http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/13/round-one-goes-to-the-hackers-backuphddvd-rips-open-aacs/ Engadget Comments for http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/13/round-one-goes-to-the-hackers-backuphddvd-rips-open-aacs/http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/13/round-one-goes-to-the-hackers-backuphddvd-rips-open-aacs/Jan 13th 2007 12:15PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/01/13/round-one-goes-to-the-hackers-backuphddvd-rips-open-aacs/http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/13/round-one-goes-to-the-hackers-backuphddvd-rips-open-aacs/
Really, the whole HDCP thing is still mindblowing to me. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that people are going to find a way to hack it, make copies of HD content, etc. But in the meantime, it seems like the primary people HDCP is going to cause problems for is consumers who legitimately buy protected HD content and then find they can't play it, because some component they have doesn't display it.

It's like everything else. Selling DRM'd music and movies basically just limits what the people who actually buy the stuff can do; the people who pirate that same content of course don't ever have to worry about DRM. ]]>Jan 13th 2007 12:24PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/01/13/round-one-goes-to-the-hackers-backuphddvd-rips-open-aacs/http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/13/round-one-goes-to-the-hackers-backuphddvd-rips-open-aacs/http://www.engadget.com/2006/12/27/aacs-drm-cracked-by-backuphddvd-tool/ Furthermore, it doesn't even crack AACS, it just compromises the keys, and AACS was designed to be able to easily invalidate keys. Guess who reported on this as well? You got it, Engadget!! http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/03/what-exactly-does-backuphddvd-do-oh-and-version-1-0-is-release/

Sheesh guys, this is freaking amateur. Your own damn editors are tripping over themselves.]]>Jan 13th 2007 12:29PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/01/13/round-one-goes-to-the-hackers-backuphddvd-rips-open-aacs/http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/13/round-one-goes-to-the-hackers-backuphddvd-rips-open-aacs/Jan 13th 2007 12:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/01/13/round-one-goes-to-the-hackers-backuphddvd-rips-open-aacs/http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/13/round-one-goes-to-the-hackers-backuphddvd-rips-open-aacs/Jan 13th 2007 12:47PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/01/13/round-one-goes-to-the-hackers-backuphddvd-rips-open-aacs/http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/13/round-one-goes-to-the-hackers-backuphddvd-rips-open-aacs/
The only possible threat is that this version of PowerDVD is blacklisted (that's the key revocation thing there), and a new version is released. However, now that we know the code for some disks, we know what to look for in any newer versions of the software. So using this on future versions shouldn't be a problem.

I'm looking forward to ripping my movies in HD. You could probably make a good 720p copy on a DVDR-DL or maybe even a normal DVDR.]]>Jan 13th 2007 12:55PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/01/13/round-one-goes-to-the-hackers-backuphddvd-rips-open-aacs/http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/13/round-one-goes-to-the-hackers-backuphddvd-rips-open-aacs/
HD-DVD = dead.
Long live Blu Ray (I actually preferred HD-DVD, but whatever.)

(HD-DVD might survive is Blu Ray is also cracked and/or the industry revokes all software player keys so that software players are no longer an avenue for hacking so that future discs are compromised.)]]>Jan 13th 2007 4:53PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/01/13/round-one-goes-to-the-hackers-backuphddvd-rips-open-aacs/http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/13/round-one-goes-to-the-hackers-backuphddvd-rips-open-aacs/Jan 13th 2007 12:52PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/01/13/round-one-goes-to-the-hackers-backuphddvd-rips-open-aacs/http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/13/round-one-goes-to-the-hackers-backuphddvd-rips-open-aacs/
So how soon till we see King Kong on blu-ray? I guarantee if it does not happen soon, a Blu-Ray ISO image, ready to burn onto a blank blu-ray disc version will show up instead. Universal, don't be jeopardizing your fine software by releasing on HD-DVD, release on Blu-Ray, end the war, and lets get back to what we all love, High Def movies.

