure which part of this article is news.  I think it's all been known for weeks if not months.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Aaron]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Jan 12th 2007 9:13AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Microsoft's CableCARD DRM]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/12/microsofts-cablecard-drm/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/12/microsofts-cablecard-drm/</guid><description><![CDATA[source?]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[K]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Jan 12th 2007 9:09AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Microsoft's CableCARD DRM]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/12/microsofts-cablecard-drm/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/12/microsofts-cablecard-drm/</guid><description><![CDATA[So does this mean that i wont have to have a cable labs certified PC in order to record HD to stream to my xbox 360?  That would be unreal considering that im not trying to do anything illegal.  I really couldn't care less about getting the content off of my headless media server.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Andy]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Jan 12th 2007 9:26AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Microsoft's CableCARD DRM]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/12/microsofts-cablecard-drm/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/12/microsofts-cablecard-drm/</guid><description><![CDATA[I am amazed at the fact that while this is not related to the zune. People still find away to trash it for no reason. Put apple in this position and watch them do the same thing.<br><br><br>This is not about the zune is about VISTA MCE. <br><br>Aaron thank you for pointing the appletv/mce extender copy.<br>i hate the fact that when apple do something is INNOVATIVE.<br>The appletv is a piece of crap crippled with drm files only.<br><br>Regarding the vista mce subject. I can see why microsoft would this im pretty sure their avoding sues and pissed of executives. ]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[uNext]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Jan 12th 2007 9:31AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Microsoft's CableCARD DRM]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/12/microsofts-cablecard-drm/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/12/microsofts-cablecard-drm/</guid><description><![CDATA[Some of it is news, I think: the ability to record clear QAM, the absence of automatic channel mapping, and the (logical) differentiation in DRM treatment between OTA and CableCARD-sourced content.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Josh]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Jan 12th 2007 9:38AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Microsoft's CableCARD DRM]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/12/microsofts-cablecard-drm/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/12/microsofts-cablecard-drm/</guid><description><![CDATA[Why does f-ing cable labs allow TiVo to record HD and not MS? MS needs to get some balls and change allow HD-recording and transfers to portable media devices. Not having HD recording ability gives TiVo a huge edge it seems MS would want to eliminate. MS also needs to allow streaming of HD-DVD and DVD to media extenders from a changer or ripped file on a server.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Shmoe]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Jan 12th 2007 9:41AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Microsoft's CableCARD DRM]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/12/microsofts-cablecard-drm/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/12/microsofts-cablecard-drm/</guid><description><![CDATA[Heres my question: I really don't even give a "F" if I can or can not record HD channels, what I wanted to do was use a cablecard TV Tuner just to get rid of my set top box and just watch standard television (the channels I get above 100).  Is that going to be possible or is it that if it doesn't have the certification the tuner won't even be able to be installed in my PC?]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Jason]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Jan 19th 2007 9:11AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Microsoft's CableCARD DRM]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/12/microsofts-cablecard-drm/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/12/microsofts-cablecard-drm/</guid><description><![CDATA[With all of those Defective By Design restrictions, why even bother with it? I know I wouldn't. Not worth the hassle and frustration. I look forward to a hacker cracking the whole scheme wide open, allowing us to use the hardware the way we SHOULD be able to.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[WedgeTalon]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Jan 12th 2007 9:42AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Microsoft's CableCARD DRM]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/12/microsofts-cablecard-drm/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/12/microsofts-cablecard-drm/</guid><description><![CDATA[Why does f-ing cable labs allow TiVo to record HD and not MS?<br><br>Vista has the same HD features as Tivo. Tivo also does not allow you to move content to a portable device. Vista allows you to stream to extender (XB360), which is something Tivo cannot do for HD.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Bob lee]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Jan 12th 2007 11:09AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Microsoft's CableCARD DRM]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/12/microsofts-cablecard-drm/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/12/microsofts-cablecard-drm/</guid><description><![CDATA[So I'm going to have to buy CableCard tuners on eBay. Lovely.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Erwos]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Jan 12th 2007 10:22AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Microsoft's CableCARD DRM]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/12/microsofts-cablecard-drm/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/12/microsofts-cablecard-drm/</guid><description><![CDATA[Will QAM be supported only on the cable card tuners?  Or can I use any card that supports QAM?  As long as I can map the QAM channels manually and they stay mapped I'll be happy.