http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/01/nfl-shuts-down-churchs-super-bowl-bash-ratings-to-blame/ Engadget Comments for NFL shuts down church's Super Bowl Bash, ratings to blame http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/01/nfl-shuts-down-churchs-super-bowl-bash-ratings-to-blame/http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/01/nfl-shuts-down-churchs-super-bowl-bash-ratings-to-blame/Feb 1st 2007 5:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/02/01/nfl-shuts-down-churchs-super-bowl-bash-ratings-to-blame/http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/01/nfl-shuts-down-churchs-super-bowl-bash-ratings-to-blame/Feb 1st 2007 5:39PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/02/01/nfl-shuts-down-churchs-super-bowl-bash-ratings-to-blame/http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/01/nfl-shuts-down-churchs-super-bowl-bash-ratings-to-blame/Feb 1st 2007 5:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/02/01/nfl-shuts-down-churchs-super-bowl-bash-ratings-to-blame/http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/01/nfl-shuts-down-churchs-super-bowl-bash-ratings-to-blame/Feb 4th 2007 9:03AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/02/01/nfl-shuts-down-churchs-super-bowl-bash-ratings-to-blame/http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/01/nfl-shuts-down-churchs-super-bowl-bash-ratings-to-blame/Feb 1st 2007 5:14PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/02/01/nfl-shuts-down-churchs-super-bowl-bash-ratings-to-blame/http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/01/nfl-shuts-down-churchs-super-bowl-bash-ratings-to-blame/Feb 1st 2007 5:23PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/02/01/nfl-shuts-down-churchs-super-bowl-bash-ratings-to-blame/http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/01/nfl-shuts-down-churchs-super-bowl-bash-ratings-to-blame/

the UK loves football indeed. But their football is our soccer, and our football is their rugby but with a lot less padding.]]>Feb 1st 2007 5:33PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/02/01/nfl-shuts-down-churchs-super-bowl-bash-ratings-to-blame/http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/01/nfl-shuts-down-churchs-super-bowl-bash-ratings-to-blame/Feb 2nd 2007 3:32PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/02/01/nfl-shuts-down-churchs-super-bowl-bash-ratings-to-blame/http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/01/nfl-shuts-down-churchs-super-bowl-bash-ratings-to-blame/Feb 1st 2007 5:57PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/02/01/nfl-shuts-down-churchs-super-bowl-bash-ratings-to-blame/http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/01/nfl-shuts-down-churchs-super-bowl-bash-ratings-to-blame/

By the way... if you have a 56+ inch screen and you host a Super Bowl "Gathering" or Super Bowl "Get-Together" are you okay? And what if you have two screens running, but only one of them is showing the game at a time? Is that okay? And what if... oh, I give up.]]>Feb 1st 2007 5:28PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/02/01/nfl-shuts-down-churchs-super-bowl-bash-ratings-to-blame/http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/01/nfl-shuts-down-churchs-super-bowl-bash-ratings-to-blame/Feb 2nd 2007 9:22AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/02/01/nfl-shuts-down-churchs-super-bowl-bash-ratings-to-blame/http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/01/nfl-shuts-down-churchs-super-bowl-bash-ratings-to-blame/But the NFL objected to the church's plans to use a projector to show the game, saying the law limits it to one TV no bigger than 55 inches.
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The NFL can sue and get actual damages if they really want to spend ~100k in lawyers fees to rake in 1 dollar (nominal damages).

There's no way the church planned to MAKE money, just to cover the rental of the projector and food. So, net it out and give the NFL their due..... 1 dollar of nominal damages.

I'd flaunt them.

