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Try again, applesucksLeo. Maybe one day you'll have an ati-Apple post that actually holds water.]]>Jan 17th 2007 9:50AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/01/17/the-widescreen-iphone-not-so-widescreen/http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/17/the-widescreen-iphone-not-so-widescreen/Jan 17th 2007 10:21AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/01/17/the-widescreen-iphone-not-so-widescreen/http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/17/the-widescreen-iphone-not-so-widescreen/Jan 17th 2007 8:36AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/01/17/the-widescreen-iphone-not-so-widescreen/http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/17/the-widescreen-iphone-not-so-widescreen/Jan 17th 2007 8:42AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/01/17/the-widescreen-iphone-not-so-widescreen/http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/17/the-widescreen-iphone-not-so-widescreen/
2.35:1 is one of the most common ratios for movies so I'm not sure how you think the shots are misleading. Personally given the form factor etc. I'd be watching move TV (which of course is 4:3 or 16:9) so this would not be AS big of an issue for me though. I can't see myself sitting staring at the tiny screen for a full length film.]]>Jan 17th 2007 8:51AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/01/17/the-widescreen-iphone-not-so-widescreen/http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/17/the-widescreen-iphone-not-so-widescreen/Jan 17th 2007 8:27AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/01/17/the-widescreen-iphone-not-so-widescreen/http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/17/the-widescreen-iphone-not-so-widescreen/Jan 17th 2007 12:08PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/01/17/the-widescreen-iphone-not-so-widescreen/http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/17/the-widescreen-iphone-not-so-widescreen/
1. All signs point to cingular charging through the nose monthly to use all the phones features

2. Phone only available with a 2 year agreement

3. Not unlockable

4. No 3G

The iphone looks to be a great device but I'll be passing on the first generation

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Which signs? Which features? During the whole presentation, I didn't see a single feature that Cingular could charge for specifically.

"2. Phone only available with a 2 year agreement"

I am not going to complain about this before I see the contract conditions.

"3. Not unlockable"

I'm really curious as to who started that rumor.

"4. No 3G"

But WLAN. I still consider WLAN the better choice at this point. I can surf the web for free over WLAN when I'm at home. If I have a 3G-phone without WLAN (like the Treo), I _always_ have to pay for surfing the web.

There's WLAN service on many flights nowadays. Show me a flight where you are allowed to use your 3G phone to surf the web.
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1. Please back up stupid statements with urls to fact driven articles.. before you continue to pass along BS information. I dont see why they would charge more for phone and internet service for iPhones than the Blackjack.. or anyother bundle.. The idea that Cingular would be the one controlling the functionality of the iPhones is completely obsurd.. You think Apple would let the carrier determine how users are gonna use Apples device? Apple through them a bone by officially going with them. Apple could have chosen what ever carrier they wanted.

2. Last time i checked Cingular only does 2 year contracts. New Hi-Tech phones never come out as pay as you go...and very few carriers offer 1 year contracts (another reason i like Tmobile).

3. Umm from what im informed it is the Law that the phone be able to be unlocked, i assume to prevent a monopoly.

4. "No 3G"... this is the only solid proper argument that you've listed and that people have been complaining about since they saw/heard that fact... Congrats!]]>Jan 17th 2007 10:21AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/01/17/the-widescreen-iphone-not-so-widescreen/http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/17/the-widescreen-iphone-not-so-widescreen/Jan 17th 2007 12:33PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/01/17/the-widescreen-iphone-not-so-widescreen/http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/17/the-widescreen-iphone-not-so-widescreen/Jan 17th 2007 8:32AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/01/17/the-widescreen-iphone-not-so-widescreen/http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/17/the-widescreen-iphone-not-so-widescreen/Jan 17th 2007 8:36PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/01/17/the-widescreen-iphone-not-so-widescreen/http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/17/the-widescreen-iphone-not-so-widescreen/Jan 17th 2007 8:38AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/01/17/the-widescreen-iphone-not-so-widescreen/http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/17/the-widescreen-iphone-not-so-widescreen/
But not _all_; the Nokia 770, N800, and N810 internet tablets have 800x480 (16:9.6) displays, so they're between TV widescreen (16:9) and PC widescreen (16:10), and capable of displaying 16:9 video stretched to full-screen with little distortion.