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Sam]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Jan 12th 2007 10:34AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Microsoft's CableCARD DRM]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/12/microsofts-cablecard-drm/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/12/microsofts-cablecard-drm/</guid><description><![CDATA[Shmoe: You might want to re-read the post as it's about the ability to record HD in Windows Vista.  It can be done, not the other way around.<br><br>On the topic of "Copy Never", it will not be recorded and it will not sit around on your hard drive for extended amounts of time.  Copy Never content should basically be limited to things like On-Demand programming, which CableCARD 1.0 doesn't support anyway.<br><br>Chris]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Chris Lanier]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Jan 12th 2007 10:44AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Microsoft's CableCARD DRM]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/12/microsofts-cablecard-drm/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/12/microsofts-cablecard-drm/</guid><description><![CDATA[Steve Jobs is the Donald Trump of consumer elecronics.  Hyperbole  all the way.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[icfleming]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Jan 12th 2007 10:48AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Microsoft's CableCARD DRM]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/12/microsofts-cablecard-drm/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/12/microsofts-cablecard-drm/</guid><description><![CDATA[Wow CableLabs... there is nothing better than being treated like a criminal from the get go.  THank you.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Tim Bergquist]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Jan 12th 2007 11:23AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Microsoft's CableCARD DRM]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/12/microsofts-cablecard-drm/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/12/microsofts-cablecard-drm/</guid><description><![CDATA[I don't get it. I can copy HBO and pay-per-view to VHS whenever I want... didn't we already fight this battle for personal copies in the supreme court? DVD/HD is just a different medium serving the very same purpose. So, how about stop taking away basic features that I grew up with, eh? <br><br>I'm paying $170 a month to enjoy all cable has to offer. Fight the criminals not the paying customers.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Alanna]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Jan 15th 2007 7:41PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Microsoft's CableCARD DRM]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/12/microsofts-cablecard-drm/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/12/microsofts-cablecard-drm/</guid><description><![CDATA[Requiredment? Spellcheck!!!]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[J]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Jan 12th 2007 11:42AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Microsoft's CableCARD DRM]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/12/microsofts-cablecard-drm/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/12/microsofts-cablecard-drm/</guid><description><![CDATA[Change will only ever come about in this arena when we the consumers decide to employ our most powerful weapon: not buying this crap until they stop crippling it.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[DerekGoesToPhilly]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Jan 12th 2007 12:23PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Microsoft's CableCARD DRM]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/12/microsofts-cablecard-drm/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/12/microsofts-cablecard-drm/</guid><description><![CDATA[I would generally agree that we shouldn't buy until they fix the streaming/moving issues.<br><br>However, I was duped by TIVO.  They called the new box a "series 3"  when in fact they should have named it "series 0.5 with HD".  They go to great lengths to advertise the series 2 features, and then no where on the place where you buy it does it mention the absence of Multi room viewing, TIvo To Go, Guru Guides, and remote scheduling.  Something tells me that that was on purpose.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[andy]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Jan 12th 2007 4:48PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Microsoft's CableCARD DRM]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/12/microsofts-cablecard-drm/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/12/microsofts-cablecard-drm/</guid><description><![CDATA[So if you cannot copy it does that mean you will not be able to move the file off your computer at all? Could you not put it onto a networked server for example? That sucks if this is the case. ]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[bmitsuda]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Jan 12th 2007 1:06PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Microsoft's CableCARD DRM]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/12/microsofts-cablecard-drm/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/12/microsofts-cablecard-drm/</guid><description><![CDATA[Well it says "The files will be stored on the hard drive encrypted" so unless Vista has really changed the file system you will be able to copy these files wherever you want, but they will be encrypted and I would assume therefore useless (until someone breaks the encryption).]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Brandon]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Jan 12th 2007 1:35PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Microsoft's CableCARD DRM]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/12/microsofts-cablecard-drm/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/12/microsofts-cablecard-drm/</guid><description><![CDATA[This is the first I've heard of unencrypted QAM being able to be recorded. So does this mean that I can pop an A180 in my vista box and have it record QAM channels? Strange that this is the only site that I've seen mention the unencrypted QAM ability.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[DB23]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Jan 12th 2007 2:21PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Microsoft's CableCARD DRM]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/12/microsofts-cablecard-drm/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/12/microsofts-cablecard-drm/</guid><description><![CDATA[Charlie Owen from the Windows Media Center team here. I'm not sure where Ben got his information but Windows Media Center is definitely able to record high definition television. Today that content can come from over the air (OTA) broadcast ATSC. When Windows Vista ships it will expand to include Open Cable Unidirectional Receivers (OCUR) aka CableCard tuners. Live and Recorded TV (including high definition content) can freely flow to attached Media Center Extenders (today that's the XBox 360). Copying / transcoding the content to portable devices will depend on the rights granted by the content owner as embedded in the content stream.