I'm watching at my neighbors house on a 60" rptv. COME AND GET ME!]]>Feb 1st 2007 5:35PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/02/01/nfl-shuts-down-churchs-super-bowl-bash-ratings-to-blame/http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/01/nfl-shuts-down-churchs-super-bowl-bash-ratings-to-blame/Feb 2nd 2007 3:04AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/02/01/nfl-shuts-down-churchs-super-bowl-bash-ratings-to-blame/http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/01/nfl-shuts-down-churchs-super-bowl-bash-ratings-to-blame/Feb 1st 2007 9:19PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/02/01/nfl-shuts-down-churchs-super-bowl-bash-ratings-to-blame/http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/01/nfl-shuts-down-churchs-super-bowl-bash-ratings-to-blame/Feb 2nd 2007 9:31AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/02/01/nfl-shuts-down-churchs-super-bowl-bash-ratings-to-blame/http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/01/nfl-shuts-down-churchs-super-bowl-bash-ratings-to-blame/Feb 1st 2007 5:37PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/02/01/nfl-shuts-down-churchs-super-bowl-bash-ratings-to-blame/http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/01/nfl-shuts-down-churchs-super-bowl-bash-ratings-to-blame/Feb 1st 2007 5:38PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/02/01/nfl-shuts-down-churchs-super-bowl-bash-ratings-to-blame/http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/01/nfl-shuts-down-churchs-super-bowl-bash-ratings-to-blame/
"The more I think about it, ol' Billy was right. Let's kill all the lawyers, kill em tonight." - Don Henley

All I can say to the lawyer and PR guy quoted in the original article is PICK YOUR BATTLES. Duh.

This is yet another incident of the "content providers" trying to tell us where, when , how, and with whom we can consume. Well, as a consumer, I say this - KISS. MY. ASS.]]>Feb 2nd 2007 9:09AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/02/01/nfl-shuts-down-churchs-super-bowl-bash-ratings-to-blame/http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/01/nfl-shuts-down-churchs-super-bowl-bash-ratings-to-blame/Feb 1st 2007 5:50PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/02/01/nfl-shuts-down-churchs-super-bowl-bash-ratings-to-blame/http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/01/nfl-shuts-down-churchs-super-bowl-bash-ratings-to-blame/Go Colts

and to the NFL: You can suck my balls and my 65 in. HDTV's balls as well. ]]>Feb 1st 2007 5:50PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/02/01/nfl-shuts-down-churchs-super-bowl-bash-ratings-to-blame/http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/01/nfl-shuts-down-churchs-super-bowl-bash-ratings-to-blame/Feb 2nd 2007 8:59AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/02/01/nfl-shuts-down-churchs-super-bowl-bash-ratings-to-blame/http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/01/nfl-shuts-down-churchs-super-bowl-bash-ratings-to-blame/
Our church is doing this as well, as did the last couple of churches I attended...

We never heard anything from the NFL telling us to knock it off despite showing the game on dual projection screens permanently installed in the sanctuary for words and videos during Sunday services.

However, we didn't charge anything as part of the festivities. It was open to pretty much everyone.

A single TV 55" limit is ridiculous. I've never heard of anything like that.

I would also think that there would be some sort of exception for churches and other organizations doing something like this.

Thank you NFL, MPAA, RIAA and everyone else out to "protect the rights and intellectual property" of those poor football players, actors and musicians.]]>Feb 1st 2007 6:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/02/01/nfl-shuts-down-churchs-super-bowl-bash-ratings-to-blame/http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/01/nfl-shuts-down-churchs-super-bowl-bash-ratings-to-blame/Feb 2nd 2007 11:06AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/02/01/nfl-shuts-down-churchs-super-bowl-bash-ratings-to-blame/http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/01/nfl-shuts-down-churchs-super-bowl-bash-ratings-to-blame/
Here's the deal: normal broadcasts of any cable or satellite or OTA company are licensed for personal use only. You can watch it on a 200" screen, for all anyone cares. You can invite your closest 50 friends over, for all anyone cares.

However, if you want to go commercial, you need a commercial license. Ask your local bar how much they pay for Sunday Ticket. It's significantly more than you pay for your own subscription. This is the nature of a commercial license.

Now, I don't know the details of the church issue, but odds are they somehow got caught up in the NFL's protection of its commercial licensees. Right, wrong, I don't know.