-Peace]]>Jan 13th 2007 12:54PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/01/13/round-one-goes-to-the-hackers-backuphddvd-rips-open-aacs/http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/13/round-one-goes-to-the-hackers-backuphddvd-rips-open-aacs/
Maybe they'll start demanding HD-DVD royalties as well :P]]>Jan 13th 2007 12:57PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/01/13/round-one-goes-to-the-hackers-backuphddvd-rips-open-aacs/http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/13/round-one-goes-to-the-hackers-backuphddvd-rips-open-aacs/Jan 13th 2007 12:59PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/01/13/round-one-goes-to-the-hackers-backuphddvd-rips-open-aacs/http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/13/round-one-goes-to-the-hackers-backuphddvd-rips-open-aacs/Jan 13th 2007 1:06PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/01/13/round-one-goes-to-the-hackers-backuphddvd-rips-open-aacs/http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/13/round-one-goes-to-the-hackers-backuphddvd-rips-open-aacs/
You are retarded. Its the full HD-DVD version with HD-DVD menus and all the SD extras from the disc. Its a completely decrypted version of the hd-dvd in everyway. It is not a satellite in MPEG2 or H.264 from europe, this is the real deal.]]>Jan 13th 2007 1:20PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/01/13/round-one-goes-to-the-hackers-backuphddvd-rips-open-aacs/http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/13/round-one-goes-to-the-hackers-backuphddvd-rips-open-aacs/Jan 13th 2007 1:23PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/01/13/round-one-goes-to-the-hackers-backuphddvd-rips-open-aacs/http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/13/round-one-goes-to-the-hackers-backuphddvd-rips-open-aacs/Jan 13th 2007 1:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/01/13/round-one-goes-to-the-hackers-backuphddvd-rips-open-aacs/http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/13/round-one-goes-to-the-hackers-backuphddvd-rips-open-aacs/
I don't think AACS is cracked, still. They found a way to extract the keys from/with PowerDVD or whatever, but AACS itself is still unbroken.


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Even Vista's BitLocker uses AACS. It's a strong encryption method, and very difficult to break. Just because it's been broken on HD-DVDs, doesn't mean it's broken on BluRay and BitLocker and every other implementation, too.]]>Jan 13th 2007 6:38PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/01/13/round-one-goes-to-the-hackers-backuphddvd-rips-open-aacs/http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/13/round-one-goes-to-the-hackers-backuphddvd-rips-open-aacs/
Then some people say Blu-ray is not impacted by the hack at all because it has additional layers of copy-protection.

So, what is the message studios get here? Is it that copy protection is dumb, or is it that hd-dvd didn't have enough copy protection?]]>Jan 13th 2007 2:05PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/01/13/round-one-goes-to-the-hackers-backuphddvd-rips-open-aacs/http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/13/round-one-goes-to-the-hackers-backuphddvd-rips-open-aacs/
because when DVD was cracked that format failed...

oh. wait.]]>Jan 13th 2007 2:06PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/01/13/round-one-goes-to-the-hackers-backuphddvd-rips-open-aacs/http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/13/round-one-goes-to-the-hackers-backuphddvd-rips-open-aacs/
You're an idiot. There was no competing format when DVD was cracked. Right now we have two formats, one of which has support from 90% of the studios. The other one is quasi-cracked, and the movies are starting to be distributed across the internet. If you were a big wig of a huge Hollywood studio, would you continue to release movies on the format that has been cracked? Even if the other format will be cracked eventually, it still has lasted longer than the other one. Even if piracy did help the sales of HD-DVD, that is not how the big movie studios think.

Once Universal signs on with Bluray, we can kiss this stupid format war goodbye. But oh no, the evil Sony corporation will have won. And of course we can't have that.]]>Jan 13th 2007 2:36PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/01/13/round-one-goes-to-the-hackers-backuphddvd-rips-open-aacs/http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/13/round-one-goes-to-the-hackers-backuphddvd-rips-open-aacs/

