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Record Labels made back-door deals and profits with MS in order for the ZUNE to perform certain functions. MS then sold the ZUNE on those features to the public. Now 2 months later we come to find out that those features will only work on 50% of the Music Artist and Songs.

Did they inform the consumers about this BEFORE they made the purchase – OR did they just do it, and hope you wouldn’t notice? That’s called FRAUD – There are (at the moment) laws that protect people from companies trying to commit fraud against consumers. THAT is the point.
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Lauren]]>Dec 4th 2008 11:54PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/01/19/universal-and-sony-prohibit-zune-sharing-for-certain-artists/http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/19/universal-and-sony-prohibit-zune-sharing-for-certain-artists/

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Welcome to the Anti-Social!!!]]>Jan 19th 2007 12:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/01/19/universal-and-sony-prohibit-zune-sharing-for-certain-artists/http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/19/universal-and-sony-prohibit-zune-sharing-for-certain-artists/Jan 19th 2007 5:05PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/01/19/universal-and-sony-prohibit-zune-sharing-for-certain-artists/http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/19/universal-and-sony-prohibit-zune-sharing-for-certain-artists/Jan 19th 2007 11:45AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/01/19/universal-and-sony-prohibit-zune-sharing-for-certain-artists/http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/19/universal-and-sony-prohibit-zune-sharing-for-certain-artists/live performances or tours.

MIDDLE FINGER TO THE RECORD COMPANYS.

]]>Jan 19th 2007 12:08PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/01/19/universal-and-sony-prohibit-zune-sharing-for-certain-artists/http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/19/universal-and-sony-prohibit-zune-sharing-for-certain-artists/Jan 19th 2007 12:38PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/01/19/universal-and-sony-prohibit-zune-sharing-for-certain-artists/http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/19/universal-and-sony-prohibit-zune-sharing-for-certain-artists/Jan 19th 2007 1:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/01/19/universal-and-sony-prohibit-zune-sharing-for-certain-artists/http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/19/universal-and-sony-prohibit-zune-sharing-for-certain-artists/Jan 19th 2007 7:51PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/01/19/universal-and-sony-prohibit-zune-sharing-for-certain-artists/http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/19/universal-and-sony-prohibit-zune-sharing-for-certain-artists/
Maybe they find each other through Zuneharmony.com]]>Feb 2nd 2007 6:46PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/01/19/universal-and-sony-prohibit-zune-sharing-for-certain-artists/http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/19/universal-and-sony-prohibit-zune-sharing-for-certain-artists/Jan 19th 2007 11:48AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/01/19/universal-and-sony-prohibit-zune-sharing-for-certain-artists/http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/19/universal-and-sony-prohibit-zune-sharing-for-certain-artists/Jan 19th 2007 11:51AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/01/19/universal-and-sony-prohibit-zune-sharing-for-certain-artists/http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/19/universal-and-sony-prohibit-zune-sharing-for-certain-artists/Jan 19th 2007 11:53AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/01/19/universal-and-sony-prohibit-zune-sharing-for-certain-artists/http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/19/universal-and-sony-prohibit-zune-sharing-for-certain-artists/
A guy walking down the street with his lonely zune when out of nowhere, "could it be??? another zune??"
He walks up to a beautiful girl rocking her poop brown zune.
"Care to share?"
"Why not?" she says then bites her lips.
They wait 5 minutes for the songs to fly through the air, but alas... its a no go.
"Well it looks like it wasnt meant to be" she says and walks away.
Then the poor little zune boy walks away, and hopes that somewhere out there is another girl, with another poop brown zune, who has artists to share that are not blocked.]]>Jan 19th 2007 11:53AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/01/19/universal-and-sony-prohibit-zune-sharing-for-certain-artists/http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/19/universal-and-sony-prohibit-zune-sharing-for-certain-artists/
The issue here is Microsoft isn't telling their customers. There is no indicator at the store. There is no indicator once it is bought and on your PC/device. You only now when it fails.

We already knew that certain artists and studios want to control their content as much as possible. But it is Microsoft that is advertising this feature and proclaiming it the reason to buy their device.

(Also, it's Microsoft's weak negotiating position and willingness to cave to get any access at all which allows this.)

But the primary problem is Microsoft's. They advertise a capability that only works 60% of the time.

Although they do warn about this in fine print (it's hilarious that the Zune lovers are only catching on two months later), I think it is a serious issue that they aren't telling users which songs are and are NOT sharable.]]>Jan 19th 2007 12:15PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/01/19/universal-and-sony-prohibit-zune-sharing-for-certain-artists/http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/19/universal-and-sony-prohibit-zune-sharing-for-certain-artists/Sure - prevent users from hearing your music unless they buy it first! Give them only one choice to learn about an artist - buy the album. That's *sure* to sell more albums, right?]]>Jan 19th 2007 11:57AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/01/19/universal-and-sony-prohibit-zune-sharing-for-certain-artists/http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/19/universal-and-sony-prohibit-zune-sharing-for-certain-artists/Jan 20th 2007 12:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/01/19/universal-and-sony-prohibit-zune-sharing-for-certain-artists/http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/19/universal-and-sony-prohibit-zune-sharing-for-certain-artists/
Someone hack the bloody thing already.