However, I do know that it's pretty idiotic to toss of snide remarks about bars being exempt from this issue when that's simply not true, and 30 seconds on google would have made for a much more accurate and topical post.]]>Feb 1st 2007 6:08PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/02/01/nfl-shuts-down-churchs-super-bowl-bash-ratings-to-blame/http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/01/nfl-shuts-down-churchs-super-bowl-bash-ratings-to-blame/Feb 1st 2007 6:09PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/02/01/nfl-shuts-down-churchs-super-bowl-bash-ratings-to-blame/http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/01/nfl-shuts-down-churchs-super-bowl-bash-ratings-to-blame/
http://www.roadsideamerica.com/attract/OHMONjesus.html

BEAT THAT!]]>Feb 1st 2007 8:27PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/02/01/nfl-shuts-down-churchs-super-bowl-bash-ratings-to-blame/http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/01/nfl-shuts-down-churchs-super-bowl-bash-ratings-to-blame/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndlsVnV5zVA]]>Feb 1st 2007 10:53PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/02/01/nfl-shuts-down-churchs-super-bowl-bash-ratings-to-blame/http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/01/nfl-shuts-down-churchs-super-bowl-bash-ratings-to-blame/Feb 5th 2007 12:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/02/01/nfl-shuts-down-churchs-super-bowl-bash-ratings-to-blame/http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/01/nfl-shuts-down-churchs-super-bowl-bash-ratings-to-blame/
I was just saying that all three organizations employ similar tactics and show an enormous amount of greed in the name of protecting the artist (or players in this case).

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I really wish that, when people posted articles like this, they'd reas the article before making holier-than-thou statements.

From the article:

"NFL spokesman Greg Aiello said the league's long-standing policy is to ban "mass out-of-home viewing" of the Super Bowl. An exception is made for sports bars and other businesses that show televised sports as a part of their everyday operations."

Now, the reporter may be paraphrasing there, but it's from the piece, not commenters here. ]]>Feb 2nd 2007 1:17AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/02/01/nfl-shuts-down-churchs-super-bowl-bash-ratings-to-blame/http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/01/nfl-shuts-down-churchs-super-bowl-bash-ratings-to-blame/I mean really. I wish fate was more selective with its targeting systems.
Normally I wouldn't say this but I wouldn't shed a single tear if every exec from the above groups up and died tomorrow. Hell I think a national holiday would have to be created to give thanks.
Greedy bastards. As if they aren’t making a complete assload from the Super [Post edited by the NFL. Deposit $10 to complete this sentence.]
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http://www.churchmarketingsucks.com/graphics/2005_01_13giantjesus.jpg]]>Feb 2nd 2007 9:09AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/02/01/nfl-shuts-down-churchs-super-bowl-bash-ratings-to-blame/http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/01/nfl-shuts-down-churchs-super-bowl-bash-ratings-to-blame/Feb 1st 2007 8:41PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/02/01/nfl-shuts-down-churchs-super-bowl-bash-ratings-to-blame/http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/01/nfl-shuts-down-churchs-super-bowl-bash-ratings-to-blame/Feb 1st 2007 11:19PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/02/01/nfl-shuts-down-churchs-super-bowl-bash-ratings-to-blame/http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/01/nfl-shuts-down-churchs-super-bowl-bash-ratings-to-blame/Feb 2nd 2007 3:43PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/02/01/nfl-shuts-down-churchs-super-bowl-bash-ratings-to-blame/http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/01/nfl-shuts-down-churchs-super-bowl-bash-ratings-to-blame/
My Dad has an ad agency and one of his employees ran a small ad in a local paper where a local real estate company was offering Tampa Bay Bucs tickets as a prize in a contest.