Indeed. I've had Serenity, Saving Private Ryan, Episode 3, King Kong, and Sin City in 720p for a few months now, that is the logical explanation.]]>Jan 13th 2007 2:06PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/01/13/round-one-goes-to-the-hackers-backuphddvd-rips-open-aacs/http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/13/round-one-goes-to-the-hackers-backuphddvd-rips-open-aacs/Jan 13th 2007 2:08PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/01/13/round-one-goes-to-the-hackers-backuphddvd-rips-open-aacs/http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/13/round-one-goes-to-the-hackers-backuphddvd-rips-open-aacs/
What did you play it back on? ]]>Jan 13th 2007 2:09PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/01/13/round-one-goes-to-the-hackers-backuphddvd-rips-open-aacs/http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/13/round-one-goes-to-the-hackers-backuphddvd-rips-open-aacs/
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If HD-DVD were to die tomorrow, and Blu-Ray become the only game in town, do you really think everyone would just throw up their hands and say, "Oh well, it was nice while it lasted"? Of course not.

Using this as an argument that Blu-Ray is superior because it has more layers of (completely pointless) encryption is like saying your cell phone is better because you have more fake diamonds on it.

The lesson that MPAA morons should be getting is that the only people being affected by all this encryption are the people who aren't interested in breaking encryption in the first damn place. The people who want to break it are going to, and the people who don't want to break it are being massively inconvenienced.

I don't know about the rest of you, but I'm of the opinion that alienation of the people who buy your stuff, in the long run, is a very poor idea. They've forgotten that they're ultimately answerable to the consumer and, one of these days, the consumer might just bite back where it counts.]]>Jan 13th 2007 2:16PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/01/13/round-one-goes-to-the-hackers-backuphddvd-rips-open-aacs/http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/13/round-one-goes-to-the-hackers-backuphddvd-rips-open-aacs/Jan 14th 2007 6:07PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/01/13/round-one-goes-to-the-hackers-backuphddvd-rips-open-aacs/http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/13/round-one-goes-to-the-hackers-backuphddvd-rips-open-aacs/Jan 13th 2007 5:14PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/01/13/round-one-goes-to-the-hackers-backuphddvd-rips-open-aacs/http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/13/round-one-goes-to-the-hackers-backuphddvd-rips-open-aacs/
HD-DVD is a great format, the players are cheaper and there are more movies available. HD-DVD initially had a sales leads because of the 1080i player matching 1080i sets. Now they are both 1080p and your only real difference is that HD-DVD is less expensive and slightly less storage capacity for bonus material.

HD-DVD is a better name for the less-informed consumer too.
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I live Australia so I can't speak for the whole market but everywhere I go, I see more Blu-ray players than HD-DVD players... in fact, I'm still looking around for a HD-DVD to compare. So from my perspective, Blu-ray is winning the format war here.]]>Jan 13th 2007 6:15PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/01/13/round-one-goes-to-the-hackers-backuphddvd-rips-open-aacs/http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/13/round-one-goes-to-the-hackers-backuphddvd-rips-open-aacs/Jan 13th 2007 3:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/01/13/round-one-goes-to-the-hackers-backuphddvd-rips-open-aacs/http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/13/round-one-goes-to-the-hackers-backuphddvd-rips-open-aacs/
And Rom-Mark is already in effect, its actually a chip that plugs into the pressing box and hard codes the key onto the press during the image process. No Rom Mark chip plugged in, no way to press discs. Very simple. So yes, Blu-Ray IS protected for the long run, HD-DVD left itself wide open with its pants down.