Dear music industry: Your wallet is making your collective ass look fat again.]]>Jan 19th 2007 1:04PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/01/19/universal-and-sony-prohibit-zune-sharing-for-certain-artists/http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/19/universal-and-sony-prohibit-zune-sharing-for-certain-artists/Jan 19th 2007 11:59AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/01/19/universal-and-sony-prohibit-zune-sharing-for-certain-artists/http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/19/universal-and-sony-prohibit-zune-sharing-for-certain-artists/Jan 19th 2007 12:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/01/19/universal-and-sony-prohibit-zune-sharing-for-certain-artists/http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/19/universal-and-sony-prohibit-zune-sharing-for-certain-artists/Jan 19th 2007 12:58PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/01/19/universal-and-sony-prohibit-zune-sharing-for-certain-artists/http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/19/universal-and-sony-prohibit-zune-sharing-for-certain-artists/
@gb,

It is true, burning files to a CD and re-ripping them will remove the protection content, but it comes at a heavy quality cost. Burning a protected file stretches the file size out from a heavily compressed mp3 or similar format to a decompressed WAV or AAC format readable by cd players. To take that file and re-rip it means you are taking an already truncated file and shaving it down even more to compress the file size. Doing stuff like that, while a valid solution to your problem, will ultimately sound like it came from a low-powered FM station, meaning you can hear it, but it won't really be worth listening to after a while.]]>Jan 19th 2007 2:32PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/01/19/universal-and-sony-prohibit-zune-sharing-for-certain-artists/http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/19/universal-and-sony-prohibit-zune-sharing-for-certain-artists/Jan 19th 2007 12:19PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/01/19/universal-and-sony-prohibit-zune-sharing-for-certain-artists/http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/19/universal-and-sony-prohibit-zune-sharing-for-certain-artists/Jan 19th 2007 11:45PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/01/19/universal-and-sony-prohibit-zune-sharing-for-certain-artists/http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/19/universal-and-sony-prohibit-zune-sharing-for-certain-artists/http://www.zune.net/en-us/support/howto/play/mediausagerights.htm

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When the transfer completed, a message appeared on my player: 'Can't send some songs because of rights restrictions. 29 of 50 songs sent to Carrie's Zune'."

Wow. The labels are insane.

One more reason to get a Sansa Connect.]]>Jan 19th 2007 1:04PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/01/19/universal-and-sony-prohibit-zune-sharing-for-certain-artists/http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/19/universal-and-sony-prohibit-zune-sharing-for-certain-artists/Jan 19th 2007 1:15PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/01/19/universal-and-sony-prohibit-zune-sharing-for-certain-artists/http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/19/universal-and-sony-prohibit-zune-sharing-for-certain-artists/
1. suing Universal for royalties they paid under contract (breach and fraud).

2. leaking the zune firmware for the free hacking (If you're being sold out, return the favor)]]>Jan 19th 2007 12:32PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/01/19/universal-and-sony-prohibit-zune-sharing-for-certain-artists/http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/19/universal-and-sony-prohibit-zune-sharing-for-certain-artists/
Besides this Zune incident, Apple and numerous MP3 manufacturers long have the technology to purchase songs wirelessly via wifi. They can't enable such technology for consumers solely due to RIAA's demand of different contracts seeking more money + more restrictions. If RIAA can't represent the definition of GREED, I don't know what can.]]>Jan 19th 2007 12:33PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/01/19/universal-and-sony-prohibit-zune-sharing-for-certain-artists/http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/19/universal-and-sony-prohibit-zune-sharing-for-certain-artists/
Sounds like a juicy lawsuit is in the works.]]>Jan 19th 2007 12:34PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/01/19/universal-and-sony-prohibit-zune-sharing-for-certain-artists/http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/19/universal-and-sony-prohibit-zune-sharing-for-certain-artists/Jan 19th 2007 2:26PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/01/19/universal-and-sony-prohibit-zune-sharing-for-certain-artists/http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/19/universal-and-sony-prohibit-zune-sharing-for-certain-artists/Jan 19th 2007 1:32PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/01/19/universal-and-sony-prohibit-zune-sharing-for-certain-artists/http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/19/universal-and-sony-prohibit-zune-sharing-for-certain-artists/
I was an early adopter of downloaded music (iTunes) and then subscription music (Yahoo, Napster). Given the increasing fracturing and proliferation of DRM schemes and restrictions, what's in it for me? I'm beginning to think P2P is actually a consumer rights movement, given the lack of meaningful customer participation in the schemes of the music companies.