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Charlie Owen]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Jan 12th 2007 1:27PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Microsoft's CableCARD DRM]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/12/microsofts-cablecard-drm/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/12/microsofts-cablecard-drm/</guid><description><![CDATA[The author of this article is wrong.  Premium HD content can be recorded (like high-def HBO), and this is the whole point of having a cablecard-based HD tuner in Media Center.  Premium HD recorded content can also be played back on extenders like the XBox 360.<br><br>]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[ttnorthwest]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Jan 12th 2007 1:27PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Microsoft's CableCARD DRM]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/12/microsofts-cablecard-drm/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/12/microsofts-cablecard-drm/</guid><description><![CDATA[Well this is good and bad.<br><br>Good that you can actually record HD cable with a MCE.<br><br>Bad that Microsoft wouldn't have been able to do it without supporting DRM.<br><br><br>Microsoft really isn't pro DRM when it's not called for, they are only pro DRM when it net benefits the consumer.<br><br><br>I'd much rather have CableCard recording support with DRM than nothing at all and that really is the choice here due to CableLABS.<br><br>And hopefully it'll be easier to crack the protection than your average DVR so you can set your files free. :)]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Russell]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Jan 12th 2007 4:58PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Microsoft's CableCARD DRM]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/12/microsofts-cablecard-drm/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/12/microsofts-cablecard-drm/</guid><description><![CDATA[Three questions...<br><br>(1) If you use a PCI HDTV tuner in your PC, can you record any HD content you subscribe to?<br><br>(2) What is QAM?<br><br>(3) Are there any PCI CableCARD tuners?<br><br>Can't wait for Vista Ultimate!]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Jason]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Jan 12th 2007 4:45PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Microsoft's CableCARD DRM]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/12/microsofts-cablecard-drm/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/12/microsofts-cablecard-drm/</guid><description><![CDATA[What does "mapping QAM channels manually" mean?  MCE knows what cable system you're on and what channels it has, why would you need to map anything?  Why would having a cable card (simply a decryption device) map channels for you?  All the cablecard knows is if it can or cannot decrypt a selected encrypted stream, why do people imply it knows anything about the unencrypted (basic) QAM cable channels?]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[kballs]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Jan 12th 2007 5:47PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Microsoft's CableCARD DRM]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/12/microsofts-cablecard-drm/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/12/microsofts-cablecard-drm/</guid><description><![CDATA[Darn, I just sold my HDTV card that supported QAM. I knew I should have held on to it a bit longer. <br>But I have a feeling that the QAM support may not be as sweet as most would like it to be. <br>If we can map unencrypted QAM channels, can we then tell Media Center what the real channel is so it can populate the guide data for that channel? <br>If I can only tune to the channel by scrolling to channel number 1134 and hit record to get some generic file name for the show that I'm recording it does me no good. The main reason I use Media Center is to time shift. So I don't have to be in front of the TV (or even in the house for that matter) and not worry about missing the programs that I want to see. <br><br>Also what is the news on the Directv PC Tuner Card. I've heard nothing about it since the announcement that Microsoft and Directv had partnered up. Is this something that we will see this Spring? Summer? Year?<br><br>I've got a TB of drive space waiting to record some HD programming. But currently all I can get is 4 crappy OTA stations of stuff I don't want to see. Directv would be my first choice but I would settle for cable or even settle for the unecrypted QAM stations (and buy another card that supports it). ]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[CaptCaveman]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Jan 12th 2007 9:26PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Microsoft's CableCARD DRM]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/12/microsofts-cablecard-drm/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/12/microsofts-cablecard-drm/</guid><description><![CDATA[First, a word on the article -- I'm sure that the author meant "As much as we like THE CURRENT VERSION of MCE...."<br><br>kballs,<br><br>Yes, MCE knows what cable system you're on and it knows what channels it has.  However, it doesn't know *where* those channels are.  You see -- unlike analog cable where these placements remain constant, cable companies have the ability to move digital channels around.  The STB (set top box) tracks the movement and the end-user is unaware that anything has happened. One of the key advantages of a cable card is that it translates a table of channel placements (where in the frequency spectrum each channel is).    "Mapping QAM channels manually" means that a user must first find the correct channel in the digital spectrum and then "tell" MCE that a certain frequency is a certain channel.<br><br>Now -- to answer the question that will SURELY come up later.  NO -- MCE will not (IS NOT ALLOWED TO) use the CableCARD mappings to populate the guide.  This is part of the Cable Labs specification.  This is not a Microsoft decision.  Their hands are tied there.<br><br><br>]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Steve]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Jan 13th 2007 1:24PM</pubDate></item></channel></rss>
