http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/21/can-europe-start-dreaming-about-a-brown-zune-christmas/ Engadget Comments for Can Europe start dreaming about a brown (Zune) Christmas? http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/21/can-europe-start-dreaming-about-a-brown-zune-christmas/http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/21/can-europe-start-dreaming-about-a-brown-zune-christmas/Jan 21st 2007 11:55AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/01/21/can-europe-start-dreaming-about-a-brown-zune-christmas/http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/21/can-europe-start-dreaming-about-a-brown-zune-christmas/Jan 21st 2007 5:44PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/01/21/can-europe-start-dreaming-about-a-brown-zune-christmas/http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/21/can-europe-start-dreaming-about-a-brown-zune-christmas/Jan 21st 2007 7:37PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/01/21/can-europe-start-dreaming-about-a-brown-zune-christmas/http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/21/can-europe-start-dreaming-about-a-brown-zune-christmas/Jan 21st 2007 12:01PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/01/21/can-europe-start-dreaming-about-a-brown-zune-christmas/http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/21/can-europe-start-dreaming-about-a-brown-zune-christmas/Jan 21st 2007 12:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/01/21/can-europe-start-dreaming-about-a-brown-zune-christmas/http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/21/can-europe-start-dreaming-about-a-brown-zune-christmas/
Anyway, zune = meh, IMO.]]>Jan 21st 2007 2:07PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/01/21/can-europe-start-dreaming-about-a-brown-zune-christmas/http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/21/can-europe-start-dreaming-about-a-brown-zune-christmas/Jan 21st 2007 12:04PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/01/21/can-europe-start-dreaming-about-a-brown-zune-christmas/http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/21/can-europe-start-dreaming-about-a-brown-zune-christmas/Jan 21st 2007 12:04PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/01/21/can-europe-start-dreaming-about-a-brown-zune-christmas/http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/21/can-europe-start-dreaming-about-a-brown-zune-christmas/Jan 21st 2007 12:07PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/01/21/can-europe-start-dreaming-about-a-brown-zune-christmas/http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/21/can-europe-start-dreaming-about-a-brown-zune-christmas/
You should get out more. Whether you, or your acquaintances, like it or not the UK is part of Europe both geographically and politically. The latter after a referendum.]]>Jan 21st 2007 12:20PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/01/21/can-europe-start-dreaming-about-a-brown-zune-christmas/http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/21/can-europe-start-dreaming-about-a-brown-zune-christmas/Jan 21st 2007 1:37PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/01/21/can-europe-start-dreaming-about-a-brown-zune-christmas/http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/21/can-europe-start-dreaming-about-a-brown-zune-christmas/]]>Jan 21st 2007 12:12PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/01/21/can-europe-start-dreaming-about-a-brown-zune-christmas/http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/21/can-europe-start-dreaming-about-a-brown-zune-christmas/Jan 21st 2007 2:12PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/01/21/can-europe-start-dreaming-about-a-brown-zune-christmas/http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/21/can-europe-start-dreaming-about-a-brown-zune-christmas/
Thats awesome, I love how the meaning in phrases and the like get lost and contorted in the translation. ]]>Jan 21st 2007 1:05PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/01/21/can-europe-start-dreaming-about-a-brown-zune-christmas/http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/21/can-europe-start-dreaming-about-a-brown-zune-christmas/
In fact, the same goes for Germany - even more I think than in UK, since lots of Germans like to live more off social system rather than to search for work.]]>Jan 21st 2007 4:48PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/01/21/can-europe-start-dreaming-about-a-brown-zune-christmas/http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/21/can-europe-start-dreaming-about-a-brown-zune-christmas/Jan 21st 2007 6:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/01/21/can-europe-start-dreaming-about-a-brown-zune-christmas/http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/21/can-europe-start-dreaming-about-a-brown-zune-christmas/Jan 21st 2007 3:06PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/01/21/can-europe-start-dreaming-about-a-brown-zune-christmas/http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/21/can-europe-start-dreaming-about-a-brown-zune-christmas/
Anyway, as much as I don't really like microsoft basically making all kinds of electronics, its money for them. And, just as you compared it to the xbox, they'll probably become a major competitor of the iPod in a few years time.

A company needs to step up and compete with microsoft... by joining in to all sorts of electronics xD (google? lol)]]>Jan 21st 2007 4:50PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/01/21/can-europe-start-dreaming-about-a-brown-zune-christmas/http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/21/can-europe-start-dreaming-about-a-brown-zune-christmas/Jan 21st 2007 7:44PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/01/21/can-europe-start-dreaming-about-a-brown-zune-christmas/http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/21/can-europe-start-dreaming-about-a-brown-zune-christmas/Jan 21st 2007 12:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/01/21/can-europe-start-dreaming-about-a-brown-zune-christmas/http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/21/can-europe-start-dreaming-about-a-brown-zune-christmas/
I hate socialism/socialist countries.

Long live Lesse Fair!