As these devices do overlap some in market segment with the iPhone and iPod touch, Apple is actually promoting a less wide-screen product as "wide-screen", and the everyone-else-does-it defense no longer applies.]]>Jul 2nd 2008 11:00AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/01/17/the-widescreen-iphone-not-so-widescreen/http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/17/the-widescreen-iphone-not-so-widescreen/
However, for the record, the "Pirates" movies are shot at the even wider 2:35:1 aspect ratio (to look more epic), so there would really be no way to watch this particular movie in its original format without the dreaded black bars.]]>Jan 17th 2007 8:40AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/01/17/the-widescreen-iphone-not-so-widescreen/http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/17/the-widescreen-iphone-not-so-widescreen/Viewing a 16:9 video will result in black stripes top and bottom, but much less significant than in the 2.35:1 example shown.]]>Jan 17th 2007 8:44AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/01/17/the-widescreen-iphone-not-so-widescreen/http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/17/the-widescreen-iphone-not-so-widescreen/
Besides, the movie theaters also do the letterboxing.]]>Jan 17th 2007 8:47AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/01/17/the-widescreen-iphone-not-so-widescreen/http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/17/the-widescreen-iphone-not-so-widescreen/
That said, I'm surprised the dimension they picked wasn't 16:9.

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The Cowon A2 is 16x9]]>Jan 17th 2007 9:18AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/01/17/the-widescreen-iphone-not-so-widescreen/http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/17/the-widescreen-iphone-not-so-widescreen/Jan 17th 2007 9:18AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/01/17/the-widescreen-iphone-not-so-widescreen/http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/17/the-widescreen-iphone-not-so-widescreen/Jan 17th 2007 12:19PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/01/17/the-widescreen-iphone-not-so-widescreen/http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/17/the-widescreen-iphone-not-so-widescreen/Jan 17th 2007 9:20AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/01/17/the-widescreen-iphone-not-so-widescreen/http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/17/the-widescreen-iphone-not-so-widescreen/
As Joe V mentioned, many movies are filmed at 2.35:1, which is why a lot of films still have letterboxing even when played back on a widescreen television. They're really not a friendly size for any display smaller than a projector.]]>Jan 17th 2007 9:00AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/01/17/the-widescreen-iphone-not-so-widescreen/http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/17/the-widescreen-iphone-not-so-widescreen/
Those are the screen shots straight from Jobs' keynote. Interestingly, if the film had been sourced from iTunes as you might expect from a Disney film used in a Macworld keynote, then it would have a 640x480 resolution or 1.33:1 (4x3) aspect ratio on the iPhone. As such, the black bars would be left and right of the film, not top and bottom.

Thomas]]>Jan 17th 2007 9:04AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/01/17/the-widescreen-iphone-not-so-widescreen/http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/17/the-widescreen-iphone-not-so-widescreen/Jan 17th 2007 9:05AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/01/17/the-widescreen-iphone-not-so-widescreen/http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/17/the-widescreen-iphone-not-so-widescreen/Jan 18th 2007 9:47AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/01/17/the-widescreen-iphone-not-so-widescreen/http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/17/the-widescreen-iphone-not-so-widescreen/Show me a plane that flies at a height where you can pick up a WLAN Signal!]]>Jan 20th 2007 2:47PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/01/17/the-widescreen-iphone-not-so-widescreen/http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/17/the-widescreen-iphone-not-so-widescreen/Jan 17th 2007 9:36AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/01/17/the-widescreen-iphone-not-so-widescreen/http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/17/the-widescreen-iphone-not-so-widescreen/16:9 material is optimally viewed at 16:9. The real problem is the iPhone and iPod display is just to small to really appreciate some films either in 16:9 or 4:3.]]>Jan 17th 2007 9:28AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/01/17/the-widescreen-iphone-not-so-widescreen/http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/17/the-widescreen-iphone-not-so-widescreen/
Otherwise I'm not surprized. Most widescreen monitors aren't 16x9, they're 16x10. And most films are recorded in anamorphic widescreen, so they can fit on various sized outputs.