They continue to deny the reality of streaming/downloadable music, slashed production costs and the death of the "album" as the primary product. Why should anybody support these over-reaching, greedy dinosaurs?]]>Jan 19th 2007 12:42PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/01/19/universal-and-sony-prohibit-zune-sharing-for-certain-artists/http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/19/universal-and-sony-prohibit-zune-sharing-for-certain-artists/Jan 19th 2007 12:45PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/01/19/universal-and-sony-prohibit-zune-sharing-for-certain-artists/http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/19/universal-and-sony-prohibit-zune-sharing-for-certain-artists/
do these people not realize that people listen to the radio, walk through malls, Listen to cd's in their friends cars?

are they going to make us get eardrum implants that only allows the purchaser of the song to hear it? Do they want anyone to know that their songs exist?]]>Jan 19th 2007 12:48PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/01/19/universal-and-sony-prohibit-zune-sharing-for-certain-artists/http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/19/universal-and-sony-prohibit-zune-sharing-for-certain-artists/
Replace "song" with "movie" or "video" and you get the idea with the MPAA.
]]>Jan 19th 2007 1:20PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/01/19/universal-and-sony-prohibit-zune-sharing-for-certain-artists/http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/19/universal-and-sony-prohibit-zune-sharing-for-certain-artists/
I never cease to be amazed at how people can take stories about how the recording industry squeezes the consumer and spin it into something they're happy about. As long as consumers snipe at each other and cheer when one company or another is screwed by the recording industry it guarantees that DRM is here to stay. As long as you happily give your money to a music DL service that has the name you're enamored with you give the recording industry all of the ammunition they need to say "The public loves DRM just the way it is." and frankly they're right.]]>Jan 19th 2007 12:53PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/01/19/universal-and-sony-prohibit-zune-sharing-for-certain-artists/http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/19/universal-and-sony-prohibit-zune-sharing-for-certain-artists/
By joining the Zune community, you can:

* Share your life in music and pictures. Got a song your friends just have to hear? Beam them a sample track, Zune to Zune.[1]

[1] The Zune to Zune sharing feature may not be available for all audio files on your device, and works only between Zune devices within wireless range of each other. This feature allows recipients to play full-length sample tracks up to 3 times in 3 days. Recipients cannot re-send music that they have received via the sharing feature.


I STILL think MS has been less than truthful about the social aspect but they DO cover their ass with the above no?

A lot of companies stretch the truth of the capabilities of their products right?

No..I don't have a Zune or iPod.]]>Jan 19th 2007 12:54PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/01/19/universal-and-sony-prohibit-zune-sharing-for-certain-artists/http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/19/universal-and-sony-prohibit-zune-sharing-for-certain-artists/>why are record companies so afraid that someone will hear a >>song without paying 3 times?

Because they know in those little black holes that they have for hearts that if someone actually listened to any of their artist's songs 3 times they are not worth buying.]]>Jan 19th 2007 1:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/01/19/universal-and-sony-prohibit-zune-sharing-for-certain-artists/http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/19/universal-and-sony-prohibit-zune-sharing-for-certain-artists/Jan 19th 2007 4:36PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/01/19/universal-and-sony-prohibit-zune-sharing-for-certain-artists/http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/19/universal-and-sony-prohibit-zune-sharing-for-certain-artists/
1 - how could MS have not checked with Sony (such a big player in the music business!) first ... that's like so arrogant.

2 - Record companies own the copyright on their artists music, who are we to tell them what to do with their property?

3 - Why should Sony peomote Microsoft hardware? Microsoft ruthlessly screw their competition.

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Well, when we see that we can just take the music for free, and the labels try to curtail that, NOW is when people get all consumer-rights and self-righteous about what the labels are doing. In other words, "why won't you let me steal what you just spent millions to create/distribute/market"? And the labels are the ones out of touch with reality? Ok.

It sucks paying $20 for a crappy CD from some cookie-cutter recording act. But it sucks even worse to steal your favorite artist's music online, then wrap yourself in some fake consumer rights BS. You aren't hurting the Machine, you're hurting the artist. The fewer records the good artists sell, the fewer that will even get the chance to shine. Basic math.

And please spare us that transparent crap about how folks still pony up cold cash for "good music". Once you're used to getting it for free, that's what you're gonna do. So artists go from being raped by the labels to being raped by their so-called fans. I guess that's progress, huh?]]>May 21st 2008 5:43PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/01/19/universal-and-sony-prohibit-zune-sharing-for-certain-artists/http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/19/universal-and-sony-prohibit-zune-sharing-for-certain-artists/STOP BUYING DRM!! say FU to the record companys!]]>Jan 19th 2007 1:29PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/01/19/universal-and-sony-prohibit-zune-sharing-for-certain-artists/http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/19/universal-and-sony-prohibit-zune-sharing-for-certain-artists/
Looks like musicgremlin had it right.]]>Jan 19th 2007 1:39PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/01/19/universal-and-sony-prohibit-zune-sharing-for-certain-artists/http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/19/universal-and-sony-prohibit-zune-sharing-for-certain-artists/Jan 19th 2007 8:18PM