Also, all you pro hd-dvd guys, do you not realize that Microsoft is only in it to try and sabotage Blu-Ray? They dont give a CRAP about hd-dvd, they never have. But they wanted the next gen format race to become crap and never take off so that people would give up and go to downloading HD movies using Microsoft's VC-1 Codec. That is their #1 objective. If HD-DVD were to win tomorrow, microsoft would drop them like a hot potato. Would would you want to be on the side of a propaganda machine thats #1 objective is to destroy media on discs? You really need to open your eyes and see WHY microsoft is basically running HD-DVD now.]]>Jan 13th 2007 3:38PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/01/13/round-one-goes-to-the-hackers-backuphddvd-rips-open-aacs/http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/13/round-one-goes-to-the-hackers-backuphddvd-rips-open-aacs/
Yes and bent over... With a tube of lubricate in their hand, and a tatoo "Welcome on board".]]>Jan 13th 2007 3:51PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/01/13/round-one-goes-to-the-hackers-backuphddvd-rips-open-aacs/http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/13/round-one-goes-to-the-hackers-backuphddvd-rips-open-aacs/
"There is not a prohibition against adult content," said Marty Gordon, vicechair of the BDA US Promotions Committee and vice president of the Philips Electronics Hollywood Office. "The BDA welcomes the participation of all companies interested in using and supporting the format, particularly those from the content industry. We look forward to working with any content providers interested in providing their audience with [the] best possible high definition home entertainment experience."
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Microsoft is supporting it because they couldn't endorse one of the big selling points of the PS3. If they did, they'd be saying "BluRay is great technology and we think it'll win the format war." An XBOX360 + HDDVD drive costs more than a PS3, so people might go for the PS3. Besides, then they can throw that "pro choice" rubbish around.]]>Jan 13th 2007 6:44PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/01/13/round-one-goes-to-the-hackers-backuphddvd-rips-open-aacs/http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/13/round-one-goes-to-the-hackers-backuphddvd-rips-open-aacs/Jan 13th 2007 9:21PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/01/13/round-one-goes-to-the-hackers-backuphddvd-rips-open-aacs/http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/13/round-one-goes-to-the-hackers-backuphddvd-rips-open-aacs/
Maybe the decision to support HD-DVD was twofold.

Also, people who say that the AV industry supports HD-DVD isn't exactly right. But you also have to consider that the AV industry isn't the deciding juggernaut it once was. Its main opponent right now is the internet.

Not as many people buy adult entertainment hard copies like they once did. That matters.]]>Jan 14th 2007 1:05AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/01/13/round-one-goes-to-the-hackers-backuphddvd-rips-open-aacs/http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/13/round-one-goes-to-the-hackers-backuphddvd-rips-open-aacs/

"Indeed. I've had Serenity, Saving Private Ryan, Episode 3, King Kong, and Sin City in 720p for a few months now, that is the logical explanation."

This is not the case, the serenity offered are 1080p vc-1 and weighs in at 19.6gb. and are true hd dvd copy.]]>Jan 14th 2007 12:01AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/01/13/round-one-goes-to-the-hackers-backuphddvd-rips-open-aacs/http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/13/round-one-goes-to-the-hackers-backuphddvd-rips-open-aacs/
Can anyone point me in the general direction?]]>Jan 14th 2007 1:08AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/01/13/round-one-goes-to-the-hackers-backuphddvd-rips-open-aacs/http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/13/round-one-goes-to-the-hackers-backuphddvd-rips-open-aacs/Just Spotted Superman Returns HD-DVD in the wield

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Hacking is bad for HD-DVD because it will scare some of the movie companies, who may perceive it as a threat to their studio's profits in HD-DVD. Of course, Blu-Ray will get hacked, too, so we'll see what happens after that.

Personally, I prefer HD-DVD. It looks far better (VC-1 wins hands down) and was cheaper for me to get into ($200 for the 360 add-on, and as my 360 was a prize, $200 was my total price to get into HD-DVD). I'm also not fond of Sony's shoehorning a format into the public every couple years in their attempt to get control of a whole market. HD-DVD is supported by the DVD forum, while Blu-Ray is just a challenger that is trying steal the market away. It's always like this with Sony; They don't care about the quality of the product as long as it gives them control over consumers.]]>Jan 14th 2007 4:07PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/01/13/round-one-goes-to-the-hackers-backuphddvd-rips-open-aacs/http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/13/round-one-goes-to-the-hackers-backuphddvd-rips-open-aacs/
Copy protection on HD-DVD and Blu-ray is the same, someone found a pair of bolt cutters to cut the lock off HD-DVD, it doesnt mean that the same wont happen for blu-ray or that hd-dvd is dead because of it. just my 2c.]]>Jan 15th 2007 1:39PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/01/13/round-one-goes-to-the-hackers-backuphddvd-rips-open-aacs/http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/13/round-one-goes-to-the-hackers-backuphddvd-rips-open-aacs/
Anticrawl]]>Jan 26th 2007 2:52PM