The NFL contacted him and said you owe us $80,000 for promoting your client. His lawyer said, "It's the NFL. You pay them and walk away with a lesson learned."]]>Feb 1st 2007 9:54PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/02/01/nfl-shuts-down-churchs-super-bowl-bash-ratings-to-blame/http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/01/nfl-shuts-down-churchs-super-bowl-bash-ratings-to-blame/
I agree with the poster who said that the RIAA, MPAA, and other acronym autocrats sound more like the KGB everyday...]]>Feb 1st 2007 7:42PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/02/01/nfl-shuts-down-churchs-super-bowl-bash-ratings-to-blame/http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/01/nfl-shuts-down-churchs-super-bowl-bash-ratings-to-blame/Feb 1st 2007 8:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/02/01/nfl-shuts-down-churchs-super-bowl-bash-ratings-to-blame/http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/01/nfl-shuts-down-churchs-super-bowl-bash-ratings-to-blame/
Inappropriate for children? You mean like two teams of angry, steroid enhanced men beating the living crap out of each other for a ball and a 7 figure salary? That kind of inappropriate for children?]]>Feb 1st 2007 10:38PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/02/01/nfl-shuts-down-churchs-super-bowl-bash-ratings-to-blame/http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/01/nfl-shuts-down-churchs-super-bowl-bash-ratings-to-blame/Feb 1st 2007 11:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/02/01/nfl-shuts-down-churchs-super-bowl-bash-ratings-to-blame/http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/01/nfl-shuts-down-churchs-super-bowl-bash-ratings-to-blame/
why is a church exempt from a commercial license. i've seen so many preachers exempt from taxes milking innocent god-fearing people, and not paying a penny in taxes.

now a church wants to broadcast the super bowl to their congregation and charge a fee? why should the NFL allow this? why should the church be exempt from a commercial license?

the difference between this and you having a party in your home is you're not charging people to come into your home.

OM]]>Feb 2nd 2007 8:48AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/02/01/nfl-shuts-down-churchs-super-bowl-bash-ratings-to-blame/http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/01/nfl-shuts-down-churchs-super-bowl-bash-ratings-to-blame/Feb 2nd 2007 10:16AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/02/01/nfl-shuts-down-churchs-super-bowl-bash-ratings-to-blame/http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/01/nfl-shuts-down-churchs-super-bowl-bash-ratings-to-blame/
This proves they have grown too big for their own good - time for a serious boycott of NFL games and merchandise - see how they like that.]]>Feb 3rd 2007 9:47AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/02/01/nfl-shuts-down-churchs-super-bowl-bash-ratings-to-blame/http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/01/nfl-shuts-down-churchs-super-bowl-bash-ratings-to-blame/
So set up that home entertainment system - just don't make it TOO good, or you're in violation of copyright law.
]]>Feb 2nd 2007 11:29AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/02/01/nfl-shuts-down-churchs-super-bowl-bash-ratings-to-blame/http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/01/nfl-shuts-down-churchs-super-bowl-bash-ratings-to-blame/
Uhh ... but you feel your time is spent in a valuable manner by being advertised to? I get enough advertising as it is, and I'm sure coworkers will forward me the "best" superbowl commercials.

Commercials people. Commercials. Why?]]>Feb 2nd 2007 5:58PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/02/01/nfl-shuts-down-churchs-super-bowl-bash-ratings-to-blame/http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/01/nfl-shuts-down-churchs-super-bowl-bash-ratings-to-blame/Feb 2nd 2007 3:32PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/02/01/nfl-shuts-down-churchs-super-bowl-bash-ratings-to-blame/http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/01/nfl-shuts-down-churchs-super-bowl-bash-ratings-to-blame/They wondered the same thing considering that they are the "enforcers" of America’s airwaves-- The FCC lady that I talked to had to confer with her supervisor-- She then asked if we were going to charge people to see the game-- No-- She said she had never heard of this law and wondered (along with me) who made the law—The NFL? I don't think that the NFL can make laws so... The FCC asked us if we were going to tape the game and show it later? Again NO—

The "FCC lady" that I talked to also suggested the reporter check his facts-- I would suggest the same thing-- He might want to call the FCC as it would be a GREAT follow up story-- The big ???
Would the NFL have a leg to stand on if they tried to sue a church, group, etc. for showing the Super Bowl on TVs bigger than 55 inches etc.—How would they plan to enforce “their” law otherwise?

I would like to know, does the NFL plan to sue all churches, groups, families, and bars (that don't pay the "fair) that show the game on any TV bigger that 55 inches? Good luck! I am guessing that all the church would have to do is ask why they are discriminating against them-- I also wonder just what the FCC would do—
May I suggest that you also call the FCC for their comments and send an email to "The Indianapolis Star" paper asking them to do a follow up story--

God Bless and thanks for your time—Also to check out just what motivates Tony and Lovie check out:
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