Long live the Zune! ;)




]]>Jan 21st 2007 12:29PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/01/21/can-europe-start-dreaming-about-a-brown-zune-christmas/http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/21/can-europe-start-dreaming-about-a-brown-zune-christmas/It doesn't exactly help your cause that you miss-spelt 'Laissez Faire'...

And isn't 'hate' a strong word to describe your feelings towards socialism? That's a fairly narrow-minded viewpoint considering that this, like many other ideologies, has made many positive (as well as negative) contributions to civilisation... How about free universal education? Or the police? Or free healthcare (or the less inspiring medicare for americans...)? These things could be provided by the free market but there would be many negative side-effects:
the rich employing security guards to protect rich neighbourhoods, while poor neighbourhoods suffer from crime of Moghadishu-like proportions; the wealthy getting premium healthcare whilst the poor waste away... the rich maintaining a monopoly on the good jobs because the poor can't afford decent education...

So before you declare yourself in favour of 'lesse faire'... Consider the broader implications of socialism beyond the superficial Marxist slogans.

To get back on topic though, I think the Zune looks pretty nice. I was very tempted to buy one (in brown, no less). I consider this a worthy iPod adversary, especially once we reach the second generation (a la xbox 360). You may believe that it has crippled functionality, but that is dwarfed by the iPod's crippleware.]]>Jan 21st 2007 12:47PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/01/21/can-europe-start-dreaming-about-a-brown-zune-christmas/http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/21/can-europe-start-dreaming-about-a-brown-zune-christmas/
Microsoft need to release the Zune long before the iPhone. It's still a distant dream in the EU. Microsoft needs to get them first.]]>Jan 21st 2007 12:34PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/01/21/can-europe-start-dreaming-about-a-brown-zune-christmas/http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/21/can-europe-start-dreaming-about-a-brown-zune-christmas/
Long live Lesse Fair!"

You mean Laissez-Faire? Or is "Lesse Fair" the anti-French equivalent to Freedom Fries?

And you know, I'm surprised the Zune is being received so negatively. It just seemed to me like there was a lot more hype before the launch than the was during and after it. ::shrug::
]]>Jan 21st 2007 12:43PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/01/21/can-europe-start-dreaming-about-a-brown-zune-christmas/http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/21/can-europe-start-dreaming-about-a-brown-zune-christmas/Jan 21st 2007 12:54PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/01/21/can-europe-start-dreaming-about-a-brown-zune-christmas/http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/21/can-europe-start-dreaming-about-a-brown-zune-christmas/Jan 21st 2007 12:55PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/01/21/can-europe-start-dreaming-about-a-brown-zune-christmas/http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/21/can-europe-start-dreaming-about-a-brown-zune-christmas/the rich employing security guards to protect rich neighbourhoods, while poor neighbourhoods suffer from crime of Moghadishu-like proportions; the wealthy getting premium healthcare whilst the poor waste away... the rich maintaining a monopoly on the good jobs because the poor can't afford decent education... "

Of course, in pure lesse faire, there would not be many, if and, poor. America has a much better economy and is a richer nation than europe, and is far less socialist than the majority of european countries.

Oh,and I live in Europe. And I want the zune! ;) ]]>Jan 21st 2007 1:01PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/01/21/can-europe-start-dreaming-about-a-brown-zune-christmas/http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/21/can-europe-start-dreaming-about-a-brown-zune-christmas/Jan 21st 2007 2:54PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/01/21/can-europe-start-dreaming-about-a-brown-zune-christmas/http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/21/can-europe-start-dreaming-about-a-brown-zune-christmas/Jan 21st 2007 1:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/01/21/can-europe-start-dreaming-about-a-brown-zune-christmas/http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/21/can-europe-start-dreaming-about-a-brown-zune-christmas/
And I hate the Zunes saying "welcome to the Social"...its lame.

However haveing a catch phrase be lame doesn't make me want the product any less, I'll probably pick up a Zune next week.]]>Jan 21st 2007 7:26PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/01/21/can-europe-start-dreaming-about-a-brown-zune-christmas/http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/21/can-europe-start-dreaming-about-a-brown-zune-christmas/Jan 21st 2007 1:14PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/01/21/can-europe-start-dreaming-about-a-brown-zune-christmas/http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/21/can-europe-start-dreaming-about-a-brown-zune-christmas/
Now I'm no expert on the economy or politics, but your statements seem rather contrived, and completely without evidence.
]]>Jan 21st 2007 1:16PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/01/21/can-europe-start-dreaming-about-a-brown-zune-christmas/http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/21/can-europe-start-dreaming-about-a-brown-zune-christmas/Jan 21st 2007 1:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/01/21/can-europe-start-dreaming-about-a-brown-zune-christmas/http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/21/can-europe-start-dreaming-about-a-brown-zune-christmas/Could MS please create v2 before attempting to inflict it upon me, I might actually accept that (given I'm stuck with my iPod for now).]]>Jan 21st 2007 1:23PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/01/21/can-europe-start-dreaming-about-a-brown-zune-christmas/http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/21/can-europe-start-dreaming-about-a-brown-zune-christmas/Jan 21st 2007 2:23PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/01/21/can-europe-start-dreaming-about-a-brown-zune-christmas/http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/21/can-europe-start-dreaming-about-a-brown-zune-christmas/Jan 21st 2007 2:06PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/01/21/can-europe-start-dreaming-about-a-brown-zune-christmas/http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/21/can-europe-start-dreaming-about-a-brown-zune-christmas/Jan 21st 2007 3:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/01/21/can-europe-start-dreaming-about-a-brown-zune-christmas/http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/21/can-europe-start-dreaming-about-a-brown-zune-christmas/Jan 21st 2007 6:24PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/01/21/can-europe-start-dreaming-about-a-brown-zune-christmas/http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/21/can-europe-start-dreaming-about-a-brown-zune-christmas/
The US government used to be in the hands of socialist/keynsian politics. The economy was stagnant. Then Reagon came, and instituted supply side economics, which is very close to "lesse fair". The economy drastically improved. Europe is still very socialist, and I have seen the terrible economic affects of this (as I said, I live in europe.) Socialism does not help the poor, it merely hurts the rich.