And 16x9 isn't considered the "Standard widescreen". It's the majority, but not the standard. ]]>Jan 17th 2007 10:04AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/01/17/the-widescreen-iphone-not-so-widescreen/http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/17/the-widescreen-iphone-not-so-widescreen/Jan 17th 2007 9:22AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/01/17/the-widescreen-iphone-not-so-widescreen/http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/17/the-widescreen-iphone-not-so-widescreen/
And you're a video editor? Either you're lying about your job, or you must not be very good at it.]]>Jan 17th 2007 10:26AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/01/17/the-widescreen-iphone-not-so-widescreen/http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/17/the-widescreen-iphone-not-so-widescreen/Jan 17th 2007 9:24AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/01/17/the-widescreen-iphone-not-so-widescreen/http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/17/the-widescreen-iphone-not-so-widescreen/Jan 17th 2007 9:37AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/01/17/the-widescreen-iphone-not-so-widescreen/http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/17/the-widescreen-iphone-not-so-widescreen/Jan 17th 2007 9:45AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/01/17/the-widescreen-iphone-not-so-widescreen/http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/17/the-widescreen-iphone-not-so-widescreen/Jan 17th 2007 9:52AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/01/17/the-widescreen-iphone-not-so-widescreen/http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/17/the-widescreen-iphone-not-so-widescreen/Jan 17th 2007 12:28PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/01/17/the-widescreen-iphone-not-so-widescreen/http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/17/the-widescreen-iphone-not-so-widescreen/Why is this news....why is this news 2 weeks later.]]>Jan 17th 2007 9:49AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/01/17/the-widescreen-iphone-not-so-widescreen/http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/17/the-widescreen-iphone-not-so-widescreen/Please can we lay off the iPhone until at least April..?
I really hope Apple have some kind of big announcement next month to divert all the blog space from the iPhone.]]>Jan 17th 2007 9:46AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/01/17/the-widescreen-iphone-not-so-widescreen/http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/17/the-widescreen-iphone-not-so-widescreen/Jan 17th 2007 10:35AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/01/17/the-widescreen-iphone-not-so-widescreen/http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/17/the-widescreen-iphone-not-so-widescreen/Jan 17th 2007 9:51AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/01/17/the-widescreen-iphone-not-so-widescreen/http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/17/the-widescreen-iphone-not-so-widescreen/Jan 17th 2007 10:14AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/01/17/the-widescreen-iphone-not-so-widescreen/http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/17/the-widescreen-iphone-not-so-widescreen/
I don't need another phone and I sure as hell don't want to bundle my phone with my iPod. I have a BB 8700c that my employer pays for with unlimited data--so I wonder if Mr. Jobs plans on releasing a non-phone iPhone-ish product?
]]>Jan 17th 2007 10:41AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/01/17/the-widescreen-iphone-not-so-widescreen/http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/17/the-widescreen-iphone-not-so-widescreen/Jan 17th 2007 10:11AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/01/17/the-widescreen-iphone-not-so-widescreen/http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/17/the-widescreen-iphone-not-so-widescreen/Call the police
Call the SWAT team
These blasphemous goons must be put away for LIFE!!!!!!]]>Jan 17th 2007 10:13AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/01/17/the-widescreen-iphone-not-so-widescreen/http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/17/the-widescreen-iphone-not-so-widescreen/Jan 17th 2007 10:14AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/01/17/the-widescreen-iphone-not-so-widescreen/http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/17/the-widescreen-iphone-not-so-widescreen/Jan 17th 2007 10:43AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/01/17/the-widescreen-iphone-not-so-widescreen/http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/17/the-widescreen-iphone-not-so-widescreen/
"Pirates" aspect ratio is among the WIDEST of movie film standards of formatting at 2.35:1 and no one on the planet supports that ratio natively, producing edge-to-edge, undistorted viewing on a fixed screen's full display area. You WILL get black bars top and bottom, even with the most expensive HDTV in the world. About the only way you can successfully accommodate is with custom modifications or a front projection system splashed onto a wall.

I guess this makes good blogging fodder for Engadget though.]]>Jan 17th 2007 10:42AM