As for europe being comprised of several nations, that may be true politically, but not so much economically. Why else would they have one currency?]]>Jan 21st 2007 3:27PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/01/21/can-europe-start-dreaming-about-a-brown-zune-christmas/http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/21/can-europe-start-dreaming-about-a-brown-zune-christmas/
Do you have a more compelling example?
]]>Jan 22nd 2007 2:43AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/01/21/can-europe-start-dreaming-about-a-brown-zune-christmas/http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/21/can-europe-start-dreaming-about-a-brown-zune-christmas/
I buy a device to perform a function (like, say, PLAY MUSIC), not for social style points (like, say, the whole idea behind anything "Apple"). Besides, I probably don't want to be mixed in with the people that base their life around something as insignificant as an MP3 player. ]]>Jan 21st 2007 3:33PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/01/21/can-europe-start-dreaming-about-a-brown-zune-christmas/http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/21/can-europe-start-dreaming-about-a-brown-zune-christmas/Jan 21st 2007 3:43PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/01/21/can-europe-start-dreaming-about-a-brown-zune-christmas/http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/21/can-europe-start-dreaming-about-a-brown-zune-christmas/
Also, iPod fans are in the tens of millions, and I don't believe we all base our lives around iPods. We enjoy the superb user experience provided by Apple, just as you enjoy your Zune experience provided by Microsoft. Don't you think it's A bit rude to generalize all of us in one broad stroke?]]>Jan 21st 2007 5:00PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/01/21/can-europe-start-dreaming-about-a-brown-zune-christmas/http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/21/can-europe-start-dreaming-about-a-brown-zune-christmas/
Um.. O'Reilly Factor viewer?

Ouch..

Dude. As a Canadian, I gotta say, the Government can be useful in taking care of things most sel-interested individuals don't want to think about... they're called EXTERNALITIES.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Externality

You're well on your way...]]>Jan 21st 2007 7:23PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/01/21/can-europe-start-dreaming-about-a-brown-zune-christmas/http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/21/can-europe-start-dreaming-about-a-brown-zune-christmas/YUK!!!! SICK!!]]>Jan 21st 2007 7:44PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/01/21/can-europe-start-dreaming-about-a-brown-zune-christmas/http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/21/can-europe-start-dreaming-about-a-brown-zune-christmas/Jan 21st 2007 8:14PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/01/21/can-europe-start-dreaming-about-a-brown-zune-christmas/http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/21/can-europe-start-dreaming-about-a-brown-zune-christmas/Jan 22nd 2007 2:28AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/01/21/can-europe-start-dreaming-about-a-brown-zune-christmas/http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/21/can-europe-start-dreaming-about-a-brown-zune-christmas/Jan 23rd 2007 11:35AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/01/21/can-europe-start-dreaming-about-a-brown-zune-christmas/http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/21/can-europe-start-dreaming-about-a-brown-zune-christmas/
The only time in the UK you ever here "Welcome to the social" is when you are pleading to a guy behind a protective screen not to stop your disabled, unemployment or incapacity benefit.

I am not really that exited about the Zune. I don't ask much in an "MP3 player". All I ask it it plays MP3s, it is easy to use, has as much storage as possible and a bit of style.

I think it's sad that people argue over whose DRM is "better" or "fairer". DRM is the biggest heap of crap in the tech world today. It makes me sick how much companies profit from blind comsumers who purchase this crap. When I buy a CD I can play it in my car, CD player, xbox, playstation, computer and anything else that can play audio CDs. When I rip it to my PC and transfer it to my MP3 player the law of the land frowns apon me and record companies go nuts. All it boils down to is greed. Yeh I agree the companies need to protect thier artists and profits but DRM is the wrong way to do it. Shutting down file sharing programs is and suing the people that make these programs instead of 12 year old kids is the way to discourage these programs and sites.

That is why I still buy the "dinosaur" CDs for more common artists and MP3s from independent artists and small lables. Yeh I know people are going to pick apart what I just said and argue against me but that is what a "democracy" and freedom of speech is all about.]]>Jan 24th 2007 8:55PM